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Veronica01
04-01-2009, 09:39 AM
I guess my sis told her best friend who's a nutritionist and celiac, about my raw food diet and she is freaking out. She's saying it's just a fad and she doesn't know a single nutritionist that would reccommend it and suggests that i find a local nutritionist and PAY them to make meal plans for me and look at my diet. I was under the impression this girl was tolerant and wanted to suggest a classmate that needed consultation hours to graduate, so now I am quite peeved... She said i'm following a diet that is harmful to my health and it is just a fad... wow. I myself don't get it. If I was deathly allergic to wheat and almost everything packaged and processed had wheat in it i would make my own food and probably eat more fruits and vegetables anyways... But for some reason some celiacs are so upset about this burden they choose to eat more gluten free processed food just because it won't kill them tomorrow. I just told her thanks but I had a lot of resources and would monitor my b12 intake and i'm not paying someone to criticize me that's never tried it. That'd be like training for the olympics under a person who's never exercised in their life...

freshlight
04-01-2009, 09:50 AM
Why even listen to those peeps? Just enjoy your raw life and ignore thier opinion, I'd say

Veganforlife
04-01-2009, 09:50 AM
I would ignore the stupid comments. Just because someone is a "book smart" nutritionist, doesn't mean they are healthy or know health.

I am a nutritionist for ME - MY BODY.

Why do you care what they think? Are you trying to justify what you are doing? If you are eating Raw and feeling good, then THAT is all that matters, right?

The heck with the ones that claim they know.

A fad? Well, I guess Mama Earth is a fad too because she is the supplier of Raw foods...

::walks away shaking head and chuckling::

Raw Joy
04-01-2009, 10:15 AM
You have to remember, she's only repeating what she's been taught. Her degree or schooling has ingrained in her that you need so much protein, so many nutrients that you can only get from cooked food, that just fruit can cause diabetes, etc.

She may just be concerned. Either way, don't let yourself fret over it.

Veronica01
04-01-2009, 10:26 AM
I'm just annoyed. I didn't even tell this girl, she doesn't even live in the same city as me but now she's frowning on me for eating fruits and vegetables. I don't care what she thinks, but i don't need her telling my sister everything i'm doing is bad for me and causing more problems. My sis is trying to eat healthIER now than before. But i find it hard to believe that nutrionists will accept that people won't give up fast food or fried food, but if they do THEN they have to monitor their eating because it can't possibly be healthy.

I'm not trying to prove anything to her, but because she's spent years in school and time and money on it, if i got myself healthy for free eating only naturally it kind of makes all the effort she did pointless right. She's specializing in nutrition for those with autoimmune diseases... but really there is only one kind of nutrition as we know.

Sometimes i just want to move to an island and block out all the negativity. No one worries if animals get proper nutrition do they? There's no food police...

mattshor
04-01-2009, 11:03 AM
How immensely frustrating and deeply annoying. I've been really lucky to only have support or quiet bafflement--no outright hostility.

It seems like you have a solid center and know that you are doing the right things for yourself--just do your best to ignore the ignorant. Eventually they will run out of things to say.

Jenifae
04-01-2009, 11:36 AM
I love your analogy of:
That'd be like training for the olympics under a person who's never exercised in their life...
Laughing hysterically because, it's soooooooooo True! :D

Where do they get there education? Who runs the "Food and Drug Administration"? I assuming we're talking in America. The Pharmacuetical companies have much interested in our bad health and provide Billions of dollars and Kick-backs to have their mesage out there...............which is ? ....... health??

Moretta
04-01-2009, 11:44 AM
If you are feeling great and loving this way of eating, I would just ignore what others think or say. I know its easier said than done.

Their loss your gain.

