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cnjd36
11-02-2004, 05:36 AM
I got up yesterday afternoon and went to my mailbox and there it was, my book and DVD. It has been a slow midnight shift for me today so I was able to watch the DVD. It is INSPIRING I want to go out and start this way of eating but I figure I better read the book and go to the store first. My eldest daughter (22) went through the book and marked what she wanted to try first, my book is already full of her post it notes. My youngest (18) has diabetes and wants to try some of the things but is afraid that her blood sugars will skyrocket and she has just gotten them under control for the most part. She is a type 1.
Alissa, if you read this post: I know you talked about people being able to beat Diabetes, was this type 1 or type 2 or both.
Thanks everyone and have a great day.
qetta
11-02-2004, 06:44 AM
I just got my book yesterday afternoon too! I'm going to use a vacation day to stay home and read it today :)
cnjd36
11-02-2004, 07:05 AM
Oh to take a vacation day would have been wonderful! Where in Minnesota are you from? I'm in Avon about 20 miles from St Cloud. I'll go home to sleep after 8 this am and then read for the late afternoon and evening.
Kristi
11-02-2004, 07:22 AM
raw can cure type 1 and type 2 diabetes.
Alissa
11-02-2004, 08:12 AM
cnjd36,
Kristis right, it can help both. Have your daughter try some of the recipes. If she's not all raw yet have her try the less sweet things. If she likes it ands wants to go all raw etc.. We can do a consult. There are things i would need to know first and things she would need to know to help her through it. But she can really make major improvements in her health by just incorporating a lot of raw in her diet now. She would eventually be able to eat fruit and everything but again if she is not all raw she doesnt want to add the sweet fruits along with her other foods, too much of that will cause a spike. So have her try 'meals' like burgers, fett. Alfredo, falafel, pizza, etc... Instead of what she is going to want, dessert and sweet drinks, etc...
ox A
Curtis
11-02-2004, 12:59 PM
Alissa I been meaning to ask you this for awhile.
My dad is in his 70's and has had diabetes for a number of years. Can this way of eating help folks who are older with it to? Next question how do I bring this up to him? My thinking is let this way of eating change my life first then approach him with it after that. Would welcome any ideas on helping ones friends or parents with this, ty. :)
tglasco4
11-02-2004, 01:42 PM
Hiya Curtis,
My grandmother is 87 and has been diabetic for the last 30 years. Last year she stayed with me for 6 weeks. We were not raw then, but we ate our raws first at every meal and made them the heaviest part of the meal. After the first week she was able to reduce her insulin. After 3 weeks she was not taking it at all! She would go for a walk of about a mile each day. We would make sure she would have fresh fruit and veggies every day. My mother was concerned because she had stopped taking her insulin. She insisted on my grandma leaving us because where she lived she was under the full-time care of an MD. So, we didnt want to fight over it and she left. The MD let her eat pizza and flesh foods. Within 3 weeks she was in the hospital. A few weeks ago they were considering aputating her foot from complications of the diabeties. My wife and I are sad because we know if she was able to stay with us for about 3 months, she would have been off insulin forever. Yes, Curtis, I believe your dad can be completely healed with a live food diet and exercise. I would pray first and ask your Heavenly Father for the proper time and place. Also ask Him to prepare your fathers heart and mind. Sometimes in wanting to share such wonderful news with family and friends, we can appear to be fanatical. This lifestyle is totally foreign to about 98% of the population. So it takes tact and a life example to be a good witness as to its power.
Peace and Blessings.
Todd
Curtis
11-02-2004, 08:50 PM
Hi Todd, thanks for your reply will do that. My mom being a nurse just keeps seeing his blood sugar levels going up and just believes he won't live much longer because of it. Of course this is just her training talking because they were not taught much about diet effecting it much less curing it.
Helen Of Tennessee
11-02-2004, 09:43 PM
Hi CNJD,
Sergei Boutenko overcame his juvenile diabetes with an all raw diet. You can read his brief story here:
http://www.rawfamily.com/sergei.htm
Here's another testimoniy:
Baby Blue Girl RawFood.com bulletin board Juvenile Diabetes
http://www.rawfood.com/forum/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=000009
<>< Helen of Tennessee
Wrecked Spark
11-03-2004, 08:41 AM
[QUOTE=tglasco4] Sometimes in wanting to share such wonderful news with family and friends, we can appear to be fanatical. This lifestyle is totally foreign to about 98% of the population. So it takes tact and a life example to be a good witness as to its power.
I think that is really key Todd... well said.
