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*RayRay*
08-07-2009, 08:08 PM
Anyone Purchased the Longevity Now stuff from David Wolfe? I was just wondering if you thought it was worth the $500. I love learning more about what foods do what for your body, but am not sure about spending so much for this....... What do you think? Is it information you can't find elsewhere for....i dunno...less than $500...? or is it truly as priceless as he claims it is...?
thanks
Revvell
08-07-2009, 08:24 PM
When he gets my age, and he looks as good as he does now, I'll purchase stuff from him, about longevity. In the meantime, I'll pass.
I'm glad you posted this question RayRay because I was wondering too.
Revvell - love your answer!
He did pique my interest about decalcifying ones body. *Ü*
when i worked for his company he was ALL about target markets and where to make the next big buck. better to go with someone who isn't such a "rockstar" i think. brian clement or gabriel cousins. eating for beauty, longevity, etc, they are just buzz words designed to attract overt attention. i personally would rather shell out $500 for something of substance.
sport
08-08-2009, 07:13 AM
when i worked for his company he was ALL about target markets and where to make the next big buck. better to go with someone who isn't such a "rockstar" i think. brian clement or gabriel cousins. eating for beauty, longevity, etc, they are just buzz words designed to attract overt attention. i personally would rather shell out $500 for something of substance.
I got the pushy sales lit as well but did not consider purchasing it for a moment. I am always suspicious of things that are being pushed in that manner. I was not even aware that it cost so much.
If I was going to shell out that sort of money I would prefer to go for the one that Jim Carey at chiadiet has done on the teachings of Anne Wigmore.
Seedy
08-08-2009, 07:53 AM
I heard David Wolfe talking about this recently on podcast. When he started going on about hitherto undiscovered microscopic clams plugging up the body I thought - Oh Lord, what is this man trying to sell now? I realize everyone has to make a living, but come on! Here, I'll save you $500... Eat fresh raw fruits and vegetables, lots of greens, sprouted seeds, beans and nuts, healthy raw unprocessed fats and occasionally something fermented like raw saurkraut, miso or kimchee to get some probiotics. Get plenty of exercise: include weight bearing, aerobic and stretching exercises. Manage your stress. Avoid toxic relationships. Be happy. If you need support in your raw journey, get it here. Its free.
Seedy
snoops
08-08-2009, 09:37 AM
I heard David Wolfe talking about this recently on podcast. When he started going on about hitherto undiscovered microscopic clams plugging up the body I thought - Oh Lord, what is this man trying to sell now? I realize everyone has to make a living, but come on! Here, I'll save you $500... Eat fresh raw fruits and vegetables, lots of greens, sprouted seeds, beans and nuts, healthy raw unprocessed fats and occasionally something fermented like raw saurkraut, miso or kimchee to get some probiotics. Get plenty of exercise: include weight bearing, aerobic and stretching exercises. Manage your stress. Avoid toxic relationships. Be happy. If you need support in your raw journey, get it here. Its free.
Seedy
HA - excellent post seedy:D
*RayRay*
08-08-2009, 09:57 AM
when i worked for his company he was ALL about target markets and where to make the next big buck
Yeah, this is the impression that I got, which is why I've never bought anything from him........ thanks for all the replies, it kinda confirms how i've felt about him, although i like watching his videos cause he's so enthusiastic...!
I was just wondering though if anyone who HAS purchased stuff from him thought it had any substance.......
anyone..........?
PammieTaj
08-08-2009, 10:54 AM
I bought his weight loss program. I haven't really used it - which is totally on me, not him. I will say that I think the tools I received - two decks of cards, several cd's, and a workbook - are good tools. I don't know how these tools are being produced, so I have no idea what the production costs were. I think he could have sold much more had he priced the program at about half what he did and still made money. But that's his business.
Before I received Alissa's book and dvd, I thought they were horribly expensive. When I got them I was really pleased with the quality of both. I felt and still feel that I more than got my money's worth from them. The pre-purchase me would probably still think it's a lot, and I'm sure there are people who visit the site and think it's a lot. Sometimes we have to risk something to gain something.
Ilse W.
