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iluvmangos
06-15-2009, 08:51 AM
I don't know what in the world to do about my fertility. I'm on day 1 of the Master Cleanse, but I don't know if I can hack it. I can't stand the salt water flush. I have kids, so I can't be going to the bathroom every 5 minutes. I'm gonna go through so much toilet paper it's not even funny.

My ND told me to take 200mg of B6 daily and take vitex and mitchella starting on day 14 of my cycle. I did that for a couple months and it did nothing. I still have 21-23 day cycles. I've tried progesterone cream. I've tried taking vitex the whole cycle. I've tried taking 1T. maca daily. Zip, zilch, nada.

Is the Master Cleanse the only hope for me? I hope not. Is there an easier way?

Please help.

PeachyLove
06-16-2009, 02:01 AM
If you can could you explain, what type of fertility challenges you are having?


Have you tried:
Prayer
Affirmation
Visualization - Book (Positive Imaging) Norman Vincent Peale
Do you know when you are ovulating? Book (Taking Charge Of Your Fertility)
Fertility yoga
Acupuncture
Louise Hay for mental and emotional healing. Book (You Can Change Your Life)
Have you check for any nutritional deficiencies?
Specific raw food diet plan for boosting fertility with nutrition

From The Book (Food Bible)

Top Fertility Foods
Hemp and pumpkin seeds, avocados, almonds, figs, berries, pomegranates, brown rice, oats, nori , quinoa sprouts alfalfa and sunflower, black beans

Folic acid, iron calcium selenium, zinc, manganese, magnesium, essential fatty acids, b complex, vitamin c, vitamin a (beta carotene), probiotics, prebiotics

Herb Tincture
Agnus Castus - regulate periods, balances hormones stimulate ovulation and significantly enhance fertility

Fertility Herbs as stated in the book (Common Herbs For Natural Health)

Said herbs are to be eaten raw when palatable, when not taken with some honey and flour in pill form.
One heaped teaspoon or more, until no longer needed.

All mints (except peppermint), basil, balm, marjoram, sage, rosemary, thyme, nasturtium, coriander (including seeds), vervain, bindweed, fumitory, wormwood, southern wood, borage, fennel (including seeds), anise and dill seeds, nettle seed, linseed (flaxseed), ginger, cinnamon, cloves, cayenne, licorice, flowers of red roses and red clover, fruits, juice and trendils of grapevine, raw corn kernels, raw flaked oats, almonds, pistachio, summer savory, angelica, chicory flowers


If you decide to take any of the herbs listed in this post , please do additional research.

I hope the information above, bless you with your hearts desire.

Robin

spicyfull
06-16-2009, 02:12 AM
Yes do explain, I did not know Master Cleanse had anything to do with being Fertile. What about menopause?, that will make you lose it.

Raw Angel Mom
06-16-2009, 04:55 AM
If you can could you explain, what type of fertility challenges you are having?


Have you tried:
Prayer
Affirmation
Visualization - Book (Positive Imaging) Norman Vincent Peale
Do you know when you are ovulating? Book (Taking Charge Of Your Fertility)
Fertility yoga
Acupuncture
Louise Hay for mental and emotional healing. Book (You Can Change Your Life)
Have you check for any nutritional deficiencies?
Specific raw food diet plan for boosting fertility with nutrition

From The Book (Food Bible)

Top Fertility Foods
Hemp and pumpkin seeds, avocados, almonds, figs, berries, pomegranates, brown rice, oats, nori , quinoa sprouts alfalfa and sunflower, black beans

Folic acid, iron calcium selenium, zinc, manganese, magnesium, essential fatty acids, b complex, vitamin c, vitamin a (beta carotene), probiotics, prebiotics

Herb Tincture
Agnus Castus - regulate periods, balances hormones stimulate ovulation and significantly enhance fertility

Fertility Herbs as stated in the book (Common Herbs For Natural Health)

Said herbs are to be eaten raw when palatable, when not taken with some honey and flour in pill form.
One heaped teaspoon or more, until no longer needed.

