Fruits and Veggies that some people question

[donnyandcathy]

I do not want this question to start a debate, or have harsh comments.
I am truly seeking some info. to help me in my walk with eating all raw, and also
to see if some of my symptoms could be caused by certain foods.

I notice when I read certain books, post, or blogs, that some people stay away from certain fruits and veggies, and I'm not sure of all the reasons why.

Could you post some of the veggies and fruits that you know could be a problem, or you stay away from, and the reasons why?

This is not a debate and I'm not going to question why on the reasons you give, I am truly wanting to learn all I can, and to be smart on the foods I choose for my health.

Thank you,
Cathy

[Aleesha Sattva]

I don't eat potatoes. I've read and researched and just can't find a good reason to eat them... so I don't.

[Veronica01]

Potatoes - not much nutritional value and taste aweful raw. The potato plant is toxic. It contains an alkaloid named solanine that appears in all the external parts of the plant. It is also found in the tender buds of the tubers during the germination process. Excessive ingestion of raw potato can produce gastro-intestinal, liver, as well as heart damage. Because it is a vegetable that contains a fair amount of starch, it has emollient properties. It can therefore be used externally to soothe the skin and useful for burns. It also antacid properties to help combat any gastric discomfort. Because of the possible toxicity, it is best to avoid the use of raw potato. I also read they can increase joint and arthritic pain with regular consumption. Check out http://www.fao.org/docrep/T0207E/T0207E08.htm#Potato

Corn - hybridized grain, worst fatty acid profile (Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio) of nearly all grains, can be high in aflatoxin, animals fed strictly corn can develop rickets or (weak bones from calcium deficiency) acidosis. It is one of the top fillers in processed SAD food and animal food, and we know all too well how good SAD food is for you. Watch Food Inc for why corn is bad.

Wheat- highly allergenic, 1 in 5 people are actually severely allergic to it. It's highly hybridized, can cause asthma, inflammation and allergies. Prone to aflatoxin as well. Read Grain Damage by Dr. Doug Graham

Soy- GMO, hybridized, contains 5 times the amount of estrogen as a single birth control pill. Can lead to early puberty in children and cause problems with reproductive organ cancers. Check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdFVnJQJCRI&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Frawmodelcom%2Eblogspot%2Ecom%2F&feature=player_embedded

Beans/Lentils - obviously canned isn't in our diet anyways, but even raw sprouted I find they don't taste very good. Again aflatoxin can be common in them.

Peanuts - high in aflatoxin raw and cooked, you can find some that are "safe" to eat, but it's very expensive and almost seems like we weren't meant to eat it if it's so expensive to grow without this natural toxin on it. Read The China Study by T Collin Campbell.

Shitaake mushrooms: Determination of naturally-occurring formaldehyde in raw and cooked Shiitake mushrooms. Allergy and toxicodermia from shiitake mushrooms http://rawveg.info/rawfoodtoxins.html

Alfalfa sprouts
Contain canavanine, an amino acid that can worsen lupus. Large enough amounts could, in theory, create problems with immune function. http://rawveg.info/rawfoodtoxins.html

Notice most of these items are common in the american diet and highly processed and manufactured. If we were eating naturally it's very doubtful we'd be craving, wheat, corn, potatoes and soy. I don't consider those regular in my diet anyways and there are much more nutritional foods to choose from that don't support the destruction of forests to make way for huge crops for cattle feed and processed foods.

[Gaius]

Any member of the nightshade family is toxic to the human body and will cause some really bad skin conditions in about 5% of the population. Tomatoes, potatoes, etc.

[Revvell]

Mushrooms ~ taste like dirt.

Potatoes ~ same reason as Aleesha. No reason to eat them.

Corn, soy, canola, ~ GMO'd.

[cherry_lo]

chick peas don't count right?
Are alfafa sprouts the same as that asian thing that has a seed at the end of it but looks like noodles?

[Gaius]

Mushrooms are just plain disgusting. I don't know what anybody would eat them. Even as a SAD eater, I couldn't even bear the smell of them.

[cherry_lo]

I love rash mushrooms in my salad
not the shiitake ones but mushrooms still

[T-Bird]

I have questioned many fruits and veggies....

:(:(Sadly, none have answered.....:(:(


Maybe if they weren't brutally yanked off their stems, they'd be a bit more communicative.

[Thick]

also some fruits are irradiated if coming from another country.

[fruitandveggies]

Are alfafa sprouts the same as that asian thing that has a seed at the end of it but looks like noodles?

Those are mung bean sprouts. YUM.

[cherry_lo]

pheewwww!!

[Revvell]

Mushrooms are just plain disgusting. I don't know what anybody would eat them. Even as a SAD eater, I couldn't even bear the smell of them.

Well, there's one thing we agree on. LMAO!

[Revvell]

I have questioned many fruits and veggies....

:(:(Sadly, none have answered.....:(


Maybe if they weren't brutally yanked off their stems, they'd be a bit more communicative.

