Does eating raw mean no salmon, chicken, or eggs?

[darien]

Can you eat these products while on a raw diet? If not, then why? I thought these are very healthy things to eat. Everyone is saying fish, especially wild salmon is a very healthy thing to eat. What is the benefit of avoiding these things?

[Revvell]

That depends. Since you are on a raw VEGAN board, they're not discussed here. You might want to read the information on the home page about what's allowed and what's not.

[Veganforlife]

I totally agree with Revvell. Please read the homepage.


Having said that, YOU can choose to eat whatever you want and if you decide to choose animal products, then this is definitely not the forum for you.


Thanks.

[SevenKindsOfCookie]

Having said that, YOU can choose to eat whatever you want and if you decide to choose animal products, then this is definitely not the forum for you.

Well, it still is. Just as long as s/he doesn't promote animal products.

[darien]

I don't mean to offend anyone. I am just wondering if it is actually much healthier to avoid the products I listed? Or if everyone here is just against eating animal products for reasons unrelated to health.

[Thick]

Like everyone else said, it is totally your decision, but if you are wondering why meat isnt healthy I'm sure we can stir up a few videos for you. Basically from a totally selfish standpoint, it rots inside your body and then your body (which could be focussed on healing you, getting your d$#k up, thinking brilliant thoughts etc) has to divert energy to rid itself of it.


One way it protects itself from the toxic stuff that might be in a person's intestines is to secrete mucus to insulate it from absorbing the toxins. Over time, the mucus layer can get thicker and makes it more difficult to absorb nutrients which can lead to a lot of problems with malnutrition (even obesity can be malnutrition).

Are you concerned about protein and nutrients?

[coco]

Carnivores have a very short, very acidic digestive tract which can easily extract nutrients from flesh foods and handle uric acid (which is present in all meat). Our digestive tracts, however, are extremely long and require an alkaline based diet to function properly. Humans can not digest flesh foods entirely, neither can the nutrients and proteins be adequately extracted and utilized and, MOST telling of all, we are highly affected by uric acid and our bodies have Zero way of processing or minimizing the damage it causes our systems.

Add to that the fact that flesh foods (particularly fish) are contaminated with parasites (that a true carnivore can excrete in a very short period of time thus avoiding being infected by them) even when cooked and one can see why flesh foods are less than optimal.

Free range eggs from happy chickens are excluded from the info above but would you want to eat them raw? I think that comes with it's own set of health concerns.

[Revvell]

I don't mean to offend anyone. I am just wondering if it is actually much healthier to avoid the products I listed? Or if everyone here is just against eating animal products for reasons unrelated to health.

It's not about being offended. (why do people always say that when we tell them what this forum stands for?) We're just telling you, this is not the place to talk about animal products ~ related to health or not. Read the mission statement and why this forum was created for RAW VEGANS!

You can google why dead animal carcasses aren't good for you or, read The China Study. Pretty much says it all.

[coco]

is that really the stance? people who are interested in eating raw can't ask here for reasons why meat, dairy and eggs aren't healthy? you'd think raw sites would be THE place to ask since so many of us know so much about it (take the books you mentioned, we can recommend stuff like that to read up).
that seems a little funny to me. i mean, i can see why it's preferrable not to have people going on about the supposed benefits of those things and posting links and facts and such since we're all mostly decided about it but... asking questions for clarity? that's what this is all about, isn't it? i'm nearly always happy to share what i've learned about it, provided the asker has a genuine interest and an open mind.

[Veganforlife]

I don't mean to offend anyone. I am just wondering if it is actually much healthier to avoid the products I listed? Or if everyone here is just against eating animal products for reasons unrelated to health.

With due respect for Alissa for allowing this FREE forum for all of us to learn from as to the benefits of eating a Raw-based diet and to NOT discuss in detail why consuming animal products are not healthy or humane I feel we should not go any further with this conversation. This has been discussed in detail for years on this forum and it always turns toward a heated discussion.


There is so much data here, testimonies of healing from going from an unhelthy animal-based diet to the benefits of reaping a plant-based diet. There are also many who are trying to let go of years of SAD eating; consuming animal products and by-products, that it is advised BY Alissa that she wishes in-depth conversation not take place here. This is NOT the forum to learn reasons why consuming said products are unhealthy. Instead, it IS a forum to learn the benefits and healing powers of consuming a plant-based diet.


Please let us respect Alissa and her wishes.


Thanks.

[Aleesha Sattva]

Extended mission statement since some people seem to need to hear more:

This is a raw food board for asking and receiving questions and answers in regards to going and staying raw. This board is for the support of the raw food lifestyle, getting and giving advice and connecting with other people who are STRIVING TO GO AND BE RAW VEGAN according to the principles in Alissa Cohen's book Living on Live Food. It is not for debating whether this diet is good or bad or for posting questions that try to debunk the raw food diet. This does not mean that people cannot ask questions and seek answers but just as a raw fooder or someone believing in the raw food diet would not go to a meat board, a macrobiotic or an Atkins board and start debating those fellow board members beliefs, questioning their approach to their personal diets and interrupting and disrupting there place of support, so is this not appropriate on this board. This board is for people wanting support and connection.

There is enough fear and mistruth and debating about diet going on in all of the places outside of this Internet circle. This is not the place for that. It is a place to come and share your same interest in the vegan raw food diet, get support and feel connected. If you need information that you feel you are not finding here or are looking for opposing views about this diet and want to discuss these view, this is not the place to do that. Search the net and you can find all you want. You are welcome to ask questions and have different opinions but please be mindful and respectful that this is a raw food board whose members are raw, striving to be raw and/or are searching for vegan raw food information.

darien,

it's not that you can't eat these items, you can eat whatever you choose to. this board is set up to support raw vegans. those who choose to not eat meat (and if they do they don't discuss it on this board).

this isn't the rule of the members... it's the rule of the owner of this board Alissa Cohen and so to respect her mission statement - we don't discuss anything regarding meat or animal products.