All mints (except peppermint), basil, balm, marjoram, sage, rosemary, thyme, nasturtium, coriander (including seeds), vervain, bindweed, fumitory, wormwood, southern wood, borage, fennel (including seeds), anise and dill seeds, nettle seed, linseed (flaxseed), ginger, cinnamon, cloves, cayenne, licorice, flowers of red roses and red clover, fruits, juice and trendils of grapevine, raw corn kernels, raw flaked oats, almonds, pistachio, summer savory, angelica, chicory flowers


If you decide to take any of the herbs listed in this post , please do additional research.

I hope the information above, bless you with your hearts desire.

Robin

Oh, mye, i better watch out, i am attracted to most of those food and herbs,lol....

You seem to have a great book. Would you mind to share more about the title and author, i would love to buy that.

Thank you!

iwuvmydoggy
06-16-2009, 05:20 AM
Oh, mye, i better watch out, i am attracted to most of those food and herbs,lol....

You seem to have a great book. Would you mind to share more about the title and author, i would love to buy that.

Thank you!

LOL i was thinking the same thing!... so +1 on everything Raw Angel Mom said! :D

That's funny.. XD

I don't believe in using birth control... well.. traditional stuff, like the pill or shot that thing that they stick in your uterus.. and I don't like the idea of having my parts cut up and mutilated or removed... If I have to have anything removed, I will ask for it to come home with me in a jar... LOL

iluvmangos
06-16-2009, 09:20 AM
If you can could you explain, what type of fertility challenges you are having?

My youngest is 7 years old. I haven't used any type of birth control the whole time since having him. I do know that I ovulate on day 14 of my cycle, but I get my period 7-9 days later, 10 max, which means I have a luteal phase defect. I ovulated on day 12 when I tried the vitex the whole month instead of starting on day 14 like the ND suggested.

The ND also told me I could do some expensive hormone testing, but I couldn't afford that so he told me a few things, which I already mentioned, to take. I did that and it did nothing. He did test my thyroid. He said it was within normal range, but could use some support. He recommended I take some animal glandular thyroid pills, which I did, but I quit. I'm trying to incorporate more seaweeds into my diet instead. He also tested my iron, which was fine. I haven't checked for nutritional deficiencies beyond that.

I have tried prayer. I still pray, but not as much I should. I'm so discouraged. I don't know what you mean by affirmation. How do I do that? I do eat some of the foods you mentioned. I'll make a point to eat more of those and check out those books you mentioned.

I really don't think it's a problem with my husband. I know it's me. I'm the one with the short luteal phase. I had my gall bladder removed shortly after the birth of my youngest. I don't know if that has anything to do with anything. It was removed because gall stones passed into my pancreas, causing acute pancreatitis, killing a third of my pancreas.

I was diagnosed with diabetes in 2005, but is well controlled with the raw vegan diet.

By the way, I quit the Master Cleanse. I'm just not ready for it yet.

iluvmangos
06-16-2009, 09:22 AM
Yes do explain, I did not know Master Cleanse had anything to do with being Fertile. What about menopause?, that will make you lose it.


I read that the Master Cleanse is supposed to help with fertility by getting toxins out of you. I don't think I'm going through menopause. I don't skip periods or anything. I'm only 31.

PeachyLove
06-16-2009, 10:21 AM
I posted this a very long time ago in another post. Sorry, I do not know how to post a link.



Raw is great for fertility challenges, because it cleanses a toxic body and floods it with much needed nutrients.

I copied the excerpt below from an article, I found a few months ago.
"Women consuming 10g of flaxseed per day experienced longer menstrual cycle length, increased progesterone-to-estrogen ratios, and fewer anovulatory cycles, all of which were considered to reflect improved ovarian function."

