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Springtime
04-30-2009, 11:20 AM
On monday i'm going to the doctors to get a vaccination against this, and i was just curious if any one here has got this vaccination?
Did it affect you in a negative way? Like, pain, nausea et.c.?

I want to get the vaccination done, but it would be great to hear your opinons

love
/r

Colorawdo girl
04-30-2009, 11:28 AM
Personally would not ever get a vaccination for anything (given it was my choice).
Lots of info on vaccines and the danger they pose...toxins etc.
Research then decide.

in addition...there is alot of hype designed to cause folks to panic and run to medicine and pharma.

Drugs create more problems than the person had to start with.

The body is amazing and, given the tools it needs to be well, will thrive and resist what others succumb to.

Trust your body and trust raw to build a new you!! New path, new thinking.

rawpromises
04-30-2009, 11:37 AM
Personaly and this is just me. I don't get vaccines anymore. Flu or otherwise.. I got them when I was young as did my children but as I learn more and more as I have gotten older, I would not choose to do it again. Even the new one for cervical cancer Guardasil. Never would I expose that to my children to those shots. Children have already died from it. You just don't hear about it in the media until they pull the product off the market.Just reasearch and make an informed decison. Like I said it is just me, but I do feel stongly about not putting toxins into your body that the research is geared toward big profit.

desertowl
04-30-2009, 11:52 AM
Personaly and this is just me. I don't get vaccines anymore. Flu or otherwise.. I got them when I was young as did my children but as I learn more and more as I have gotten older, I would not choose to do it again. Even the new one for cervical cancer Guardasil. Never would I expose that to my children to those shots. Children have already died from it. You just don't hear about it in the media until they pull the product off the market.Just reasearch and make an informed decison. Like I said it is just me, but I do feel stongly about not putting toxins into your body that the research is geared toward big profit.


I also agree. No way would I get it.

Springtime
04-30-2009, 11:53 AM
I am aware that i will be putting toxins into my body, but this is a very serious disease for which there are no known cures, and lots of people die from it every year. It affects the nervous system very seriously.

The area where i live is affected, and there is little to do to protect yourself from ticks. they're everywhere, basically, and i've had quite a few in my life.

Revvell
04-30-2009, 12:11 PM
I don't do drugs. Building one's immune system is the best prevention. Taking drugs is the worst. IF drugs really worked then TB, polio and the like would be wiped out. They're not.

There are no "known cures" for a lot of things ~ in the medical world because their "cure" is a drug. The body's cure is the immune system.

Revvell (http://LetsTalkRaw.com)

desertowl
04-30-2009, 02:39 PM
On monday i'm going to the doctors to get a vaccination against this, and i was just curious if any one here has got this vaccination?
Did it affect you in a negative way? Like, pain, nausea et.c.?

I want to get the vaccination done, but it would be great to hear your opinons

love
/r


I caught Lyme disease 7 years ago. It was horrible. I took the first cycle of doxy which didn't help.

I got better by acupuncture, herbs,and dietary change.

I switched to a vegetarian diet.

Once Lyme is in your system it never leaves.

I was working for a home health care company at the time and we had so many people bedridden and constantly cycling various ABX. That did nothing but wipe out their immune systems.

I knew several pharmacists that would not handle certain drugs let alone take them.

And that includes many vaccines.

Thimerasol has been known to cause autism as well as other problems.

I personally have come to the conclusion the the pharmaceutical industry wants us chronically ill.

It makes them money.

sweetlime
05-01-2009, 01:30 AM
I don't do drugs. Building one's immune system is the best prevention. Taking drugs is the worst. IF drugs really worked then TB, polio and the like would be wiped out. They're not.

There are no "known cures" for a lot of things ~ in the medical world because their "cure" is a drug. The body's cure is the immune system.

Revvell (http://LetsTalkRaw.com)


i used to work for a medical clinic that specialized in vaccines. after having worked there, i have a torn opinion about the necessity of vaccines.

yes, many of the vaccines are pushed on us and may not be necessary. but at the same time, many vaccines have saved millions of lives (TB and polio, hep A and hep B all have been practically eradicated from the US because of vaccines).

Now, I do not know anything about this tick-borne disease you speak of, but I would suggest doing some research online. you could probably find the medical information of the vaccine which will help you assess and evaluate the risk level. if your risk of getting the tick born disease is greater than the side effects or possible health effects of the vaccine, then i would say get the vaccine.

it is important to note that not all vaccines are 100% effective, and most have different rates and categories of reactions. most people do not do research about the vaccines they get and decide to listen to their doctor. do research, the information is out there, and decide based on that info. be an informed patient, and take responsibility for your decision.

sometimes your immune system does need a boost from dangerous diseases. unless you are a super-human, your immune system is not going to protect you from rabies, malaria, yellow fever, etc. the bottom line is to educating yourself and deciding if the risk of the disease is great enough to need the vaccine.

sweetlime
05-01-2009, 01:32 AM
Thimerasol has been known to cause autism as well as other problems.

