Want to glow?

[rawstrength]

If you really want to get the glow . . . get out in the sunshine! I cannot believe how much better I look and feel now that I have a healthy tan once again. Hurray for nice weather! This winter was so, so long.

And please . . . don't wear toxic skin-cancer causing sunscreen. If you are fair-skinned susceptable to burns, use coconut oil topially, limit your sun exposure, and cover up with clothing. But don't use sunscreen!!!!!!

I'm lucky to have my Greek ancestry to thank for immunity to sun burn.

[spicyfull]

And usually before 10am. The Sun has so Many Nutrients for our Bodies and our Skin. Thanks for Sharing.

[ShelShel]

I thought I was the only one who felt this way! :rolleyes: I'm french & indian...I don't burn. :p I love being out in the sun and have never worn sunscreen. I cover up if I have too, but that's all. It makes me feel great just to step out into the sun and feel it warm my face. It's just starting to get warm here. A little. :p I cannot wait for summer! Woohoo!:D

[Colorawdo girl]

You rock rawstrength. Sun is so superdeliciouso for us. All talk about bad sun. (she sings) Sun,sun mr golden sun please shine down on me....haha

SUN BAD SO COVER WITH TOXIC SUNSCREEN

Red alert MOST HUMANS HAVE VITAMIN D DEFICIENCY. I add "and look pale".

funny world we live in.(she laughs) oh Rawstrength email me about books ok?

oops forgot..I cant wait to get the sun glow...woohooo I love it.

[Springtime]

I'm really paranoid about burning, because iäm super fair skinned, and i guess i have some sort of vit-d deficiency because i'm always covered up.

Useually i wear Spf 20 or above, but i've started seeing these posts on sunscreen being toxic. Any scientific proof or just common sense?
Being this pale with lots of birthmarks i'm very cautious.

[rawstrength]

Toxic Sunscreen http://www.naturalnews.com/021927.html

[Katelovessummer]

I realize that chemical sunscreens are terrible for us and possibly cause cancer. What about mineral sunscreens though? Is the problem just that companies can put whatever else they want in the sunscreens along with the minerals that make them bad? Or do you think they are okay? I got a few mineral sunscreens at my local health food store after reading about the dangers of chemical sunscreens and they seem to be working well. I cover up when I can, but when I am swimming for long periods of time, I need some protection from the sun or my skin will fry. Thoughts? Thanks:)

[T-Bird]

If you really want to get the glow . . . get out in the sunshine! I cannot believe how much better I look and feel now that I have a healthy tan once again.

I prefer to glow from within - through my pale gothic skin, thank you!

I love the sunshine - just don't want it to alter my skinshade is all.

I have this sunscreen at home was just reading it. It is 30 protection and contains no chemical sunscreens, says it is a "physical barrier"

I can't remember the name of it, but will get back to you all if any are interested....

[Moretta]

I love the sunshine and try to avoid Sunscreen at all costs.

I love the natural way.

[mongodelight]

on cooked food the sun is not ver enjoyable for you, you feel to warm when its perfect weather, u cant enjoy breathing fresh air(no difference), u cant feel any magic in nature... Sad life.

But i wouldnt say raw opens awakes conciousness completly. Overcoming
the ego is about observing 24/7 all the time. If u dont observe the ego freaks out, read a book of jiddu krishnamurti, everyone should have read one.

[RawSar]

I heard that the best times to be out in the sun with as little amount of clothing on as possible is 1130-2pm I think. When the sun is closer and the rays are shorter. Its the shorter rays that gives you the most vit. D and so the longer raises are the more dangerous times to be out tanning...
Also you want to shower and exfoliate before going outside to be able to best absorb the vit. D and then not shower for as long as possible (a couple hrs at least). When you shower right after tanning or being out in the sun you are washing away the vit D.
For pale skin you want to stay out till your skin is slightly pinkish. This means that you have absorbed as much vit D as you can for that day.

I can't remember where I got this info from so correct me if I am wrong.. :)

[Myca]

If you really want to get the glow . . . get out in the sunshine! I cannot believe how much better I look and feel now that I have a healthy tan once again. Hurray for nice weather! This winter was so, so long.

And please . . . don't wear toxic skin-cancer causing sunscreen. If you are fair-skinned susceptable to burns, use coconut oil topially, limit your sun exposure, and cover up with clothing. But don't use sunscreen!!!!!!