08-08-2009, 11:09 AM
I'm with Seedy on this. $500 buys an awful lot of greens. There are really no secrets to longevity. If you want to educate yourself, I suggest you read books from 50 years ago or longer, when people still knew a lot more about real nutrition. Any time someone tries to tell me about the latest "secret" he discovered, I run the other way.
raw runner
08-08-2009, 12:16 PM
i think people are jealous of his success, he is making money, so what...common don't be hypocrites...he doesn't force you to buy its program...
*RayRay*
08-08-2009, 01:05 PM
I suggest you read books from 50 years ago or longer, when people still knew a lot more about real nutrition.
Yeah, I just read a book by arnold ehret .....loved it
he said:
Power - Obstuction = Vitality
pretty cool
i think people are jealous of his success, he is making money, so what...common don't be hypocrites...he doesn't force you to buy its program...
have you met him? spent any time with him in person? i have. can't say i'm the least bit jealous. if i wanted to make money like that i certainly could but it's just not about profit and "success" to me. i'm into integrity. i get the feeling that alissa is as well, that's why it's easier to shell out what might seem like a fair chunk of change for her product.
seedy, great post. really, really tremendous. best advice i've had in Days my friend.
rawrawks
08-08-2009, 05:37 PM
Its a no go for me on any big supastaw charging big bucks for stuff I dont need. Hawgwash.
Got another offer for over a thousand dollars for a program. Not for me.
SunChild
08-09-2009, 12:54 AM
I was dissapointed at the price, if it was under a hundred i would have bought it!
He did say once he would give it away for free but he wont because people don't value anything for free.
Bah!
I like his information though, I just don't feel comfortable with spending that amount of money for information that I am not sure I will be greatly enlightened by.
well i sure do value all the "free" advice and recipes i've received from all you generous people. something's inherent value has next to nothing to do with price tag in my book. sheesh, how shallow.
sport
08-09-2009, 10:13 AM
i think people are jealous of his success, he is making money, so what...common don't be hypocrites...he doesn't force you to buy its program...
I am a bit jealous of the fact that he is so good at selling himself and has such an air of positivity and confidence. I would pay for a bit of that. It is a great asset to have.
SunChild
08-09-2009, 11:32 PM
Besides all that I think he is gorgeous and I am very attracted to him. lol
Vrindavan
08-10-2009, 01:26 AM
Any one read his superfood book ? any bias ?
RawKnitster
08-10-2009, 03:24 AM
I love David's books. I have Sunfood Diet Success System, Eating for Beauty, and Superfoods. I see no bias in his Superfood book. I totally agree with him. All that said I do not buy his food products because they are overpriced. Case in point; his green food powder "Sun is Shining" is identical to "Alissa's Green Food Powder" and to "Vitamineral Green", but he charges almost double for the same 10 oz. bottle.
I forgive him for being a salesman, but I am sad to see where he has taken his empire. I wouldn't pay money for this information any more than I would pay money for the get rich schemes sold on late night television informercials.
Though he has claimed he did all along, David did not write the Sunfood Diet Success System. The book was almost completely plagarized from "Raw Eating" by Arshavir Ter Hovannessian to whom the "authors" of the Sunfood Diet give no credit whatsoever, claiming it as their own. There is a level of integrity that is sorely missing with that man. I wouldn't give him a dime of my money.
Sunchild, what can I say. Just because you think he's cute doesn't make him a good guy. I hope you can look past that. He's the "rockstar" of raw, he's not a good guy that way.
sport
08-10-2009, 09:02 AM
Though he has claimed he did all along, David did not write the Sunfood Diet Success System. The book was almost completely plagarized from "Raw Eating" by Arshavir Ter Hovannessian to whom the "authors" of the Sunfood Diet give no credit whatsoever, claiming it as their own. There is a level of integrity that is sorely missing with that man. I wouldn't give him a dime of my money.
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I was under the impression that he has since admitted that fact. Am I wrong.
I unsubscribed from his 'newsletter' a couple days ago. Wow - I got tired of being emailed daily (sometimes more) about this program and his hard sell/pressure tactics (sigh). *Ü*
Revvell
08-10-2009, 10:58 AM
I unsubscribed from his 'newsletter' a couple days ago. Wow - I got tired of being emailed daily (sometimes more) about this program and his hard sell/pressure tactics (sigh). *Ü*
As did I.... He and Gianni.
pixie_333
08-10-2009, 11:44 AM
Though he has claimed he did all along, David did not write the Sunfood Diet Success System. The book was almost completely plagarized from "Raw Eating" by Arshavir Ter Hovannessian to whom the "authors" of the Sunfood Diet give no credit whatsoever, claiming it as their own. There is a level of integrity that is sorely missing with that man. I wouldn't give him a dime of my money.