RawLibrarian
04-01-2009, 12:00 PM
There are raw registered dieticians:

Vesanto Melina (http://www.nutrispeak.com/)
Brenda Davis (http://www.brendadavisrd.com/)

These two nutritionists were co-authors along with Cherie Soria on Cherie's book 'Raw revolution'.

cara4art
04-01-2009, 12:01 PM
Oh Veronica01! Stay strong - it seems like you are surrounded by exactly zero support from your recent posts! Don't let these people derail you at all - YOU know your body, and you're getting results, on your own. You have a wonderful strength of spirit that shines through. Most nutritionists are parroting what they've been taught, which is increasingly found to be downright wrong for a lot of people. Consider the much-vaunted US "food pyramid" that came out a number of years ago that recommended that everyone eat 6-11 servings of starches every day. Well, lots of people gained weight because they were loading up on stuff like bagels, pasta and the like. Turns out that that food pyramid is the exact same one that is used to fatten up cattle - yikes! Anyhow, keep on keeping on with your diet - the results will speak for themselves!

Veronica01
04-01-2009, 12:12 PM
I know I never want to stop with this. Each morning it is easier and easier for me to get out of bed, and i'm not exhausted at work anymore and i have the energy to prepare great meals or go shopping after work. It's still winter and I was just too exhausted before, I'd just lay around wondering what was wrong with me. I know I am taking care of myself and I am very excited and proud of that. I just can't believe that people that know me and even aquaintances are so negative at the word vegan, let alone raw. Like they'd feel better you had fries or prepackaged fake tofu meats... wow that's gross. I think it's funny i receive more negativity than "The Subway Diet" lol. I would love to not have to say anything or defend myself and just be in great shape with glowing skin and say "oh yeah i've been doing it for years, i feel great" and have people's jaws drop. :)

TaupeRawMan
04-01-2009, 12:15 PM
Rick and Karen Dina http://www.rawfooddoctors.com/

Irish_Vegan_Girl
04-01-2009, 12:29 PM
Yes, there are raw vegan nutritionists. Are you familiar with Yahoo!Answers? I never joined but I often look around it in d v%v sec, and there is a raw vegan nutritionist on it..

So it's nice to know there is supporting information.

Don't mind what she says, my doctor would tell me the same, that's why I changed, it's not really their fault, it's what they have been conditioned to think, they can't rele help it, and of course i doubt they would try to challenge their own degree.... :rolleyes:

You're in good health, that is all that really matters, oh and if you're happy:)!

iluvmangos
04-01-2009, 12:38 PM
Oh, she must have gotten the memo from the FDA that it's a fad diet. :rolleyes:

Don't worry about it. Criticizing your diet probably makes them feel better about their own.

Veronica01
04-01-2009, 12:59 PM
Oh, she must have gotten the memo from the FDA that it's a fad diet. :rolleyes:

Don't worry about it. Criticizing your diet probably makes them feel better about their own.

LOL You know i totally should have thought of that..

All i said was sorry it's not a fad and i feel great, thanks for your concern... ugh...

Veronica01
04-01-2009, 01:01 PM
Rick and Karen Dina http://www.rawfooddoctors.com/

Thats a great site. Thanks!

circle
04-01-2009, 02:33 PM
nature is an infinite sphere in which the center is everywhere and the circumference is nowhere.

everything is perfect in nature.

life is up to the individual to define.

what is health?

Veronica01
04-01-2009, 03:13 PM
I think you'd be fun in person, you always surprise me or make me laugh. :)

*RayRay*
04-01-2009, 04:28 PM
there ARE raw nutritionists! Maybe not very many, but I believe that will change someday soon!

Natalia Rose - Certified Clinical Nutritionist and author of 'The Raw Food Detox Diet', 'Raw Food: Life Force Energy', and 'The New Energy Body', ...and coming out soon is 'Detox For Women'....and yes she also has a private practice...she is in New York, but I believe she does phone consultations as well...

...oh, and...I don't think medical doctors know all that much about proper nutrition!