You just need to pet them some. They're actually very responsive. ;)

[RawYorkCity]

Fruits & veges I have problems with:

Nightshades (e.g. tomatoes, peppers): They cause all kinds of skin problems.
Zucchini: Really difficult to digest and gas forming.
Anything fermented (e.g. kimchi): Same as above.
Mushrooms: Same as above, and they aren't appetizing by themselves.

Most of these foods don't have very many calories, so it shouldn't be too much of an issue anyway.

[donnyandcathy]

Thank ya'll so much for the info. and I agree with the foods you listed.

Some of the fruits I was questioning was....
Pineapple
Mango
Bananas
Cherries
Seedless Watermelon

Not that I want to question them, but have seen comments on blogs, or books about not eating them.'

Any input on fruits?

Thanks gals and guys ;)

Cathy

[Aleesha Sattva]

I looooooooove mushrooms (b12) and tomatoes (so good for the skin) and i do love corn as well (folic acid)... mmmmmmmmm So I'll happily eat the ones you all leave behind.

Oh and T-Bird... although Rev pets her's... I find that holding them underwater for a bit tends to make them bend to my will *menacing laughter fading in the distance*

[katchmoleen]

Oh my goodness, I LOVE mushrooms. They help me stay raw because they are meaty and savory and soooooooo good!:p

[Veronica01]

The only one i question out of those is seedless watermelon.

People have Genetically modified plants to have no seeds. To the plant it is natural to pass on seeds especially if it is healthy. A seedless plant cannot reproduce obviously. However they aren't hybridizing the plants to naturally not have seeds, they're genetically altering them in some way that the plant knows it shouldn't create seeds because something is not right and it never produces seeds to prevent reproduction.

Nature is very smart and stops working properly when genetically altered. I find it almost impossible to find seeded watermelons nowadays. Growing up almost every store had both and now I can't find them. So i don't know how nutritious a GMO's watermelon would be if the plant doesn't want to reproduce because it thinks it's unfit to do so.

I have not had any problems eating large amounts of mangoes and bananas weekly. Sometimes i go through phases where i dont want to eat them for a week and i go to berries and melons.

Pineapple i eat once in a while just because i don't crave it, cherries i eat in season by the bowl.

[Revvell]

I looooooooove mushrooms (b12) and tomatoes (so good for the skin) and i do love corn as well (folic acid)... mmmmmmmmm So I'll happily eat the ones you all leave behind.

Corn is one of the four gmo'd, unless, of course, you get organic and even that, currently is questionable. You can have my "dirt" anytime. ;)


Oh and T-Bird... although Rev pets her's... I find that holding them underwater for a bit tends to make them bend to my will *menacing laughter fading in the distance*

Yeah, I knew there was a sadistic streak there somewhere.

[T-Bird]

I'll be here all week, tip your waitress....
:D
But seriously....

I don't eat seedless watermelon, that is some funky genetic shenanigans there..

However - I've read that seedless grapes was a natural varient - and subsequently propagated by cuttings....so I eat those...

[katchmoleen]

Former plant geneticist here, I was just reading an article about how they make seedless watermelons. Plants have an even number of sets of DNA but seedless watermelons are triploid, meaning they have three sets. They are unable to reproduce, obviously. The way they get the seed to become triploid can vary.
Some methods are using heat, shock (didn't say how they shocked seeds...pictures of Joan Rivers, or what) but the most reliable way is to use the chemical colchicine. Colchicine is a medicine used to treat Rheumatoid Arthritis and other autoimmune disorders, but it also causes genetic mutations in plants. They treat the seeds and cause them to become triploid. Of course they have to treat every batch of seeds because the plant doesn't reproduce. They interplant them with normal watermelons so that they can be pollinated in the normal way. So, basically we are eating fruit grown from a seed treated with a substance that causes genetic mutations. :eek: The amount of colchicine that ends up in the fruit is probably microscopic to non existant BUT it may also cause genetic mutations that cause variability in other parts of the plant. I swear I can taste the difference.
There are other varieties of watermelon that are CALLED seedless but have been bred to reduce the seed coat so that it is very thin and therefore edible. Those are the ones that have the thin white seeds throughout. But I don't know how to tell those from the genetically altered ones which might also have little non-viable seeds.:confused:
So that is your science lesson for today if anyone was interested.

[Rufassa]

Some of the fruits I was questioning was....
...
...
Seedless Watermelon

I WILL NOT touch an infertile food.

[Veronica01]

Thanks for that detail. I knew it was something to that effect, but didn't quite remember how they did it. It is definitely better to know where your food comes from than be oblivious and suffer the consequences later.

[donnyandcathy]

That is very interesting.

It seems like the days I eat more veggies, I have more problems with constipation, bloating, not feeling good, low energy, etc..

But when I eat fruit, green smoothies, and simple salads, I do better.

I just worry about getting all the nutrients in, and leaving out the foods that may help get other vitamins, minerals, and nutrients in my diet.