Sunchild, what can I say. Just because you think he's cute doesn't make him a good guy. I hope you can look past that. He's the "rockstar" of raw, he's not a good guy that way.
no, it's the natures first law book that david and 2 others basicaly copied.
as for the other books and basicaly almost every other book on the market writen by anyone is info learned from others. usualy why people are so misinformed with certain info because they trust anothers word.
ah, you're totally right about it being nature's first law and not sunfood diet (sunfood is the one with the rotten poetry in it. right). however, the info contained therein is NOT just a summary of info learned somewhere else, it is plagerized word for word. and yes, after many years of outright denial david did finally admit to harvesting from Arshavir Ter Hovannessian's work.
in my case i am not spouting heresay, i did work for the company as well as working in the industry for many years. believe what you will, my experiences are what i am basing my opinion on here.
T-Bird
08-10-2009, 01:28 PM
"There's a sucker born every minute" is a phrase often credited to P.T. Barnum (1810 – 1891), an American showman. It is generally taken to mean that there are (and always will be) a lot of gullible people in the world.
David Wolfe, born August 6, 1970[1] is a raw foodist who is the founder of the company Sunfood Nutrition (previously named Nature's First Law) and the charitable organization
I think this proves conclusively that David Wolfe is the reincarnation of PT Barnum...
T-Bird
08-10-2009, 01:37 PM
Besides all that I think he is gorgeous and I am very attracted to him. lol
RU for serious? If that is your real photo, then I am stunned you would even consider him worth glancing at....
He seem average looking to me, yet somehow repulsive cuz he's such a huckster. Maybe I would think differently if I met him, but even on youtube clips, just don't like to watch him. He so smug and self satified....
pixie_333
08-10-2009, 01:38 PM
ah, you're totally right about it being nature's first law and not sunfood diet (sunfood is the one with the rotten poetry in it. right). however, the info contained therein is NOT just a summary of info learned somewhere else, it is plagerized word for word. and yes, after many years of outright denial david did finally admit to harvesting from Arshavir Ter Hovannessian's work.
in my case i am not spouting heresay, i did work for the company as well as working in the industry for many years. believe what you will, my experiences are what i am basing my opinion on here.
although i hear it's legal what they did...i find it wrong to copy that guys book and make it look like ones own... but it wasn't just david doing it.. natures first law has 3 people claiming it their own and i know one of the other guys besides david has putten a book out since.. i think on weight lifting and being raw.
and while i don't support their actions... i am glad the book was passed onto me by a friend. and i haven't been able to find the original book by the original arthor.
but besides natures first law and that is different... but what else i am saying is that most books on the market dealing with health is all or mostly copied info from other people. it's very simple to put a book out. and because people copy others all the time is the reason so many people are filled with false info because often times what they learn aren't always the facts and/or pertain to everyone or thing.
i met david myself a few times (outside of his work etc) and the other guys and people who worked for david when he first started.
it's very simple... if one doesn't agree with what he does or it over weighs things one agrees with.. then avoid him.
i don't resonate with everything but i'm not going to attack him.. i have learned much from the guy.
and although i disagree with his explanation to charge so much for something he is selling.. it's his right to do so. also over charging brings more attention to him.. obviously negative to some in some cases, but it's his game plan. and some people connect more with the essense of ones being and reap in more awards from them than another person sharing info. this is life.
T-Bird
08-10-2009, 01:42 PM
as for the other books and basicaly almost every other book on the market writen by anyone is info learned from others. usualy why people are so misinformed with certain info because they trust anothers word.
Sadly so true....I saw victoria boutenko citing old thoughts about wheatgrass juice being 70% chlorophyll, it's really one about 1-2%.
She lost all credibility when I saw that - she is just repeating what she heard someone else say - and it not even keeping current.
rawrawks
08-10-2009, 06:34 PM
You might find thats what most do is quote something they heard from another.
