non-raw mates?

[iwuvmydoggy]

Do any of you have significant others that are not on par with the raw thing? What's your advice or experience on that?

If you don't have a S/O, is a person's diet a make it or break it for you?

I am not raw, yet, but am getting there. :) For me, it would be a big issue, because I think it's normal to want someone that's got the same objectives in life as you do. Eating raw isn't a mere diet... It's a complete lifestyle.. If the person were open to trying it, then that would be a good start, but if they were completely opposed, then knowing myself the way I do, I just couldn't deal with such a big difference, and I could see a plethora of problems down the road... ie: what kind of food will your kid(s) eat?.. What about holidays?.. and etc.. So, what you eat is a huge part of your life.. Now.. If I had with someone for like 20 years & this was a new thing & they didn't wanna do it, then I guess I'd find a way to cope... Because that's 20 years.. lol But to start off with someone, I would obviously prefer someone with similar objectives in life... So there's my answer! :D

[spicyfull]

As far as MYSELF........The only Male in My Life I want with MEAT on his Breath had better have LOTS of Hair and a Waggily Tail and go RUF..RUF. That is the 4 legged Dog.

Its your Choice to pick and Choose. That's why you think about it Now and put it on your list of what you want in a Man...........RAW, RICH and Handsome.

to the naysayers.....save your time....make your own list.

[contessa20]

My husband is a SAD eater but it's really not that big of a deal. He does his thing and I do mine. We were both SAD eaters when we got married 11 yrs. ago. I wouldn't expect him to change to raw just because I did.

If, however, I were single now and looking for a partner, I would look for someone who was raw or, at the very least vegetarian but that certainly wouldn't be my only concern or requirement.

[Redrocket]

Yeah my girlfriend is showing signs of disapproval or maybe just confusion about what I'm doing. I don't get too upset about it. I'm more upset about her drinking alcohol. She drinks wine and has a little too much and embarrasses herself and I have told her I won't tolerate it much longer so I hope she doesn't turn into a closet drinker. She can't fool me, I can tell when someone is drinking around me because they start acting like fools:o I've been around enough to know there are many fish in the sea so I won't fret over this relationship too much.:cool:

[Eva]

We're about to have our 4th anniversary. I'm actually pretty glad I met my lovely Brazilian+Italian hubby when I did. He fed me too much meat and pasta, my ulcer flared up, I got gassy... discovered raw. (I thank his cooking for that. But If I were out dating now, I'd skip over him because he's not veggie!)

So, I went raw. Now I'm in much better health than even in my early 20s. He drinks green smoothies, supports me, does his own thing (especially when he is with his family in Brazil or wherever).

It's all good. I'm a big girl. He's a big boy.

I went through a phase where I was sure we would have to get a divorce because of him having what I saw as such different values. I thought -- "geez, when you learn what those poor animals go through, how can you still eat meat?!" -- but then I got over it. Not over the animals' struggles. Over wanting my values to be someone else's. You can't change someone else's view. You can only share (if you choose to) in love and then accept their individuality in love.

At least that's the way I see it. And when my troublemaking meat-eating husband is around, I am still giddy like when we were newlyweds. And he still looks at me like I'm the queen of (and really the only person in) his world. :D

[Irish_Vegan_Girl]

I think that everyone has a different path and you must let other's make decisions for theirs. I would not have a problem with a s/o eating meat or "SAD".


I wouldn't appreciate it if they tried to stop me from persuing my chosen lifestyle but I would expect a "live and let live" attitude.

It would be nice if they were into the health thing too but who am I to make their choices.

[Gaius]

For those who are married to a SAD eater and going to have kids, how do you decide what to feed the kids?

[Fee]

It isnt always please who are most similar in their food choices that accept what you want. I realised this the other day. My ex-husband was veggie (he was the one who persuaded me to go veggie) but when I went vegan he would either refuse to try my food or try them and say it was disgusting. My partner now is a meat eater and not a great lover of fruit and veg. He however is willing to try pretty much any thing I make that is raw and will even drink green smoothies. He loves my vegan cakes and raw desserts. He doesn't mind me not eating meat or fish and I have agreed to a once a month Indian takeaway if we can eat raw together on the other fridays in the month.

