I have hit a raw wall

[RAWmen-Noodles]

I think I have hit a raw wall (try saying that a couple of time real fast). I do not want any fruits or veg. I do not want any smoothies or green drinks. I do not want any crackers or recipes. Just water and kombucha. No mor kombucha right now, cant afford it. Just water. But I think I want food. My mind is fighting with my body. I do want some pancakes right now.

[RawHeaven]

Your mind is fighting with itself. Your body is talking to you loud and clear. It's doing some major cleansing. If it wants water and kombucha, give it water and kombucha. :) I don't see where there is a problem in all sincerity. It simply sounds like you've naturally progressed into fasting. I get this call from time to time from my body and I'm water/juice fasting right now. I tried to eat and my body doesn't want solid food and I really don't either. I feel centered and well. I have a feeling you will eventually want greens, fruits and veggies again. Keep drinking the water and be kind to your body. When you do feel hungry, eat again. Start with non-sweet fruits or listen to your body. It will tell you what it wants, it feels like you will be really in tune with this concept when you eat again. Cheers...here's to your next steps. (((clinking water glasses)))

[T-Bird]

When I was googling on fasting once I came across a site about juice vs water fasting and so I was reading.......

It was talking about not to do a water fast when you first start trying fasts, but then it said:

But sometimes the Holy Spirit will call you to a water fast, and if that happens go with it.....

I think the Holy Spirit is calling you to a water fast!

[Colorawdo girl]

Sounds like your body wants no food..I ditto the above. I had a time like this. I was not hungry at all. The process of the raw life...honor it is all I can say.

Ooops you did not hit a wall....you hit a major milestone....take a flying leap and your body will love you for it.

[RawHeaven]

I think the Holy Spirit is calling you to a water fast!

Thank you for saying what I couldn't. I try to be vague because of the rules on the site not to bring in our spiritual beliefs. I respect the rules, but sometimes it's challenging not to do so. I will translate Holy Spirit to mean the Higher Spirit. :)

[RAWmen-Noodles]

Wow, thank you all! It totally makes since. I am so happy to have people like all of you around. I fell alot less crazy now which makes me feel soooo much better. All I can say is that our bodies are amazing for knowing what it wants and when it wants it. How long will this go on for? I have been fighting it for a week now. Can I starve to death just by drinking water?

I am not at all offended by any of the spiritual remarks.

[EatRaw]

I fell alot less crazy now which makes me feel soooo much better. All I can say is that our bodies are amazing for knowing what it wants and when it wants it.
Amen! :D


Can I starve to death just by drinking water?
Yes!! You can starve to death by eating rabbit and drinking water EVERYDAY!LOL...or just eating rabbit! LOL...NO fat on a rabbit!! hehe

Take the water and the magic water (kombucha) and be a happy camper..hehe...

I just feel you'll change your mind before to long! :D

dave

[Aleesha Sattva]

no you will not starve on a water fast. you can easily do 40 days without any problems (other than the usual water fasting issues)...

just be very very careful breaking your fast please. your digestion will be 100% shut down... so allow it waken very slowly. depending on how long you fast depends on how gentle.

but a few days on juice before any solids is essential.

all the best on your journey into Self.

[Patch]

This happened to me just a few days again and I wrote in saying help, I craved fries and toast and all those high smelling foods. I was given the advice that I was detoxing and try juicing so that's what I did and it worked, I just had fruit juiced and I'm craving vegetables again. I was so sick of looking at any fruit or vegetables nothing was appealing. That's all changed and now I'm enjoying my food again. Hang in there!!!!!!

[SweetTangerine]

Something is requesting that you fast. I have been feeling the same way lately. My body has done this for me in the past and doing it again. For me it is asking for smoothies and fruit. It doesn't matter if you believe in god or just your own personal energy, what matters is what is being asked. Good luck with everything :)

[RawHeaven]

Wow, thank you all! It totally makes since. I am so happy to have people like all of you around. I fell alot less crazy now which makes me feel soooo much better. All I can say is that our bodies are amazing for knowing what it wants and when it wants it. How long will this go on for? I have been fighting it for a week now. Can I starve to death just by drinking water?