I also dread the winter when all this fruit will be hard to find, and a lot more expensive :(

Thanks and everyone keep sending their thoughts and ideas :D

Cathy

[Revvell]

But I don't know how to tell those from the genetically altered ones which might also have little non-viable seeds.:confused:
So that is your science lesson for today if anyone was interested.

According to one source, there are only 4 genetically modified foods and they are soy, corn, canola and ummmm, yeah, o.k., but it wasn't watermelon. However true that is is anybody's guess.

[Veronica01]

Cathy are you combining fruits or fats with vegetables? Most veggies are starch and are hard to digest with other foods. Fruits and greens can be assimilated at the same time together with no problems. I find the more i eat like that the easier it is to eat things like broccoli or cauliflower once in a while without digestion problems or bloating.

Also i don't think there's many vitamins in vegetables that you can't get from fruits and greens. Nor have i ever ravenously craved a carrot or a zuchinni. I have craved romaine, or spinach or fruit. So i wouldn't fret about not eating veggies every day. What animal does?

[sport]

I am another mushroom enemy. I did not understand why until one day when I read that their DNA is nearer to animal than veg. Then my dislike fell in to place.

[SekhemNefer]

Potatoes - not much nutritional value and taste aweful raw. The potato plant is toxic. It contains an alkaloid named solanine that appears in all the external parts of the plant. It is also found in the tender buds of the tubers during the germination process. Excessive ingestion of raw potato can produce gastro-intestinal, liver, as well as heart damage. Because it is a vegetable that contains a fair amount of starch, it has emollient properties. It can therefore be used externally to soothe the skin and useful for burns. It also antacid properties to help combat any gastric discomfort. Because of the possible toxicity, it is best to avoid the use of raw potato. I also read they can increase joint and arthritic pain with regular consumption. Check out http://www.fao.org/docrep/T0207E/T0207E08.htm#Potato

Corn - hybridized grain, worst fatty acid profile (Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio) of nearly all grains, can be high in aflatoxin, animals fed strictly corn can develop rickets or (weak bones from calcium deficiency) acidosis. It is one of the top fillers in processed SAD food and animal food, and we know all too well how good SAD food is for you. Watch Food Inc for why corn is bad.

Wheat- highly allergenic, 1 in 5 people are actually severely allergic to it. It's highly hybridized, can cause asthma, inflammation and allergies. Prone to aflatoxin as well. Read Grain Damage by Dr. Doug Graham

Soy- GMO, hybridized, contains 5 times the amount of estrogen as a single birth control pill. Can lead to early puberty in children and cause problems with reproductive organ cancers. Check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdFVnJQJCRI&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Frawmodelcom%2Eblogspot%2Ecom%2F&feature=player_embedded

Beans/Lentils - obviously canned isn't in our diet anyways, but even raw sprouted I find they don't taste very good. Again aflatoxin can be common in them.

Peanuts - high in aflatoxin raw and cooked, you can find some that are "safe" to eat, but it's very expensive and almost seems like we weren't meant to eat it if it's so expensive to grow without this natural toxin on it. Read The China Study by T Collin Campbell.

Shitaake mushrooms: Determination of naturally-occurring formaldehyde in raw and cooked Shiitake mushrooms. Allergy and toxicodermia from shiitake mushrooms http://rawveg.info/rawfoodtoxins.html

Alfalfa sprouts
Contain canavanine, an amino acid that can worsen lupus. Large enough amounts could, in theory, create problems with immune function. http://rawveg.info/rawfoodtoxins.html

Notice most of these items are common in the american diet and highly processed and manufactured. If we were eating naturally it's very doubtful we'd be craving, wheat, corn, potatoes and soy. I don't consider those regular in my diet anyways and there are much more nutritional foods to choose from that don't support the destruction of forests to make way for huge crops for cattle feed and processed foods.


I love all of those things! Damn....except raw potatos. However, I am keeping them in my diet. I can't live without corn. My ancestors were raised on corn...Native Ameicans.

I love me some raw mushrooms, too. They replace my need to have meat.

[Veronica01]

Do you have an article or anything about that? My family does eat mushrooms, so i'd like to have more info on them, other than "i don't eat fungus" like a lot of people say.

[SekhemNefer]

chick peas don't count right?
Are alfafa sprouts the same as that asian thing that has a seed at the end of it but looks like noodles?

They say chickpeas are toxic raw, but I eat them with no problem. But to be honest, I don't have them all the time though. So toxicity isn't a problem for me.

[Veronica01]

I can't live without corn. My ancestors were raised on corn...Native Ameicans.

I'm native as well, so i'm sure it was a big part of my ancestors diet... However I have a bad liver to thank for the choices that my birth fathers heritage passed down to me as well lol. I'd rather eat things that taste good and are beneficial. Honestly corn has no nutritional value and it's very addicting, your body will be missing out on a lot of nutrients if it's something that's a staple to your weekly diet.

