is whole bread bad for your health???

[raw runner]

my mom doesn't understand why raw food eaters don't appreciate whole bread...she understands why it is cooked so it is the opposite of the raw food philisophy but she doesn't get it that the starches are bad for the body so if someone has a better explnation,much simplier,i 'll go with it
thanks

[iwuvmydoggy]

here you go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbJuDC13OGk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrTRCO3hPi0

[raw runner]

thanks a lot

[iwuvmydoggy]

welcome! :D

[kat4]

That was interesting, thanks for the links.
It's always good to have all the facts to present to people who quiz you about why you eat certain things and not others :)

[SekhemNefer]

here you go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbJuDC13OGk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrTRCO3hPi0


I looked at those videos, that is just not bread but most foods. Even vegetables and fruit. One can justify that many things is bad for you. Look at people on this board who justify that even some vegetables and fruits whether GMO or not, is bad for you.

Most foods are genetically engineered. It is hard to avoid without you going way out your way to buy something that is not. I mean, I try to buy organic the best way I can, but I know that many fruits and vegetables I want to eat are not non-GMO. If I was to avoid GMOs all the time, I would basically have very few things to eat.

Things about so called raw, vegan or vegetarian experts...even with carnivores, too....if you hate something you can always find someone to claim that something good is bad for you. Or that something is bad is good for you. There is always going to be somebody complaining about something and you got people to jump on the bandwagon to start hating something, or supporting something. Like the people who say they will never eat watermelon, because they no longer have seeds. Or nightshades such as tomatos and bell pepper is a big evil sin.



But I digress....do whatever. It is your life.

[Aleesha Sattva]

bread is not raw... therefore not part of a raw foodists diet. let's all remember that please. ;)

[cherry_lo]

what happened to not everyone being 100 %

[Aleesha Sattva]

This board is here to assist people to follow Alissa's lifestyle plan. If someone does not wish to follow it, perhaps this isn't the place for them.

Please read Alissa's mission statement:

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=18


This is a raw food board for asking and receiving questions and answers in regards to going and staying raw. This board is for the support of the raw food lifestyle, getting and giving advice and connecting with other people who are STRIVING TO GO AND BE RAW VEGAN according to the principles in Alissa Cohen's book Living on Live Food. It is not for debating whether this diet is good or bad or for posting questions that try to debunk the raw food diet. This does not mean that people cannot ask questions and seek answers but just as a raw fooder or someone believing in the raw food diet would not go to a meat board, a macrobiotic or an Atkins board and start debating those fellow board members beliefs, questioning their approach to their personal diets and interrupting and disrupting there place of support, so is this not appropriate on this board. This board is for people wanting support and connection.

There is enough fear and mistruth and debating about diet going on in all of the places outside of this Internet circle. This is not the place for that. It is a place to come and share your same interest in the vegan raw food diet, get support and feel connected. If you need information that you feel you are not finding here or are looking for opposing views about this diet and want to discuss these view, this is not the place to do that. Search the net and you can find all you want. You are welcome to ask questions and have different opinions but please be mindful and respectful that this is a raw food board whose members are raw, striving to be raw and/or are searching for vegan raw food information.

[LilacLavender]

I think the OP wants to follow the lifestyle; she just needs some help to convince someone else why cooked bread is bad. I am interested in the answers, too. It is always to learn more facts that back up our lifestyle choices--this is important for making informed decisions.

[Aleesha Sattva]

lilac, my reminder was to the people who's posts i had to delete :) i've left this thread because i agree the OP is asking for assistance and i would like them to get some. :D

[gabriele]

I really am curious to see what Alissa says about not being 100%. I'm only on page 55!! (just got the book today). From what i've read so far, she's pretty much talking about being 100%, but very curious what she says about that...

meaning, is this website also for those who do not follow 100%??

[Aleesha Sattva]

following the link i gave above:


You do not have to be 100% raw or even 50% raw, but you do need to be supportive of this lifestyle and striving towards or interested in this raw vegan diet. If you are having doubts or thinking that this is not for you that is fine but then this may not be the place for you. Just like a meat eaters board or a macrobiotic board would not be the place for a raw fooder who is just interested in forcing their thoughts upon those people. These people on this board are here for support, motivation and connection in connection with Alissa Cohen's book and DVDs Living on Live Food.
I would appreciate it if everyone would abide by this post.

Thank you,
Alissa

[kidkid]

hmmm...I'm not a nutritionist or a scientist, but I have thought about bread a bit. If you want to describe why bread might not be the best (even whole grain bread), maybe you could use some of the broader raw food arguments -- stuff like "when the food is heated, it's no longer in its natural state, the enzymes have broken down, nutrients have been lost, bread is dead," etc. etc.

[iwuvmydoggy]

I looked at those videos, that is just not bread but most foods. Even vegetables and fruit. One can justify that many things is bad for you. Look at people on this board who justify that even some vegetables and fruits whether GMO or not, is bad for you.

Most foods are genetically engineered. It is hard to avoid without you going way out your way to buy something that is not. I mean, I try to buy organic the best way I can, but I know that many fruits and vegetables I want to eat are not non-GMO. If I was to avoid GMOs all the time, I would basically have very few things to eat.

Things about so called raw, vegan or vegetarian experts...even with carnivores, too....if you hate something you can always find someone to claim that something good is bad for you. Or that something is bad is good for you. There is always going to be somebody complaining about something and you got people to jump on the bandwagon to start hating something, or supporting something. Like the people who say they will never eat watermelon, because they no longer have seeds. Or nightshades such as tomatos and bell pepper is a big evil sin.



But I digress....do whatever. It is your life.

oh, he just asked for reasons to explain why he didn't want to eat bread... so i gave him some. i don't really care if you eat bread or not, it's your body, do what feels right to you. ;)

[LilacLavender]

I would think that a main reason would be that the protein in the grains within the bread is denatured when it is cooked.