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thimerasol has been taken out of most standard vaccines (hep a, hep b, flu, TDAP, polio, etc.). and there still is no widely accepted scientific research that links autism to vaccines.

Colorawdo girl
05-01-2009, 06:08 AM
To me, there is always a remedy in nature. We are already in the preventative remedy....eating living foods.

Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food....woohoooo.

No inocotoxulations for me.Love what was said about babies and children knowing. And we think they cry because of the pain of the shot. hmmmmmm

Raw Angel Mom
05-01-2009, 07:44 AM
Hello, i went to google about this and found some interesting information

If you choose to get vaccinated, it might be good that you read this first

http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/27000510/

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/medicines/100004965.html

This are useful informations if you get bite by one of them

http://www.brussels.army.mil/Clinic/adv_tbe.htm

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/Spb/mnpages/dispages/TBE.htm



Best wishes!

Revvell
05-01-2009, 09:38 AM
.... many vaccines have saved millions of lives (TB and polio, hep A and hep B all have been practically eradicated from the US because of vaccines).


Actually, you don't know that to be true. Maybe the dis-eases had run their course and the propaganda is that the vaccines stopped them. Practically eradicated? If the vaccines "worked", they'd be GONE! TB is still running rampant all over the world as is polio ~ they're just kept under wraps or given a different name. How can doctors and legal drug dealers sell us on vaccines if we knew how many cases of these dis-eases are still out there? Hep comes back with a stronger strain every time.

Drugs mask the symptoms. That's it! Since the "war on cancer, heart disease, etc." began, things have just gotten worse, not better.

Doctors have now moved to the 4th leading cause of death in the world because of their drugs and they are a major cause of death for the first 3.

Revvell (http://LetsTalkRaw.com)

RawHeaven
05-01-2009, 09:45 AM
and there still is no widely accepted scientific research that links autism to vaccines.

a mother's wisdom, innate intuition & primal connection to her child is a gazillion times more accurate than any scientific research. even his own colleagues thought albert einstein was a bit nuts too.

edit: just wanted to add i think science rocks. i love it. i just think there are also other ways to reach conclusions.

rawstrength
05-01-2009, 09:50 AM
See my other post on Japanese Knotweed. Japanese Knotweed prevents and cures Lyme disease and other tick-born illnesses. Do the research. I'm sure there is some knotweed growing in your backyard! Get out there and eat it.

T-Bird
05-01-2009, 11:20 AM
Springtime,

If you have decided to get this, best of luck to you. I agree to research carefully, but you need to make the choice you need to.

I agree with sweetlime, vaccinations have done some good, and some harm. Why they ever thought adding a neuro-toxin like mercury to preserve them - heaven knows.

Smallpox is currently extinct - except for a some in a secret lab somewhere - due to vaccines. Other diseases are close to being erradicated, but you have them popping up due to places in africa/south america where it crops up and then can travel here - as the swine flu did - via traveling hosts.

If smallpox were raging - give me the vaccine.
The flu? I'll take my chances!

Encephalitis seems like a terrible risk to take......


So you have the option of your immune system overcoming the vaccine effects, or the disease if you are exposed.....What would be the difference healthwise?

The risk of not conquering the disease in this case is horrendous.

So I think it's like a risk reward matrix........have a toxin cocktail - get over it in days to a week, maybe do a weeks fast after recovering to clean house, or the constant threat of the disease........which could come at anytime, and maybe you were not at your healthiest/strongest when it knocks on your door?

Springtime
05-01-2009, 12:26 PM
Thank you all so much for your advice and concern

I too am very aware that vaccines are to be questioned and researched before put into ones body. What i've done is that i've had a lookaroud and tried to find as many side effects as possible, critical articles online and peoples general experience.

What i found was that any serious side effects are extremly rare, and that the worst of the common ones was general malaise/nausea. Which, to me, doesn't sound bad at all compared to encephalitis.

And, from what i understood, TBE is not something your body either fights off or surrender to. If the tick has it so will you, and it's not pleasant.

I will get the shot, and hopefully i will have no side effects.

New question, though:
Since i am still in the beginning of raw/going through some sort of detox, does that mean my body is more prone to suffer the side effects, or get any kind of illness ofr that matter? Or am i gaining strength through detox? (i know, eventually i am gaining, but am i stronger during the process as well?)