[SekhemNefer]

I am another mushroom enemy. I did not understand why until one day when I read that their DNA is nearer to animal than veg. Then my dislike fell in to place.

There is little difference between plant and animal life in many so called vegetations. Plants, animals, humans and other life forms....we are all distant relatives to each other.

Humans have animal cousins. Animals have plant cousins. Plants have amebae cousins. Even those have micororganism cousins. One species blends in into another according to biology and the evolutionary scale.


Hell, unless you are fruitarian that eats only food fallen from a tree....you can kill plant life just as bad as you kill animal life. I am sure plants ain't happy that you are eating them as much as an animal would. I know a head of lettuce screams unheard pain noises by humans when you pull it out of the ground for food. And wheat grass cries when you pull them out the dirt to make wheat grass juice. Poor tomato is stabbed to death when you jullienne it to make a salad.

A life is a life....and tasty too.

[Raw Angel Mom]

I looooooooove mushrooms (b12) and tomatoes (so good for the skin) and i do love corn as well (folic acid)... mmmmmmmmm So I'll happily eat the ones you all leave behind.

Oh and T-Bird... although Rev pets her's... I find that holding them underwater for a bit tends to make them bend to my will *menacing laughter fading in the distance*

Same here ,lol...... I guess it comes to listen to our body, what it naturally doesn't like we shouldn't consider to eat that, perhaps give a try but if your body still repulse it, then nop. I cannot handle any sprouted beans, i don't like alfafa sprout but eat most of sprouts. Some people don't do good with fruits and i don't do well without them.

You will find the right food for you, just keep trying different kind. Sometime you may not care for certain food and all of sudden, you will crave for them. I did care about mushroom now, i want them, lol... go figure.

[EZ rider]

I frequently eat Shiitake mushrooms ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiitake ) and have experienced no problems or adverse effects eating them. I average about 4 a day. They provide "substance" in what is otherwise a high water content food diet.

[dread head vegan]

i really don't eat mushrooms really don't like them.. never have

i love pineapples but to acidic for my body so i don't eat them

kiwi i am alergic for some reason i love them though but don't eat them

[sherilynn]

Any member of the nightshade family is toxic to the human body and will cause some really bad skin conditions in about 5% of the population. Tomatoes, potatoes, etc.


Tomatoes!!! I didn't know that. Love tomatoes have a lot of tomato plants in my garden this year :(

I also have a lot of skin issues

[RaeVynn]

We love mushrooms... mostly white button, and portabella, but will try others... I love to marinade them and dehydrate for awhile.
I won't eat raw potatoes... but have discovered Alissa's sweet potato chips! Yummy!
Let's see... I haven't tried raw green beans yet.
I will only eat RIPE fruit...
I try to stay away from GMO anything, too...
The hummus made with sprouted chickpeas... no, didn't care for that. The chickpeas seem a bit bitter, and create HORRIBLE gas. So, I make cashew, or zucchini, or green hummus.
No, I can't think of any fruit/veggie that I really avoid, other than potatoes. I'm staying away from most grains.

[katchmoleen]

I got my info on seedless watermelon straight from an article for producers on how to grow seedless watermelon. There are several definitions of "genetically modified." If by GM, they mean the DNA of another species is actually inserted into the DNA of the plant (usually by means of e.coli bacteria or modified viruses) then the list of yours would include wheat, as in "Round up Ready Wheat" which has been genetically modified with a gene that makes the farmer able to spray it with Roundup, which kills weeds but used to also kill the wheat. Guess who makes Roundup? Monsanto. This caused the whole can of worms where they want to go into farmer's fields and test for the presence of roundup ready wheat. Because it is patent protected, they then want to be able to confiscate the whole crop, even if the wheat got there by the natural process of pollination. This has actually happened and there was recently a huge court case about it, probably discussed on this board. I believe the local farmer prevailed in this case, yay.

[donnyandcathy]

Oh my, you won't believe this, but I was giving my daughter my left overs from yesterday, which consisted of Portabella Mushrooms that had been marinated. Our little Yorkie which LOVES raw veggies and fruits, was standing there and some of the mushroom fell to the floor, she went over to it, but would not eat it. My daughter picked her up, and offered her another bigger piece of mushroom, she still would not eat it and even turned her head.
My daughter and I were just on here reading all of your replays, so we thought it was very interesting. We took out a piece of zucchini that had been marinated in the same stuff, and she ate it right up!!! The mushroom and the zucchini smelled the same, so I don't think she was smelling the "mushroom smell" She just refused to eat a fungus ;)
We thought it was very interesting, and maybe we should listen to our dog :D

Cathy

[iluvmangos]

Not to be gross, but I get yeast infections every time I eat corn or mushrooms, so those foods are gonners for me no matter how much I love them.

[eatyourbroccoli]

Thank ya'll so much for the info. and I agree with the foods you listed.

Some of the fruits I was questioning was....
Pineapple
Mango
Bananas
Cherries
Seedless Watermelon

Not that I want to question them, but have seen comments on blogs, or books about not eating them.'

