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Suzy Sparkles
08-14-2005, 04:42 PM
Hi Everyone,
I bought this fruit at the grocery store today and the sign said it was a ploot.
Does anyone know what this is?
It tastes like a apricot. It was very good!
Thanks,
Sue
RawTruth
08-14-2005, 04:58 PM
Do you mean pluot? It's a hybridized fruit -- a cross between a plum and an apricot -- which has been genetically modified to create a "new" fruit that Nature didn't create. In fact, the name pluot is a trademarked name.
starry-eyed-doe
08-14-2005, 07:07 PM
lol, that's what i was thinking-- do you mean pluot? yup, they're genetically modified, so i would stay away. what's wrong with god-given plums and apricots alone?! lol.
SedonaSun
08-14-2005, 07:25 PM
Speaking of odd new fruits... what's with these flat or UFO or Saturn peaches? I never saw them before this summer, but at those prices, I'm not trying one any time soon just to find out they taste like a peach :)
Revvell
08-14-2005, 07:32 PM
Actually, I did what I tell so many others to do ~ I just googled the pluot. It is not, according to my research, genetically modified. It is cross-polinated which makes it a hybrid. It is 75% plum and 25% apricot. When the percentages are reversed it is an aprium. If what I've read is accurate, nectarines are also cross polinated. Cross-pollination means: fertilization of a plant from a plant with a different genetic make-up. One dictionary term for genetically modified is ~ having it's genes modified by direct human intervention. These plants have been modified in the laboratory to enhance desired traits such as increased resistance to herbicides or imporved nutritional content.
http://www.ext.colostate.edu/pubs/garden/07002.pdf
starry-eyed-doe
08-14-2005, 07:36 PM
^aaaaahhh. i had always heard it was gen. mod. hmm. it may be a dumb question, but is cross pollenation okay? i mean, it could happen in nature, right? or no? lol, i am definitely no scientist!
starry-eyed-doe
08-14-2005, 07:37 PM
p.s. where i live they call those saturn UFO looking peaches "donut" peaches! they are strange looking, when you're used to seeing a normal peach, arent they!
Wow...I was just looking at those weird pluots today at the grocery store. Had never seen or heard of them before. The little sign they had at my store said they were genetically modified. I immediately put the weird looking thing back.....
Revvell
08-14-2005, 08:42 PM
Yeah, I've seen those. Not even gonna go there. Amazing what folk do to what nature's provided for us, isn't it?
p.s. where i live they call those saturn UFO looking peaches "donut" peaches! they are strange looking, when you're used to seeing a normal peach, arent they!
Sharon in Colorado
08-14-2005, 08:47 PM
I've also heard of pluots being called dinosaur eggs, lol.
I love donut/saturn peaches. They are so cute, and I got quite a few when they were on sale. I just think they are another variety of peach, if I'm not mistaken.
Most fruit today has been hybridized. There is nothing wrong with it, just nature doing its thang. I've heard a lot of raw foodists diss bananas etc. because of it.
"Wild thang...you make my heart sing..."
sweetgoddess
08-14-2005, 08:50 PM
An elderly friend of mine back in Washington State has a donut peach tree. He has been growing them for ages. They are very good , and not a new thing.
Blessings~
Tangelos are another example of cross-pollination; in this case between tangerines and oranges. They have been around for years. This is something that could happen simply by planting them near each other.
An example of GMO is where genes from fish are taken and added to tomatoes to keep them from freezing and would never happen in nature.
Teri S
starry-eyed-doe
08-14-2005, 09:13 PM
fish genes? oh gosh. i didn't know it had reached to the point of using animals to make altered veggies/fruits. i just thought it was fruits/veggies to make altered fruits/veggies. how sick!
Revvell
08-14-2005, 09:27 PM
O.k., now I want a donut peach thingy. :)
An elderly friend of mine back in Washington State has a donut peach tree. He has been growing them for ages. They are very good , and not a new thing.
Blessings~
Suzy Sparkles
08-14-2005, 09:32 PM
Hi Everyone,
Thanks for the info on the Plout. The sign at the grocery store called it a ploot,lol.
It tasted pretty good very similar to a apricot. but at $3.84 a lb I won't be buying it again.
My husband challenged our nieces and nephews to try a fruit or vegetable
they had never had before. So that's where the plout comes in. We bought one and everyone tried a bite.
We weren't sure what it was but I knew I could count on you guys to know thw answer.
You guys are the greatest! :D
Sue
rawpriestess
08-14-2005, 09:45 PM
concerning animals and food
They use the genes of jelly fish with potatoes, which makes the potatoes glow in the dark if they need water.
They say it won't hurt people, and you arent' supposed to eat the glow in the dark ones.
They use them in individual rows, to let the farmers know when to water the potatoes.
This is supposed to cut down on over or under watering making for a better crop ot potatoes.
Now, personally I don't eat potatoes, so I don't worry about this, but it seems pretty frickin' frankenstien-ish to me.
