Women: What would you do if you found a lump?

[MrsJohnnyG]

in your breast, I mean. :D

I haven't been around in a while, but 2-3 weeks ago, I discovered a lump in my boobie that hadn't been there before. It seems to be at least 1" in diameter.

I am 37 (almost 38), and have never had the recommended "baseline" mammogram, nor do I intend to ever have a mammogram.

But, especially since I'd been on a SAD type diet for much of my life, obviously I'm concerned... especially since my friend who's my age was diagnosed with breast cancer two years ago (discovered herself, then confirmed with mammogram), went through traditional chemo + radiation, and is now declared to be cancer-free.

I already know that I would not want to go through chemo or radiation.

But what can I do (short of mammogram) to be diagnosed? I've been reading about thermography and may see if my insurance covers that as opposed to mammography. Any other ideas? Thanks in advance! :)

[Aleesha Sattva]

What would I do? I'd fast for at LEAST 90 days on green juices. I'd supplement that with spirulina, chlorella and wheat grass shots.

But just so you know... I don't do doctors... that doesn't mean you shouldn't.

[RawSar]

What would I do? I'd fast for at LEAST 90 days on green juices. I'd supplement that with spirulina, chlorella and wheat grass shots.


I agree. LOTS of green juice, wheatgrass, chlorella and spirulina!!
I'd see my doctor and naturopath very regularly (whatever they recommend) to monitor it and go from there.

[spicyfull]

I'd get a Sonagrahm or a Mammogram. I would want to know what I was fighting. After I know then I can use the right tools to fight it. I know you are afraid and concerned and I am giving you advice that I hope someone would give My Daughter. At least see a Doctor, have a Breast Exzam and see what they think you should do. It might be a fatty cyst but you need to Know.

[kaybee]

dont mammograms sometimes CAUSE the cancer to spread though because of the way it crushes breast tissue?

[sport]

I think that it is easy to be idealistic when it is someone else that is in trouble but when it comes down to matters of life and death you have to explore all avenues including the medical one.
I would do what everyone recommends and go on a crash cleanse but I would not ignore the other avenue because this is a decision that you will not get to make twice.

[Colorawdo girl]

Do what feels right for you to do. What your body wants. My initial thought was, what would I do? I def would cleanse as much as I could. I think I might embrace it and not fight it. I would work with my body to see what this is about and how to bring my body into balance.

It might be a visit to my naturopath. Even get some sort of diagnosis(if I could do that without living into that label) and then proceed in all natural measures to balance it all out.

It will be ok. We are here for you. Warm bear hugs to you.

[MrsJohnnyG]

Thank you for the replies... I am sitting here sipping my green smoothie and will more than likely do a cleanse/juice fast for as long as I can stand it... I generally don't do doctors either, but those of you who mentioned exploring every avenue have a good point... I think there are "Western medicine" methods of diagnosing though that don't involve a mammogram which I'm still pretty adamant that I won't do.

I figure that even if I don't get a "certified Western medical doctor" stamp declaring what I have or don't have, an extended juice fast obviously could only do a world of good either way.

Kaybee, yes, that's what I've read and just logically makes sense... I will not do mammo or biopsy for that reason.

Ugh. Like I have time to deal with this! Anyway, thank you for your input, everyone!! :)

[MrsJohnnyG]

Colorawdo girl, weirdly enough, I've never actually been to see a naturopath. It seems so logical but it hadn't even dawned on me yet. Off to look up some naturopaths in my area! Thank you!