And Curtis,
I think it's absolutely deplorable that doctors and nurses are not trained in nutrition ~ imagine the power we would have to cure and heal OURSELVES if that weren't the case. Maybe it's my conspiracy-theory mindset speaking, but do you ever wonder if perhaps that's the whole idea? By keeping the population sick and believing we are powerless, we are suppressable and controllable??
I could quite possibly have just opened a can of worms. :o
All the very best,
Wrecked Spark
tglasco4
11-03-2004, 09:11 AM
Hi WreckedSpark,
Yes, its true. Money is a motivating factor as to why the medical industry is what it is. If the majority of the populace where educated in the laws of life and health, so that the understanding of the body's ability to heal itself were mainstream, how much money would the medical industry lose? They would lose literally billions. Particularly the drug industry. Its a multi-billion dollar industry. I may get into trouble here, but I will say it anyways, many of the "research" groups (i.e. cancer research, diabetes research, aids research) are money making operations that do research for the grant money available. Millions and millions of dollars of it. If people found out that the body has the ability to heal itself of these things, what need would there be for the grants? NONE. But again, we must be tactful and live by example. Nothing is more powerful than a living testimony.
Todd
Wrecked Spark
11-03-2004, 09:55 AM
Oh thank goodness!
Of course I've been thinking this way for what seems like eons... but it's funny... I learned long ago not to speak of these opinions as I have offended people ~ completely unintentionally. I have suggested very respectfully that perhaps there are other avenues to explore that could either help the drugs or render the drugs unnecessary ~ or at the very least, help to make them feel better. I was met with scornful looks (or blank stares) as though I was trying to make things worse or didn't know what I was talking about. Truthfully, I think I was shining light on an aspect of the situation they would prefer not to consider... I think these people DID NOT WANT to take responsibility for their illness either because they were receiving attention, sympathy, extra care, etc., (above and beyond the normal, of course!) and thrived on that alone, or because they have always been comfortable giving their power over to something else. I find these are always the people who blindly accept the information given by mainstream sources as FACT (politicians, government organizations, medical doctors, mainstream media sources, etc.) without OBJECTIVELY THINKING about where this information has come from. I think my key word here is objective thinking.
I have always found that those who take responsibility for themselves heal themselves the fastest... as what you focus on expands... (magic of focused meditation, focused intention or prayer ~ whichever you'd prefer to call it). If you focus on getting well and expanding your health, that's what you'd see... if you focus on how ill you are and the attention you are receiving for it, you will see that expand as well. I think that's very powerful.
The medical industry is booming because people ALLOW it to. I just finished reading an amazing article about where the pink ribbon for breast cancer came from. Did you know that the company who produced it as a symbol of hope in research is the pharmaceutical company who produces the largest proportion of breast cancer medication and provides consulting services and manages the operation of numerous comprehensive cancer-care facilities throughout the United States? As the primary multi-million dollar corporate sponser of National Breast Cancer Awareness Month, pharmaceutical giant Astra-Zeneca was owned by Imperial Chemical Industries, a leading international manufacturer of industrial chemicals and carcinogenic pesticides. ICI manufactures the plastic ingredient polyvinyl acetochlor, classified by the Environmental Protection Agency as a "probable human carcinogen."
Eh-hem. I digress, I know, but I am very passionate about educating people about the "story behind the story". We cannot have the wool thrown over our eyes when we are aware of what's REALLY going on!
At any rate, those within the mainstream medical community (doctos and nurses) have been fed incomplete information (you will be aware Curtis that diet and nutrition is merely an ELECTIVE course in medical school) and so do not even consider the power of living foods and its role in a healthy, vibrant life. I am thinking about you Curtis... I wish you all the very best success in being able to help your father in finding a more vibrant existence, rather than simply accepting his situation. You have the power to help, and while we need to mind our manners with regards to our philosophy with friends and acquaintances, this is your father's life... please share your wisdom! You may not even realize the impact it could have on his quality of life unless you try! I wish you all the best success and luck.
Cheers,
Wrecked Spark
Curtis
11-03-2004, 01:03 PM
To me this is why the internet can be a powerful learning tool for all of us. I have suggested to friends if they are interested in learning more about a certain topic to check out a certain site. This way they can research for themselves and see that this is not just my opinion. :)
Wrecked Spark
11-03-2004, 01:37 PM
You gots it!!! ;)
Self-education is the most powerful vehicle of learning there is.