I'm lucky to have my Greek ancestry to thank for immunity to sun burn.

On this we have to agree to disagree, I would be very cautious telling people not to use sunscreen.
Myca

[RawSar]

Most sunscreens are dangerous.. more dangerous then being in the sun without any protection I think.
The media has us so scared now to be outside without protection when really, when avoiding the sun or lathering up in chemicals is what could damage your health even more.
But yes once you have been out for as long as your skin can handle you will want to protect it either by covering up or using a natural sunscreen (like a mineral one)or just get out of the sun all together..

[cara4art]

Take it slow:), especially if you are very light and tend not to tan. In this case, short exposures are best, not at peak hours of the day, to avoid burning and very real damage. And for some people, those exposures have to be really short, like very pale redheads and certain blondes with pink-based skin that burns at the drop of a hat. But for many others, a little bit of sun each day is fine, and essential to good health. The dermatologists love to say these days that ANY color gotten from the sun is a sign of damage, which I think is basically BS, myself. There's a big difference between getting a bit of a glow, and tanning all the way to leather - LOL! As far as how long to stay out, it depends on one's skintone and one's age too. With babies and elderly people, the skin is more delicate and more easily damaged by too much sun, so again, shorter exposures at non-peak hours is better, IMO. In general, it's not too smart of an idea to be baking outside all day - this is where the false security came in with sunscreens and the increasingly-strong and extremely high SPF sunblocks that are proliferating like crazy these days! I mean, who needs SPF 90, really?? So they can stay out ALL DAY? I actually saw this at the drugstore, and a week and a half ago, I saw these ladies from an affluent community carrying around these expensive little bottles of toxicity too at the beach during a recent mini-heat wave.
Consider this, even in hot sunny countries, there's a rhythm to the day when activities are done either early or late, and in the hottest part of the day, people are often inside resting. Makes perfect sense to me. Even when my husband and I lived in New Mexico, we followed this way during the warmer months. Often, if they have to be out working for long periods, even the darkest ones will have hats and sleeves on. They are NOT smearing themselves with chemical junk! In hot desert countries, long loose robes are the norm, because it is so hot and brilliant sun that having large areas of skin exposed like that for very long can be too heating and drying, leading to heat-related illness. So again, pace it, and enjoy the healing rays of the sun in moderation, IMO. Personally I love the sun, and benefit from moderate exposure, since I have a light to medium skintone that tans easily and well, due to my ethnic mix. Will be in Hawaii in a couple of weeks, and I'm down to no tan right now from being in all winter, so you can bet that I will be careful those first few days out, for sure.

[RaeVynn]

I don't use sunscreen, most of the time.
When I am going to be out in the sun all day, and I think I might have a problem, I use one that I've checked HERE: Skin Deep: Cosmetic safety reviews (http://www.cosmeticdatabase.com/wordsearch.php?query=sunscreen).

I would STRONGLY suggest that if someone feels that they need sunscreen, at the very LEAST, get a brand that has low toxicity.

[cornvalley]

Wonderful subject!
The need for sunshine on the skin has been replaced by fear of any exposure.
If you have created healthy skin with good nutrition (like all of you here) then some amount (20min. mid morn) is soooo good for you.
If I lived in the North I would build a solarium just for this application alone.
All these cancers are from unhealthy skin being unable to adapt and utilize what nature meant to be wholesome.
Git naked and Glow!

[kaybee]

http://www.terressentials.com/nanotech.html

http://www.terressentials.com/truthaboutsunscreens.html

apparently, the small particles in the mineral sunscreens can be harmful.... one of these articles says something to the effect that the same small mineral particles are used as a treatment on windows to kill bugs or something....

i do trust the info and the people from terressentials, and i think that it is telling that they refuse to make a sunscreen because they do not feel it is possible to make a safe one. so because they are providing info and NOT trying to sell you a product, i think that makes them seem more trustworthy, as they have no financial interest in making you believe their info. when i lived in dc, i used to go to their shop, and met the owner personally. she is really passionate and adamant about pure, non-toxic body care products, and their products are beautiful and feel good to use.

also ive seen something about using red raspberry seed oil as sunscreen, but when i tried it it was so oily i couldnt stand it, plus anything oily on my face makes its way into my contact lenses and not only hurts my eyes but also ruins the lenses

[T-Bird]

For pale skin you want to stay out till your skin is slightly pinkish. This means that you have absorbed as much vit D as you can for that day.

