Near-Absence of soreness after weight lifting

[rawbabymama]

Edited to be more clear...

For weight lifting people: Is an absence of soreness after working out just a benefit of being raw, or does it mean I went too easy on my weights?



Best Wishes,

Michele

[T-Bird]

idk -
I've been raw 3+months, so not quite long term.

I sauna 15-20 and shower right after, then before bedtime I love an epsom salt soak if I have time/energy to do it.

I still get sore.

In your routine, do you push to complete muscle failure? i.e. you do a press until you are panting pushing and can't do another rep?

[Blazin'Jane]

It could be that I don't work hard enough in weights, but I never am sore afterwards. However, I can tell you that RAW does make a difference with fatigue after exercise. I ride the MS 150 bike ride every year, and for the 2 years I've ridden it RAW, I have had nothing hurt after the two 75 mi. days of cycling. This is remarkable to me, as I am 67 and many of my fellow riders are much younger, stronger, and hurt way more after the ride!

[rawffle]

I've read a few people who were already very fit write about not being nearly as sore after working out when they were raw. I think it's just another benefit :)

[rawbabymama]

idk -
I've been raw 3+months, so not quite long term.

I sauna 15-20 and shower right after, then before bedtime I love an epsom salt soak if I have time/energy to do it.

I still get sore.

In your routine, do you push to complete muscle failure? i.e. you do a press until you are panting pushing and can't do another rep?

Sorry...I just saw this. I am using machines(all I have right now), so it may be that I need an in between amount, but I do the highest amount of weight I can do with 6 per set & still make it through the last set, but I am usually really working at the last 3 reps & can't do any more after that, so muscle failure on the last set only. If I reach muscle failure on the first set, that is it for me.

I do recover from lifting weights really quickly, even before, but the absence of soreness had me questioning myself. This past week I actually had a lot of soreness (hah! jinxed myself), but I was also under a lot of stress.

Do you do muscle failure every set?

[rawbabymama]

I've read a few people who were already very fit write about not being nearly as sore after working out when they were raw. I think it's just another benefit :)

How lovely!

[rawbabymama]

It could be that I don't work hard enough in weights, but I never am sore afterwards. However, I can tell you that RAW does make a difference with fatigue after exercise. I ride the MS 150 bike ride every year, and for the 2 years I've ridden it RAW, I have had nothing hurt after the two 75 mi. days of cycling. This is remarkable to me, as I am 67 and many of my fellow riders are much younger, stronger, and hurt way more after the ride!

This is wonderful! And how impressive are you!?! Thanks for replying. :D

[theresaann]

being alkaline will virtually eliminate muscle soreness. High or all raw can do that as long as its alkaline forming-not too many nuts or fruits or dehydrated stuff

[T-Bird]

Sorry...I just saw this. I am using machines(all I have right now), so it may be that I need an in between amount, but I do the highest amount of weight I can do with 6 per set & still make it through the last set, but I am usually really working at the last 3 reps & can't do any more after that, so muscle failure on the last set only. If I reach muscle failure on the first set, that is it for me.

I do recover from lifting weights really quickly, even before, but the absence of soreness had me questioning myself. This past week I actually had a lot of soreness (hah! jinxed myself), but I was also under a lot of stress.

Do you do muscle failure every set?
Reply With Quote

LOL rawbabymama! Now I'm 4+ months at 100%

I do to muscle failure most times. Once I get to 15 reps, without it, I up the ante on the weight next time at the Gym.

I don't hurt all the time after a workout - I do have to really push myself and go to total muscle failure. I'm in building mode - so I try to do that most of the time. Once I get enough muscle, I'll tone it down a bit.

[Johnny B]

Your diet and other habits certainly can play a part in how sore you are after a work out. Soreness is simply the result of muscle tissue damage and the inflammation that ensues as a result.

But definitely don't judge the quality or effectiveness of the work out by the extent of soreness thereafter. You'll know if you're working "hard enough" if you're seeing consistent progression (whether it's in weight, technique, volume, distance, recovery, etc.) and by whether or not you're moving closer to your intended goal.

[theresaann]

This is from becoming more alkaline on raw. Soreness is caused by lactic acid and muscle tears, which are healed faster and the lower acidity from raw is buffers the lactic. Isn't that cool? :)

[T-Bird]

ok- now I'm at 5+ months at 100% - still sore after a hard workout - some muscle 2 days down sore......

I eat mostly greens and fruits, so idk.....

Will keep you posted on my progress.......;)

[Draginvry]

Pain and weakness is not an indicator of how much strength you have gained, but how much lactic acid is present in the body.

Someone who used X amount of energy lifting Y amount of weight is going to gain Z amount of strength. The only difference is that if they have a poor diet, they are going to hurt like hell.

[jurence]

If you do the same routine you will still build muscle but you will not get as sore. I am in good shape but havent done pushups in a long time. I did 20 pushups yesterday and my chest is sore, despite the fact that I work my chest 3x a week. If you read up on what REALLY makes you sore (no, it isn't lactic acid) then you will find out that it has to do with your body adjusting to new muscle growth and white blood cells. Once your body is completely adjusted to new muscle being developed in the same spot, your body stops attacking it and recognizes it as its own.. if it starts growing anywhere else though it freaks out and starts attacking it until it normalizes there, too.

[tkxii]

Yea honeslty, the least soreness I experienced ever was when i used to occasionally take whey protein before my workouts. But then again, i did front squatting for the first time in months, and only my inner thighs are a bit sore, and i've been 100% raw for about 18ish days now. before then it was like 90% raw anyway, but still someone touched on it here, its the inflammation response causing soreness. I used to take, and still do, spices after my workouts, like turmeric, black pepper, cinnamon, coriander, those are all anti-inflammatory. So yes being raw helps, but no it's not the only way to avoid soreness.

[Draginvry]

If you want an example of strength, find some pictures of the member here who formerly posted under the username FruitarianOne. I can't remember his official website off the top of my head. The old members will remember him from the insane workout videos he posted.

He was fruitarian for a long time. He said he could run and it wouldn't even feel like he was doing any work.

[jurence]

This thread might help (if you are curious about frutarianone) http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?t=19200

[SekhemNefer]

ok- now I'm at 5+ months at 100% - still sore after a hard workout - some muscle 2 days down sore......

I eat mostly greens and fruits, so idk.....

Will keep you posted on my progress.......;)

I get sore as well. But maybe we need to discuss if this soreness is from regular strength training itself, or from over doing it. And how do you know which one you are doing to yourself?

That's the question.

[surfsup]

I was raw for 30 days only before. And during that time, my fatigue was pushed back, I had a lot of energy.

I also experienced less soreness.

I am planning to do more raw but right now its difficult and just did a vaca for two weeks (and have friends from outta town for another 3 weeks).

I'm not at the point yet mentally where I can walk away from a good steak or something, either. We'll see how things go as time progresses.