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Colorawdo girl
05-01-2009, 06:43 AM
Came across page posted by Shazzie.

Worth sharing. Similar to the way I feel about it.


You swines — pigs fly
By Doxtor

Swine flu panic has hit the headlines. People may be queuing up to get an anti-viral shot but what’s actually going on?

* Fear (False Evidence Appearing Real)
* Profit (someone’s making money in the recession from this facade)
* Panic (Drum roll for Big Pharma)
* Suppressed social activity (more TV, box food, box living)

A few hundred deaths from a “virus” causes headlines, while millions of deaths from hospitals, legal drugs, hazardous workplaces, the big C and others take a back seat. OK…

Smells like a porkie pie to The Doxtor.

And as I sip on my New Chapter Reishi Mushroom extract, my tea made from olive leaf, pau d’arco, goji berries, schizandra berries, medicinal mushrooms, and take zeolite daily, I know that I won’t have to be scared, ill or dead due to swine flu, no matter how far it “penetrates” into our culture.

I love pigs and that’s why I don’t eat them. mass produce them or get infected by them.

I love u
oh , and you might apply this to any and all disease hysteria out there.

Ilse W.
05-01-2009, 08:50 AM
Here is what Jon Barron had to say (I trust him, he's written a great book "Lessons from the Miracle Doctors" that's available for free download on his website). He may tell you about his own forumlations to take, but he always gives you the alternatives to them (his formulations are very good, however).

Swine Flu - No Pandemic Yet/span

by Jon Barron

Taken from Blog Entry, Published April 26th, Baseline of Health Foundation

Okay, you probably have to be living in a cave not to have heard about swine flu over the last few days. Here at the Foundation, we've received over 300 requests for information in just the last 48 hours (an additional 30 in the time it took me to write this blog entry). And I've been informed by the people at Baseline Nutritionals that sales of Super ViraGon and Immunify have gone through the roof over the last few days. So I've decided to get a blog entry on swine flu posted that covers the basics and then, if necessary, deal with it in more detail in the May 11th newsletter.

First, let me make clear that although the swine flu that is making the headlines does indeed contain bird flu DNA (actually it contains DNA from bird flu, human flu, and two different strains of swine flu), it is not bird flu -- which is both good and bad. The good news is that its mortality rate is a fraction of that seen with bird flu, which has a mortality rate of over 90%. At its worst, in Mexico, the swine flu seems to be holding at about 6% (81 deaths out of 1300 cases). That's outrageously high for a flu and could be devastating in a worldwide pandemic, but it's a million miles from the scenario that's possible with bird flu. But 6% is the outside marker. In the United States, we have seen less than 100 cases of swine flu so far, with no deaths and, for the most part, only mild symptoms. Given that scenario, this strain of swine flu is no different than regular flu in terms of mortality rates.
Is it a pandemic?

The word that's being tossed around with gay abandon in the news, and that seems to be causing so much concern among everyone writing into the Foundation, is PANDEMIC. So let's get to it; are we in a swine flu pandemic?

And the answer is definitely not, at least not at the moment! Yes, because it is a brand new strain of flu that appears to be easily transmitted between people, it certainly has the potential to become a pandemic, but it is not one yet. But, more importantly, pandemic doesn't mean what most people seem to think it means. A pandemic does not necessarily mean black-plague carts being hauled through the streets piled high with dead bodies. Nor does it mean flesh eating zombies wandering the streets feeding on the living. All a pandemic means is that a new infectious disease is spreading throughout the world. That's it. Symptoms associated with a given pandemic can be mild or deadly severe, but that has nothing to do with the word pandemic. It's quite possible to have a pandemic that kills very few people. So where does the swine flu fall on the symptom scale? It would appear that it falls somewhere between Mexico and the US! And that's what we're all waiting to see with baited breath. An epidemic/pandemic based on the numbers we've seen so far in the US, would certainly produce a substantial number of deaths, but no more than during any flu season (about 36,000 Americans die on average each year from the flu).

One of the problems with swine flu is that since it's been so long since we've seen a major swine flu outbreak in the world, virtually no one alive today has any resistance -- thus one of the major concerns that it could spread rapidly throughout the world and kill large numbers of people. On the other hand, because this particular variation contains DNA from several different strains of flu, including human flu that people have already been exposed to, there are some indications that large numbers of people may have SOME built in resistance, which would keep the symptoms far milder as the body fights the flu. That, potentially, could dramatically lower the mortality rates throughout the world if it should actually become a pandemic.