[jgunn]

you can insist to have the lump biopsy'd without having the mamagram. the mamagram is unneeded if the doc can feel the lump he can biopsy it, no neeed to get crushed

personally i would get the biopsy done as mentioned above to see what im fighting

i had a lump once and it turned out to be a fatty cyst as mentioned above but i agonized for weeks about it , it was nice to know it was all OK

the only other lump ive found is the one in my bed but im keeping him for now as hes relatively harmless :P

[ruffsongraw]

hi,
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i found a suspicious lump about 8 yrs ago. i went to my Dr and she wanted IMMEDIATELY to biopsy it. i thought that was radical & went to a homeopathic *breast* Dr (in Madison Wisc) and he did a Thermographic picture.
he explained that when there is a tumor it makes heat and this type of picture (imagine a Mood Ring photographic image) shows heat. apparently this was going to be huge when it 1st came out b/c it can SHOW pain and SHOW tumors completely UN-invasively by heat imaging alone & it is supposed ot be FAR earlier detection than mammograms. but the Insurance companies had a fit b/c this was going to be able to PROVE in court that a person was in pain & hence personal injury case settlements would sky rocket. so they lobbied to poo-poo the whole thing & that worked. buh-bye.

anyhow...i digress...i would look on the net for a Dr certified in Thermographic Imagery.

that is what i would do...again. so many times its fibrous changes associated with hormones and/or caffeine and/or trauma.
AND i would do all the above with GS & cleansing!!

jen

[Ilse W.]

(Cancerous) lumps don't go from "not there" to "at least an inch across". Does it move around? I once had one of those show up from one day to the next. The nurse-practitioner I saw asked me, if I drink a lot of coffee. She said that caffeine can cause these types of lumps (they can be "moved" around with your fingers). I quit drinking coffee and a couple of days later the lump had disappeared. :D
As already stated, lots of greens, greens, greens!

[RaeVynn]

I had a lump, some years ago, and went to the doctor.

He explained that smooth, round lumps are fatty cysts, caused by things like caffeine (like EmmaT says). Generally, bad lumps start very small, are hard, and bumpy. They tend to be more uneven, and they don't move.

That said, if I found a lump today, I'd immediately start taking MMS daily, eat and drink nothing but fruit and fresh fruit juices, and maybe take a look at visiting the Gerson Institute. Oh, a naturapath might be a good idea, too...

I'm one of those that has never, and will NEVER, get a mammogram. An MRI can give you much, much better information, with much less damage to your cells.

[Colorawdo girl]

Mrs Johny G, I love my naturopath. She has assisted me the natural way for ten years now.
She knows my stand for nonmedical and she feels the same way. IF she saw a drastic need to get some test, it would be the minimalist test that can be given for said condition.

My daughter too had a fatty cyst or whatever. They simply kept their eye on it.

No worry. Worry make it worse. Wait until you know.The be proactive whatever it is. Meantime...green green green!!!!

[MrsJohnnyG]

(Cancerous) lumps don't go from "not there" to "at least an inch across". Does it move around? I once had one of those show up from one day to the next. The nurse-practitioner I saw asked me, if I drink a lot of coffee. She said that caffeine can cause these types of lumps (they can be "moved" around with your fingers). I quit drinking coffee and a couple of days later the lump had disappeared. :D
As already stated, lots of greens, greens, greens!
It does move around... and now that I'm groping myself :D, I think there's another small movey-aroundy-type one in the other breast... which I've heard makes it less likely to be the scary C word.

I cringe to confess this on a raw forum, but caffeine is my downfall. :( I know better... AND I even knew that caffeine can cause cysts etc. (my mother is a SAD-addicted caffeine junkie, and has had various fibroids etc. as a result -- none cancerous). I bet that's absolutely it. All the more reason I NEEEEED to dump the caffeine habit once and for all, and go COMPLETELY raw again!!

went to a homeopathic *breast* Dr (in Madison Wisc) and he did a Thermographic picture. he explained that when there is a tumor it makes heat and this type of picture (imagine a Mood Ring photographic image) shows heat. apparently this was going to be huge when it 1st came out b/c it can SHOW pain and SHOW tumors completely UN-invasively by heat imaging alone & it is supposed to be FAR earlier detection than mammograms.
That confirms exactly what I'd researched about thermography -- even if I have to pay every penny out of pocket, I am going to find someone here who can do that!