Are you insane?

If I became slightly pinkish out in the sun, I'd be a lobster 4 hours later - with a very serious burn.

When I was a kid, as I've related on another thread - there was no sunscreen - I just played outside. And on occasions I'd have very serious burns where multiple layers of skin died, and peeled off painfully leaving meaty looking wet skin underneath that was in danger of infection.

My god people, if you have ancestry with dark skinned peoples and can enjoy the sun without danger - have at it.

But advising fair skinned people to stay out until they're pinkish?

You are talking about something you know NOTHING about. And it is DANGEROUS for some us.

[RawSar]

I am very pale and the last few days I have sat outside in my bikini till my skin felt hot. An hour later I looked in the mirror and my skin was slightly pink, not red, not burned - it did not hurt just a very light pink in areas. The next day I was slightly tanned.. tanned for me anyhow :D
I believe it was Dr Mercola that said a slight pinkish color (not red, not burned) is totally fine and means that your skin absorbed as much vit. D as it could for that day.
But use your common sense, don't lay out in the sun for HOURS if you are very fair skin color. It didn't take long for my skin to turn color.

Eat lots of tomatoes, they are your natural sunscreen !!! :)

[T-Bird]

I am very pale and the last few days I have sat outside in my bikini till my skin felt hot. An hour later I looked in the mirror and my skin was slightly pink, not red, not burned


OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I think you are meaning to say:

Stay out long enough that you are slightly pink later when the color comes up

Rather than:

Stay out until you are slightly pink

b/c staying out till you see the pink, it will be a wicked burn later...

[RawSar]

By then it'll be too late and expect to be burnt and sore if you wait till you notice a pink color WHILE outside in the sun!

hahahahaha ya no no .. DO NOT DO THAT ! hahaha..
I thought there was a misunderstanding :p

[cara4art]

I will repeat, after seeing the last few posts, very fair-skinned people, BE CAREFUL! It's true that if you can see that pink while you are still out in the sun, you've had too much, and are going to be sorry later. I saw this a lot a week and a half ago during our recent hot spell at the beach. Lots of pink people! Not to mention the very real skin damage. For some people, 5 minutes of unprotected exposure is plenty, without getting a burn. I know for myself, I don't start with any more than 10 minutes a side(if sunbathing)after being inside all winter, and I take it from there, and this is with skin that tans easily. In the meantime, keep pumping the raw because the antioxidants and as yet unknown factors are good for you all over anyway, not just the skin.

[T-Bird]

I know I said this on another thread - but wanted to repeat here as more germane.


You do need to considered the geography your skin comes from.

I have Irish skin - but do not live in ireland. I'm sure if I did - I'd be fine there.

I live in Chicago - with extremely hot sunny long summers. The original natives from these parts were much darker skinned than a fair Irish person.

I do not believe that it would ever be "safe" for me to expose myself to this climate unprotected - Ireland - yes.

Also - it's pretty difficult to pick up a real tan in Ireland, and doesn't get so hot you'd want to be wearing minimal clothing very often - so I don't think my skin is even meant to be tanned all that much.

I like my pale skin, and wish it had been better protected in my youth to avoid all these dark marks on my skin - I've got some freckles and moles which I abhor. More proof that my skin isn't meant to have a whole lot of sun exposure.

I'll be keeping pale, thanks!

[freshlight]

the protection comes from within. I did never have a sunburn since I'm raw.
The sunscreen is not a protection, it's harmful stuff

[cornvalley]

I've got some freckles and moles which I abhor.
!
Now isn't that really the essence of your post:)? Sunshine still provides the skin with some benefits. Intensity and duration are the only variables. Very light exposure is better than zero exposure. Where is the point of diminishing returns on exposure? That's an individual matter. Being careful is sage advice especially at a younger age.

[T-Bird]

Now isn't that really the essence of your post

No it's not. I offer it up as evidence that you need to consider the geographic origins of your skin to assess what might be a good level for it.

You can't change your genetic skin with philosophizing. My skin was bred in Ireland where you can't get tanned too easily. It is wide open to process as much of the feeble sun that it can. You put this skin in chicago - and there is trouble.

