View Full Version : Have you healed yourself of candida with raw??
08-04-2005, 06:55 PM
I have heard that it is not necessary to eliminate fruits when youre on the raw diet. does anyone have any experience with candida and success? I am just so fed up with the way it has screwed up my life for the past three years..and I just want to know that raw is the key. I read something where paul nison said that proper food combining in raw would eliminate candida! I certainly hope so!! Thanks guys!
08-04-2005, 07:24 PM
before raw, I suffered from bad breath and frequent vaginal infections. I went raw 2 years ago. My bad breath was gone very soon after that (don't remember now, perhaps in 2 weeks). I never eliminated fruit from my diet, in fact the amount of fruit I ate only got higher and higher. In my first year of raw, I still suffered from infections, despite being all-raw. As I progressed, my diet changed to lower-in-fat. Then, my infections stopped.
Also, read Nora's experience at http://www.rawschool.com and Christy's testimony at http://www.shazzie.com/raw/transformation/christy.shtml
According to what I read elsewhere, candida feeds on sugar, but it is not caused by eating fruit. Rather, when one eats high-fat diet, sugar is not digested properly, and this causes a problem. On a low-fat diet, sugar from fruit is absorbed very quickly. This explains why high-fruit low-fat diet helps in eliminating excess candida (candida is always present in our body). I read very many posts by those who eliminated candida in a matter of days, by doing just that, eating lots of fruit (and not a lot of fat). And, I read posts by those who eat lots of nuts and stay away from fruit, because they think it causes their candida (as each time they start eating lots of fruit, without changing their other habbit, the symptoms return). According to the rules of food combining, one should not mix fruit and fat.
I could not imagine my life without fruit.
All the best,
08-05-2005, 02:45 AM
Can't tell you yet. I went to the Naturopath yesterday and they did a live blood analysis and apparently I have candida? I don't necessarily feel as though I have any symptons except for a digestive system that isn't functioning as well as what it should. Anyway nat. said stay away from yeast and sugar so I asked about fruit she said that thats fine to eat still. I have read as Gosia said that fruit and a low fat diet is fine when treating Candida but it does need to be low fat. (I think that was on Doug Grahams site).
Hope this helps a bit
08-05-2005, 08:07 PM
Gosia, you have really confirmed what I have been feeling. I have had this sense for so ling that eliminating fruit was NOT the answer! Thanks so much..another question how do you determine what amount of fat to include in your diet? Percentage of cals? Or servings? I am planning on eating 1 serv. of nuts per day and possibly 2 eggs a day (not raw but i am where i am:) What do you think?
08-05-2005, 11:21 PM
Yes, eating raw healed my candida. I limited fats instead of fruit and had great results.
I can't really comment on your question about determining the amount of fats to eat, though, since you're not eating raw. So, my experience can't be a guide to you. However, 2 eggs a day is a LOT of fat ... and it's the bad kind of fat.
I've never heard of the low-fat approach to eliminating candida being used or working with a cooked food diet.
I am not in any way condemning you -- just a little confused about why you'd ask the question about healing with raw food when you're not going to be doing this?
Good luck -- and peace be with you.
08-06-2005, 12:29 AM
I believe that yes, eating raw in addition to eliminating all fruits except for grapefruit and kiwi has helped me get rid of Candida entirely, and I had been suffering with it for over 20 years!Also, I took Candidstroy for Months in conjunciton with the raw diet.
I didnot eliminate any fats, in fact, I ate coconut oil moning and night, and all the nuts and seeds I could stand.
Hope this helps.
08-06-2005, 10:35 AM
I am at the beginning of my journey, in response to your question, and so 75% raw for me is absolutely fabulous! I asked the question because my diet will be composed of mainly raw foods and I will moving to a higher percentage as my body gradually adjusts. I asked the question mainly to find out whether people felt that fruit had to be eliminated, as that makes up a large part of my diet. Thanks for your input:)
08-06-2005, 06:13 PM
the % of fat in my diet has been declining spontaneously. I do'nt know if I would be capable of adhering to a certain regime of eating. My gues is that I would find it very hard. It is hard enough to try to change life-long habbits. Trying to follow some strict rules would only make it much harder, in my view. In this sense, I very much agree with what Alissa is advocating. Another raw foodist, Nora Lenz, who I admire greatly, also says something very similar.
In my first year, I ate lot of nuts and avoes, ans other sources of fat, then later my desire for such amount of fat diminished spontaneously. Now, I no longer use olive oil, which I used regularly in salad dressings, in my first year. Instead, I use tahini (say 1-2 tablespoon per person day) mixed with aicidic fruit (lemon/orange/strawberries), I eat nuts only occasionally, and avocadoes not so much and not every day either.