Another thing working in our favor is that the flu season is officially over. Aha, you might ask. Why should that matter? It matters because it makes it much easier for health officials to identify and isolate cases of swine flu since any flus that people get now are very likely to be swine flu. This is a huge advantage in helping to control the spread of the flu and preventing it from becoming a pandemic. If this outbreak had happened 60 days ago, it would have been far worse.
What to do?

That's the big question, isn't it -- what everyone writing in wants to know? What should I do?

* First. Don't panic. There is no pandemic...yet. And, at least outside of Mexico, symptoms appear to be mild. Four years ago, when everyone was in an uproar about avian flu, I advised everyone not to panic, that a massive bird flu outbreak was not imminent. And I'm telling you now, that although the risk of a pandemic is certainly greater than with avian flu, your personal danger is much less -- and there are things you can do to make your risk of dying virtually non-existent.
* Should you wear a surgical mask? If you want, but it probably isn't going to help much. Surprisingly, flu primarily transfers through direct contact with the virus. Shaking hands or kissing on the cheek are major points of transmission. But that's not the scary part. Viruses can survive for up to 3 days on many surfaces -- doorknobs for example -- making everything you touch a potential infector. Washing hands regularly during the day with regular soap and water can dramatically reduce your chances of infection.
* If you come down with the flu, stay home and take care of yourself. Don't go to work; don't go to school; don't spread the flu to all of your friends and co-workers. And if you come down with the flu don't rush to the hospital. Only go to the hospital if you feel that you are starting to have problems breathing or any other symptoms are becoming severe. If everyone rushes to the hospital, it will overwhelm your local health care system's ability to minister to the truly sick.
* Speaking of which, can your hospital actually do anything to help? And the answer is yes! Although the swine flu is totally resistant to one class of anti-flu drugs known as adamantanes, it is still sensitive -- barely -- to Tamiflu and Relenza. In this case, barely seems to be enough to prevent people from dying.

And now the big question, the one everyone writing in wants to know the answer to: is there anything you can do at home to protect yourself from the swine flu and speed recovery if you get it? And the answer is a resounding yes. But first, let me cover an important point. Many people on the net are advocating taking immune enhancing supplements in great abundance for protection against the swine flu. This may not be such a great idea. Here is where the avian DNA in the swine flu becomes important. So far, the vast majority of those who have died from swine flu in Mexico are not the very old, the very young, and those with compromised immune systems (the typical victims of the flu). The people who have died have been young adults with strong immune systems. That means that like with avian flu, this strain of swine flu seems to have the ability to turn a person's immune system against itself so that it eats up the victim's lungs in what is known as a cytokine storm.

Does that mean that using immune builders is a mistake? No! But it does mean that using immune builders without using pathogen destroyers to take down the viral load very well might be. So with that in mind.

* Keep a supply of AHCC, olive leaf extract capsules, and grapefruit seed extract on hand. Use them whenever you travel or enter an environment such as a large office as a prophylactic measure.
* Keep a supply of Super ViraGon and Immunify on hand -- or something like them. At the first sign of feeling unwell -- that scratch in the throat, a slightly feverish feeling, a dull body ache, an unexplained headache, etc. -- slam down a full bottle of Super ViraGon and a half bottle of Immunify. Stopping the flu in the incubation phase is much, much, much easier than getting rid of it once it has established itself. If you hit it hard during incubation, you should be almost 100% effective in stopping it cold. If you allow it to incubate and fully manifest, it will take you several days to beat it back. It's true that you can significantly cut the time of your sickness, but it will still be several days, and you will need to keep taking the formulas for four to five days after you feel better to make sure you clear the virus from your body and it doesn't reassert itself.

If you prefer something else to Super ViraGon or Immunify, go for it. Other options include Sambucol and Blood Support. Blood Support is another of my formulations that is very unfriendly to viruses and bacteria.

Bottom line: we are not at panic time. There are things you can do. And if the situation changes, I will keep you up-to-date on anything that might affect your health.

Veronica01
05-01-2009, 11:37 AM
Thanks, good to know. Up in Alberta we had a few students come back from Mexico with the flu so people are a little worried, but i do remember a few years ago being a lot more worried about avian flu. I will not worry anymore, i send the article to my parents who haul truck loads from texas to ontario. :)

SweetTangerine
05-02-2009, 12:52 AM
People are getting into panic mode at the hospital where I work (patients not staff so much). I work in the lab and we have been swamped with flu testing. If people have as much as a cough or a runny nose they are getting tested. I swear people are going to come get tested if a pig looks at them :p. Face masks are disappearing by the box load in the lobbies. Being in the lab I will be one of the first to hear if this situation gets worse, so I will keep everyone updated. As of right now there doesn't seem to be much to worry about.

juliebove
05-02-2009, 01:19 AM
I saw my chiropractor today and he said "they" (I didn't ask who they was) put this disease out there for a variety of reasons. One being an experiment to see how far spreading it was, who it would affect and how, how we would respond to it, etc.