Or maybe closer to Dr. Moreau's island?
rawpriestess
08-14-2005, 10:22 PM
Here, in my neck of the woods
they are called plucots
I did touch one, but it's energy felt weird, so I didn't buy it.
RawTruth
08-15-2005, 02:19 AM
The pluot is definitely genetically engineered (no, not the same thing as genetically modified, which is far more subtle than fish scales, folks!), but still not something that would occur in Nature without massive interference by Man.
Read about the process the originator used to achieve the hybridization:
According to David Karp, who visited Zaigers nursery, almost all of the original plum-apricot crosses were sterile, but a few bore fruit, and Zaiger started saving the seedlings of the most flavorful ones for further crossings. Even today, Zaigers hybridization is painstaking, involving elaborate climate control and transferring pollen with an eyebrow brush.
An eyebrow brush?!?! And most of the crosses were sterile? You can eat them if you wish, of course, but I bow out. I just have an aversion to eating things that people have produced from messing around like that. Humans don't do nearly as good a job, and often cause unintended consequences further down the line, as that done by Nature/God/Universe. (Look at the fact that there is little corn left that isn't GMO!)
Oh ... attributions: that quote is from http://www.moscowfood.coop/archive/pluot.html
sport
08-15-2005, 05:50 AM
We are lucky in Europe and we have a lot less genetically modified stuff on sale here. It has been banned, but the U.S. gov as a result of being lobbied by Monsanto (the mose evil thing that ever appeared in the world) are put ting pressure on the E.U. to relax the ban. I read an article in the past few days that says that monsanto are claiming ownership of millions of pigs that have been bred using a technique that they invented to the detrement of many poor farmers. They produce dead genetically modified grain that they sell to farmers in the third world and the grain is sterile. Normally the farmer would hold a persentage of his grain to plant for next year's harvest but now he is forced to go back to monsanta every year to purchase more grain to plant. They are evil evil evil people
Revvell
08-15-2005, 08:16 AM
Read about the process the originator used to achieve the hybridization:
According to David Karp, who visited Zaigers nursery, almost all of the original plum-apricot crosses were sterile, but a few bore fruit, and Zaiger started saving the seedlings of the most flavorful ones for further crossings. Even today, Zaigers hybridization is painstaking, involving elaborate climate control and transferring pollen with an eyebrow brush.
Oh ... attributions: that quote is from http://www.moscowfood.coop/archive/pluot.html
O.k., here's the question I've been asking "organic" farmers ~ how can seedless watermelon and now pluots be organic? Just in how the food is grown ~ not "what" is grown? If this is correct, then, GMO stuff can also be organic, yes? I'm sooo confused!!! :confused:
:cool:
Rawadventures
08-15-2005, 08:20 AM
Okay, so the bottom line - are they good or bad? Is it a preference? If it is modified or genetically engineered then does that make it bad? I started reading this post after I had an organic pluot for breakfast. It was sooo good, by the way.
Well, if they are bad then I won't buy them any more, that is for sure!
Teri
Jackie1995
08-15-2005, 08:44 AM
Lately, I've been getting the feeling that, like so much else in our world, "natural" fruits and veggies are already a thing of the past.
We're lucky to have stuff that even LOOKS like it used to!
Add the pesticides, herbicides, poor mineral content and lack of flavor, it's not easy to keep up a "live food" lifestyle.
Still, it's all we've got, especially those of us who live far from real farmer's markets.
Down here, "farmers market" means enterprising individuals who buy produce in bulk from somewhere other than local farmers, charge a little less than the super markets and sell it to folks like me who didn't know the difference until recently.
What's a girl to do?
sport
08-15-2005, 08:51 AM
You have to distinguish betweem genetically modified (where they splice genes) and hybrid where the add the natural pollen of a natural plant to another natural plant and come up with a new plant. Or sometimes they splice a shoot from one plant on to the stem of another. They have been doing that for centuries and there is not a thing wrong with it. Putting some genes from fish in the tomato plant is a very different thing and is more akin to feeding the ground up carcus of sheep to cows and thereby causing mad cow disease.
sweetgoddess
08-17-2005, 09:30 AM
You can, and I do, buy non-hybridized seeds. I buy from the Victory Seed Company, AbundantLife Seeds, and Seeds of Change.
I urge everyone interested in this issue to read this website, especially the part on Seed Legislation and the difference between "heirloom" "open-pollinated" etc seeds.
http://www.victoryseeds.com/information/why_heirlooms.html
And also to vist this website.
http://www.primalseeds.org/
who's mission is to "actively engage in protecting biodiversity
and creating local food security It is a response to industrial biopiracy,
control of the global seed supply and of our food
This evolving tool is designed to empower individuals to participate in the creation of tomorrow ."
This is a fabulous site!!
O.k., here's the question I've been asking "organic" farmers ~ how can seedless watermelon and now pluots be organic? Just in how the food is grown ~ not "what" is grown? If this is correct, then, GMO stuff can also be organic, yes? I'm sooo confused
You got it Revvell. It has to be grown from organic seed though, but there are plenty of hybridized organic seed sources and they are easier to grow-require a little less attention, and are cheaper.
Blessings~
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