Would anything raw work in these compressed gas whippers?

[raweater]

I had seen these on the internet a while ago, then on TV, and today in person at a store at a good price. I almost bought it but I have no idea if anything raw would work in them.

Does anyone know if a nut based cream could be whipped using one of these? If no one knows I might go buy it anyway and if nothing works I'll resell it on ebay. I'm thinking coconut milk would work since the far gets solid at room temp but I rarely make my own coconut milk due to the work that's required to make it. Does anyone know of something other than coconut milk that would work in it?

Thanks

(updated image to the one I purchased)
http://www.isi-store.com/imagesEdp/p12251z.jpg

[T-Bird]

I've wondered the same thing! And I have one of them......


But no vitamix to whip up some cashew creme! My blender makes it grainy - I didn't think it was worth trying.....


I'm hoping to get a vitamix soon and would love to experiment with this.

Any recipe ideas?

[raweater]

I'm really thinking of buying it soon, maybe even today. If you don't have a vitamix you can strain your cashew/macadamia milk after blending it. I'd also recommend adding coconut oil to the blend so the hardened coconut oil may help hold the mousse togheter. Or if you have time make a rich coconut milk by blending and straining mature coconut with just enough water to blend.

It's also important that the blend be very sold before whipping.

[raweater]

I noticed many dairy free recipes use gelatin to make the mousse hold. I'm thinking agar could work for a vegan/mostly raw version (the agar needs to be boiled with water but you can then cool it and add raw ingredients, I have raw jello recipes made this way).

[T-Bird]

I think whipping in coconut oil and popping the container in the fridge for a few hours would work wonderfully.

My second option would be to whip in some chia seeds as well.

I try not to flirt with the 99.9% raw.:p

[raweater]

The cashews/macadamias are likely to not be truely raw anyway, so a spoonful of cooked agar is quite minimal compared to the likely cooked nuts which are most of the recipe.

I really think I'll buy it tonight, and it's only $50 canadian, I had heard of it being $125 and even on ebay it costs more with the shipping. I'm a bit tight on cash these days but I'm having a hard time resisting to buying that, plus if it doesn't work I can either return it or sell it on ebay.

[katchmoleen]

Ha, I know nothing about these but when I saw the post title I thought you must be talking about my intestines on a SAD diet.;)

[raweater]

Well I just bought it, I'll try various recipes and let you know how it goes.

[raweater]

Attempt one, failure one: For some reason I decided to start with a soy based cream from the grocery store I bought just for this purpose (I normally don't consume soy other than soy sauce occasionally), to that I added agave, coconut oil to make it richer and stiffer, and vanilla flavored stevia (I preferred not to use vanilla beans to prevent small bits from clogging the whipper, but I'll eventually try with vanilla beans, with my blendtec there won't be much bits left anyway).

It comes out as whipped cream but collapses within seconds. I have it in the freezer now to chill in the hopes that hardening the coconut oil more will help it hold. In any case it tastes really good

Attempt two will be (this blend is already done and chilling in the freezer) 1 cup macadamia nuts, about 1/4 cup agave, about 1/4 cup of coconut oil, vanilla flavored stevia and 1 tbsp agar dilluted in 1/4 cup of hot water to further help it stiffen (agar is a seaweed based gelatin). I then added water to fill the blender to the 2 cup line (the capacity of my whipper). Once blended it was far thicker than my first blend so I have good hopes for this one, but the blender warmed it up a bit so it's chilling in the freezer, the blends must be very cold for them to be whipable from what I've read.

I should have tried the 2nd blend in a few hours, I'll let you know how that one goes, I hope it works. I did expect a few failures before a success, if any success arrives but that 2nd blend looks really promising.

[raweater]

OK well I tried my 2nd blend and it didn't work but it wasn't cold yet. I tried it again a bit later and it works! Raw whipped cream IS possible! yay!

[katchmoleen]

I hope you post this on the recipes thread!

[raweater]

What exactly is the recipes thread?

[PeachyLove]

I was drooling over this whipper and the molcajete a few days ago on william-sonoma sites. Since you posted your experiment I was thinking about purchasing the stainless-steel whipper.

I was wondering, do you have to use the nitrous oxide cartridges, with your whipper?

If so do you know if nitrous oxide is safe and natural? On the site it say its pure nitrous oxide, but that can be pure poison. lol

Thanks for thinking outside the box.

I Love gadgets.

[raweater]

Yes, it does need the nitrous oxide cartridges, it is safe and natural and found in the atmosphere. It is also known as laughing gas and used for anasthesia in dentistry. The only risk I heard of is if you're breathing only nitrous oxide and no oxygen, but then the problem is lack of oxygen and not any toxicity from the nitrous oxide.

I just tried another mix of blended raspberry, coconut oil and agar and it doesn't whip at all. It seems to need a thick, high fat blend. I'll keep experimenting but at least have found one blend that works well.

[raweater]

BTW I didn't get the model in the photo I posted above, I got the more basic model, it was $10 less, has the same capacity, and I prefer it's more basic look, almost like the compressed whipped cream containers at the grocery stores. It also has a few less parts.

http://www.isi-store.com/imagesEdp/p12251z.jpg

[coconut-slave]

Another ingredient that might work well is rice flour. I don't know if you can eat it raw, but it can be used as an egg substitute in cooking, and, when mixed with water, can be beaten into a thin meringue-like substance.

[T-Bird]

Another ingredient that might work well is rice flour. I don't know if you can eat it raw, but it can be used as an egg substitute in cooking, and, when mixed with water, can be beaten into a thin meringue-like substance.

Poopers!!

I was soooooooooooooooooo wanting a vegan meringue sub - but couldn't think of any way and gave up.


Now that I'm raw - you bring this up.....:(

[raweater]

I'm sure you can make a vegan meringue using a whipper like I got. I'm getting good results so far. I had tried making raw whipped cream with the whisk attachment for my food processor and raw creams just don't whip that way, for the reason the gas whipper I bought works great to make raw whipped cream. It also multiplies the volume by 5 times (500 ml of cream gives 2500 ml of whipped cream).