Why didn't anyone tell me????

[gabriele]

I just read an unbelievable article!! (meatfreezone.org)

The only thing preventing me from a nice, raw, vegan lifestyle is my insatiable, heroin-like craving for chocolate. When i was 2 years old my German grandmother came running into my room and stuffed chocolate into my mouth whenever i cried. Fifty three years later i am totally and completely addicted to the finest chocolate money can buy.

So i'm reading that cow's milk (chocolate) contains MORPHINE, and not morphine from what you are thinking, NOT from their diets, but internally-produced morphine, produced in their cells, much like poppy plants produce it, and the little baby cows drink this milk and it has a drug-like, calming effect on them, they drink more, they get sleepy and happy (sounds just like me). Nature's drug!! Furthermore, the CASEIN that we all know is in milk breaks down into segments called casomorphins, just one segment of which is as strong as 1/10 of regular morphine. And to make matters even worse, there is also something called PEA in chocolate (cow's milk) that resembles amphetamines!!! Yikes!!!

I'm happy that there is finally a logical reason why i crave this stuff so much. There is an actual drug in it. I can live without milk, cheese, meat, yogurt, all of that, but this explains my obsession with chocolate. Just makes me feel better to know what i am fighting with here.

[ViolinCyndee]

Wow that's interesting!! But all of those things aren't in raw cacao or nibs, right? So we can still have chocolate..

[Colorawdo girl]

Wow good research on that one. Raw chocolate is super yum and can be made with almond mylk.....and it makes man very happy too. Thankx for post!!!

[somelikeitraw]

I read an article about raw cacao/chocolate that has me off of it, and that was difficult as I was definitely addicted. I am hoping that raw carob will work instead.

Here's the link http://www.living-foods.com/articles/cacao.html
Do with it what you will.

[gabriele]

well, i just read that article about cacao beans being very unhealthy......i am convinced. I've read about those ingredients before. One more reason to kick this habit. Maybe i need rehab. :(((

[Moretta]

I sometimes use raw carob as a treat.

[RaeVynn]

I think that the moderate use of a little bit of raw cacao is okay for me.. YMMV.
And, that's the key... we are all different.
No, I wouldn't use it daily. I don't eat anything, really, on a daily basis. I like to keep a bit of rotation going, as that seems more 'natural' to me.

I totally agree on the addictive, drug-like effects of cow milk. Cheese has it concentrated! I went off dairy a few years ago, and the health benefits were amazing!
(on the other hand, last week I had several meals with some dairy in them, and I feel like CRAP. I'm hoping to get over this soon)

[gabriele]

i just feel kind of liberated, because all this time i felt like i had no willpower (which i normally do) but couldn't figure out why, and was beating myself up about it. Now i can at least think maybe it has to do with a sensitivity if not addiction to the substances in chocolate (milk). I am extremely sensitive to caffeine also. So this makes me feel better!!

i have a big white hunk of raw cacao butter and don't have a clue what to do with it!!!

help!!

[Veronica01]

cacao beans are in the same family as coffee beans... both are toxic and have addictive properties. Thats why theyre roasted to be more digestable and make our bodies think they're just a regular cooked food toxin instead of what they really are.

Have you ever noticed how fiercly people will defend, sneak, indulge, promote chocolate? Really it cant be a good thing for people to be that crazy over it. I switched to carob if i want something chocolate like and stay off chocolate. I used to go through phases where every day i would feel i needed chocolate (i only ever ate dark, never milk chocolate) and u would always crave more, just one more piece etc. I am far better off without it.

[Myca]

Wow, blessings from God. How cool is that!
Thanks for sharing, :)

[gabriele]

I mean, who knew about morphine in chocolate? Veronica, you are right, it can't be healthy, and i am highly addicted to it, either physically or psychologically, or both. I cannot for the life of me eat "a little", i eat it all day long, just like an addict would do.

So......i just have to go cold turkey (tofu). I just have to stay away completely. I feel better knowing there is at least some explanation for why this has such an effect on people.