Any input on fruits?

Thanks gals and guys ;)

Cathy


i stay away from seedless watermelon, and always pout (cutely ...maybe :p ) to my boyfriend for a few seconds when i can't find seeded ones at the grocery store (and i never can..gotta go to farmer's markets for that). i eat bananas..but there was a time when i didn't because bananas in their natural form aren't actually edible, but now i just listen to my body. as for pineapple, mango, and cherries..i eat pineapple and love it, but there was once a time when it would burn my mouth so terribly. mango and cherries i don't eat simply because they're too high sugar for me..i love the bitter and pungent, but sweet? blech. used to be totally opposite though!

some people avoid this or that because they follow specific types of raw food diets. some people cut out fruit and focus on fats/greens..some cut out fat and focus on fruits. but imho..i've tried both of those, and i never thrived on either. the only thing that has worked for me is (and i'm being completely honest here) alissa's approach..i eat whatever raw food i'm craving..intuitive eating i guess.

that said, besides mangos and cherries (which are personally too sweet for me) i always rarely find myself (if ever at all) eating:

nightshades
potatoes
sprouted grains
cashews
peanuts
brazil nuts
kimchi or miso

but there's no specific reason why i avoid them, it's just that i don't crave them.

i guess the moral of my long-winded post is, again imho, test things out, see how your body responds, see how your tongue responds, and eat what you like and makes you feel good, and avoid what you dislike and makes you feel crappy.

every body's different and beautifully so

[Aleesha Sattva]

They say chickpeas are toxic raw, but I eat them with no problem. But to be honest, I don't have them all the time though. So toxicity isn't a problem for me.

i think that's a huge key... at least in my world. i eat about 4-6 cobs of corn a year (i live in the corn capital of bc) and it's one of those pleasures i'm not going to give up. of course, i eat it raw. always have eaten raw corn... never did like it cooked even before i was raw.


Tomatoes!!! I didn't know that. Love tomatoes have a lot of tomato plants in my garden this year :(

I also have a lot of skin issues

i'm so surprised by this cause i have amazing skin and i juiced tomatoes every single day for a year... that was dinner. if i was eating... i was eating them sliced.

but... ever since i got pregnant... i haven't been able to eat them. ;)

[donnyandcathy]

Another food that really bothers me is Garlic, it gives me a burning acid feeling, and bloats me really big. I'm not sure if that is a good thing and I should just keep eating it, or if it's telling me that I do not digest it well??
I don't like how it makes me feel. I wonder if it's because I combine it with something that it doesn't combine well with? Like when I make the zucchini hummus, it makes me feel really bad when I add the garlic?? And I don't use any chick-peas in my hummus.

Oh well,
Cathy

[Aleesha Sattva]

i can't eat garlic or onions now that i'm raw. i get sooooooooooooo bloated it's painful!

[margoss]

tomatoes...I get breakouts when I eat a lot of them too. I started eating yellow or orange ones. Less acid & taste real good. I love pineapple & read that it's good for the skin too. Just rub a little juice on before showering. No mushrooms here...do not like the texture. Love fresh corn on the cob. Will keep it to one ear a week. It's so good raw, I could eat several ears at one sitting but don't. I'm not into the kale-chard things like that. I like spinach, cabbage & make a vinegar slaw. Cukes are a fav of mine.

[dread head vegan]

i forgot to mention srouted beans and grains all of them make me sick... but i can eat mung bean sprouts with no problem

[iwuvmydoggy]

chick peas don't count right?
Are alfafa sprouts the same as that asian thing that has a seed at the end of it but looks like noodles?

alfalfa sprouts are the little green ones:

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt213/patriotcz/alfalfa.jpg

mung bean sprouts are the ones you are talking about. :)

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt213/patriotcz/mung_hand.jpg



and speaking of chick peas... i miss falafels. :/ wonder if anyone has a raw falafel recipe.

[iwuvmydoggy]

Another food that really bothers me is Garlic, it gives me a burning acid feeling, and bloats me really big. I'm not sure if that is a good thing and I should just keep eating it, or if it's telling me that I do not digest it well??
I don't like how it makes me feel. I wonder if it's because I combine it with something that it doesn't combine well with? Like when I make the zucchini hummus, it makes me feel really bad when I add the garlic?? And I don't use any chick-peas in my hummus.