As I also shared on another thread, my mother lost 1/2 her nose to skin cancer. She underwent 3 grueling surgeries, spent 3 weeks with a balloon under her check to stretch it out to produce skin for reconstruction, had to donate cartilage from her ear, etc. etc.

She lived her life without using sunscreen, and my skin is much fairer than hers. I get concerned when people advise "as much sun as possible" when they themselves claim Mediterranean origins and may not comprehend the issues the very fair face in being transplanted to much sunnier climates.

It can be quite serious. Ask my mother.

[cornvalley]

I was being funny with that statement. Sorry about that.

But nothing in my post disagrees with you at all. I was suggesting though that your negative experiences were clouding (no pun intended) the need for any amount of sunshine. Does that make sense?

[T-Bird]

No problem, Cornvalley.

Skin cancer is a real danger for some. My mother was on the cusp of not having enough left for reconstruction.

A man who lives across the street from my parents lost the whole end of his nose, all the cartilage stuff. He just has the bone part - sometimes wears a little plastic prosthesis so people don't stare so much. He went to the doctor too late.

My mom was pretty suicidal after it was removed and she had to wait 3 weeks for reconstruction. It was a tough time for her and the family, so I am probably overly sensitive about it.

[cornvalley]

Yikes! good reason to be sensitive.... your story saddens me. So sorry for everyone involved. I have fair skin as well but fortunately learned early on of the dangers of over exposure.

It's a bit like the music listening volumes that people subject their ears to at a young age and not caring or realizing the little bits of damage that occur to the little organs inside the ear canal. Some of those structure never re-grow after the trauma of over stimulation for long periods. Being cautious with skin care is for everywhere inside and outside of the body.

Yeah, I'd probably stay out of the sun if I were you. But, an area that has the most receptors for converting sunlight into Vitamin D is on the upper back.
A little exposure only there would still be a good thing for that benefit and not jeopardize more overly sensitive areas.

[RaeVynn]

Sun exposure does not cause cancer. Toxins do.
Toxins in sunscreen cause cancer.

Naturally, over exposure to the sun can cause painful burns. Sun damage to the skin can cause scarring, and as someone else pointed out, your body will shed toxins through the skin, given the chance (FIR saunas are used for just that purpose... and sunlight is full of FIR rays!), and if your system is loaded with toxins, those toxins might get "stuck" in/on your skin, and localize cancer there.

And, if you want to compare paleness... I'm also celtic ancestry, freckled, so pale that you can see the veins through my skin, and my areolas are nearly invisible... and I spent most of my childhood in Southern California, burnt seriously, once 2nd degree burns, from sunshine overexposure... fortunately, I've always had allergic reactions on sunscreen, so rarely ever used them.
Now, I'm 48, and I have NEVER had a single 'suspicious' spot on my body. Why? Gee, I should be covered in them... well, because I've not poisoned myself with sunscreen and other toxins, I would imagine.

Instead of lashing out, how about letting others make up their own minds, and you make up yours?

[T-Bird]

Instead of lashing out, how about letting others make up their own minds, and you make up yours?

Right back at cha!

[Rufassa]

On this we have to agree to disagree, I would be very cautious telling people not to use sunscreen.
Myca

OK, I keep hearing people talking about sunscreens being dangerous, which they are, only to say that a more natural types (mineral based) are better, not really. The main problem may not be in the chemicals they contain, which is an issue, but the fact that sunscreens block UV rays (I know, the thing they told us to avoid) from reaching the skin. Once these rays reach the skin the body creates vitamin D; if UV is blocked then this never happens.

In this country, people tend to avoid the sun and hence many people are deficient in Vitamin D. Vitamin D deficiencies have been linked to many cancers as well as other health conditions. http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/

The funny thing is that our grandparents spent much more time in the sun “unprotected” yet didn’t suffer from skin cancer at nearly the same rate. People in areas of the world were they are outside a lot don’t suffer from a higher rate than us, it is actually higher here than in these places and this is even if you account for pigment, as African-Americans suffer from rates higher than Africans despite African-Americans spending very little time in the sun.

So no I don’t think she should be cautious of telling people not to wear sunscreen. Sun burn doesn’t = skin cancer although lack of sun could lead you on a path to it.

There are many other sins that the sun causes cancer scare is fake such as the many people who get skin cancer get it in places where the sun doesn’t even shine, such as the bottom of their feet.

[rawstrength]

Thank you, Rufassa! The sun is good for us. We don't want to block it out with anything!