He has nothing I am interested in at all. Yes overpriced stuff sold under a man who makes himself a god to others. I never got onto that bandwagon going nowhere.
Prices...yes why charge so stinkin much for all the stuff? And the emails offering us to spend big bucks. Just got one from the UK girl. Over 1,000 dollars. Oh my.
Enough I say.
Vrindavan
08-10-2009, 08:06 PM
making "RAW Food" a scam to newbies/outsiders
michigan roman
08-10-2009, 08:26 PM
my most respected raw food teacher is the ex member here ' rawtruth '
very erudite and totally up standing , very rigorous in her work to bring raw knowledge / facts to the world . mind like a vault , and a very very pleasant being with great wit
i several times requested she write a book on her outlook but have yet to hear of her published
we want "rt" , we want "rt" , we want "rt" :D
SevenKindsOfCookie
08-10-2009, 08:46 PM
Serenity Now! Serenity Now!
*RayRay*
08-10-2009, 10:21 PM
I didn't start this thread to be a "talk shit about David" thread.....I was actually interested in the original question........sorry it went down this road...:( I actually like David Wolfe..... lets all play nice from now on...:p
Raw Angel Mom
08-11-2009, 08:42 AM
I like David Wolfe also and my husband is one of his fan, lol... He buys many of his product and he has always being happy with them. He did buy the longetivity, he is totally fascinated by it. He admited to me that he didn't learn much of new informations that he already knew but he loves his book and this is very informative. So this is worth to him. I personally wouldn't have buy it because of the cost. David Wolfe is knowledgeable but it is true that his service or product are costly. If his product helps you to stay on track, there isn't any price for your health. I personally would have preferred that he offers retreat instead of internet service. Nothing beat the in person experience then through the internet.
Hope this help.
MangoMommy
08-11-2009, 10:38 AM
I like David too!! I use many different "guru's" information in my arsenal for staying raw. This spring I was getting a bit bored with raw and feeling a bit uninspired. I have to tell you, when I feel that way, I don't run to watch a Gabriel Cousin interview, even though he has great information. I actually went to a David Wolfe seminar and well, Total Inspiration!! The whole event was ultra charging up of the raw food batteries!! I don't purchase all my products through him except for goji berries. I never liked goji berries until I tried his. I thought they were all the same, but they are not. Its not that I like buying the more expensive stuff just because I want to pay more, but in this case, I do because of the quality.
And oh, I paid 4 times as much to Alissa's chef certification (well worth every penny, by the way) and feel it was a great investment. Of those of you who went to her classes, what if you had a dvd or cd of that entire weekend to listen to whenever you wanted. It would be amazing!! That's what David's cds are. You can listen to them again and again and always pick up something that you didn't hear or get the first time.
and awww...Revel...if I am not mistaken, wasnt that you on the video of the Durian eating contest between Matt Monarch and David Wolfe?? It didn't look like you were protesting there....It actually looked like a smile on your face!! ;)
Revvell
08-11-2009, 11:10 AM
and awww...Revel...if I am not mistaken, wasnt that you on the video of the Durian eating contest between Matt Monarch and David Wolfe?? It didn't look like you were protesting there....It actually looked like a smile on your face!! ;)
Yes, it was me. So, what's your point? I'm not protesting here, or anywhere else.
ReVveLL
green jeanie
08-12-2009, 02:46 AM
i love david too,
he is the first influence i had during my initial solo investigation of raw. I felt he had a pure transmission of the joyous vibration and love of the planet's energy and I will never forget the impact.
and i agree his food products are full of the same energy and integrity and are far superior to many other products out there
i don't go for the other "program" stuff but as a business owner i get it. he's got a schtick but it's better than a pushing starbucks right? and as a business owner let me tell you.....what the guy does for his business and mission ain't easy. It takes massive dedication and effort. He's got a green business that supports a ton of workers and gives them work they can get behind with their heart and is educating a shit ton of consumers for the cause we all believe in right?
walk in the guy's shoes. don't be a couch criticizer. he's a hero on many levels
Raw Joy
08-12-2009, 09:57 AM
Over the years, DW has seemed more and more to me like a huckster. Not saying that he isn't knowledgeable. I bought the original Sunfood book; liked the book but thought the poems was inappropriate. I don't spend good money on books for information to have someone fill pages and pages of it with their poetry. Also thought it was rather egotistical. But hey, no big deal.