Also, I have read several testimonial over the past two years, of women eating sweet potatoes everyday and becoming pregnant. The sweet potatoes are suppose to increase progesterone or ovulation. Scientific data state sweet potatoes do not contain progesterone.
Sweet potatoes are good source of beta carotene and other nutrients, so I guess it wouldn't hurt to try.

I would try the flaxseed and sweet potatoes for 3 to 6 months, while eating raw to detox and flood my body with nutrients.

Adding cruciferous vegetables such as broccoli, Brussels sprouts, kale and cabbage will help detox excessive estrogen.

I read Kelp and magnesium are good for thyroid support.

All plant base fiber is awesome, but the fiber found in whole grains and beans help keep circulating estrogen in the blood low and rid the body of excessive amounts of estrogen through bowel movement.

The liver detox estrogen from the body. That's all I know about the liver, so my next Amazon purchase is The Liver-Cleansing Diet by Sandra Cabot. The author is not raw, but I am hoping to get some great information. This book has 51 reviews and 4.5 stars.

PeachyLove
06-16-2009, 10:30 AM
Oh, mye, i better watch out, i am attracted to most of those food and herbs,lol....

You seem to have a great book. Would you mind to share more about the title and author, i would love to buy that.

Thank you!

I actually have not had a chance to read (Common Herbs For Natural Health by Juliette de Bairacli Levy and Heather Wood) I just received it from amazon. The author is from the UK so she may have a different perspective.

When I read iluvmangos post, I cheated by using the index and looking up all the pages with fertility.:D

I have serveral books dealing with specifically fertility, I just have not had a chance to read them.

iluvmangos
06-16-2009, 11:54 AM
I copied the excerpt below from an article, I found a few months ago.
"Women consuming 10g of flaxseed per day experienced longer menstrual cycle length, increased progesterone-to-estrogen ratios, and fewer anovulatory cycles, all of which were considered to reflect improved ovarian function."

I have a bag of golden flax seeds. It says a serving is 2 tablespoons which is 21 grams, so 10 grams would be basically a tablespoon. I'm gonna take a tablespoon a day in smoothies, starting today, and see if that helps. I'll do the sweet potatoes, too, and try to find some raw kelp powder.

I'm also gonna start eating beets and lemon juice as they are supposed to be good liver detoxifiers.

Thanks for all your suggestions.

iluvmangos
06-16-2009, 12:13 PM
PeachyLove,

Is this the Food Bible book you were talking about?

http://www.amazon.com/Food-Bible-Ultimate-Reference-Health/dp/1903845467/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1245171766&sr=8-3

PeachyLove
06-16-2009, 02:39 PM
My youngest is 7 years old. I haven't used any type of birth control the whole time since having him. I do know that I ovulate on day 14 of my cycle, but I get my period 7-9 days later, 10 max, which means I have a luteal phase defect. I ovulated on day 12 when I tried the vitex the whole month instead of starting on day 14 like the ND suggested.

The ND also told me I could do some expensive hormone testing, but I couldn't afford that so he told me a few things, which I already mentioned, to take. I did that and it did nothing. He did test my thyroid. He said it was within normal range, but could use some support. He recommended I take some animal glandular thyroid pills, which I did, but I quit. I'm trying to incorporate more seaweeds into my diet instead. He also tested my iron, which was fine. I haven't checked for nutritional deficiencies beyond that.

I have tried prayer. I still pray, but not as much I should. I'm so discouraged. I don't know what you mean by affirmation. How do I do that? I do eat some of the foods you mentioned. I'll make a point to eat more of those and check out those books you mentioned.

I really don't think it's a problem with my husband. I know it's me. I'm the one with the short luteal phase. I had my gall bladder removed shortly after the birth of my youngest. I don't know if that has anything to do with anything. It was removed because gall stones passed into my pancreas, causing acute pancreatitis, killing a third of my pancreas.

I was diagnosed with diabetes in 2005, but is well controlled with the raw vegan diet.

By the way, I quit the Master Cleanse. I'm just not ready for it yet.