There was also the monetary aspect of it. Getting us all to rush out and buy supplies and of course a demand for such supplies.

asecretchord
05-02-2009, 06:53 AM
I think people are overreacting. It's the flu. I've had the flu. It sucked for a few weeks but I'm still alive. It's not like we're dealing with leprosy here. It could be something much, much worse.

Myca
05-02-2009, 08:57 AM
I think people are overreacting. It's the flu. I've had the flu. It sucked for a few weeks but I'm still alive. It's not like we're dealing with leprosy here. It could be something much, much worse.


You should really read your history books.
This flu could become very serious. The avian flu[H5N1] has not gone away. It just does not go from person to person very well.
This is just the first wave of Swine Flu [H1N1] The second wave could be very ugly.
There are many different flu virus combinations. The one you had may have been mild.

betty boop
05-02-2009, 10:08 AM
I saw my chiropractor today and he said "they" (I didn't ask who they was) put this disease out there for a variety of reasons. One being an experiment to see how far spreading it was, who it would affect and how, how we would respond to it, etc.

There was also the monetary aspect of it. Getting us all to rush out and buy supplies and of course a demand for such supplies.

I have to say I feel the exact same way. Aside from the things mentioned above I also feel "they" want everyone to get a flu shot, people are being played like a violin and don't even realize it, sadly.

Ilse W.
05-02-2009, 11:07 AM
Juliebove and Betty Boop EXACTLY. There are no more deaths due to this flu than due to any other types. This is nothing else than economic stimulus for the pharma industry and doctors/hospitals, as if they needed it, ha!:mad:

rawbabymama
05-02-2009, 11:11 AM
I'm not worried about the swine flu. They were laughing about it on the radio and, I'm not sure if this is accurate because I haven't looked it up, so this is hearsay, said that back in the 70s there was a swine fly & more people died from the swine flu shots than from the flu itself. They also said more people die every day from the regular ole flu than from all the people who have died from swine flu so far. Again, this could be bs. I will look it up later, but it is something to think about.

When I was a kid, I had numerous flus & pneumonia a couple times. I was a very sick child, but my mom took care of me, and I survived. I actually did better with viral infections (when the doctors realized they were viral) because, guess why? No antibiotics.

I am almost over a nasty throat infection which I killed with copious amounts of garlic, and there are even more potent herbal/natural remedies out there.

So, call me crazy, but I am not worried. I am much more worried about the high blood pressure & diabetes caused by 7 years of eating about 20% of what the American Dietetic Association considers healthy cooked food. The number one killer for women is heart disease.

Just in case my son catches it, I am going to make some immune boosting herbal concoctions in advance, like garlic soaked in raw honey (for him), etc.

Best Wishes everyone!

Springtime
05-02-2009, 11:44 AM
sorry, misposted

SweetTangerine
05-02-2009, 01:35 PM
Swine Flu 1976 Pubic Service Announcement...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iJLpe1tZl8&feature=popular
There is a bit of fear mongering for ya... I sent this to my dad as well and he was a jr. in high school at this time. He says he doesn't remember seeing it so it must not have been a huge deal at the time.

rawbabymama
05-02-2009, 06:07 PM
Swine Flu 1976 Pubic Service Announcement...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iJLpe1tZl8&feature=popular
There is a bit of fear mongering for ya... I sent this to my dad as well and he was a jr. in high school at this time. He says he doesn't remember seeing it so it must not have been a huge deal at the time.

They are even funnier in video! They played the first one on the radio (KROQ), and the djs were describing the people in the commercial.

rawbabymama
05-02-2009, 06:11 PM
You should really read your history books.
This flu could become very serious. The avian flu[H5N1] has not gone away. It just does not go from person to person very well.
This is just the first wave of Swine Flu [H1N1] The second wave could be very ugly.
There are many different flu virus combinations. The one you had may have been mild.

A very valid point.

I have to say, I have not read any history of flus lately...American history is my least favorite subject actually. Science I like, but I haven't felt compelled to learn about this flu. I feel there is nothing I can do about it...kind of like any other possibility of these kind of proportions. I am not worried about it; I am much more likely to die from my day to day stress. We'll take sensible precautions, but scaring ourselves isn't helpful.

It's just the earth trying to "shake us off like a bad case of fleas" (a quote from the late & great George Carlin). ;)