Oh well,
Cathy

aww that's too bad! i'll take your extra garlic! (seriously, i will! i'll plant it XD) LOL i can eat them like SAD people do potato or dorito chips or mcdonald's french fries.. one time i even ate a whole bulb of elephant garlic raw... lol but um.. that was very detrimental, shall we say, to my social life for about a week... my own mother wouldn't even give me a hug, because she said i smelled like a garlic factory. lol but i DO loves my garlic!

i also have tons of tomatoes (over 100 varieties of heirloom tomatoes), i eat corn, mushrooms, sprouts (mainly mung beans, though).. i also eat peanuts (never really liked them, but eh. lol.. i also eat bananas, mangoes, cherries, peppers, onions, and i have around 6 kinds of kimchi in my fridge at all times... i just learned how to make my favorite kind of kimchi out of spicy peppers, too.. lol

i guess i am weird... i do love carrots... and greens- especially kale, cabbage and spinach.. oooh, and mustard greens! ESPECIALLY in the form of kimchi! i love radishes and radish greens- also love them in kimchi. i love eggplants and zucchini.. all kinds of squash... and i even like raw sweet potatoes... i also enjoy pinapple, kiwi, and stuff.. i don't really like avocados.. never really have... i only eat them, because they are supposedly good for me. i don't like cucumbers that much, either, that's why i cover them with spices and make them into kimchi... which i only like a little bit... but i eat cucumbers because they are supposedly good for me, too. now cashews on the other hand... i could eat those coming straight out, as my dad would say. lol i love me some cashews! cashews, almonds, pecans, walnuts and i like macadamia nuts (haven't had them in a long time, though).. i love all kinds of mushrooms, too.. my favorite kind are enokitake mushrooms...

i guess i am loaded with garbage... but you know, at least i am one step further away from SAD.

[snoops]

i miss falafels. :/ wonder if anyone has a raw falafel recipe.

Alissa's book has a falafel recipe. I tried it. It was good.

[iwuvmydoggy]

Alissa's book has a falafel recipe. I tried it. It was good.

just good? i want AWESOME. lol

i'd also like to mention, since i've seen this on here (the forum) several times... people say that they have never heard of anyone ever craving greens, carrots or fermented foods or stuff like that... well.. I DO!

i crave kimchi everyday. i crave carrots on a regular basis as well.. they're one of my favorite things to snack on! i love greens, especially the bitter ones! SO THERE! NOW you finally know someone that craves stuff that is NOT fruit! are you amazed?.. because i am pretty amazing. ;) oh, and i have a problem with a lot of fruit that people seem to like.. i can't stand tomatoes (i eat them anyway, and actually have over 100 varieties of heirlooms that i grow!), cucumbers (i eat them anyway, just prefer them in kimchi form), bell peppers (can't stand them, but i shove them down my throat anyway.. to me they taste like dirt) or avocados (they make me sick and i hate how they taste, but they are "good" for me, so i eat them anyway). those foods don't taste good to me at all. i only eat them because they are "healthy".. i also don't enjoy oranges, apples, bananas or grapes very much, either... but i eat them anyway. i do love lemons and limes, though! i am VERY much a savory person, definitely not a sugar freak. i also really enjoy bitter, tart, extremely spicy and very strong flavored foods (like curry, garlic, onion, raw chili peppers, kimchi, etc.. i've actually made koreans that live in korea choke from my food, because it was too spicy for them! i LOVE spicy and i crave that insatiable heat!!)

also, veronica01- i recall you asking what animal craves greens and stuff everyday... well, i don't know much about animal cravings, but i've yet to see a cow not enjoy her greens... or a horse who didn't like a carrot.. primates eat greens, too.. as to panda bears... bamboo leaves.. koalas eat tons of greens... so there's those. :) -i just thought of all this stuff, so that's why i was sharing. lol so hope that's helpful! :D

[Aleesha Sattva]

not sure who's saying no one craves greens... i've never read that before. most people do crave/desire more and more raw foods as their diet becomes more raw. it's a normal part of being raw.

[iwuvmydoggy]

not sure who's saying no one craves greens... i've never read that before. most people do crave/desire more and more raw foods as their diet becomes more raw. it's a normal part of being raw.

and there's another green lover! lol :) i forgot who said it (i don't really look at names when i read stuff) i have just seen it several times the past few days.. so when i thought of all that stuff, i just wanted to share. lol

[Veronica01]

alfalfa sprouts are the little green ones:

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt213/patriotcz/alfalfa.jpg

mung bean sprouts are the ones you are talking about. :)

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt213/patriotcz/mung_hand.jpg



and speaking of chick peas... i miss falafels. :/ wonder if anyone has a raw falafel recipe.
I've never had a falafel but i thought this would be nice to try because it doesn't have chickpeas!

I found one online from therawchef.com

For the tortilla

3c peeled courgette (zucchini)
3T olive oil
2t lemon juice
Pinch cayenne
1t ground coriander
1/2t salt
1/2c flax meal*

• Blend all ingredients in a high-speed blender until smooth.

• Add flax meal and blend again until smooth.

• Pour mixture onto 2 dehydrator sheets and spread evenly into a circle on each.

• Dehydrate for 8 hours at 105 degrees F, or until able to peel of the sheet.

• Once the dehydrator sheets are removed, return to the dehydrator for 30 – 60 mins, until both sides are dry to the touch but still pliable.

* Flax meal is flax seed that have been ground in a coffee grinder or similar, to produce a fine flour.

