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RawSar
05-12-2009, 09:18 PM
Read an interesting article from Dr Mercola.
Just thought I'd share for those of you who don't get his emails and see what everyone thought.
Dr. Mercola's Comments:

At this point, you’re probably wondering how exposure to sunshine could possibly decrease your vitamin D levels... If you’re a regular reader of this newsletter, you know I’ve made it a point to educate you on the incredible value of safe sun exposure to increase your vitamin D levels



I have regularly stated that the ideal way to obtain your vitamin D is from safe exposure to sunshine As it turns out, there is a major caveat, which affects nearly anyone living in a modern day civilization.



But first, I want to review something that’s even more surprising – the connection between exposure to sunshine, vitamin D3, and showering!



What Does Showering Have to Do With Your Vitamin D Levels?



First, it’s important to understand that vitamin D3 is an oil soluble steroid hormone. It’s formed when your skin is exposed to ultraviolet B (UVB) radiation from the sun (or a safe tanning bed). When UVB strikes the surface of your skin, your skin converts a cholesterol derivative in your skin into vitamin D3.



However, the vitamin D3 that is formed is on the surface of your skin does not immediately penetrate into your bloodstream. It actually needs to be absorbed from the surface of your skin into your bloodstream.



The critical question then is: how long does it take the vitamin D3 to penetrate your skin and reach your bloodstream?



If you’re thinking about an hour or two, like I did until recently, you’re wrong. Because new evidence shows it takes up to 48 hours before you absorb the majority of the vitamin D that was generated by exposing your skin to the sun!



Therefore, if you shower with soap, you will simply wash away much of the vitamin D3 your skin generated, and decrease the benefits of your sun exposure. So to optimize your vitamin D level, you need to delay washing your body with soap for about two full days after sun exposure.



Now not many people are not going to bathe for two full days.



However you really only need to use soap underneath your arms and your groin area. , so this is not a major hygiene issue. You’ll just want to avoid soaping up the larger areas of your body that were exposed to the sun.
Other Reasons to Avoid the Shower



Avoiding the shower can also benefit your health in a number of other ways, because unless you have well water, you’re showering in water from a municipal water supply that is loaded with chlorine,fluoride, disinfection by products, and pharmaceutical drugs that have made their way into the sewer system.



Chlorine, although it’s best avoided as much as possible, is actually not the major issue. The biggest danger comes from the byproducts created when chlorine combines with organic material in the water.



These disinfection byproducts (DBPs), such as trihalomethanes (THMs) and haloacetic acids (HAAs) are EXTREMELY toxic. Some experts believe them to be over 10,000 times more toxic than chlorine. They’re so dangerous, in fact, that the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) sets the goal limit for some of them at zero. Unfortunately, it’s impossible to enforce, which means you always have some in your municipal water supply.


DBPs have been linked to reproductive problems in both animals and humans, and human studies suggest that lifetime consumption of chlorine-treated water can more than double the risk of bladder and rectal cancers in certain individuals.

Unfortunately, studies have shown DBPs may wreak even more havoc when they’re absorbed through your skin. For example, one study published in the Journal of Environmental Sciences last year found that swimming in a chlorinated pool presented an unacceptable cancer risk.


You can easily absorb as many DBP toxins in one shower as you would by drinking tap water all week long, so the less time you spend in the shower, the better.



So, How Exactly Does Sunshine Lower Your Vitamin D Levels?



First, there’s an important distinction that must be made. There are two primary forms of ultraviolet radiation from the sun: UVA, and UVB, and they have different wave lengths and impact your body in different ways.



UVA has a wavelength of about 320 to 400 nanometers, and UVB has a wave length of about 280 to 320 nanometers.( A wavelength is simply the distance a wave has to travel before it starts repeating itself, and a nanometer is a millionth of a meter.)



Because the UVA has a longer wavelength, it penetrates materials more easily, such as the earth’s atmosphere and window glass.



Most of us living in contemporary culture are modern day cavemen. We work inside and don’t spend much time outdoors. It really wasn’t until the industrial revolution that we had the development of mass produced windows. Prior to that time, windows were very costly and only the very wealthy could afford them. So people working indoors were not exposed to sunlight filtered through window glass.



The key point here is that window glass will effectively filter out the majority of UVB radiation, but it minimally filters out UVAs.



What’s the significance of that, you ask?



It’s important to realize that vitamin D3 is formed from exposure to UVB rays, whereas UVA radiation actually destroys vitamin D.



This helps keep your body in balance; it’s one of the protective mechanisms your body has to avoid overdosing on vitamin D when you’re outside. However, when you’re exposed to sunlight through windows -- in your office, your home or your car -- you get the UVA but virtually none of the beneficial UVB.



This can lead to significant health problems, because in addition to destroying vitamin D3, UVA’s also increase oxidative stress.



UVA is one of the primary culprits behind skin cancer, and it increases photo aging of your skin. It’s also what causes you to tan. You can actually get vitamin D without significantly darkening your skin, because the UVB wavelength does not stimulate the melanin pigment to produce a tan.