I do not know the % of fat I eat, but I do know that it is way lower than it was. Gradually, as I was eating more and more fruit, I did not feel the need for so much fat, because I was getting enough calories from the fruit. One day, months ago, I checked a particular day using fitday.com, and it was about 10%, but this does not mean that it is like this every day. It could well be above that on other days. I do not recommend using fitday on daily basis, for the same reason I would not like following strict rules in my diet. I believe that freedom and fun are important.
If you would like to calculate the % of fat in your diet duirng a particular day, then fitday.com is suitable for that. A sensible way of calculating is using % in relation to energy rather than mass or volume, and fitday provides that. You need to enter all the foods you ate during day. Just remember, all these is an approximation, and do not worry about the result. You are at the beginning of your journey and the last thing you need is to start worrying about %s. The focus on being perfect, which unfortunately, I went through, was a tiring and unnecessary experience. I made some effort not to be such a perfectionist, and it made my life much easier, and my experience with raw foods much more pleasurable.
All the best,
08-07-2005, 11:18 AM
I find your posts very encouraging because you sound to me very balanced. Thank you so much for the insightful information.. One last question if you don't mind..so you do eat a bit of fat, with no more candida symptoms? Do you eat bananas? Ok that was two:) thanks again so much
08-07-2005, 12:33 PM
Coconut oil is full of lauric acid a very strong anti viral it only occurs in coconuts and breast milk - so it's a good for helping your body to fight many things including Candida when used as part of a low - glycemic diet.
The best way forward is a Living Foods low - glycemic diet.
which is nut's & seeds, all greens, most vegetables but not ( carrots, hard squash, yams, sweet potatoes, pumkins, parsnips, beets)
Summer Squash is fine as is zucchini.
Sea vegtables are great as is Sea Salt ( this helps the body in making stomach acids which of course aid in breaking all this raw food)
Tomatoes, Avocados, Cucumber, Red Bell Pepper.
Cold Pressed virgin oil's as follows:
flax oil, hemp oil, olive oil.
Super Green powders there are a few good ones on the market.
But this is it for 3 months. then you can start adding some berries to your diet raspberries, strawberries, blueberries, cherries.
Grapefruit sorry to say should also be left out for the first three months.
This only my second post and i'm not pushing Gabriel Cousens Book " Rainbow Green Live Food Cuisine " but you will find recipes for what he call's Phase 1 ( the first three months on a raw food low - glycemic diet.)
Wheatgrass of course is always amazingly good for us.
Also Dr Robert Young I've heard has done a lot of work in this field although I haven't tried his products yet.
pH Miracle Diet Book by Dr. Robert O. Young
A lot of people are talking about a product called Threelac again I haven't tried it.
08-07-2005, 05:51 PM
I do eat a bit of fat, in my evening salad, it is usually tahini, perhaps 1 to 1 and 1/2 tablespoons. Sometimes, I have avocadoes with it. But I have been finding recently that if I have too many avo pieces in my salad, I usually pass them to my husband. So, 1/2 avocado would be perhaps a little bit too much for me. There are days, where I might have more fat than usual. I eat bananas daily, perhaps 10 per day. I do not have candida symptoms anymore. Phew!
Things I eat daily: fruit (all day, sweet fruit like bananas, and anything that I can get, at the moment: grapes, mandarines, pears, apples, and non-sweet fruit, like tomatoes, cucumber), greens (huge bunch daily, often with tahini-and-acidic-fruit dressing).
I do not eat olive oil or any other oil, no supplements, powders, dehydrated foods, wheatgrass, or other things that do not feel natural to me. By natural I mean unprocessed, growing on a tree, for example, and suitable for humans (for example, grains are suitable for birds, grass is suitable for cows etc). I do not recommend high-fat diet that, for example, Cousens is prescribing, but rather the high-fruit, high-greens and low-fat diet that is recommended by Dr Graham, Nora Lenz or Jamie and other fruit-loving people. I guess, I love fruit too! I emphasize that I eat this way not because I follow someone else's idea, but because that's how I like it.
I have been finding that fruit is very hydrating. I hardly ever drink any water, because I eat lot of juicy fruit. My skin is softer than ever and my feet, which ued to be thick and rough, are not like that anymore. I think that eating lots of greens has partly contributed to that too.
All the best,
08-07-2005, 06:54 PM
Gosia, I have been eating very similarly to what you describe and my mental clarity is so much better. I used to get panic attacks just going out in public- now they're gone...I am also soo happy because I used to sleep ALL the time, now I actually have energy. So yes, it's great to hear your experience in the long term.
Thanks so much to everyone for their input and time:)
08-08-2005, 09:37 AM
thanks peanut, I'm going to go read alissa's story!
