~ alcohol @ raw restaurants

[SunChild]

So I noticed raw alcohol being served at the first raw restaurant that i have been to. I was surprised but then, I noticed that a lot of people still enjoyed it. It just doesn't seem to jive with the raw lifestyle. Maybe that's just me?

I like wine though, but now that i am raw, having 1 glass sends me tipsy and I am super sensitive and any more than that I would lose my raw high!

Does anyone still drink alcohol? I would but no more than 1 serve, then I would even think twice!

[klomasius]

Yup, living life is not just about health, in fact, health and happiness are so interlinked that sometimes something that looks on the surface to be fairly unhealthy might in fact be immensley healthy because of the soothing, calming and social effects.

I'm not saying binge drink away, but a glass or two every now and then for some is sheer sublime pleasure and to be treasured.

p.s. for some, chocolate doesn't jibe with the raw lifestyle, or fat, or eating non organic etc...

[pixie_333]

if it's raw then it basicaly falls in to the okay catergory for many. and perhaps some of those dining there aren't raw people.

personaly i don't favor it. anything that gives us a high like that and takes us way off balance mentaly, emotionaly and physicaly isn't a good thing for the body, mind and spirit.. especialy if used for insecurities.

in addition... alcohol is an addictive.. anything one can become addicted to isn't good. we can't become addicted to grapes, spinach and bananas etc and have withdrawls from it like alcohol and crack etc... even if one isn't an alcoholic... alcohol is basicaly used for the same reason by all that engage in it.
i favor being high off of life.

[Revvell]

First of all, not everyone who goes to a raw restaurant is raw or has been raw long enough for it to make a difference in their drinking habits.

I believe Alissa sells wine at Grezzo, although, not having been there, don't know for chure.

[snoops]

Cafe Gratitude got a winery in the Sonoma Valley to make an organic raw wine just for their restaurants. It was a very nice tasting wine:cool:

[jraw]

Alissa does sell organic wines and raw sake. She also sells numerous non-alcoholic cocktails as well.

[rawrawks]

To each his or her own. Life is such a celebration and a high all by itself that I rarely imbibe. If so it is a small amount of raw organic wine and is wonderful.

[NaiveJeanette]

I feel that alcohol is still a poison in any amount, organic and raw or not. That's why fruit goes bad, the sugar turns to alcohol. Isn't that also why people put alcohol on their cuts? to KILL the infection etc?

I used to say that as a raw foodist I would still drink wine and sake, but I'm 22 now and I've made the decision not to drink it at all. I've read a lot about the effects of alcohols and while there ARE benefits to drinking red wine, there are too many negative effects to really reap any good from it.

Heck, I've never liked the taste of any kind of alcohol, not even wine, so no biggie for me to "give up" :P

[freelive]

I never liked alcohol, but what others do is not my pie. I am glad they have a choice.

[ViolinCyndee]

Yes I do drink an occasional glass of wine. :)

[rawrawks]

Free choice rawks on! Long live free choice and letting others to it!

[boocake]

I enjoy raw wine from time to time, as I like the way that it accentuates certain flavors in my meals.

[SunChild]

Good responses.

Perhaps once we go raw that less is more when it comes to medicinal things like alcohol. On a cooked diet of pasta I could drink a whole bottle, no probs. Now? I would be violently ill. I remember Peter Ragnar liked 1 glass of red wine a day. I just remembered that. Medicine comes in different forms for different people. I use the term medicine because my Mum would talk about it like that while giving her sage advice.
Like Cacao for some, is considered medicinal and sacred, and not just a food.
I think poison is an overdose of something medicinal.
When you go raw I notice you tolerate a lot less of things, but a little is ok. In every culture, in the history of humanity there is evidence of stimulants and relaxants to a high degree, consumed by most people. It is human nature.

[pixie_333]

In every culture, in the history of humanity there is evidence of stimulants and relaxants to a high degree, consumed by most people. It is human nature.

and look at what it does to us! it takes us off balance, causes people to do things they wouldn't ordinarly do sober.
i believe all of us have either done so, been done upon or witnessed fights, aurguments, abuse, drunk driving, death, sex, blackouts, hangovers.. waking up next morning regreting many things.
alcohol and drugs is a controled substance. and even a few sips of a drink changes your energy etc from it's natural state.

it may be human nature for some to engage in this... but why? it often falls into insecuity and not feeling content with self. there's always something to escape from from reality when people chose the drink. always. but it doesn't have to be this way. infact i believe our soul and higher self encourages us to not take yourself out onto the hands of a substance that changes and controls ones into a negative state of being.

hey, i'm an alcoholic... it isn't that i just speak on experience.. i haven't always been one. but i see it the same with everyone. in fact being sober since i quit and when i'm around people who drink... it just validates everything to me once again because i see them changing while drinking. some people feel they can't manage in life or have a carefree smile unless they drink. and some people care to avoid me because i am sober and i don't preach about anything. maybe because they are insecure and aren't ready for what i have reached in my life.
and some people throw in jesus drank. well we all most likely weren't incarnated during then and if so remember if the man did. and i was actualy yelled at once because i don't eat fish and apparently jesus did.

i just stand strong behind it to be free from mind alternating things like that..even if a fruit is raw and gives visions etc. you aren't in control of everything. i even felt this way while i was using being against it... but hey i am human too and here on earth and witness and experience many of the same things... just had to ease my way into self acceptance etc and therefore learned alcohol etc is nothing but an emeny.

[SunChild]

Yeah it definitely takes us away from out true nature that's for sure, in different degrees, True and sad Pixie.

If I had to choose a preferred way to alter my own mind consciousness it would be with a Shaman and a power plant. That would be ideal for an experience with plant-spirit.

The most common social lubricant, alcohol, serves a purpose to relax, calm and loosen one up. why do we crave this? Stress on the human organism? And the accumulative effect is tragic.
I wonder why we feel the need to alter ourselves?
Why do we like alcohol?
The more I think about it, the less I desire it. bleh. It feels wrong.

[Mandy]

I like to have a glass every now and then (meaning about once a month). I also noticed that I don't have near the tolerance I used to have. After I'd been raw for 4 weeks I thought I'd let myself have a treat and went out drinking with the girls... never again... I'll still go out with the girls, but I will never consume that amount of alcohol again in my life. I went back to SAD the entire following day because of the hangover and reaped the precussions of that two days after. It's just not worth it. I'd rather keep my sanity and health.