Normally, of course, when you get tanned from outdoor sun exposure you’re getting both UVA and UVB at the same time, so it’s not a problem. But when you are indoors and expose yourself to sunlight filtered through window glass, you are increasing your risk of a variety of conditions, primarily skin cancer, because the UVA’s are effectively destroying your vitamin D3 levels while you’re getting none of the benefits from UVB.

RawSar
05-12-2009, 09:18 PM
Anecdotal Evidence of How Vitamin D Can Benefit Your Skin



I recently received an interesting anecdote from Dr. Leonard Smith, a very prominent integrative medicine physician from southern Florida, who is now in his mid-60s.



He’d been an avid windsurfer for years, but suddenly noticed his vitamin D levels were low. So he took 5,000 units of oral vitamin D for awhile, but after several months his levels had only increased to about 31 ng/ml. He increased his dose to 10,000 units, and after a few months his levels were up to 50 ng/ml.



Interestingly, once he increased his vitamin D levels, a variety of skin conditions he’d acquired, such as moles and basal (cancer) cells in his skin, decreased substantially.



So clearly, vitamin D can be very powerful against a number of skin problems, including skin cancer.



The Connection Between Cholesterol and Healthy Vitamin D Levels



As I said earlier, one of the precursors for vitamin D is cholesterol. So if you’re taking drugs statin drugs, or proton pump inhibitors like Prilosec or Prevocid, which are typically used to treat ulcer conditions, you’ll naturally lower your cholesterol levels.



This in turn will decrease your body’s ability to manufacture vitamin D.



This is yet another potential reason your vitamin D levels may be low, or why you may have trouble optimizing your vitamin D levels.



Key Messages



It may seem confusing, and admittedly there are a lot of pieces to this puzzle, which is why I seek to share as much of this information as possible.



But the key take-home points here are:



* To optimize your vitamin D levels, get safe outdoor sun exposure or use a safe tanning bed, being careful not to get sunburned.

If for whatever reason you’re unable to do that, then clearly you’re going to want to use an oral or sublingual vitamin D3, which can also eliminate the whole issue of absorbing the vitamin D3 from your skin. However, beware that anytime you use oral vitamin D you’ll want to get your vitamin D levels checked regularly, using a qualified lab such as LabCorp, to make sure you’re within the optimal range and to avoid overdosing.



* If you’re going to shower after spending time outdoors in the sun, don’t use soap for at least two days, to maximize the absorption of vitamin D in your skin.



The benefits of vitamin D are staggering, and the optimal way to get your vitamin D is through safe exposure to the sun. I’ve written extensively on this topic over the past year, but if you need to refresh your memory, please review the related articles listed below. It is worth the extra effort to apply this information so you and your family can get all the vitamin D benefits they deserve.



So remember, making sure you’re spending plenty of time outdoors this summer can help you reap the incredible health benefits of this essential nutrient.

EZ rider
05-12-2009, 10:12 PM
RawSar -- good article. Thanks for posting it.

Looks like people who ride bikes get more UVB then those who ride around in cars.

spicyfull
05-13-2009, 05:19 AM
Thanks for Sharing.

Raw Angel Mom
05-13-2009, 08:02 AM
Interesting, thank you for sharing.

Dr. Oz will have his own show on September 14th. He seems to be open mind with alternate medecine.

Great article
Thank you!

Eva
05-13-2009, 08:30 AM
Funny -- I hardly use much soap anymore anyways since raw food has turned my skin into naturally soft and odor free. (I DO soap up my feet and under my arms, just in case!) I just dry skin brush and then shower. I wonder if dry skin brushing would affect the D3 levels?

Thanks for posting this article. It's interesting and makes perfect sense.

Rawcstacy
03-24-2010, 12:25 PM
While I respect Dr. Mercola a lot, it has been shown that there's negligible Vitamin D in the Epidermal skin layer that can be rinsed off. I also don't use soap, anyhow.

christinajade
03-24-2010, 02:17 PM
I love Dr. Mercola's knowledge and research. That being said, just like everything else we read. It doesn't necessarily mean its the absolute truth. I'm not saying I don't agree, I just know that things and research change all the time.:rolleyes: There does seem to be people like in FL for instance that are in way better moods in the more sunnier and warmer parts. I always wonder if its the extra vitamin D that they are getting due to being able to be out pretty much all year long compared to someone that lives in an "4 season" place. I also know that not all those happy people are not using soap or following Dr. Mercola's and other people's guidelines for the "no showering" method. I think everyone is different and some people can receive vitamin D better than others. Just my 2 cents!;)

Rawcstacy
03-24-2010, 02:37 PM
I'm only critiquing the washing off of Vitamin D. I most certainly agree that people in tropical or sub-tropical regions like I stay are in way better moods than you cranky:p folks in the temperate and polar regions.

As an aside I was wondering earlier "what happened to my sparring partner". I thought for sure you'd head straight for the natural living section to post in the latest thread;).

christinajade
03-24-2010, 11:41 PM
Are you talking about me Rawcstacy?:)

Rawcstacy
03-25-2010, 12:30 AM
Are you talking about me Rawcstacy?:)

I'll never tell... (naughty little devil smiley here)

DebB
03-25-2010, 12:38 AM
Well, I had a doctor appointment today and my Vitamin D was low at 59 and he likes it to be 70-100. He said to take 6000 IU of D and that's what I'm taking (I had to check after I got home). So, I'll call his office and see what he recommends now. But I'll be getting more sunshine now with the warmer weather..