For the falafel

1c pumpkin seeds
2T fresh dill, finely chopped
1t ground coriander
2t cumin
8 sun-dried tomato halves, soaked for 1 to 2 hours and then chopped
3T fresh coriander (cilantro)
1 clove garlic
2 shallots
1/4c olives, stones removed
2t oregano
Pinch cayenne
Pinch pepper
1/2t salt
1T lemon juice

• Process all ingredients in a food processor until thoroughly mixed.

• Form into Falafel and dehydrate on a Paraflexx sheet at 105 degrees F for 6 – 8 hours.

For the hummus

1/2c mac nuts
3T lemon juice
3T tahini
1/4t salt
1/4c water

• Blend all ingredients in a high-power blender until smooth.

Optional “roasted” Mediterranean vegetables

1/2c courgette (zucchini), sliced
1 red bell pepper, sliced thin
1/2 a medium red onion, sliced
1/2c fresh tomatoes, sliced
3T olive oil
1T lemon juice
1/4t salt

• Marinate all ingredients for a couple of hours, then place on a dehydrator sheet and dehydrate at 105 degrees F for 1-2 hours, until soft.

[Veronica01]

just good? i want AWESOME. lol



also, veronica01- i recall you asking what animal craves greens and stuff everyday... well, i don't know much about animal cravings, but i've yet to see a cow not enjoy her greens... or a horse who didn't like a carrot.. primates eat greens, too.. as to panda bears... bamboo leaves.. koalas eat tons of greens... so there's those. :) -i just thought of all this stuff, so that's why i was sharing. lol so hope that's helpful! :D

Did I say what animal craves greens?


Also i don't think there's many vitamins in vegetables that you can't get from fruits and greens. Nor have i ever ravenously craved a carrot or a zuchinni. I have craved romaine, or spinach or fruit. So i wouldn't fret about not eating veggies every day. What animal does?

No I didn't think so. Vegetables and greens are totally different. Animals usually eat greens, very few eat vegetables as a staple to their diet.

[sherilynn]

just good? i want AWESOME. lol


also, veronica01- i recall you asking what animal craves greens and stuff everyday... well, i don't know much about animal cravings, but i've yet to see a cow not enjoy her greens... or a horse who didn't like a carrot.. primates eat greens, too.. as to panda bears... bamboo leaves.. koalas eat tons of greens... so there's those. :) -i just thought of all this stuff, so that's why i was sharing. lol so hope that's helpful! :D

I have a hard time keeping my dogs from eating grass :)

All the time the first thing he does when he goes outside is start chomping on grass

[hapahaole]

i crave kimchi everyday.


I love kimchi! Do you make your own? If so do you have a recipe you could share?

Thanks!

[iwuvmydoggy]

I've never had a falafel but i thought this would be nice to try because it doesn't have chickpeas!

I found one online from therawchef.com

For the tortilla

3c peeled courgette (zucchini)
3T olive oil
2t lemon juice
Pinch cayenne
1t ground coriander
1/2t salt
1/2c flax meal*

• Blend all ingredients in a high-speed blender until smooth.

• Add flax meal and blend again until smooth.

• Pour mixture onto 2 dehydrator sheets and spread evenly into a circle on each.

• Dehydrate for 8 hours at 105 degrees F, or until able to peel of the sheet.

• Once the dehydrator sheets are removed, return to the dehydrator for 30 – 60 mins, until both sides are dry to the touch but still pliable.

* Flax meal is flax seed that have been ground in a coffee grinder or similar, to produce a fine flour.

For the falafel

1c pumpkin seeds
2T fresh dill, finely chopped
1t ground coriander
2t cumin
8 sun-dried tomato halves, soaked for 1 to 2 hours and then chopped
3T fresh coriander (cilantro)
1 clove garlic
2 shallots
1/4c olives, stones removed
2t oregano
Pinch cayenne
Pinch pepper
1/2t salt
1T lemon juice

• Process all ingredients in a food processor until thoroughly mixed.

• Form into Falafel and dehydrate on a Paraflexx sheet at 105 degrees F for 6 – 8 hours.

For the hummus

1/2c mac nuts
3T lemon juice
3T tahini
1/4t salt
1/4c water

• Blend all ingredients in a high-power blender until smooth.

Optional “roasted” Mediterranean vegetables

1/2c courgette (zucchini), sliced
1 red bell pepper, sliced thin
1/2 a medium red onion, sliced
1/2c fresh tomatoes, sliced
3T olive oil
1T lemon juice
1/4t salt

• Marinate all ingredients for a couple of hours, then place on a dehydrator sheet and dehydrate at 105 degrees F for 1-2 hours, until soft.

that sounds yummy! thank you! i will have to buy a dehydrator and make those, when i can afford it :)




Did I say what animal craves greens?