I am not at all offended by any of the spiritual remarks.

You have no idea how much you're inspiring me!! I can feel your energy just popping. Your awakening to this next level in your raw food journey is ultra contagious. Especially since it seems like you're having no problems at all or experiencing detox. You are more amazing than you know. Thank you for the reminder of this miraculous process!

Aleesha already answered your question. But heck no. I've water fasted for 28 days in the past. As she mentions, please be careful how your break the fast which is a bit critical. Be gentle and juice if you can the first few days post fast. There is plenty of great information in the fasting section if you plug in 'water fast' in the search engine. Best wishes! You're rawkin it.


So while respecting the rules, I am sure we can allude to our own personal credit to the highest One!!!??? Good for you and (t-Bird)others who speak up a bit.

Thank you Colorawdo girl. I see the higher spirit within us all which differs a bit from the normal take. I can see why it's suggested we don't talk about it. We could sure take off on all kinds of tangents and deep discussions! LOL. But it's all Good, with an extra o. ;) hehe.

[EatRaw]

no you will not starve on a water fast.
I disagree! Agree to disagree...or not.......You WILL starve on a water fast.

You never implied ....will I starve on a 2-3-5-7-10-20-30 or even the holy 40 day water fast...but I CAN GUARANTEE you will eventually starve! I don't care what anybody says!! YOU WILL STARVE!!:eek:

If I was YOU....I would NOT just drink water for longer than 40 days and expect great health....at your sig. wieght!! MY OPINION mind you! :cool:

dave

[EatRaw]

no you will not starve on a water fast.

This is just SO WRONG to tell someone!!! Without explaining...WOW! MAN :rolleyes:

I don't care how much anyone has juiced/fasted/feasted.....

Telling someone that they CANNOT STARVE on a water fast is insane!

YES YOU WILL STARVE ON A WATER FAST! MY GOD!

dave

[cara4art]

IMO, you've gotten a profound message to simplify and recalibrate, as I like to call it! There's nothing wrong with wanting to back off from recipes, crackers, etc. Some people in fact thrive on a very simple diet and you might be getting the nudges in that direction. Now the question is how to proceed without endangering one's health by too extreme of a venture, like starving to death because you went on way too long of a fast, for instance.
One way of doing this might be mono-eating, or you might get into juice feasting which is getting to be a popular alternative to full-on water fasting and is more viable for many in modern times. Seems like a natural progression overall for many raw foodists is to simplify their food, sometimes to periods of very simple intakes of fruit, greens, certain liquids, etc. As they say, "your mileage may vary". But if you just want to give your system a rest for just a FEW days on water and Kombucha, check it out. Your body will tell you when it's time to eat again, and I'll bet you will appreciate even simple foods once again. Hopefully you don't have anything wrong with you that is causing a lack of appetite though. Just my thoughts here!
About longer fasts, from what I've read it seems that they are best done under supervision, to monitor you're actually doing with this and reactions, or at the very least, only done after a period of preparation and having no distractions, in the context of a supportive lifestyle.
Best of luck!

[RawHeaven]

This is just SO WRONG to tell someone!!! Without explaining...WOW! MAN :rolleyes:

I don't care how much anyone has juiced/fasted/feasted.....

Telling someone that they CANNOT STARVE on a water fast is insane!

YES YOU WILL STARVE ON A WATER FAST! MY GOD!

dave

I usually don't do this and I know you weren't addressing me, but I'm totally going to back up Aleesha here. She is one of the most compassionate and educated folks I know in general and on the subject and she would not willingly mislead anyone. We all have a choice of the path we're going to take. Rawmen-Noodles is simply receiving non-medical advice based on experience because she asked. She doesn't have to do anything that she's not comfortable with or feeling. Clearly she is feeling something. And guess what? She's already been water fasting for a week already.