[mstrish]

My DH was a SAD eater and when I went raw 3/09 he swithched to 2 days cooked vegan and now 5 days a week cooked vegan. He loves what I prepare for my meals and usually eats it with me. If I was single I to would seek someone of like mind, but those men are slim pickins.

[RawHeaven]

I prefer to date vegan men because I have an extremely strong sense of smell and also due to....well I frankly have a hard time being around raw bloody meat and flesh that is being cooked. As a psychic I can see the death and torture in it...that the animal experienced. When someone eats meat, I smell them and it. When it's being released from the body, bodily fluids and pores it is not pleasant. Not to mention they also consume the death and torture energy and this can manifest in all sorts of interesting ways and impact mood levels. It's not just about the food, it's about energy. However I wouldn't rule it out if I fell in love with a non-raw man who rocks my world and I rock his. I would view it simply as another growth opportunity and to keep myself as open as I claim to be. But it would be challenging and I'm just being completely honest. I really cannot tolerate the meat thing. I'm single again. And I've put it out to the Universe that I would like to be with a Raw man with the next guy. And I fully expect to receive this precious gift when the season is here. In the meantime, I'm enjoying being raw and having fun.

Here are some other threads on this popular subject you might be able to pull interesting info from:

Raw Relationships
http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?t=50375&highlight=raw%2C+dating%2C

would you date a cooked meat eater?!
http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?t=47301&highlight=date

? Going raw in a relationship ?
http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?t=43137&highlight=relationship


Much peace.

[iwuvmydoggy]

thank you all for such interesting answers!!!

i totally understand those of you that are married to non-raw spouses. i think it's great that you guys are able to work that stuff out and you've found a happy medium that works for you! :) if i had years invested in my fella, i would likely do the same thing! (but i don't have anyone, so hey! lol)

RawHeaven - that was a really nice and well thought out response, so thank you! :) i'm sure you'll get just what you're hoping for! also, i can sympathize with the animal thing. the meat isle is my least favorite in the store & always has been.. it's very gloomy. i like the cooler temperature, but it's just really sad for me to sit around & think about how selfish people are being when there are plenty of alternatives to meat and stuff.. nothing has to die for you to fill your guts... and to me, personally, i find it really strange and barbaric to think about us being a civilized culture, when people are so primitive when it comes to food selection. nothing says barbarian quite like roasting dead animal. lol while i do have a thing for Asian guys, i wouldn't say that Genghis Khan was my ideal man, if you know what i'm saying!

and speaking of guys... one thing about raw guys.. age doesn't really matter, because raw guys look amazing, have amazing bodies, will live a lot longer, have a lot more energy and are just all around better! LOL so you can be dating a 50 year old guy that looks 30 when you're 25 & be perfectly happy. XD --- i haven't done that, but i have seen some guys that i was like "holy cow" & wouldn't mind trying (LOL!)... like that Robert Cassar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUIimYiMGaw) guy http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt213/patriotcz/popo_beauty.png http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt213/patriotcz/buttery-the_devil.jpg lol (although looks are not really that important to me.. i think we all look at people & have a "wow he/she is really attractive" moment once in a while!)

[RawYorkCity]

Sure it would be the icing on the raw cake if your significant other eats raw food, but I think finding someone who is supportive is most important. For example, my step-mom eats and cooks mostly vegan and my dad (who eats meat) has no problem eating out with her or eating her meals. She also only eats organic, so she won't eat somewhere that doesn't sell organic food. The number of raw foodies is limited, but the pool of supportive people is numerous.

[iwuvmydoggy]

Sure it would be the icing on the raw cake if your significant other eats raw food, but I think finding someone who is supportive is most important. For example, my step-mom eats and cooks mostly vegan and my dad (who eats meat) has no problem eating out with her or eating her meals. She also only eats organic, so she won't eat somewhere that doesn't sell organic food. The number of raw foodies is limited, but the pool of supportive people is numerous.

that's also true! :) good point!

