help!

[flea]

hey everyone,

Ive been 100% raw for about 2-3 months now, and before that was vegan for years, and fruit till noon vegan (so in other words a super healthy vegan).

when i transitioned i did it slowly and got some detox symptoms but i think theyre mainly gone now.

my problem is im ALWAYS hungry!

im 21, like 52 kilos, do no exercise, but i eat hourly, and seem to eat about double of what everyone else eats!

my problem is not eating a lot or eating lots of fat, im not worried about weight gain, but more the simple fact that eating this much and this often is really inconvenient - i cant do anything for prolonged periods of time and if i go out for an hour or two i have to bring a fruit shop with me.

i wake up ravenous every day and usually go to bed hungry too - ive tried to combat this by eating 1-2 avos a day but then im worried i cant have fruit later at night as its a bad mix with the fats. (does anyone have any good referenced material on the dont mix fats with fruit theory?)

i also never experiened the amounts of energy everyone seems to get on raw - im constantly tired and lethargic, and my skin is crap..im hoping this huge appetite might be something that is in the beginning and after a month or so could go away?

anyone have any ideas or want to analyse my diet?

thanks so much guys,



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3 july:

- woke up hungry
- 9am: 2 glasses fresh apple juice
- 9:45 – 3 cups green smoothie: bunch parsely, 2 bananas
- 1200 – 1 persimon
- 12:45 juice: 4 carrots, ginger, half bunch celery
- walnuts
- green smoothie #2: 4 big leaves kale, one buch mint, 4 bananas
- celery with peanut butter
- 2 pieces raw chocolate
- 5pm: green smoothie #3: kale, 3 bananas
- small raw food bar
- 2 org kiwi
- SALAD: ONE HUGE butter lettuce
- 2 handfuls nuts seeds etc
- 9pm: still hungry, 2 bananas
- went to bed hungry

july 6:

- woke up hungry
- 8am: green smoothie: 3 bunch spinach, 2 banana, 1 pear,
- 4 dates
- 2 small apples
- 20 grapes
- 2 small persimmon
- 1pm: lunch – greens and one avocado
- 2pm: lara bar
- 2:30 still hungry: nuts and seeds
- 2 handfuls almonds
- still hungry
- suinflower seeds and cacao beans
- 6pm: one cup chia gell
- 6:30 dinner: 1 zuccini, mixed greens, one avocado, some leek
- went to bed hungry



july 8:

- woke up hungry
- slippery elm
- 9: 30 1 green melon
- 10:45: cup of soaked goji berries + water
- 2 oranges
- 1 persimon
- 11:30: coconut water, meat and 5 strawberries
- 2 banana before lunch
- lunch 1pm: half lettuce, half cauliflower, one avo, one zuccini
- 2:30: 4 dates, raisins and goji berries in agave
- 3:15: 2 bananas and 3 strawberries
- 3:50 1 banana
- 5:30: one avo and one carrot
- yoga clas
- 8pm: one raw food bar, one banana, 6 dates, some more avo with 2 carrot
- 3 big handfuls sultanas



any help would be amazing - what do you guys eat day to day?

[spicyfull]

I'm not seeing any Water, I know Water is in RAW food but you also need Water alone. YOU ARE STILL IN DETOX, that is why your Energy is Still Low. RAW is like regular eating in the sence that you have to eat Food that will Stay with you and Fill your Belly. Foods like Grains, Nuts mixed with Grains, Nuts and Fat in your Salads.

Are you just Snacking all day or eating Meals? I suggest eating Meals. I have discovered that when you need Water, it can manifest itself as HUNGER......

[Dimond]

Your food looks really good for someone who has been raw for months or years, but not as good for a beginner for most people. The best way to succeed on raw is to eat much heavier meals. For example your smoothie of 3 cups, double the size and add much more ingredients. Adding fats to it, like avocado will make it heavier, if just making it bigger isn't enough. Using food powders like hemp and greens can also help. Or even adding the nut butter or coconut meat to the smoothies. Later you can cut back on foods as your body gets use to eating raw.

One can eat the way you are and eventually get use to it, because it's a pretty good diet. However, it's very rare that it will work because either they're too hungry, have too many side effects or just find it's too restrictive.

[klomasius]

Your food looks really good for someone who has been raw for months or years, but not as good for a beginner for most people. The best way to succeed on raw is to eat much heavier meals. For example your smoothie of 3 cups, double the size and add much more ingredients. Adding fats to it, like avocado will make it heavier, if just making it bigger isn't enough. Using food powders like hemp and greens can also help. Or even adding the nut butter or coconut meat to the smoothies. Later you can cut back on foods as your body gets use to eating raw.

One can eat the way you are and eventually get use to it, because it's a pretty good diet. However, it's very rare that it will work because either they're too hungry, have too many side effects or just find it's too restrictive.

What Dimond said. I ate a fair amount of dehydrated heavier foods when I first started. I found that flax crackers with avocado smeared over them and other toppings was my quick "empty filler".

Now I'm happy with the sort of eating you documented, but it probably wouldn't have satisfied me at the start.

Hope you work it all out! :D

[RawKnitster]

I have to second the advice you have already gotten. Hunger can often be mistaken for thirst.