You do not understand water fasting which has been done successfully by humans since the dawn of time. I never fasted in my life 3 years ago, but I did a huge amount of research on all types of fasting, including water fasting. I did not starve and the last time I looked I am still alive and getting healthier daily. Spiritually, mentally, emotionally and physically!

I will agree with sharing the information. There is a fasting section on this forum with a wealth of info. But I'm also including this for you and RawmenNoodles.

http://drbenkim.com/fasting.html

http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020127shelton.III/020127.toc.htm

http://www.amazon.com/Fasting-Handbook-Dining-Empty-Bowl/dp/1587612313

[Colorawdo girl]

Listening to ones body is such an amazing tool. Our bodies tell us, just like it is telling rawmen noodles to ease up on food.

This happened for me as well. I simply ate very little to no food, drank water and waited it out. No worry and it went away and I got hungry again. So my body said "OK we are wanting food again" So I said ok here it is.


The body knows.
Simple, simple, simple.

[T-Bird]

Thank you for saying what I couldn't. I try to be vague because of the rules on the site not to bring in our spiritual beliefs. I respect the rules, but sometimes it's challenging not to do so. I will translate Holy Spirit to mean the Higher Spirit.

I feel pretty free with it as I believe in nothing and reject nothing, so it is all good to me.

That was the terminology that was used on that fasting website, and it kind of stuck with me as a concept - so used their terminology.

Insert whatever spirit-word you prefer!

[RawHeaven]

and it kind of stuck with me as a concept - so used their terminology.



alright then....mysterious and cool! peace. :)

no more hijacking rawmennoodles' thread for all of us. lol.

[RAWmen-Noodles]

The thing is, this is not an on purpose type of fast. I thought that maybe my body was telling me that I did not want raw food, that it wanted cooked food again. I would eat some apple or whatever and I did not taste good. I would eat all of my favorite and non-favorite things but I still got the same response. I would feel hungry, so I would try to eat and it was like that was not what I wanted. I am now craving lemon juice and celery juice. I have no idea what that is about. Do I want to eat a big salad, YES! But for some reason it just does not seem appealing. It is the oddest thing. Yes I am worried that I will lose some weight. So far it has been a week and I have not (yay). But I think I might be coming out of this since I want some celery juice. I have never even had celery juice! I dont have juicer either. I will cut some up and let it sit in some water then drink it.

[RawHeaven]

I dont have juicer either. I will cut some up and let it sit in some water then drink it.

I think it's pretty cool what you're experiencing.

Do you have a blender? If so, for example all you need to do is put the celery and some water in it to cover the blades. Blend then strain through a $1.50 (or less) paint straining bag you can find in your local hardware store.

[RawHeaven]

You know what rawmennoodles? I have a juicer that I haven't used in almost a year and I don't foresee using it again. Do you want it? My gift to you. It's a Waring Pro. I bought it used on Ebay 2 years ago and it's in great condition and really easy to clean. I can ship it to you if you can pick up the shipping costs from california. or if you can't swing the costs right now, i can send it to you totally free in a couple of weeks. if interested, feel free to email me. best wishes!

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g203/crystalsbones/juicer.png

[gritsnla]

What a great gift, RawHeaven!! You are truly lovely!

[RAWmen-Noodles]

You know what rawmennoodles? I have a juicer that I haven't used in almost a year and I don't foresee using it again. Do you want it? My gift to you. It's a Waring Pro. I bought it used on Ebay 2 years ago and it's in great condition and really easy to clean. I can ship it to you if you can pick up the shipping costs from california. or if you can't swing the costs right now, i can send it to you totally free in a couple of weeks. if interested, feel free to email me. best wishes!

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g203/crystalsbones/juicer.png


Oh I could not do that! No way no how. I will pay for it. I have such a ahrd time accepting things like that! You are so kind!

[RawHeaven]

No, no, no, no. Would you buy a birthday present someone has gifted you? Think of this as a raw birthday present. Please? It's just collecting dust and I want you to have it. I will only accept the shipping charges! Thank you. ;) :D