[snoops]

When I walk my dog or go for a bike ride I do not wear sunscreen because I want the suns rays.

In the summer I go hiking in the mountains and am out there for 4-6 hours at altitude ( more intense sun). I wear sunscreen because I would fry otherwise. I don't like to wear long sleeves or long pants because I get too hot. I know it's not good for you (poison absorbed by skin etc), but I don't want to burn and would severely if I didn't.

Thoughts on that please. Is it better to wear sunscreen and not burn or not wear it and burn?

I haven't tried the "if you are raw you won't burn" theory yet. And as I am not all raw yet it may not hold.

[RawSar]

"How to Get the Benefits of Vitamin D With Little Risk of Skin Cancer

Aside from protecting your skin from sun damage, optimizing your vitamin D levels can help you to prevent as many as 16 different types of cancer along with many other diseases as discussed in this past article, Vitamin D -- The Master Key to Optimal Health.

It’s absolutely tragic that dermatologists and sunscreen manufacturers have done such a thorough job of scaring people out of the sun -- your optimal source for natural vitamin D -- because it’s simply essential for your health.

If you want to get out in the sun to maximize your vitamin D production, and minimize your risk of malignant melanoma, the middle of the day (roughly between 10:00am and 2:00pm) is the best and safest time to go.

During this time you need the shortest exposure time to produce vitamin D because UVB rays are most intense at this time. Plus, when the sun goes down toward the horizon, the UVB is filtered out much more than the dangerous UVA.

You just need to be cautious about the length of your exposure. You only need enough exposure to have your skin turn the lightest shade of pink. This may only be a few minutes for some if you have a very pale skin.

Once you reach this point your body will not make any additional vitamin D and any additional exposure will only cause harm and damage to your skin.

Most people with fair skin will max out their vitamin D production in just 10-20 minutes, or, again, when your skin starts turning the lightest shade of pink. Some will need less, others more. The darker your skin, the longer exposure you will need to optimize your vitamin D production.

To learn more about sunlight and vitamin D, including why I recommend getting your levels tested and how to use the sun for cancer prevention, please set aside an hour to watch my free lecture on vitamin D.

And remember, spending some smart time out in the sun will optimize levels of one of your body’s natural defenses against cancer, vitamin D."

[RawSar]

"Why Would Indoor Workers Have Higher Rates of Melanoma?

There are two major factors that help explain this, and the first has to do with the type of UV exposure. There are two primary types of UV rays from sunlight, the vitamin-D-producing UVB rays and the skin-damaging UVA light.

Both UVA and UVB can cause tanning and burning, although UVB does so far more rapidly. UVA, however, penetrates your skin more deeply than UVB, and may be a much more important factor in photoaging, wrinkles and skin cancers.

A recent study found that indoor workers may have increased rates of melanoma because they’re exposed to sunlight through windows, and only UVA light, unlike UVB, can pass through window glass.

At the same time, these indoor workers are missing out on exposure to the beneficial UVB rays, and have lower levels of vitamin D.

As you probably know by now, vitamin D is formed in your skin from exposure to sunlight. The sun, in turn, does increase genetic damage in your skin and can cause skin cancer, but nature has designed a clever system to help prevent this risk.

Dr. John Cannell, one of the leading authorities on vitamin D and founder and executive director of the Vitamin D Council, does an excellent job of explaining the system in this video but to give you a summary, when vitamin D is produced in your skin, it goes directly to the genes in your skin where it helps prevent the types of abnormalities that ultraviolet light causes.

Hence, when you avoid the sun entirely, or slather on sun block whenever you go out, your skin is not making any vitamin D, and you’re left without this built-in cancer protection.

So it’s the combination of exposure to UVA light and lower vitamin D levels that appears to be causing the increased rates of melanoma, and the indoor workers could clearly benefit from spending some time outdoors in the sun."

[deb]

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Follow the money trail...



Warning people to avoid sunshine causes more harm than good; lack of sunshine responsible for many diseases, says research

Warning people to stay away from natural sunshine is doing far more harm than good, says a new report by the U.K.-based Health Research Forum. People actually need to sunbathe daily in order to be healthy, the report says, and this conclusion is based on a review of hundreds of scientific papers.