Well... besides having a great network of friends here. :D
Cheers,
Wrecked Spark
corky
11-03-2004, 09:14 PM
Well said everyone!! My mother was on drugs for depression for a long time--which itself was justified and didn't need drugs for--just a kind loving family and someone to listen, but drugs make people money and eventually she died at 43 because no one was managing her drugs and i was in university and working and trying to help her but i didn't know how, i just knew that all these drugs weren't the answer. Wasn't it obvious she just needed someone to care for her situation?? I didn't get it and now she isn't here--but i have learnt something from her experience and that i don't care how bad life gets--there is always a cure for depression (and most everything else) without drugs! And lifestyle, happiness and diet are huge in that--but don't make the multi corporations any money. Very sad indeed! Just b4 she died she gave me a plaque that said "what a difference it makes in my life just to know, that there's someone like you who believes in me so." I always gave her the pep talks everyone else gave her drugs or psychiatry for.
Helen Of Tennessee
11-03-2004, 10:28 PM
Hi Corky,
What a wonderful plaque your mother gave you!!!! You know you meant the world to her and if there was anything you could have done for her, she knew you would have.
<>< Helen of Tennessee
corky
11-04-2004, 05:03 AM
Yes I know--thanks Helen!
Curtis
11-04-2004, 08:14 AM
True :) I consider all you guys and gals my friends and am thankful I found this
forum.
[QUOTE=Wrecked Spark]
Well... besides having a great network of friends here. :D
Trisha
01-13-2006, 12:44 PM
My book should be here anyday!!!! Soooo excited!!
Trisha :D
aromaticwings
04-23-2006, 10:52 PM
Hi CNJD,
Sergei Boutenko overcame his juvenile diabetes with an all raw diet. You can read his brief story here:
http://www.rawfamily.com/sergei.htm
Here's another testimoniy:
Baby Blue Girl RawFood.com bulletin board Juvenile Diabetes
http://www.rawfood.com/forum/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=000009
<>< Helen of Tennessee
Looking for articles type 2 diabeties and type one.. not a juvenile and how raw saved their live or healed them. I have a friend with diabeties but she would not read something if it was for juvenile diabeties because this is not what she has.. can anyone pointment to sites for adult kinds?? She is interested at this point in raw and I want to get her the ifo before she loses this interest. :o
Helen Of Tennessee
04-24-2006, 02:20 AM
Hi Aromaticwings,
Here are a number of testimonies and articles on diabetes:
Marylyn Szakacs - diabetes
http://www.livingnutrition.com/articles/diabetic.html
Lynda Carter
http://aliveandraw.com/carter.html
My Story Diabetes Conquered!!! By Janice Welsh
http://eatfreshfood.com/_wsn/page2.html
James Martin
http://www.ecopolitan.com/eco-life/testimonials/james-martin
Grains root of problem
http://www.mercola.com/2003/aug/2/diabetic_warrior1.htm
Kaytka Speaks Well Informed Daughter gives Mother new life
http://www.waldorfhomeschoolers.com/savemom.htm
Janies many links of Scientific Data on Diabetes
e-mail me, bargas@charter.net and Ill send Diabetes with Scientific Data
Food Causing Diabetes
http://www.13.waisays.com/diabetes
Diet and Diabetes:The Meat of the Matter
by John McDougall, M.D.
http://www.earthsave.org/newsletters/diabetes.htm
Arias testimony (7th post down)
http://www.rawfoodsupport.com/read.php?f=1&i=49846&t=49710
How a Raw Food Diet has Helped My Diabetes type 1
http://www.organicathlete.org/articles/interviews/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=249&Itemid=63
aromaticwings
04-24-2006, 08:12 AM
thanks Helen, these will be sent to my friend... will let you know what she says...
aromaticwings
07-30-2006, 12:48 PM
thanks Helen, these will be sent to my friend... will let you know what she says...
Well, to give an update on this subject.. Still dealing with friend. she has not read have the stuff I have sent. I asked her last night if she had ..she said 70% she has read. Her husband says raw foodists are quacks that just want you to buy their items..
asked my friend why she continues to go the route she has been when she continues to have problems.. is tired of dealing with all the problems. I asked her why not try something new.. thus far what she has been doing has not been working much only pushing her further underwater. She is pretty bad and sounds like her insulin was just upped again at last drs appointment her sugars showed over 600.. so here we are at the beginning. I told her I get so frustrated with her not trying to help herself and I care for her and her health and something in me just feels the need to try and convince her that the raw food life is the way to go. she seems to rely alot on the national diabetic association for her info...
it is so frustatingly and saddening to see her go through all this when I know this could help her alot if not totally.. If she has organs that are too far gone surely it will make her feel so much better and help her have a more normal life.. she is so young only 28.. to be going through all this.
I wish she had the money to go to a fasting clinic somewhere with a very experienced dr so she could feel the difference. then she would see. :(
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