I can't eat that frequently because I feel like I'm putting food on top of partially digested food which in my opinion is not good for digestion, and is a drag on my energy level. I allow 30 minutes after eating fruit, 60 minutes for dense fruits (bananas and dried fruits), and 3 hours after meals. Then I drink a pint of water and wait at least another 30 minutes before eating again.

Sometimes waiting 3 hours after a meal is a challenge. That hungry feeling comes back even though I know I can't possibly be hungry so soon after eating such a large meal. In my case I don't believe that feeling is truly hunger. I make a cup of tea that is a digestive aid, like ginger or chamomile and sip on that. It gets me past that hungry feeling.

I think your doing amazing.

[Mikey_H]

im 21, like 52 kilos, do no exercise, but i eat hourly, and seem to eat about double of what everyone else eats!


Hello,
From the looks of it you get plenty of good nutrition if you eat so much fruit, veggies and good fats.
I wouldn't worry too much about what you are eating, as you are the expert of your own routine and over time you will find your specifics. I believe everybody's ideal diet is different.

I don't know of your circumstances but I just wanted to refer to the exercise issue. Exercise is an extremely, extremely important part of thriving on any healthy eating regime. Just doing some decent cardiovascular exercise (running, swimming, biking, hiking, anything that gets ya' sweating!) a few times each week will show DRASTIC results for the good...
If you literally do no exercise like the post implies I would extremely recommend you try getting some blood pumping. The more you exercise, the more blood gets pumped through your body, delivering nutrients more efficiently, speeding up digestion, delivering nutrients to the skin, much much more energy, and the list goes on and on. In fact, the list goes into every single thing that could be good in regards to personal well being.

It's just my suggestion, but I'm sure many would agree! Exercise is vital, regardless of age.
It's possible this is what your body feels is the last missing part, catalyst you could say, to making that raw food you eat work it's BEST!

[Veganforlife]

water...............

[back2healthy]

I have only been raw for 2 weeks now and prior to that a somewhat modified vegetarian... nothing on 4 legs for 25 years and lots of fruits and veggies. So, this came easy to me i guess.

I am finding myself to be full these days! But, I'm also drinking alot of water to keep the system flushed and I'm enjoying my smoothies... I'm sipping on a banana, fresh pineapple and strawberry with almond milk smoothie right now while I check in here and cruise this site. Maybe eat or sip more slowly and add water to your day. Your daily intake looks like ALOT of food. Tapeworm?:)

I.E., yesterday, I had a smoothie for bfast with flax oil, a nectarine for a mid am snack. A green juice of Kale, spinach. lemon, tomato and carrot for lunch, a pure bar and apple mid day snack and a great salad of spinach, salsa, cukes, avocados, tomatos and cashews for dinner. Stuffed. And I'm not a tiny person. I was grazing on nuts throughout the day, but am trying to cut back for calorie reasons.

Try adding a big glass of water with each meal and see how that goes.

[flea]

hey guys! thankyou so much for all of your support and advice :)

- i do drink water i just didnt add it to my food chart cos its a given - i drink water and i think enough, and theres also heaps of water in the raw diet anyway - but i will try drinking more water :)

- i tried doubling the ingrediants in my gs this morning and it DID make a difference, so thankyou for that!

- exercise: i think you guys are right - and i did exercise yesterday after reading that post which was great, but i just find it so hard - cos i wake up starving so need to eat, then im just eating all day so its hard to find a time in the day to exercise when i wont be exercising while hungry or exercising while i have heaps of food in my stomach

- do you think i could STILL be in detox after 2-3 months 100% raw?

- some people suggest i eat more fruit, others more fat..but i am glad to know that some of you think my diet is ok - also really glad that some of u think u ate mroe than i did when u first started! makes me feel a bit more normal..ill add more avos and try to do MEALS and see how i go..
id love flax crackers and dehydrated snacks but theyre too exxy and i cant afford a dehydrator either...haha.

- im going to a conference all of next week - what do you guys do when u have to plan food for a whole day?

ps what do you mean by this Dimond?------

One can eat the way you are and eventually get use to it, because it's a pretty good diet. However, it's very rare that it will work because either they're too hungry, have too many side effects or just find it's too restrictive.

thanks guys!

[rawstrength]

I think you might have an absorption issue. Keep doing a lot of juice and blended foods, and eat some cultured food like kimchi, saur kraut, kombucha, or water kefir and take pro-biotics. You need to establish good gut flora.

What's the point of eating all that food if you're not digesting and absorbing it?

[flea]

hey rawstrength,

my friend went from vegan-raw, and she was eating HUGE quantaties and all the time, lots of fats and sugars, and just kept losing heaps of weight, she also thought she had an absorbtion issue - then she did banana island for a week (30 bananas during the day and greens at night) and it changed - she started absorbing all her food and now eats normally.

i wonder if im in the same boat and need to do the banana thing? or perhaps ive got a fast metabolism and am just eating a lot? maybe its to do with the fact that im still relatively new (3 monthsish 100%) to raw?

interestingly enough, i was hanging out with a woman last week who has been raw for about 13 years and (compared to me) she eats NOTHING! tiny bowl raw granola for breakfast, tiny tiny salad for lunch, handful of nuts, tiny tiny (i.e. desert bowl size) salad for dinner - she claimed the longer youve been raw the better your body knows how to cope on smaller amounts of food.