Lack of sunlight causes a horrifying list of chronic diseases like prostate cancer, breast cancer, osteoporosis, schizophrenia, and heart disease. Avoiding sunlight also causes out-of-control carbohydrate cravings due to the influence of sunlight on hormones like melatonin and serotonin.

Clearly, telling people to avoid sunlight and wear sunscreen is bad medical advice, yet the myth persists, especially in the United States where the population is been programmed to fear the sun. The common belief that "the sun causes cancer" is, in fact, responsible for causing more cancer than ever.

Exposure to natural sunlight, it turns out, is the primary method by which the human body generates vitamin D stores. Without vitamin D, people are subject to all the diseases listed above (and many more). But with ample sunlight, vitamin D goes to work in the body regulating normal physiological function and restoring a person's natural health. Sunlight is the primary way to get vitamin D, although taking certain nutritional supplements -- like cod liver oil -- can also help.

Folks, it's time to drop the ridiculous myth of western medicine that sunlight causes cancer. If anything, people need to get out more and expose more skin to the healing rays of the sun. Our sun is a powerful healer, and it is a remarkable example of the harmful character of western medicine that so many doctors still tell their patients to avoid natural sunlight.

Once again, the sun is absolutely free. You can prevent and even cure prostate cancer, breast cancer, and many other diseases by simply stepping outside your door every day and soaking up the 100% free healing treatment from the sun. It's called phototherapy, and it's powerful medicine. It's also not available as a prescription.

http://www.naturalnews.com/001263.html

and here...

Sunscreen use actually causes cancer, it doesn't prevent it, says exhaustive scientific research
http://www.naturalnews.com/001264.html

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[rawstrength]

If you are burning, you can build up a tolerance to the sun. Start out with just a few minutes daily, gradually adding more time until you can be out for a few hours without burning.

[RawSar]

If you are burning, you can build up a tolerance to the sun. Start out with just a few minutes daily, gradually adding more time until you can be out for a few hours without burning.

This is exactly what I've been doing.
I have some scotish in me and burn very easily. I am very pale but with the short sun exposures lately I have a pretty good base tan.. I am aiming to get pretty dark this summer!!

[Inca_faerie]

Peoples....you do know there is such a thing as NATURAL NON TOXIC SUNSCREEN!! Pop into your local health food store and see what you find.

My fave kind.
http://www.aubrey-organics.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=251

This is the chemical culprit in most suncreens (the worst one anyways, other than parabens, etc.)
http://www.ewg.org/node/26212


As for the sun causing skin cancer, that's a load of hooey. What causes the cancer is the chemical crap people slather on themselves day by day.

As for skin damage though hanging out in the sun with no protection is pretty much like asking for wrinkles. You'll get away with it in your teens and early twenties but soon after the damage will start to show and you'll smack yourself on the head for not being more careful. You've also gotta remember that the ozone is quite a bit weaker than it used to be, thus the suns rays getting through are harsher.

I'm sometimes out in the morning sun and evening sun but I stay out of the high noon sun (strongest at this time) like it's death.

It's pretty safe to say that my friends who tan look about 5-7 years older than me. I don't see what the north american obsession with tanning is, I prefer pale soft porcelain youthful skin over looking like a leather handbag anyday...but hey that's just me. Happy roasting.:D

[RawYorkCity]

I don't like being in the sun (don't shoot me!). I'm pale yes, and I do burn easily, but I have some color to me because my cheeks are rosy and the darkness of my hair/eyes fools people into thinking I'm darker (I hope haha). Mostly it's the heat that bothers me. Early morning and evenings are nice, but man during the afternoon I feel horrible.

I understand the obsession with being tan. My mom now lives in Florida, so she is disturbingly tan. It's as if she transformed, but she says she receives so many compliments for it. My sister is also a tanaholic. I guess the great thing about where I live is that a legit beach is too far away, so staying indoors or in the shade isn't out of the ordinary.

[T-Bird]

If any are interested, I tried out my non-chemical sunscreen yesterday.....listed as 30 spf

It gave my face this whitish tint, didn't absorb, looked zinc oxidish....like the life guards at the beach have on their nose. Weird! after about 30 mins I looked more normal.

Anyway - in all I spent about 1/3 the day out 2/3 in going in and out working in the yard, the house, then shopping for plants which were primarily outdoors, etc.

Still my nose got a wee bit burnt, nothing painful.

That's my report.

ETA: I've been 100% for almost 4 solid months, 50% prior to that......