I think what put me off was when I bought the revised version of the Eating for Beauty Book. Only to find that most of the revisions was him hawking his his products that he developed to be best you could ever, ever get because only he knew how to do it and you'll never find anything better to make your skin glow. That was kind of the beginning of my cynicism.
Then the raw chocolate. Which was THE secret. Then the superfoods. Which was THE secret. Now the longevity. It just seems like he comes up with something, rides it as long as he can, and when it begins to wane, he comes up with something else. I mean, what happened to good, organic, raw food? Which was THE secret. :confused:
I'm going away now to eat my apricots.
SevenKindsOfCookie
08-12-2009, 11:03 AM
I think David is an awesome motivational speaker. I mean he has the ability to turn people onto raw foods like few others can. He especially attracts younger people because he makes it fun and cool to be raw.
That said, he's not the guy I would turn to for nutritional or spiritual advice.
He does have a lot of interesting things to say, but I always keep in mind that much of what he say is a sales pitch and should be taken with a grain of salt.
But I guess that's a good thing because it inspires me to look more deeply into the subjects he talks about.
Vrindavan
08-12-2009, 11:17 AM
>> motivational speaker
good point
MLM or direct sales industry needs him
T-Bird
08-13-2009, 10:10 AM
I think David is an awesome motivational speaker. I mean he has the ability to turn people onto raw foods like few others can. He especially attracts younger people because he makes it fun and cool to be raw.
similar to charles manson in that respect....
Raw Joy
08-13-2009, 11:45 AM
ha ha T-Bird. Not that I'm comparing DW to Manson. But for some reason, that hit me as funny.
Hope that doesn't come across as inappropriate. :eek:
dynamicdr
08-16-2009, 10:29 AM
I had not heard about David Wolfe until getting emails about his new program, which sounded fabulous. $ 497.00 sounded a bit steep, so when he offered a payment plan, starting at $ 97.00, I jumped on the bandwagon. What disappointment! The information is good, but could be found by an online research. His book saves time as it is already a compiled search. The CDs?... He is just reading his book, which I can do faster by myself. $ 397.00 of the $ 497.00 is to attend the event he will have in Southern CA, which I cannot attend. I sent the program back; so far I have not gotten my money back, have been charged for another payment, have not gotten any responses to either my emails or phone messages. I am very DISAPPOINTED!
rawrawks
08-16-2009, 12:07 PM
I didn't start this thread to be a "talk shit about David" thread.....I was actually interested in the original question........sorry it went down this road...:( I actually like David Wolfe..... lets all play nice from now on...:p
I guess you gotta know, the subject matter would naturally draw out peoples opinions on "gurus" selling stuff to us all.
Most of us who has given any info (email) to them are inundated with offers to pass along our bux to them so they can go live in paradise. Its not my raw plan and I wont support that at all.
Its ok, it is what it is and simply notice. Oh no sh** here as I can see.
I had not heard about David Wolfe until getting emails about his new program, which sounded fabulous. $ 497.00 sounded a bit steep, so when he offered a payment plan, starting at $ 97.00, I jumped on the bandwagon. What disappointment! The information is good, but could be found by an online research. His book saves time as it is already a compiled search. The CDs?... He is just reading his book, which I can do faster by myself. $ 397.00 of the $ 497.00 is to attend the event he will have in Southern CA, which I cannot attend. I sent the program back; so far I have not gotten my money back, have been charged for another payment, have not gotten any responses to either my emails or phone messages. I am very DISAPPOINTED!
Thank you for posting this dynamicdr. I won't be doing business with them if this is what their "customer service" is like.
I hope you're able to get this resolved in a timely manner. Can you contact your credit card company and have them remove the charges? *Ü*
Revvell
08-16-2009, 12:25 PM
I had not heard about David Wolfe until getting emails about his new program...
Which you had to sign up for. Wondering why your first post here is about David, poor customer service, etc. This kind of thing always makes me a little bit suspicious of what's behind the post.
ohmyhead
01-08-2010, 10:34 AM
Dynamicdr:
Did you ever get your Longevity Now Program problems resolved? Unfortunately, I am having a similar experience and could use any advice you could offer.
To others out there, I would definately suggest not purchasing this program.
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