That said, if I found a lump today, I'd immediately start taking MMS daily, eat and drink nothing but fruit and fresh fruit juices, and maybe take a look at visiting the Gerson Institute. Oh, a naturapath might be a good idea, too...
This is exactly going to be my plan of action! Need to look into the Gerson Institute.... thank you again EVERYONE for your great suggestions and info!!!

[Raw Angel Mom]

I would do a fast and fast. Also positive affirmation to my body. "Thank you for healing" and at some point "thank you for my perfect health"

p.s Do no block the pore under your arm pit with anti perspirant or anti sudorifique. The toxin needs to come out otherwise i read that it cans get stuck in the breast area. Before raw food, i would use an organic vanilla lotion to neutralize the odor. Now with raw food, i don't need anything anymore and there isn't any odor.

[MrsJohnnyG]

p.s Do no block the pore under your arm pit with anti perspirant or anti sudorifique. The toxin needs to come out otherwise i read that it cans get stuck in the breast area. Before raw food, i would use an organic vanilla lotion to neutralize the odor. Now with raw food, i don't need anything anymore and there isn't any odor.
That's interesting... I hardly ever use deodorant any more and haven't used any with aluminum since I was in high school... even back then, although I wasn't raw, I knew better than to pollute my body with chemicals.

[Ilse W.]

Isn't this forum great!!!

The last time I quit coffee, I first switched to black tea, then flavored green tea, and then quit altogether. It was easier that way, especially since I didn't really like the taste of tea so I didn't mind tapering off and giving it up after a couple of weeks. It spared me the caffeine headaches, though.

[sprouts2go]

Breast can have an assortment of lumps and bumps that are not cancer. Your regular doctor can check it and tell you if it is nothing to worrry about. Why stress when you don't have to?
Fibroadenomas, Fibrocystic breasts, Cysts. Monthly lumps and bumps from your bodies homrones along with the coffee causing enlargements.
Though the normal outways the cancerous it is still a concern and I would want the stress relieved from my mind ASAP!
I am a normally lumpy breasted person but they seem to have left with my raw. Hmmmm

[pixie_333]

i'd see a doctor to get it checked out. however those aren't always reliable.. cancer can hide well. and just by getting checked out doesn't mean you have to take further action. if it's small they can cut it out.
i'm against doctors myself except with few things.

or if you know of a great healer it is possiable for a healer to rid it. i actualy healed my moms breast cancer about 4 years ago. she got it for the 2nd time. all the proof was in multiple tests from the doctors.. i did a healing and she went back and doctors were stunned it was gone and she's had another check up and still gone same with the pain etc.
i don't do healings for others health anymore. i'm too prone to take on energies and i always have to call my healer to rid it on me. pfft.

there always is mind over matter. i happen to feel breast cancer is related to unresolved issues from childhood. my opinion. but this doesn't mean everyone will get breast cancer from unresolved issues.

[pixie_333]

ps
i can't take all the credit... if my mom didn't want healed then it wouldn't of happened. i engaged into/with her energies to heal. same goes with every healer and healee... if you don't want healed nothing will work. and many people say they do yet stop energy flows. sometimes things aren't meant to be healed...

[iwuvmydoggy]

what would you guys do if it actually WAS cancer? would you take the chemo or what?

also, what is MMS?
That said, if I found a lump today, I'd immediately start taking MMS daily, eat and drink nothing but fruit and fresh fruit juices, and maybe take a look at visiting the Gerson Institute. Oh, a naturapath might be a good idea, too...

and why the gerson institute as opposed to the hypocrites health institute or some other similar facility? (just curious)

[Sugar Snap Pea]