Rawcstacy
03-25-2010, 01:06 AM
Well, I had a doctor appointment today and my Vitamin D was low at 59 and he likes it to be 70-100. He said to take 6000 IU of D and that's what I'm taking (I had to check after I got home). So, I'll call his office and see what he recommends now. But I'll be getting more sunshine now with the warmer weather..

70-100 ng/ml ? or 70-100 nmol/L ? If 70-100 ng/ml = 175-250 nmol/L, then it's spot on. If 28-40 ng/ml = 70-100 nmol/L, then this is the amount needed just to prevent rickets, far from optimal. 6000 IU is good initially then repeat the blood test after 3 months. How long have you been taking it?
Oh yes, also make very sure it's the 25 hydroxy d or 25OHD level NOT - 1,25 Dihydroxy or 1,25(OH)(2)D level. Most doctors order the latter.

DebB
03-25-2010, 01:13 AM
70-100 ng/ml ? or 70-100 nmol/L ? If 70-100 ng/ml = 175-250 nmol/L, then it's spot on. If 28-40 ng/ml = 70-100 nmol/L, then this is the amount needed just to prevent rickets, far from optimal. 6000 IU is good initially then repeat the blood test after 3 months. How long have you been taking it?

He recommends 70-100 ng/mL. I've been taking Vitamin D for about 4 years. I back down a bit in the summer, down to 4000 IU.

He wants me to have another blood draw in 3 months for Vitamin D and also another hormone panel done.

Rawcstacy
03-25-2010, 04:28 AM
He recommends 70-100 ng/mL. I've been taking Vitamin D for about 4 years. I back down a bit in the summer, down to 4000 IU.

He wants me to have another blood draw in 3 months for Vitamin D and also another hormone panel done.

You are most fortunate to have this doctor. Is he a naturopath or just a regular physician that's incredibly enlightened like Mercola?

christinajade
03-25-2010, 08:07 AM
I used to cover up and wear :eek: sunscreen for years. Although I'm sure it helped keep me from getting wrinkles and stuff I know now that I needed some vitamin D. So what I have started doing was showering in the morning, putting a natural mineral sunscreen on my face, neck and chest as well as my tattoo...Sorry...lets not go there with the whole tattoo thing, k? :D:rolleyes: Anyway...I don't use sunscreen anywhere else. Put on a bikini and lay out in the sun for equal amounts from front to back. I alway track my time because I know I really only need about 15 to 20 max. So, I might get a little color, which is great but I'm not a sun "baker" like many people I've seen. I still want to preserve my skin and also get my vitamin D levels. Unfortunately I'm going to be low in the winter so I'm hoping my move to San Diego will help that! Oh yeah, even though I have sunscreen on my face and chest, I still put a towel over that area. Trying to stay young, ya know?;)

Rawcstacy
03-25-2010, 08:50 AM
Trying to stay young, ya know?;)

Aren't we all?:D Well, maybe not the SAD dieters.:p

DebB
03-25-2010, 09:33 AM
I love this doctor - he's a holistic MD and yes, he reminds me so much of Dr. Mercola. There are some things they differ on (like 'Eat Right For Your Type') - but I feel very blessed having him for my Dr. *Ü*

TaupeRawMan
03-25-2010, 12:21 PM
Hi DebB -

that 4000iu is daily, right?

Rawcstacy
03-25-2010, 12:56 PM
Hi DebB -

that 4000iu is daily, right?

Hope Deb won't mind :), YES, these are DAILY dosages. Therapeutic daily doses can go as high as 100000IU (this would be for someone WITH rickets) for a few weeks only.

DebB
03-25-2010, 02:32 PM
Nope, I don't mind Rawcstacy :)

And yes - that's a daily doseage. I'm currently on 6000IU daily (I take Carlson brand). But - he also said it definitely depends on how much sunshine you get each day.

He's had my husband on the 10,000IU to try and raise his level, but it didn't raise it... (shrug?) *Ü*

lovenlife
03-25-2010, 04:55 PM
What is a safe level for a person who appears to have no sickness or disease just wanting to make sure they get enough?

Oh and craves sunshine and instantly gets happy when it arrives?

DebB
03-25-2010, 07:54 PM
Hi lovenlife ~ To be sure, there's a blood test for it. I don't know of another way to tell what your level is without a blood test... *Ü*

Rawcstacy
03-26-2010, 04:52 AM
What is a safe level for a person who appears to have no sickness or disease just wanting to make sure they get enough?

Oh and craves sunshine and instantly gets happy when it arrives?

You can safely take 10000 IU per day. There's probably no need to go higher than this unless you are severely deficient. I would highly recommend you get your blood tested first for 25 hydroxy d to establish your baseline level. If you can't do it right away it's still OK to start taking Vitamin D. Start with 4000 IU/day if Summer, 6000 IU/day if Winter.