No I didn't think so. Vegetables and greens are totally different. Animals usually eat greens, very few eat vegetables as a staple to their diet.

ohhhh, my misunderstanding then. :D sorry! but horses still like veggies. lol my horse got really shiny fur and stuff when i gave him lots of carrots. he actually won best in show that year! (he's dead now, this was back in 99 or 2000)




I have a hard time keeping my dogs from eating grass :0)

All the time the first thing he does when he goes outside is start chomping on grass

animals are SO CUTE!!! lol maybe you can give him some wheatgrass in his water? lol




I love kimchi! Do you make your own? If so do you have a recipe you could share?

Thanks!

yep, i do, and yes, i will! :) i have several kinds i can post for ya. i'll post them a little later, as i'm getting ready to leave for lunch with my mom. (we go almost every tuesday).. :D i'm happy to meet another kimchi lover!

[greenfeline]

I eat many of the foods with "toxins" in them. Conscious Eating has a good explanation of toxins in alfalfa sprouts etc.. basically he said not to worry about it. If it tastes good and it is raw I eat it. I have not noticed any sensitivities to anything. Also many people use fermented foods for the "good bacteria and cultures".

[T-Bird]

but... ever since i got pregnant... i haven't been able to eat them.

oooooooooooooooooooh! Congratulations!

Now - instead of listening to your body - you have to listen to the baby's!

[T-Bird]

and speaking of chick peas... i miss falafels. :/ wonder if anyone has a raw falafel recipe.

The raw food restaurant near me uses pistachios...nor recipe tho!

[iwuvmydoggy]

The raw food restaurant near me uses pistachios...nor recipe tho!

that's a good idea! seems like it'd be a bit strong, though.. just using pistachios.. but thank you for the idea! that's awesome!

[eatyourbroccoli]

i can't eat garlic or onions now that i'm raw. i get sooooooooooooo bloated it's painful!


i wonder..could this have something to do with how intensely detoxing garlic is? and now that we're raw..we're eating it raw instead of cooked, so it actually is detoxing us? i know it's recommended for candida..the bloating/feeling crappy sort of sounds like candida die off to me. :confused:

all i know is i detoxed quiiite a bit last night and this morning after eating some zucchini hummus w 4 garlic cloves mixed in, if you know what i mean :p

[T-Bird]

I don't know - but I'm afraid to inquire further!:eek:

[gritsnla]

It took me a while to read all the posts....but glad I did! I do alright with tomatoes - hate green pepper but loving red, yellow and orange, but expensive. Trying to grow some of my own. Enjoyed reading all the replies!

[Aleesha Sattva]

oooooooooooooooooooh! Congratulations!

Now - instead of listening to your body - you have to listen to the baby's!

i know... amazing how life changes when you are growing a babe!


i wonder..could this have something to do with how intensely detoxing garlic is? and now that we're raw..we're eating it raw instead of cooked, so it actually is detoxing us? i know it's recommended for candida..the bloating/feeling crappy sort of sounds like candida die off to me. :confused:


no, i believe the both garlic and onions simply create gas inside us and it's very uncomfy. period. kinda like saurkraut does to my hubby LOL

cause i can juice garlic with no bloating... but eat it raw in something and this mama is in pain!

[moonltstrl]

Wow! This place is great! Hey iwuvmydoggy, I love bitter greens!
Dandelions! Greens and blossoms. Kale is great too, but I just love dandelions.

As far as the topic question here of what not to eat, I have noticed I get a mild sore throat from eating raw beets. No problem with kvass though. Purslane is another I have recently been reacting to. Bummer too, I really like the flavor. First couple times I had tumbleweed tips, they were awesome. Now, I get a sore throat. Goes away in like 5 minutes, but it makes me wonder why I am reacting. I'm thinking maybe a detox reaction, but then it could be a flag. So for now I will avoid those.

I crave mushrooms and even dream about them. I didn't even used to like them.

I pick the seeds out of hubby's watermelon for me to eat! How strange is that? I also crave the part of the canteloupe where the seeds attach and sometimes eat the seeds too. Love seeded black grapes. I get mad when hubby spits out the seeds. I'll buy him seedless if he's gonna do that!

How about the white pith on citrus fruits? Yummm! Any one crave that? Or bell pepper seeds and core?

[rawfigure]

I cannot succesfully eat any Pepper, Onions, Garlic, Cucumbers or I get indigestion (and Garlic gas :rolleyes:). If I juice them, no problem !

[donnyandcathy]

That is funny you mention the sore throat, because I was wondering what was going on with me.
I knew I wasn't "sick" and I had no other symptoms, but after I ate, I would get this weird throat thingy, hard to explain, but like it was kind of scratchy/sore, or my throat felt thick like I needed to clear it. I notice this after I drink my green smoothie which has (Pineapple, Cherries, Mango, Cilantro, and one of the greens Spinach, Kale, or Chard, I also add in Chia Fiber) I'm not sure if it's a detox thing or a reaction to one of the foods.
I juiced this morning and used carrots, beets, celery, and cucumber, and noticed my throat did the same thing, in fact it has kind of lasted all day.
Strange!! But thank you for posting that.

Cathy