MrsJohnnyG, At least see a Doctor. Tell him your concerns about Mammo. Ultrasound is probably an option. Don't wait around thinking about this. I want to see you live a long and happy life!! I know you don't like western medicine, but sometimes you need a little help from the other side. I was an Oncology Certified Nurse, and I have to agree, chemo and radiation are the pits!! BUT... one of the more survivable cancers this day and age is breast cancer. See an MD, and then you'll have all your options out on the table. And I agree with Gerson Clinic. Not sure what I'd do if faced with cancer today.
I actually am a cancer survivor! Melanoma, diagnosed back in the day, when I was 40. I was so scared!! As a nurse, melanoma was the cancer I had always feared, since it was so aggresive. And then I was diagnosed with it!! Long story short, I had a surgical wide excision, and thank God it didn't spread!! So 12 years later, I'm still here to tell the story!
...And by the way, I am 100% for a surgical cure!! If that's an option. I'm not telling you what to do, but cancer is nothing to mess around with! Good luck to you!! :)

[Sugar Snap Pea]

Oh! I see this thread is almost a month old!! So... What ever happened MrsJohnnyG?

[Dimond]

what would you guys do if it actually WAS cancer? would you take the chemo or what? Seriously doubt I would ever do chemo or any other medical procedure or medicine. Having spent my whole life with immune system issues, doctors, meds, etc., I don't want to ever undo my healthy progress.

[LilacLavender]

Pixie, what sort of healing do you do....reiki? I have heard amazing stories about things like that but never seen an actual case of someone who genuinely could do it.

[pixie_333]

Pixie, what sort of healing do you do....reiki? I have heard amazing stories about things like that but never seen an actual case of someone who genuinely could do it.

no i don't do reiki.

we all are healers. perhaps learning the basics of some things from some others can help give us a head start to tap into our own natural abilities when we aren't tapped into our sub-councious so much. but again... we all are healers.

* i edited... :)

[LilacLavender]

no i don't do reiki.

we all are healers. perhaps learning the basics of some things from some others can help give us a head start to tap into our own natural abilities when we aren't tapped into our sub-councious so much. but again... we all are healers.

* i edited... :)

I am curious about what process you used to develop your skills. I don't know anyone who has genuinely had success with this. I know many who have claimed that they could but couldn't prove it.

[Anastazia]

I was diagnosed with inflammatory breast cancer awhile back (the aggressive, more serious kind, where less than 50% survive, even with surgery, chemo, & radiation...NONE used to survive without it, or with it done in the other order, I was told...)
...I panicked, started out going the medical route, but stopped when my faith arose, & finally prayed, & was totally & completely healed...which was then proven by the mammograms & biposies I foolishly submitted to, under pressure, even though I KNEW I was healed...though I'm glad I did, they confirmed it had definately been there, & was now gone! There were signs of serious inflammation that had just dissapeared, & all the symptoms dissapeared...& I definately had it. I regret, most of all, all the mammograms I allowed them to take, they kept messing up, taking more & more, waaaaaay too many! I was really mad about it afterwards...took a long while to forgive...{them & myself.}

I'm in the process of getting a letter from my Doctor confirming my diagnosis & healing.

If it happened again, I would ONLY fast, juice, & most importantly, pray, & trust my life, health & future into God's capable hands! Jesus ain't called the great physician for nothin'!
But that's just me, & where I'm at now...
~Anastazia~

[pixie_333]

I am curious about what process you used to develop your skills. I don't know anyone who has genuinely had success with this. I know many who have claimed that they could but couldn't prove it.

sweetie... i wouldn't know how to explain it to you other than it's the light that heals. love, light and the energy in this form.
we are all of light.. at least many parts of ourselves are, but our soul being is pure light.
there isn't much of a process other than trusting the light. and as we go through life we have more experiences to go by/ on etc. again... we all are healers and have these abilities within us and in one degree or another have used it many times without realising. it's just on earth being in the 3d world etc can be more challenging to remember who we are.

and noone can be healed of something unless they want to be. not even the best healer can do it. it's the universal law.
mind over matter??? ~ if someone believes chocolate will heal them then it very well may. negative thought forms could break it.
some may claim it was jesus, god or their healer that healed them... when in fact i believe it wasn't... it was not only themselves, but the energy of light flowed between the source. humans are sometimes vessels of this energy. just direct it.

people help heal plants all the time. that's some proof.

i haven't studied quatam physics, but hear there are many answers there.

btw.. some hospitals have healers there now. i know in chicago they do. it's part of the holistic program and their smarts since many people are going to healers now and hospitals won't lose as much money.

