raw during double+ century ride

[fixie]

this past weekend my partner and i rode about 250 miles in about 24 hours. in the past when we have done this ride, i would bring shot bloks and gels and HEED exercise drink. even so, when we would get to a grocery store, i went in and bought berries and bananas and apples as that is what my body craved.

so, this year i filled two bottles with green lemonade (kale, spinach, celery, lemon, apples), and made a large bag of raw trail mix (raw cashews and almonds, cacao nibs, dried fruit). other than a small amount of HEED on the first half of the ride, i was completely raw. for the second half, i was less raw. when we got to our turn around point at 6am in the morning, i was chilled since the temps dropped to 38 and all i wanted was warm food. eggs and a buttermilk pancake (the most wheat i've had in ages!). still, once warm and back on the bike i was eating my trail mix and apples. a little HEED, but mostly water.

my energy was fine, and i felt lighter and more cheerful for the first half of the ride. i never felt like i had to force in the calories when they were fresh. i am really excited to try and do this ride again 100% raw. any suggestions for ultra-endurance type events like this? i am hoping to eventually do the arrowhead ultra in a year or two. my background is in triathlon, but only up to 1/2 im distance and in the past, always with loads of prepackaged foods (powder, gels, bloks, etc).

fixie

[spicyfull]

Tri......what?:). You're RAWsome. I can run, swim and cycle but not in the same day, not even in the same hour and I thought I was pretty fit. So My Hat's off to you. Things can only get BETTER......

[triathleteND]

Hi. I am training for a olympic distance triathlon and I'm trying to figure out the fueling part when I am going over an hour or two. What have you learned that works?

[MTBMaven]

First post - here goes. :)

I started a thread on this subject on a MTB forum I frequent. See link for my collection of information on this subject. http://www.socaltrailriders.org/forum/racing-training/38878-natural-raw-homemade-food-drink-thread.html

I am interested in raw breads or something similar that is dense in energy, will not spoil without refrigeration in upwards of 90 degree temps for 4-6 hours, is low in fiber, and has a high glycemic index.

The race potatoes I made for an event in March, see link for more details, worked out great. They tasted so good. I am going to make them again for a 12 hour race in November but add lentils. I realize this is not raw but they worked for me.

I am looking to find more information on raw race/endurance food myself.

[fixie]

Hi. I am training for a olympic distance triathlon and I'm trying to figure out the fueling part when I am going over an hour or two. What have you learned that works?

I haven't done a tri since going raw (did roller derby for 2 years and during that time just skated, ran, did weights, and rode my bike year round), but I am planning on starting up again next year.

Just with pre-packaged endurance food, my advice is this - experiment with different foods during training to see what works for you. Even if i had it down to a science, everyone's body is different.

When I start racing again, my plan for shorter events (<2 hours) is to eat normally leading up to the event, and during the event stick with juices and home made raw agave nectar and/or raw honey 'energy gel'. For longer events (>2 hours), I will use more whole fruits & veggies (bananas, apples, oranges, MANGOS, avocados), sprouted breads w/ raw peanut or almond butter, and also juice and agave. I want to try making my own 'gels' with raw agave or raw honey w/ some electrolytes mixed in and maybe some maca and cacao. Would love to try out VEGA products as well, but I firmly believe I can do it without a lot of prepackaged foods. I also really like the Hammer line of products (no colors or preservatives, but not raw).

[fixie]

First post - here goes. :)

I am interested in raw breads or something similar that is dense in energy, will not spoil without refrigeration in upwards of 90 degree temps for 4-6 hours, is low in fiber, and has a high glycemic index.


I am thinking about playing around with the onion bread from 'Rawvolution' to see what I can come up with. It has a very strong flavor which might not be super cool when I'm hot and above 160 BPM, but if i can use maybe vadalias w/ raw honey or raw agave. Recipe already called for ground nuts, so maybe increasing the amount, adding some avocado to add fat/energy and mellow out the flavor. Not quite sure what I will do but those are some ideas.

I think it would be pretty easy to make a fully raw 'clif bar' style bar in the dehydrator. Not a bread, but could be modified to be more bread-like.

[Blazin'Jane]

I am so happy to see this conversation. During my 2 1/2 years raw, I've experimented alot with the best nutrition/hydration plan for long bike rides. For long day rides --75-100 miles--I like to make energy soup (there are recipes everywhere. I fill my two water bottles with that. I drink one in the morning and one after lunch. When I stop for water, I fill whichever bottle I'm working on with water, so the energy soup gets a little diluted along the way. Also at rest stops, I eat bananas almost exclusively. I get sort of tired of them by the end of the day, but they keep me at peak energy and my stomach is never upset. Also, at the end of the ride, nothing hurts this 68 y.o. body. Nothing. And if we're doing a multiple day ride, I feel fine to begin the next day, with no muscle hangover whatsoever. I find that remarkable.
Earlier this month we did a 350 mide in very hilly sw Wisconsin. I brought my blender with me and made green smoothies every morning. Then I pretty much lived on bananas until we finished riding for the day, usually about 3. If we stopped for lunch, I just got the best salad I could--often not too great---after the ride I ate lots of other fruits and then a big salad for dinner. I felt great for the whole ride, and rode very well. I just can't even imagine any more what it would be like to put some chemicalled mixture in my body when I'm trying to perform well and feel good doing it. Thanks for the great topic!:)

[green jeanie]

yeah let's go with this for awhile

if you search my history you can find some stuff i used for mountaineering training and climbing this spring.

SWEET POTATOES make a great carb load food. I used them with nuts, bananas and dates to make a custard type of breakfast before going out

i also got into sun warrior protein pwdr and would make my own protein bars.

green smoothies in the freezer the night before then ready half way through are awesome

imo raisins suck. dates and oranges rule.

Sun Food raw chocolate raw chocolate raw chocolate. and i would have the "best hikes ever" just moving weightlessly.

i need to start training..........;)

[revdrcyn]

Hi. I am training for a olympic distance triathlon and I'm trying to figure out the fueling part when I am going over an hour or two. What have you learned that works?

I am training for a full triathlon. In addition to Alissa's weekly plan, I follow Brendan Brazier's plan for exercise-specific nutrition. He is a vegan world-class triathlete.

I use the raw options of his recipes, obviously. He has pre- and post-exercise recipes that are raw. Also some great raw "energy gels" for during.

He has specific guidelines for 1-hour, 1 to 2-hour, and greater than 2-hour sessions.

Here's Brendans web site:

http://www.brendanbrazier.com/