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sweetgoddess
08-12-2005, 01:31 PM
I came across this in a book and thought I would share. The book is We Want to Live by cancer-survivor/nutritionist/scientist Aajonus Vonderplanitz.
I found this interesting so thought I would share.


..."honeys labeled 'Unheated' can't be heated over beehive temperature on a hot day - that's 100 Fahrenheit. In the body, 80-90% of unheated honey turns into enzymes for digestion, assimilation and utilization. Whereas, honeys that are labeled 'Raw' or 'Uncooked' can be heated up to 160° which they do to thin the honey for quicker filtering and bottling for more profits. 'Raw' or 'Uncooked' honeys mainly turn into radical blood sugar. 'Unheated' is the key word with honey. You can eat as much unheated honey as you want, as long as you have a taste for it....
honey helps you digest and utilize. "

sonar
08-12-2005, 01:42 PM
Oh No! I just bought Raw Raw Honey and thought it was perfect -- says its drained right from the honeycombs, pieces of honeycomb may be in the honey...FULL of live enzymes. Its the best honey I've ever had. Now, I don't know what to think. I'm curious about what others think/know about it. sonja.

Mommax4
08-12-2005, 01:45 PM
I'm a little curious to see how "Uncooked" and "Unheated" really varies. I would take it to mean the same thing. I'm going to have to call our local bee guy and get his take on it.

kiwilime
08-12-2005, 01:47 PM
I just bought some raw honey too.... :confused: I won't touch it tell I hear more about it.

sweetgoddess
08-12-2005, 02:01 PM
hmm interesting.
Well, I just went and read my jar of honey. On the side it says unheated, unprocessed, true raw state.
It is hard, not liquid or pourable.

Mommax4, if you do talk to a beekeeper, can you let us know what you discover?

Sonja, what brand of honey did you buy?

The great honey mystery!

Mommax4
08-12-2005, 02:50 PM
I will report back what I find out. Waiting for hubby to get home, he knows him better so I'll let him pose the question for me...lol

Healing1
08-12-2005, 04:04 PM
I have a jar of Really Raw Honey. It was quite expensive, but the jar said it was never stained and never heated and no pesticides. It has lots of little brown and amber pieces on top. It is thicker than honey I used to buy.
I think its the best honey I have ever tasted, and I never really liked honey.

angelandarose
08-12-2005, 05:13 PM
I'm a little curious to see how "Uncooked" and "Unheated" really varies. I would take it to mean the same thing. I'm going to have to call our local bee guy and get his take on it.


Yes that is my question too.


The last jar of raw honey I bought was dark as molasses and THICK. It is the yummiest batch I've every gotten. Can't wait to hear the results on this. Maybe I will call my raw honey supplier too.


Love,
Angie

rawgrrl
08-13-2005, 01:33 AM
LOVE raw honey. It's SO MUCH BETTER than the heated stuff. No comparison. My two cents.

starry-eyed-doe
08-13-2005, 10:58 AM
so what are a few good brands to buy that are unheated?

sweetgoddess
08-13-2005, 11:04 AM
The jar I buy at the Health Food Store is Y.S. Organic Bee Farms Honey.

Interesting. It says on here:

Harvested without the use of Terramycin, Fumagillia (B.A.), Fluvalinate; chemicals widely used in conventional beekeeping to control diseases and parasites.

Our organic honey is never forcefully processed to make creamy (spreadable) like other non-organic raw honeys.

Wow, must discover what all that is about!!

Mommax4
08-13-2005, 12:42 PM
Okay, I just got back from visiting with the bee man. He said truly raw honey that hasn't any chemicals or heat will actually sugar on the bottom. He never uses heat to get honey out of the combs or in any way. Something special about the beas he has and the type of flowers they get their honey from..etc etc way over this gals head.

PixieGreen
08-13-2005, 02:04 PM
I love that honey sugar. I buy my honey a quart at a time and I can't wait to get to the bottom of the jar. :) Mine is purchased in bulk labelled "raw." Sold by the north texas beekeepers cooperative.

Christa

Mommax4
08-13-2005, 02:12 PM
Sold by the north texas beekeepers cooperative.
Christa

He He, I buy mine in East Texas :) Texas just has great honey...

sean lee
08-13-2005, 05:26 PM
Hello. One week to two weeks ago I found out that one of my friends knows a beekeeper who she buys raw honey off, no heating of honey involved. I am posting from sydney australia though.
I have always loved honey but I am not sure If I have ever had truly raw honey before. Something to look forward to.