[iwuvmydoggy]

I was diagnosed with inflammatory breast cancer awhile back (the aggressive, more serious kind, where less than 50% survive, even with surgery, chemo, & radiation...NONE used to survive without it, or with it done in the other order, I was told...)
...I panicked, started out going the medical route, but stopped when my faith arose, & finally prayed, & was totally & completely healed...which was then proven by the mammograms & biposies I foolishly submitted to, under pressure, even though I KNEW I was healed...though I'm glad I did, they confirmed it had definately been there, & was now gone! There were signs of serious inflammation that had just dissapeared, & all the symptoms dissapeared...& I definately had it. I regret, most of all, all the mammograms I allowed them to take, they kept messing up, taking more & more, waaaaaay too many! I was really mad about it afterwards...took a long while to forgive...{them & myself.}

I'm in the process of getting a letter from my Doctor confirming my diagnosis & healing.

If it happened again, I would ONLY fast, juice, & most importantly, pray, & trust my life, health & future into God's capable hands! Jesus ain't called the great physician for nothin'!
But that's just me, & where I'm at now...
~Anastazia~

what's the difference if you fast on fruit or vegetable juice? which one would be better?

thank you for your reply! and that's awesome that you got healed! :D

[LilacLavender]

Probably vegetables. The experts tend to disagree on this, but the 80-10-10 people who run the Hippocrates Institute with an 80% success rate of curing cancer and chronic illness put their people on a no-fruit raw foods regime. They say cancer cells can too easily feed off of the sugars in fruit.

[LilacLavender]

sweetie... i wouldn't know how to explain it to you other than it's the light that heals. love, light and the energy in this form.
we are all of light.. at least many parts of ourselves are, but our soul being is pure light.
there isn't much of a process other than trusting the light. and as we go through life we have more experiences to go by/ on etc. again... we all are healers and have these abilities within us and in one degree or another have used it many times without realising. it's just on earth being in the 3d world etc can be more challenging to remember who we are.

and noone can be healed of something unless they want to be. not even the best healer can do it. it's the universal law.
mind over matter??? ~ if someone believes chocolate will heal them then it very well may. negative thought forms could break it.
some may claim it was jesus, god or their healer that healed them... when in fact i believe it wasn't... it was not only themselves, but the energy of light flowed between the source. humans are sometimes vessels of this energy. just direct it.

people help heal plants all the time. that's some proof.

i haven't studied quatam physics, but hear there are many answers there.

btw.. some hospitals have healers there now. i know in chicago they do. it's part of the holistic program and their smarts since many people are going to healers now and hospitals won't lose as much money.

That's really interesting about the hospitals. I just was curious also how you got into healing and if there was anything you did to strengthen your ability.

I know they have reiki people in some hospitals these days; I'd heard about that...I'm sure there are so many other forms of healing as well. I have heard of success stories through a variety of techniques leading me to belive that it's probably the same energy being manipulated via different techniques.

I've heard both ways on quantum physics...that it proves or disproves the notion of energy healing. I guess one day I'll have to study it and form my own opinion!

[Dimond]

Yes, definitely green juices for healing cancer & very low sugar. Also stay away from nightshades.

Learning to send positive messages to your subconscious, along with other methods is very powerful and can make a huge difference in recovering from any illness. Have a couple of different articles discussing this:
http://dimondhealth.com/EmpoweredLiving.htm

[LilacLavender]

Thanks for the link.