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rawstrength
04-13-2009, 10:25 AM
Did you know that all bottled spring water is pasteurized and causes an immune response when you drink it? :eek:
I've been drinking water fresh from springs and it is totally amazing. I've visited several springs in NY, CT and MA, so if you live in these states, please email me at ezo@comcast.net and I will gladly help you find a spring near you so you can start drinking real, raw water ;D . It really is the most pure, best water you can drink.

Ilse W.
04-13-2009, 10:37 AM
I distill my water. Spring water is great, as long as you can be sure that the water has not been contaminated by surrounding farms and industry. "Pasteurized" just means boiled. It's still H2O. I get my minerals from veggies.

JennaBoBenna
04-13-2009, 11:11 AM
I use a Brita filter for water from my sink.

I'd like to drink water from springs, but do you have to do anything to clean the water? It's safe to drink right from the spring?

kaybee
04-13-2009, 01:18 PM
i WISH i could find spring water..... theres loads of springs here, but i have yet to find one thats not contaminated by sheep, even high up on the mountain tops the sheep wander everywhere :( my water is town water and tastes AWFUL, even after having had a trip through the britta :(

Humanist
04-13-2009, 01:59 PM
I distill my water and have had no "immune response" from it. My "pasteurized" water is not dead. It has power to cause seeds to sprout. I make beautiful sprouts with my "pasteurized" water.

Even the clearest spring water contains inorganic minerals that can cause hardening of the arteries and other health problems. As I have said before, on a raw diet there should be no need to drink water, or anything else. Organically-grown raw food is full of the cleanest water available.

juliebove
04-13-2009, 10:11 PM
There's a spring near me but I've never been to it. It's always so busy with people there is no parking!

Humanist
04-13-2009, 10:20 PM
"Spring water contains an amount of earthy ingredients which is fearful to contemplate. It certainly differs very much in different districts and at various depths; but it has been calculated that water of an average quality contains so much carbonate and other compounds of lime, that a person drinking an average quantity each day will, in 40 years, have taken as much into the body as would form a pillar of solid chalk or marble as large as a good-sized man."

"The solid earth matter which by gradual accumulation in the body brings on ossification, rigidity, decrepitude, and death is principally phosphate of lime, or bone matter; carbonate of lime, or common chalk; and sulfate of lime, or plaster of paris, with, occasionally, magnesia, and other earthy substances."
---S. ROWBOTHAM M.D., Stockport, England, 1845

Myca
04-13-2009, 11:23 PM
I grew up drinking water from an Artesian well. Visitors called it 'sulfer water'. I thought it was wonderful. Who knows what was in it. The well was 500 ft deep.

spicyfull
04-14-2009, 02:39 AM
I take it any way I can get Myself to drink it. Sometimes I don't want to drink as much as I should. I do a better job of keeping Hydrated in the Summer Months. So now I add a little Apple Cider Vinegar to any and all water and it makes it easier for me to drink.

kaybee
04-14-2009, 04:14 AM
hmmm...even if we are eating a water-rich raw diet, i DO still think its natural to need/to drink additional water...even strictly herbivorous animals still drink water and they are eating ALL raw food....

spicyfull--making herbal teas with warm water or even "sun" teas makes the water attractive to me to drink. you might want to try that. or maybe if you dont water, your body doesnt need it. depends on how you feel. I actually use boiling water and do infusions (i think its 1/4 cup herb or maybe 100 g or herb, i forget, i kind of estimate, to a quart of water, pour a quart of boiling water over the herb in a glass jar, put on the top, and leave for 4 hours or overnight. then strain and drink. my understanding is that if you use dried herb and boiliing water, you will actually end up with some of the nutritional elements coming out into the water in a way that isnt possible if you use fresh herb and/or not boiling water, as you need the cell walls to be broken to get the "good stuff" out. anyway, i do this with nettles alot, and i feel really good drinking it. its like a "multivitamin" but natural. and im really attracted to drinking it.

rawstrength
04-14-2009, 01:10 PM
Drinking water with natural minerals in it does not cause hardening of the arteries. Look at deer drinking water from springs and streams with minerals in them . . . they are not dying of heart attacks lol. No animals in nature drink distilled water. We weren't born with distillers attached to us.

Water from a true spring is in an aquifer that is sealed off from the surrounding environment, so it will not be contaminated. YOU DO NOT NEED TO CLEAN IT! Cleaning it defeats the purpose.

By the way, most springs do not have a lot of minerals in them, anyways. The water from my spring has 10 ppb of dissolved solids. Distilled water has 0-5 ppb of dissolved solids. Tap water has 1,000+ ppb of dissolved solids.