Hi iluvmangos,

I’ll have to do some research, to see what information I can find that may be of some help. I will post something within two days.

Also, All we need is a little faith, (faith grows) so keep praying. Thanking the creator for your healthy reproductive organs, balance hormones, healthy body, beautiful children, magnificent husband, awesome life, spectacular raw food, this wonderful world etc….

I read that if a person wants to heal, the body and mind has to relax. So, any mental and emotional stress is a no, no.

Also, ask yourself how would you feel, if you found out you were pregnant today? How would you feel wants the baby is born ?

If you feel happy, joy, bliss etc…. stay with those feeling (I love doing this, as it feel so good) allow them to consume you 24 hours a day everyday. No matter what, always stay with these feeling.

See yourself beautifully pregnant, see your self holding your beautiful baby, feeding, bathing, singing, laughing etc…

Louise Hay is the queen of affirmation please check out here book (You Can Heal Your Life)

PeachyLove
06-16-2009, 02:47 PM
PeachyLove,

Is this the Food Bible book you were talking about?

http://www.amazon.com/Food-Bible-Ultimate-Reference-Health/dp/1903845467/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1245171766&sr=8-3

The book I have is Gillian McKeith's Food Bible: How to Use Food to Cure What Ails You by Gillian McKeith

Check out: Agnus Castus - regulate periods, balances hormones stimulate ovulation and significantly enhance fertility

Gillian says if you choose one herb for fertility go with agnus castus.

ShantiLove
06-16-2009, 04:12 PM
I just got the book The fertility diet by Sarah Dobbyn. Lots of great information and really raw friendly.

If you are into the more spiritual side of it try the book Spirit babies by Walter Makichen. I highly recomend it.

katchmoleen
06-16-2009, 04:53 PM
I believe a short luteal phase is usually caused by an excess in estrogen and a shortage of progesterone. A raw food diet should help this in the long run. In the short run you can use bioidentical progesterone cream. You don't need to do expensive tests, just take it and increase it till the symptoms go away. The other thing you need to do is eliminate phyto and xeno estrogens from your system. Here is a good link to learn about xeno estrogens in our environments:
http://nobreastcyst.com/xeno.html
Phyto estrogens are found in food like soy. A google search will help you identify phytoestrogens, but most raw food diets are low in phytoestrogens. Make sure the progesterone cream you get is xenoestrogen free. It needs to not contain petroleum products etc. For more info you can read Any one of John Lee MD's books titled "What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About......etc etc_" Here is an article about progesterone and fertility:
http://www.yourlifesource.com/progesterone-fertility.htm

Good luck. Infertility can be so heartbreaking.

PeachyLove
06-16-2009, 08:25 PM
I believe a short luteal phase is usually caused by an excess in estrogen and a shortage of progesterone. A raw food diet should help this in the long run. In the short run you can use bioidentical progesterone cream. You don't need to do expensive tests, just take it and increase it till the symptoms go away. The other thing you need to do is eliminate phyto and xeno estrogens from your system. Here is a good link to learn about xeno estrogens in our environments:
http://nobreastcyst.com/xeno.html
Phyto estrogens are found in food like soy. A google search will help you identify phytoestrogens, but most raw food diets are low in phytoestrogens. Make sure the progesterone cream you get is xenoestrogen free. It needs to not contain petroleum products etc. For more info you can read Any one of John Lee MD's books titled "What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About......etc etc_" Here is an article about progesterone and fertility:
http://www.yourlifesource.com/progesterone-fertility.htm

Good luck. Infertility can be so heartbreaking.

iluvmangos

This is off the top of my head.

A study was done were women who ate wheat bran muffins several times a day, estrogen drop by 17% in 2 months. The insoluble fiber in wheat bran detox estrogen from the body. Oat and corn bran was tested, but no change in estrogen levels occured.