08-10-2005, 08:16 AM
Interesting symptoms popped up the other day-
I have been eating all raw with lots of fruit and veggies- no fats really. Then I decided to have some bananas...ended up having three in smoothies. Well by mid-afternoon I was having symptoms of panic and extreme lethargy/brain fog. I started going into a frenzy just because of the phone ringing..It freaked me out because it is basically what i had experienced about a yr ago before i began changing my diet///So I think maybe my body isn't ready for the fat in the bananas yet...
What do you all think (in relation to this thread/candida) ? And also, do you think there will come a day when my body and candida will be balanced enough for me to eat bananas again without the bad reaction?
08-10-2005, 08:09 PM
Do you usually eat bananas? They're one of the highest on the glycemic index. I know when I take a break from really sweet fruits, I get heart palpitations when I eat bananas or mangoes. Not all the time, sometimes though. It is a lot of sugar going into your system that you may not be used to.
08-10-2005, 08:34 PM
I work in the raw field and have been primarily raw for a yr, with NO SUCCESS ELIMINATING MY CANDIDA. Symptoms subside when water-fasting...after that it comes right back. I have tried tons of stuff, I finally found out about a new, all-natural SUPER POWERFUL invention called Vital Force Technology. I know the russian scientist who is patenting it and ONLY 5 DOCTORS ARE AWARE OF IT AND USING IT---AND 2 ARE VETS. It is bio-energetically enhanced minerals---so it's cool to use while detoxing and raw. Actually, it's GREAT to use then. This doc is saving my life. This is the product that kills candida, totally (and works on ALL Microbials). Read about this---it's ENERGY-ENHANCED, and works on a MERIDIAN, ENERGETIC LEVEL. It is HUGE--and has been working on my friend's dogs (who are off their thyroid and allergy meds----they are not on Zeta Force, though, they are on other stuff). You know the energy field that shows up in kirlian images? THAT is what is put into this stuff. It's a miracle....and the only thing that has given me hope. We are meant to eat raw, but we DO need more at times. Superfoods and energy work, etc. Even raw foods are not what they used to be...it's scary!
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The best doc to monitor your candida is the guy that invented not the technology, but these products (I take Mineral Force, too): www.drdavisdc.nmd
The site for the russian rocket scientist who invented the technology, to read all about this, is: www.energytoolsint.com
And the site for the products, period, is www.nutri-link.com But I let Dr. Davis monitor me----
BY THE WAY, ALTHOUGH YOU CANNOT BE "RECKLESS", SINCE THIS WORKS ENERGETICALLY YOU CAN EAT YOUR BANANAS OR AN AVOCADO IN PEACE, AND DON'T HAVE TO EAT TIPTOEING ON EGGSHELLS DUE TO YOUR CANDIDA. LET'S FACE IT, YOU CAN'T EAT ANYTHING WHEN YOU HAVE CANDIDA AND ARE A RAW VEGAN! :-) (But what you CAN eat is of course what you SHOULD be eating anyways, huh? :-)
08-10-2005, 09:28 PM
please keep in mind that candida is always present in our bodies, and it actually plays a beneficial role: eating excess sugar, when it has not been properly absorbed in. So, in this sense, it is very useful indeed. So, what causes sugar not to be properly absorbed in? Fat. An example of a soap helped me to understand why is this so. Soap contains fat, which makes things stick to it. Similarly, excess fat in our blood makes sugars stick to them, and slows down their absorption. In the absence of fat, sugars get absorbed very quickly. This is why one of the food combining rules is not to eat fruit and nuts at the same time. And, this also explains why people who minimize their fat consumption, are able to get rid of candida overgrowth (not candida altogether) in a matter of days (sugar gets absorbed, candida starves and dies out). But, you need to do it for more than just one day, to achieve that. Sometimes, a gradual transition may be the key. Not everyone jumps to a high-fruit low-fat diet instantly. I did not. But, I am happy to eat lots of fruit and greens now, and I do not suffer from candida symptoms anymore.
I've had this insidious candida overgrowth for at least 23 years. I've experimented and spent a fortune on antifungals to kill the overgrowth w/ minimal to no success. I only made appreciable progress when I went to a low glycemic raw fruit diet(I know it seems like a paradox) w/ minimal fat intake and sweating is key to clear the detox load from the liver. Eliminate the toxins from the skin using a sauna @ 130-140 degrees for at least 45 minutes-if no access to a sauna use a hot bath. This thankfully worked for me. The good thing is that the results present themselved in a couple of days.
following 811 has really cleared up my skin - which I think was bad because of candida (I ate a LOT of fat) - so yeah - go fruits!!:D
Can't believe I used to be afraid of them!
11-04-2006, 05:36 AM
Just my walk, but I had to stay away from fruit to tame mine. It was awful.
Lucky for me, I do love veggies though.
11-04-2006, 06:18 AM
My experience has been similar to Gosia and others.
When I was eating fat and fruits I was having yeast infections. I dropped out my fat and it naturally went back into control !
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