Brita filters do not remove fluoride, perchlorates and pharmaceutical drugs, the worst contaminates in our tap water.

Humanist
04-14-2009, 02:29 PM
Yes, animals do sometimes drink from springs and streams, but they often face food shortages in the wild. There is a big difference between organic and inorganic minerals. The calcium gluconate in carrots can be easily assimilated; calcium from an inorganic source such as dolomite cannot. The latter can cause hardening of the arteries, kidney stones, etc. "Natural" minerals can be very harmful if they do not come from something that was once alive. Aquifers are not "sealed off" from the surrounding environment. They percolate through it. Yes, we were not born with distillers attached to us, because nature intended us to get our water from foods.

rawstrength
04-14-2009, 02:47 PM
In my mind there is no debate. Spring water at the source makes me feel the best. And if anyone wants to join me in drinking this excellent water that has been purified by percolating through the earth over thousands of years, then I am happy to help them find a spring nearby.

kaybee
04-14-2009, 03:08 PM
do animals really only drink water when there are food shortages? that seems unlikely!??

piccolittle
04-14-2009, 03:19 PM
do animals really only drink water when there are food shortages? that seems unlikely!??

Yeah, that can't possibly be true. My horses graze all day, and they still need their water trough.

Ilse W.
04-14-2009, 04:03 PM
Your horses are not wild animals. They have to drink water because of what you feed them.

Humanist
04-14-2009, 04:57 PM
do animals really only drink water when there are food shortages? that seems unlikely!??

And perhaps in very hot weather. But deserts teem with animal life. Where do desert animals get their water? From food.

People who eat raw food but still feel thirsty are probably using salt. Salt is the reason.

DebB
04-15-2009, 12:47 AM
I wish I knew where there are some springs here - I'd love to have that water. Our city water tastes terrible, even after it goes through our reverse osmosis...

You're lucky to have springs nearby. I was just watching Phillip McCluskey's latest YouTube video a few minutes ago - there he was, bottling his water from a spring. *Ü*

kaybee
04-15-2009, 05:16 AM
yeah i understand why the horses would need water...but what about deer and elephants? they seem to drink water on a regular basis, even in the wild.

anyway, i WISH i could find a safe natural spring too :( my water is SO bad. chlorine and goodness knows what else. and comes through some kind of plastic/rubber tubing into my house. yum. :mad: SO FRUSTRATING that the sheep are into EVERYWHERE! for a land (here) so rich in resources like natural springs, seaweed, and green stuff to forage, its frustrating that so much of these resources are made unuseable because of pollution from fishing boats, animal agriculture, people burning their trash, etc. :mad::mad:

Humanist
04-15-2009, 01:26 PM
Deer and elephants are very different from us. Monkeys are better examples. According to the Dept. of Anthropolpgy at UCLA:

"A survey of field studies of wild chimpanzees indicates that they have very little contact with water. In contrast, chimpanzees in captivity frequently drink standing water, possibly because their diet is low in water content. Two of the semi-free-ranging chimpanzees observed in this study would immerse themselves to waist-level in moat water, replacing former behavior patterns of water avoidance."

contessa20
04-15-2009, 02:13 PM
Deer and elephants are very different from us. Monkeys are better examples. According to the Dept. of Anthropolpgy at UCLA:

"A survey of field studies of wild chimpanzees indicates that they have very little contact with water. In contrast, chimpanzees in captivity frequently drink standing water, possibly because their diet is low in water content. Two of the semi-free-ranging chimpanzees observed in this study would immerse themselves to waist-level in moat water, replacing former behavior patterns of water avoidance."

And yet, while an interesting factoid, I find it has no bearing on me as a human given that I'm not... you know... a chimpanzee. No matter how closely related humans and chimps may be, the fact remains that we are still two very different species. The question is not whether animals in nature drink or don't drink water, it's whether humans can or even should live without it.

Humanist
04-15-2009, 03:23 PM
Right. We are not chimps. Animals in nature live under different conditions. They often have to deal with long dry seasons during which the water content of their food declines. Their food is not artificially irrigated, as ours is. My point is, let thirst be your guide. Eat only when you are hungry, drink only when you are dry. On an ample raw food diet, you should not experience thirst under normal conditions, unless you use salt, or unless you are diabetic.

piccolittle
04-15-2009, 03:27 PM
So in the same way that thirst is often mistaken for hunger...

The fact that I do not consume salt yet have a great deal of thirst could, by your reasoning, indicate that I am not eating enough?

Humanist
04-15-2009, 03:44 PM
I don't know why you are thirsty. How long have you been eating raw?