Veronica01
04-01-2009, 04:37 PM
This was the response I got from my sis's nutritionist friend when i told her i was being careful and would make sure i don't get deficiencies:

"Just wanted to let you know that B12 is not the only vitamin you need to watch. You are also at risk for deficiencies in: Calcium, Zinc, Vitamin D, Vitamin E, Vitamin K, Vitamin B1, B2, B3 and B6. You should try to find away to supplement these nutrients."

I don't understand why i would be deficient from calcium if i eat greens... or why not eating meat makes me deficient in vitamin d. I thought you could only get that from the sun. If i bothered every day I could check to see what vitamins im getting, but it's really hard to know how much you're supposed to need anyways as the RDA% is bogus.

*RayRay*
04-01-2009, 04:49 PM
sounds to me like you are worrying a bit too much about what other people think and believe. Do what YOU know is right and healthy, and soon you will be a shining example of true health...and no one will be able to argue with that!

Veronica01
04-01-2009, 04:50 PM
I'm not worried. My sister asked me to make sure what i was doing works scientifically as well or she will have a hard time believing i can sustain this way. It's too early to tell if i have or will develop any deficiencies, im not worried now. I may monitor it later.

mattshor
04-01-2009, 06:02 PM
Veronica, check out fitday.com and you can log your daily food intake and see that you are getting everything you need. You might consider supplementing Vit D-as far north as you live you are going months without getting intense enough sunlight for your body to produce it. Most people that live farther north have some degree of Vit D deficiency, regardless of their diet.

Colorawdo girl
04-01-2009, 06:22 PM
The day I let go of what others think was the best day of my life. Follow your bliss Veronica

shakti17
04-01-2009, 06:24 PM
yes, what is a nutritionist anyway? just because someone went to school?

i am an ayurvedic nutritionist - why though really, just because i took a course and have some papers?

school is bs, and i have a lot of degrees to prove it! i feel self study is the best...

we are our own best nutritionists! or seek advice from someone you trust who gets the results that you desire!

best not to talk raw with these types of people.....but i know it can be frustrating!

iluvmangos
04-01-2009, 06:34 PM
I'm not worried. My sister asked me to make sure what i was doing works scientifically as well or she will have a hard time believing i can sustain this way.

If my sister said that to me I might say, "Yeah, well I don't have anything to prove to you so...."

If I wanted to be nice I might say, "Thanks for your concern. How 'bout that weather?"

shakti17
04-01-2009, 06:37 PM
yes, it is a very useful trick to switch the conversation onto the other person!!! i do that whenever someone is asking me about any subject that i do not want to discuss or that brings me down...."so, how are YOU doing???"

Veronica01
04-01-2009, 10:25 PM
Yes that switching to them idea could work. She's pretty long winded though. :) I just went to a raw food potluck tonight and am pretty happy. It's nice to hang out with like minded people in person for my own sanity. I got some tips and found out info on "live blood analysis" thats an indepth assessment of your deficiancies and current health. Sounds pretty cool and it's scientific, if i do it i will definitely bring my sister to show her raw makes a difference.

iluvmangos
04-02-2009, 08:00 AM
I got some tips and found out info on "live blood analysis" thats an indepth assessment of your deficiancies and current health. Sounds pretty cool and it's scientific, if i do it i will definitely bring my sister to show her raw makes a difference.

I, personally, would not do that. I would not take anyone with me that was not supportive of my diet because what if I am deficient in something? It may just confirm in their minds that it's a dangerous diet. If they took the same test, they just might have some deficiencies, too, BUT they're probably not going to take the test.

I wouldn't even tell them I was taking the test. I'd take it by myself, in secret, the first time and if I had any difficiencies I'd get them corrected, take the test again and then give them the GOOD report, so they can quit freaking out about my diet.