Autumn
08-13-2005, 11:51 PM
Oooh, then I guess the honey I buy must be truly raw because it always sugars at the bottom?

thehat
08-14-2005, 01:24 AM
[QUOTE=sweetgoddess]hmm interesting.
Well, I just went and read my jar of honey. On the side it says unheated, unprocessed, true raw state.
It is hard, not liquid or pourable.

Mommax4, if you do talk to a beekeeper, can you let us know what you discover?

Sonja, what brand of honey did you buy?

The great honey mystery!

thehat
08-14-2005, 01:26 AM
I came across this in a book and thought I would share. The book is We Want to Live by cancer-survivor/nutritionist/scientist Aajonus Vonderplanitz.
I found this interesting so thought I would share.


..."honeys labeled 'Unheated' can't be heated over beehive temperature on a hot day - that's 100 Fahrenheit. In the body, 80-90% of unheated honey turns into enzymes for digestion, assimilation and utilization. Whereas, honeys that are labeled 'Raw' or 'Uncooked' can be heated up to 160° which they do to thin the honey for quicker filtering and bottling for more profits. 'Raw' or 'Uncooked' honeys mainly turn into radical blood sugar. 'Unheated' is the key word with honey. You can eat as much unheated honey as you want, as long as you have a taste for it....
honey helps you digest and utilize. "
Why use honey at all? Did the bees give you permission to take their honey?

I use organic, raw agave nectar. It tastes great and yes, the cacti did give me permission.

angelandarose
08-14-2005, 07:02 AM
Why use honey at all? Did the bees give you permission to take their honey?

I use organic, raw agave nectar. It tastes great and yes, the cacti did give me permission.

And you have that in writing??? hehehehe :p

Not everyone here is Vegan when it comes to Honey. ;)


I was told it is best to buy RAW Honey from a local bee keeper that is within at least 60 miles of where you live. That is because the local bees pick up the local pollens and such that cause most people's allergies. It helps you to fight off allergies by using local honey.


Love,
Angie

Jo-anne
08-14-2005, 08:09 AM
okay now you all got me curious, I just checked my jar of organic raw honey and its states the following:

Our organic certification is your guarantee that this honey is free of any added chemicals. It is harvested away from industrial areas, sanitary landfills or garbage dumps. The bees have not been fed with sugar, and no chemicals are used when extracting the honey. The honey is not heated over 45 degrees celsious, as over-heating can reduce the enzymes and nutrional value of the honey.

The honey that I purchase is called "Pureharvest Organic Raw Honey", I live in SYdney AUstralia but not sure if they export it to the US or maybe its imported from the US to us, who knows where Australia is getting their produce from anymore.

Just thought i'd let you know about this particular brand of honey.

Jo-anne

Jo-anne
08-14-2005, 08:11 AM
okay get his......just noticed something interesting on the other side of my jar of honey. it reads............WARNING: May contain traces of nuts, seeds or soy, ummm when did bees start consuming such food ????

i guess my next question would be, are the nuts, seeds and soy also organic???

interesting
Jo-anne

sweetgoddess
08-14-2005, 08:44 AM
thehat~

Why use honey at all? Did the bees give you permission to take their honey?

I use honey because I choose to. Thank you for handling that in a mature manner and not judging -even if it goes against what you choose for yourself. :) You are always more than welcome to share your beliefs with me, but I dont welcome you to impose them.
I would like to share with you, that I personally believe cacti are no less a life-form than bees.

Jo-Anne,

May contain traces of nuts, seeds or soy, ummm when did bees start consuming such food ????

How odd. Maybe it is jarred in a facilty that also produces nut products, in which case they would state that for safety reasons?

Blessings~

Autumn
08-14-2005, 04:46 PM
it reads............WARNING: May contain traces of nuts, seeds or soy, um

I believe by law the manufacturers *must* state this on the packaging of any product that is manufactured, bottled, etc. anywhere in the same facility that also packages, processes or jars *anything* containing nuts or seeds. I imagine it's because of the very serious allergic reaction someone may have to even a trace amount of nuts/seeds or soy.

I doubt very much if the honey has any trace amount of that stuff in there, it's just a CYA thing.

twinyoga
08-14-2005, 07:43 PM
I was at my local Whole Foods and I just bought the real, real, raw unheated, uncooked, honey. I'm going to try it tomorrow. It even says that there are bits and pieces of honeycomb and such in it. I already have honey, but it's uncooked and I know now that because of it's liquid state that it's not true, true raw. So I'll still use it till it's gone...but I'll use it on my face too and save the good stuff for the eating.

Oh, and it wasn't expensive. It was actually cheaper than the bottled honey.

hotgugon
08-15-2005, 09:15 AM
the sugar that collects on the bottom...what do u guys use if for?...any special recipes?