Dr. Densmore wrote in 1892:
"Those persons who are able to live on a fruit and nut diet do not need any drink; if an abundance of fruit as prepared by nature is to be had, all the water needed by the system is contained in such fruit."

This has been my experience since 2002, when I stopped using salt.

Humanist
04-16-2009, 02:44 PM
Water requires no digestion. That is why distilled water is just as good as "raw" water. Better, in fact, because most of the dissolved solids in "raw" water, being from inorganic sources, are harmful to the human body.

diamondscape
04-16-2009, 02:57 PM
Hey
I will add my bit because I am a bit of a water fanatic...
I recently found a spring that this local small town protects and maintains. It is absolutely the best water I have had yet. It took me finally calling our county commissioner and asking... He is an old timer and had LOTS of good info. So now I go there and I am meeting people that come from 2 hours away just to fill up there. The natives lived around this spring for many many years because of its obvious health and healing benefits.
My husband says it reminds him of his granny's water. And we have all experienced healthier skin, hair and nails since we have been drinking it. What I believe is that good water that comes from the source bubbling and spiraling out from the cool ground TO us helps to actually hydrate our cells. in a way that processed water cannot. Most of us cannot eat all from our back yard or even town. (I am working on this though for my family). so The water you get from all those fruits and veggies is caught in some other state too long ago too be enough in my opinion.
I love water though. It is amazing. And so much of what water is, is energetic. It holds the shape of energy kind of like a crystal. I need the life blood of the earth. And this is kind of how I see this beautiful water.
When I go to this spring now I wash my hair and body. ANd it feels AMAZING.... there should be a 30 day raw water challenge!!!
Peace

rawstrength
04-16-2009, 02:59 PM
Hey
I will add my bit because I am a bit of a water fanatic...
I recently found a spring that this local small town protects and maintains. It is absolutely the best water I have had yet. It took me finally calling our county commissioner and asking... He is an old timer and had LOTS of good info. So now I go there and I am meeting people that come from 2 hours away just to fill up there. The natives lived around this spring for many many years because of its obvious health and healing benefits.
My husband says it reminds him of his granny's water. And we have all experienced healthier skin, hair and nails since we have been drinking it. What I believe is that good water that comes from the source bubbling and spiraling out from the cool ground TO us helps to actually hydrate our cells. in a way that processed water cannot. Most of us cannot eat all from our back yard or even town. (I am working on this though for my family). so The water you get from all those fruits and veggies is caught in some other state too long ago too be enough in my opinion.
I love water though. It is amazing. And so much of what water is, is energetic. It holds the shape of energy kind of like a crystal. I need the life blood of the earth. And this is kind of how I see this beautiful water.
When I go to this spring now I wash my hair and body. ANd it feels AMAZING.... there should be a 30 day raw water challenge!!!
Peace

I totally agree with you! Let's do a 30 day raw water challenge! And it sounds like you've found an awesome spring :cool: .

diamondscape
04-16-2009, 03:14 PM
Oh yeah...
I forgot to say if anyone in DFW wants to know where this is let me know. And there is also one I found online and heard a local person stay is good in Salado. Which is just north of Austin if anyone wants to check it out.
Peace

And HEck YES with the Raw Water Challenge!!!

Bookish Lass
04-16-2009, 04:43 PM
Did you know that all bottled spring water is pasteurized and causes an immune response when you drink it? :eek:


Are there articles or studies or something about heated water causing an immune reaction? I'd like to read more about it. :)

Humanist
04-16-2009, 05:50 PM
Do you grind up chalk and add it to your smoothies? Do you add plaster of Paris? Dolomite? Powdered limestone? Sand? These are the ingredients you get, in solution, when you drink spring water. They cannot be assimilated by the human body. They can do nothing but harm. It has been demonstrated that hardening of the arteries is prevalent in hard water areas and rare in regions devoid of lime. Hard water = hard arteries.

deberaw
04-16-2009, 08:54 PM
...anybody know of any Springs as close as possible to Kalamazoo Michigan??!......I would love to have some Spring water!

RawSar
04-16-2009, 11:10 PM
We have the reverse osmosis and ultra violet light to filter our water at home. Any other kind of water is water to me, bottled, spring I believe nothing beats the filteration system we have.
I am one who loves my water, I drink as much as I can. I don't think I could ever be able to eat enough to get enough hydration from food. Same reason why I take supplements. I don't eat salt or dehydrated foods. I just think there's so much pollution and what not around us that drinking water through out the day will help flush toxins and chemicals out.

I've met people who drink very little water and who are raw vegan and I remember what their skin looked like... very very dry...
I just don't want to take that risk.