Veganforlife
04-02-2009, 09:20 AM
yes, what is a nutritionist anyway? just because someone went to school?

i am an ayurvedic nutritionist - why though really, just because i took a course and have some papers?

school is bs, and i have a lot of degrees to prove it! i feel self study is the best...

we are our own best nutritionists! or seek advice from someone you trust who gets the results that you desire!

best not to talk raw with these types of people.....but i know it can be frustrating!

well said! I am MY own best nutritionist and I dare a panel of medical "experts" to question what I have done and am doing to heal and cure my body...

Veronica01
04-02-2009, 09:45 AM
I don't want to take the test to prove that im healthier than anyone... i am interested because it can help guide me in choosing the best foods for me. If it's a scientific test done by a raw foodist, i thought my sister would be interested in seeing that, as it's live blood, not preserved blood that doctors typically work on in labs...

iluvmangos
04-02-2009, 10:12 AM
Your sister might actually be more inclined to trust a regular lab test than live blood analysis since it's in the realm of "alternative medicine" and some people think that live blood analysis is quackery.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_blood_analysis

Rastadawta
04-02-2009, 01:45 PM
Greetings. I am a holistic nutritional consultate who is a raw newbie. I do plan on becoming an RD/start my masters in a few months. If u have any questions, please email me.. good luck

Veronica01
04-02-2009, 01:48 PM
Well the person who owns the live blood analysis machine does not want anyone to supplement based on his findings and does not diagnose at all.

I will think about it as im still working on a clean body and clear skin. I would never consider going to a conventional doctor again anyways. I don't even like taking supplements because i have never noticed a difference either way.

Leiloshka
08-30-2009, 06:31 PM
Thanks for the two links. I'll check them out. Anyone here going to a raw nutritionist? I'm going to a nutritionist re: an eating disorder and yes, she frowns on the raw thing. I've not been REALLY raw for about 2 years, but I felt REALLY good while doing it and want to go back to it. However, I've been told the eating disorder was making me more and more restrictive, which led me to raw in a way. Or, maybe the reason I liked raw is because I was restrictive.

Anyway, I can see how it might have played into the eating disorder and I see how I do need to give myself permission to eat "good" foods on occasion like veggies that are steamed, etc. BUT, objectively raw produced good things in my body. The #1 thing being my menstrual cycle was regular, less flow, and less or no cramping. I was amazed. This was not in my head and I wasn't restricting to the point of no period. I was a "normal" weight probably 120-125 so I was just having "normal" periods for the first time in my life!

I've remarried and have fallen into eating what's around although it's still organic and a lot of fruits and veggies, I have eaten these more cooked, etc. Anyway, my periods have been horrible and the cramps worse!!!

I MUST get more raw but want to be smart and work with someone that is a raw nutritionist (or mostly raw) and that has worked with eating disorders too.

I'm just trying to take care of myself and I think raw is a huge way to do this, but I don't want to give the eating disorder power. I'm looking for balance, but a healthy balance and I think raw is a huge part.

Anyone found a raw nutritionist and used one? Because of the lack of raw nutritionists, it does make one wonder if it's healthy. So, I'm trying to find someone in my shoes that knows of someone like I'm talking about.

THANKS!

Raw Angel Mom
08-30-2009, 07:01 PM
I just consult with a raw nutritionist, she does e-mail and phone.

She is a Holistic Nutritionist who does raw food. This is her blog http://judysnutrition.blogspot.com/ I highly recommend that you find a nutritionist/dietitian that do raw food in your area, if not you can visit Judy's blog and see if you resonate with her.

EZ rider
11-01-2009, 01:23 AM
As I read through some of the posts on this thread it really helped me to appreciate how wonderful the wholesome, fresh, raw foods are for my body. The cooked foods are damaged and fragmented. If the nutritionist mentioned in the OP thinks cooked is going to provide what the body needs and slams people for not cooking their foods then it may be best to live and let live and associate with more enlightened people.

appifanie
11-01-2009, 05:44 AM
one of my online vegan friends is related to (or friends with, i forget) a vegan nutritionist who is high raw.