[pixie_333]

the fda allows 60 insect fragments and one rodems in a 3.5 oz serving of chocolate.
i heard organic chocolate is stricter but still allows 10% or so to be insects n a serving.

[RawNorwegian]

NOOOOO!!! :eek:


why.. WHY!?!?! :(

[Revvell]

So i'm reading that cow's milk (chocolate) contains MORPHINE,

Wait a minute! Cows give chocolate milk? since when??? :confused:

[RaeVynn]

Wait a minute! Cows give chocolate milk? since when??? :confused:

The Brown Swiss cows, Rev... those are the ones that Swiss Miss uses :p

[Revvell]

The Brown Swiss cows, Rev... those are the ones that Swiss Miss uses :p

Ohhhh! *shakes head* Why didn't someone tell me this before??? :confused:

[Mary Kay]

RaeVyn.....ROFL my butt off, which you must be doing too, as I see you've lost 50 lbs. You go girl!

Mary Kay

[symeonsam]

I mean, who knew about morphine in chocolate? Veronica, you are right, it can't be healthy, and i am highly addicted to it, either physically or psychologically, or both. I cannot for the life of me eat "a little", i eat it all day long, just like an addict would do.

So......i just have to go cold turkey (tofu). I just have to stay away completely. I feel better knowing there is at least some explanation for why this has such an effect on people.
Gaby,

Actually, it's not morphine, but opiate like chemicals. Cheese also has these same chemicals but more concentrated, due to the evaperation of water from the milk. So you get that same opiate effect by eating a piece of cheese as you do eating a piece of milk chocolate. Why do you think they like to give warm milk to kids that can't sleep? They are just doping them up.

[gabriele]

Gaby,

Actually, it's not morphine, but opiate like chemicals. .

It might as well be heroin for how addictive it is to me. :(

[Tirza]

I too am a self-confessed chocaholic.
After seeing how much rodent material is allowed I was rather slowed down, but it's amazing how you can block that kind of thing out. Same with meat and dairy. I actually like the taste of it despite all I know about it. I just need to think of those facts when tempted and it goes far away.

My other thing is that I have cancer and have been told that I MUST stay off all animal products and sugar - which includes fruit!!! That is a hard thing. I LOVE fruit - I can make a mono-meal out of it easily - which apparently proves that I am addicted to sugar - which feeds the cancer! So I've been thinking of what I could use for desserts and treats that can be made with Stevia. (Is that okay?) Of course chocolate immediately comes to mind, but then so do rodent hairs and feces.

So I am now thinking about lemon juice, stevia and chia as a pudding/pie filling. Also pumpkin/sweet potato/squash pie with stevia and spices, and maybe some cookies or cake things made with nuts and no dried fruit. The thing is, I hardly ever make desserts, but hubby loves them and he can eat fruit...and loves chocolate - but bless him, he is so willing to go this way, and even to adapt to my restrictions so I am not so tempted.

[Mary Kay]

Tirza,

Just curious about some things, if you don't mind: What's your pH like - have you been measuring it - your second urine of the day?

How about a pregnancy test? Have you done one? Even males with cancer will often test positive, because cancer cells coat themselves with HCG - to "cloak" themselves/hide. Taking enteric-coated digestive enzymes, gets the enzymes into your gut, then bloodstream -and can actually help destroy the coating, which is protein based.

And I had fibrocystic breasts for years and years, was always very stressed, and had high cortisol, no doubt, which destroys your ability to absorb progesterone...I digress, sorry, but I had to really watch my intake of chocolate and rarely drank coffee --even decaff, as all of them contain caffeine, which also contributes to the cortisol thing, but besides that, they all contain methylxanthenes, which are cyst-promoting----so this is another reason to shy away from the chocolate - well to avoid it if you have cancer. Wordy....sorry, HTH,

Mary Kay

[Tirza]

Mary Kay,
Do you know, I have never heard of any of this except taking PH readings - which I did for awhile and then stopped. I will now start taking it again.
Very interesting! Thank you for this post.