[RawHeaven]

The number of raw foodies is limited, but the pool of supportive people is numerous.

totally hear what you're saying and i think what you've shared is beautiful. but it also depends where you live and what you're intending for yourself. there is an abundance of raw foodists and strong communities of raw folks in the san francisco bay area, southern calif and hawaii for example. even so...the supply can still be limited based on your beliefs and intentions. and even in places where there aren't many raw foodists, there is no reason why you cannot hook up with one unless you believe you cannot. i believe i can have it all...support and raw love...and so it will be so. :)



RawHeaven - that was a really nice and well thought out response, so thank you! :) i'm sure you'll get just what you're hoping for! also, i can sympathize with the animal thing. the meat isle is my least favorite in the store & always has been.. it's very gloomy. i like the cooler temperature, but it's just really sad for me to sit around & think about how selfish people are being when there are plenty of alternatives to meat and stuff..

Thank you so much and I totally feel you on what you've shared regarding animals & meat eating unconsciousness.




and speaking of guys... one thing about raw guys.. age doesn't really matter, because raw guys look amazing, have amazing bodies, will live a lot longer, have a lot more energy and are just all around better! LOL so you can be dating a 50 year old guy that looks 30 when you're 25 & be perfectly happy.

Same goes for us ladies. ;) I just turned 46 and got carded recently buying a lottery ticket. I thought the cashier was joking, but he was not. He asked me my secret - I just told him I eat lots of vegetables! haha. I generally only seem to attract men in their 20's/early 30's who are even more interested after I tell them my actual age. I always think they'll run for the hills, but it actually makes it worse! There are a lot of men who like older women I'm discovering. But I know what you mean...when you're Raw age is even moreso irrelevant. It's about exuding glowing health...and we seem to have that going on. Good luck to you too sweetheart!

[iwuvmydoggy]

[COLOR="navy"]Same goes for us ladies. ;) I just turned 46 and got carded recently buying a lottery ticket. I thought the cashier was joking, but he was not. He asked me my secret - I just told him I eat lots of vegetables! haha. I generally only seem to attract men in their 20's/early 30's who are even more interested after I tell them my actual age. I always think they'll run for the hills, but it actually makes it worse! There are a lot of men who like older women I'm discovering. But I know what you mean...when you're Raw age is even moreso irrelevant. It's about exuding glowing health...and we seem to have that going on. Good luck to you too sweetheart!

Oh for sure!!!! lol Raw women are positively pulchritudinous! they radiate beauty and youth like none other! i'm happy to hear that you got carded. lol :D that's awesome!.. or should i say rawsome? :D and kudos on bringing in the younguns ;) brings me joy thinking of the future. lol

[spicyfull]

EVA........ That is just RAWling. Another Woman I know put it as "He see ALL other Women as TREES". I am SO Happy he Lights up your Life.

[rkk]

Even though I love all the positive energy in this thread, I do suggest people be realistic.

Not every raw veggie guy you have chemistry with will be your knight-in-shining armor. I actually got back into raw foods because I briefly dated a man who was a raw vegan last year. He seemed perfect in every way (gorgeous, brilliant, cute quirks and similar views to me on many issues) and we had a very strong intellectual connection and interests. We'd talk for hours at a time, and have the same thoughts at the same time. I have never connected even remotely close with someone like this in my life. Nor had I ever been attracted to a man I dated until I met him. I completely let my guard down with him and within 3 weeks I started feeling that I may have found the one for me. I know a less than a month of talking is a very short time, but the connection was so strong, that I just felt it inside.

Unfortunately, once I reciprocated interest in him, he lost interest in me. He did a complete flip, and stopped pursuing me, and I was the one still asking him to give me a chance 2 months after he dropped me.... though I finally stopped after he told me to "Move on!" I guess he just pursued me initially because he was lonely and needed an ego boost... as he switched from seeing me as a potential spouse to seeing me as only an acquaintance. Let's just say that I was very crushed, as I didn't expect a precious spiritual raw vegan man to fiddle with my heart.