Good bacteria in the gut, keep estrogen from being reabsorbed into the blood stream. (the gut should have 2 pounds of good bacteria)

Seaweed lowers estrogen

Cardio exercise will lower estrogen

Healthy liver - the liver detox estrogen from the body.

The book Taking Charge Of Your Fertility will explain how to track your menstrual cycles, so you can check if your luteal phase has increased.

bioidentical progesterone cream??? Maybe, wants the extra estrogen is detox from the body the progesterone will come into balance.

How is your libido? To personal Don’t answer. But I think increased libido is a sign of healthy progesterone levels. But don’t quote me on that.

Raediance
06-16-2009, 08:57 PM
Have you considered celiac disease or gluten intolerance? I don't know how raw you are or if you consume wheat products (they are hard to avoid in our culture). CD is notorious for causing fertility problems with or without the gastrointestinal issues that people generally tend to associate with it. My girlfriend tried for years to get pregnant with no luck and was just recently diagnosed with celiac. Might be something to check into if for no other reason than to rule it out! Best wishes to you! :)

iluvmangos
06-16-2009, 09:45 PM
Have you considered celiac disease or gluten intolerance? I don't know how raw you are or if you consume wheat products (they are hard to avoid in our culture). CD is notorious for causing fertility problems with or without the gastrointestinal issues that people generally tend to associate with it. My girlfriend tried for years to get pregnant with no luck and was just recently diagnosed with celiac. Might be something to check into if for no other reason than to rule it out! Best wishes to you! :)

I don't know if I have celiac disease, but I do think I have a gluten sensitivity. I do stay away from wheat. I've had some within the last couple weeks, but am really focusing on being 100% raw and plan to just stay away from wheat completely even if it's raw and sprouted and all that.

Domas
09-03-2010, 05:33 PM
My youngest is 7 years old. I haven't used any type of birth control the whole time since having him. I do know that I ovulate on day 14 of my cycle, but I get my period 7-9 days later, 10 max, which means I have a luteal phase defect. I ovulated on day 12 when I tried the vitex the whole month instead of starting on day 14 like the ND suggested.

The ND also told me I could do some expensive hormone testing, but I couldn't afford that so he told me a few things, which I already mentioned, to take. I did that and it did nothing. He did test my thyroid. He said it was within normal range, but could use some support. He recommended I take some animal glandular thyroid pills, which I did, but I quit. I'm trying to incorporate more seaweeds into my diet instead. He also tested my iron, which was fine. I haven't checked for nutritional deficiencies beyond that.

I have tried prayer. I still pray, but not as much I should. I'm so discouraged. I don't know what you mean by affirmation. How do I do that? I do eat some of the foods you mentioned. I'll make a point to eat more of those and check out those books you mentioned.

I really don't think it's a problem with my husband. I know it's me. I'm the one with the short luteal phase. I had my gall bladder removed shortly after the birth of my youngest. I don't know if that has anything to do with anything. It was removed because gall stones passed into my pancreas, causing acute pancreatitis, killing a third of my pancreas.

I was diagnosed with diabetes in 2005, but is well controlled with the raw vegan diet.

By the way, I quit the Master Cleanse. I'm just not ready for it yet.

Vegan diet benefits

A study published in the Diabetes care journal noted that persons on a vegan diet plan, one that favored green and colorful vegetables to animal products and fat tended to experience better weight loss and needed reduced drugs to manage their diabetes condition. It also showed reduction of LDL cholesterol.

* Those on a vegan diet plan are more likely to maintain healthy weight.
* A vegan diet plan is usually associated with lesser incidence of cancer or cardiac problems.
* A vegan diet is most often low on fat and high on complex carbohydrates.
* Such a diet plan devoid of animal products may aid in better management of type 2 diabetes.
* It may also benefit those seeking to reduce cholesterol levels.
* Following a predominantly vegan diet reduces the chances of diverticulitis, gall bladder symptoms (http://gallstones-gallbladder.blogspot.com/2010/06/patients-with-these-problems-are-common.html), hypertension and diet-related cancers.