It makes me realize that just because you find another raw foodie, it doesn't meant they are completely in line with their own ideals. Many of them are just like us trying to figure out what works and what doesn't work in their lives. Many of them still have their own emotional baggage or negative personal habits, just like anyone else. Even though many of them are vegan and spiritually oriented... deep down, some still haven't given up their "player" tendencies. I don't want to be pessimistic at all, it's just that I am getting the feeling that some women here are so inclined to find a raw vegan man, that I don't want them to be swooning at the first attractive raw vegan man they find. Although I am still hoping to find a raw guy, I just wanted to remind people to approach relationships with a realistic mindset.

[contessa20]

For those who are married to a SAD eater and going to have kids, how do you decide what to feed the kids?

I feed my son a variety of fruits and vegetables but, he is 10 yrs. old and his own person. I allow him to make his own choices when it comes to meat and cooked foods vs. raw or even vegan foods. Again, I was a SAD eater for the majority of my son's life; my husband is still a SAD eater. My son gets to see both sides of the fence and make his how decision. Maybe when he's older he'll choose a raw and/or vegan lifestyle but for now, he's enjoying sampling all different kinds of foods and I'm okay with that.

[Soka]

My husband eats a SAD diet. I tried to get him to go vegetarian and even vegan, but he eventually chose to eat what he wanted. He supports my interest in wanting to go vegan again and hopefully raw. He even said he'd start eating more fruits and veggies.

We are both struggling to lose weight. I have 60lbs to lose. I am hoping that if I do go raw vegan and start to lose the weight, maybe he will see what good raw can do for the human body and give it a try. Who knows. I'm just happy to have someone as supportive as him. :)

And as far as having kids, we don't have any yet but we want to start a family soon. I'm not sure what we decided but I think we are going to raise our kids vegan (if I go vegan again), mostly if not all raw, and let them make their own decision when they are older and know where their food comes from.

[Eva]

EVA........ That is just RAWling. Another Woman I know put it as "He see ALL other Women as TREES". I am SO Happy he Lights up your Life.

:) Ha! That's what it feels like -- like trees, I like that. I think other women don't exist for him. Sometimes I think I must be the luckiest woman in the whole world. SO FUNNY to think that I almost wanted to divorce him because he didn't want to go vegan once I shared all the gross animal suffering info I found out about.

LOL. Everything is as it should be.

[RawHeaven]

Even though I love all the positive energy in this thread, I do suggest people be realistic.

Not every raw veggie guy you have chemistry with will be your knight-in-shining armor.

I agree with you...compatability is not necessarily guaranteed. Positive energy is amazing. Nobody said anything about a knight in shining armor. LOL! It's all about interdependent relationship connection baby. Coming together as two "whole" separate beings. Again no reason you can't have it all! Compatability, raw love, mutual respect and adoration, joy, bliss, peace, creation and anything else that you want to create for yourself. Woot. I appreciate your words and your sentiments. Much peace.


Oh for sure!!!! lol Raw women are positively pulchritudinous! they radiate beauty and youth like none other! i'm happy to hear that you got carded. lol :D that's awesome!.. or should i say rawsome? :D and kudos on bringing in the younguns ;) brings me joy thinking of the future. lol


You have a lot to look forward to...hang on for the ride! It just gets better! :D

[boocake]

Do any of you have significant others that are not on par with the raw thing? What's your advice or experience on that?

If you don't have a S/O, is a person's diet a make it or break it for you?
my b/f eats a pescatarian diet, however is supportive and open to my rawness and encourages my raw lifestyle. he's slowly becoming more and more interested in fruits/veggies due to my enthusiasm about raw, and is making much healthier choices with food. i don't push raw upon him or his lifestyle, and i don't demand/require that he change his eating habits to accomodate me.
mutual respect, communication, and acceptance work well for us, and i can honestly say that out of all the arguments we've had, never has food been the cause :D

as far as the 2nd quesetion, when i was single and dating, food was never a make it or break it issue for me. humor on the other hand..........;)