do you always stay quiet?

[ruffsongraw]

hi i have a social type Q...

what do you all say (if anything) when a person is telling you a story of something you have the solution to? (example: friend has a slight cough/cold & their answer is to go to the Dr & get an Rx for antibiotics ("some pills") and this is over & over.

do you just say "oh, hmmm, sorry you are sick again" or do you say "antibiotics are really not good" or anything like that?

i have a hard time saying nothing. but i dont want to be "preachy" or or step on toes...but OTOH, if the ppl who told me about raw had said nothing, i would never have known about it....they risked overstepping and said hey have you heard of eating raw? and then they told me about it.

just curious.

jen

[Colorawdo girl]

OOOOOOOOOOOO good question. I always stay quiet. UNLESS the opp is a good one. I toss a line and then see if they want to know or not.

Maybe they do not know they want or need to know. So I give it some effort and most of it by example.

Then I live and let live.

As I hear people speak of all their illnesses. I do wish them a silent blessing and feel so very very grateful and never take my health for granted.

[mattshor]

Depends on the person and the situation and my personal experiences. For example, right now I'm going through a lot of detox--telling people that being raw means you don't get sick would sound like such BS that I keep my mouth shut.

When people are eyeing my food *and* complaining about wanting to lose weight then I tell them about what I eat and the ~11lbs in two months.

[Revvell]

Ditto ArtGirly. There are a lot of fine lines in life. Sometimes can just mention something and if they want more info, they'll ask. If they just want a drug to stop symptoms... leaving others to their otherness...

[Veronica01]

Although people that know me have no intentions on changing their ways, i give a little information and say if you have any questions i'd love to tell you more. I've mentioned to my family that i've lost 12 pounds in a month (sure some of it is water too) and they are just dumbfounded so although they're not on the bandwagon they're proud when they tell me how much fruit or salad they had.


A lady in front of me at the post office last week was undergoing chemo, and had her head all wrapped up, very frail and small. The clerk told her that her son had chemo at the age of 7 and made it and now he's 24. They were so proud of the chemo. I don't think there's anything i could have said that would be positive in her mind instead of negative. She would probably be upset and have regret and i didn't think i should butt in.

I'm the kind of person that wants to know, i appreciate information. But not many people are like me in that way.

[Colorawdo girl]

What Matt said..people close to me(my employers) see I am sick sometimes. I even get so rough I cannot go to work. I tell them I have not been sick in a very long time. That my "sickness" is cleansing old stuff out, walking back through them as it were.

I hear you on not saying I am sick. My people who give me neg feedback a lot, I simply do not say anything. When they ask where I am. I am doing what I need to do is what I say. They need no explain.

Pretty cool.

Thanks Revell.

[JennaBoBenna]

I usually ask the person if I can give them a quick tip to help them get better sooner. If they say sure then I tell them to drink lemon juice in water, avoid sugar, grains, and other processed foods, and to get everything(mucous) they cough up out of their body. Or, even quicker, I suggest a tablespoon of garlic with honey. I don't usually go into the whole "drugs are bad" thing. Just suggestions to help them "get better" quicker.

[piccolittle]

Oh boy. I have tried quietly mentioning the raw thing to my friend (after she was b*tching about being fat), and was met with actual cold hostility. Actually I was only suggesting a veggie/vegan/raw restaurant for dinner that night, as she was complaining about having been disgusting all day! As much as people are searching for the magical panacea, it sounds too much like criticism if we try to suggest anything.

HOWEVER. The number one thing anyone can do to drive me bonkers-mental-climbing-the-walls crazy is take antibiotics when they have a VIRUS. I always speak up if someone is going to "get pills" for a cold or flu-type illness. It's one thing to treat the symptoms (which I personally don't do); it is entirely different to take potentially harmful medications for something they literally cannot treat. UGH. Even my parents do this, and they are both doctors. Anyone heard of superbugs?? Geez.

Lol sorry guys, rant over!

[rawbabymama]

if the ppl who told me about raw had said nothing, i would never have known about it

This is an excellent point. I give advice on alternatives to pharmaceuticals, like herbal remedies, home remedies, etc. People seem to be interested in this stuff and often try it. The diet issue is a different animal. If it is someone you know who knows how you eat, there is no reason to bring it up. Otherwise, I like a one time rule, as in you bring it up once, then let it lie. Like one person said, throw a line, see if they bite. Then you know you did your best. :)

[Veganforlife]

WHAT? ME QUIET? NEVER!

well, that's not true. depends on the situation and my comfort level with it.

[Dimond]

I like helping people and usually like talking, so almost always I will offer something. Plus it's much more interesting than saying nothing.

[Moretta]

I'm the kind of person that wants to know, i appreciate information. But not many people are like me in that way.
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Ditto to that.

Alot of people look at me weird and think I'm from a different planet when I sometimes talk about raw to them. Oh well, their loss.

[SweetTangerine]

LOL veganforlife:)
Usually when someone tells me they are sick I offer a natural way to make them feel better. With the example of someone having a cold I tell them they should add fresh lemon juice to their water in order to break up the mucous. That way, it gives them a chance to ask more questions if they are interested, or just thank me for the advice and run along to the pharmacy.

[ruffsongraw]

Great tips! All!
this gal has a husb & 2 kids that are constantly barfing, coughing, crapping or "tired". its non-stop. at least one fam member is constantly taking pills and the weird thing (to me even before raw) is they never ASK THE DR a single Q!! they all just take it, whatever it may be, which she never knows what it is or what it will do or if there are other options for health or even what are the side affects. she is a co-worker & knows i am raw. she doesnt ask a thing tho.

it is so hard for me not to say anything but i already know it wont be followed up on if i DO say anything. it will be ignored.... it is even harder with actual friends/ extended family. i like to *think* live & let live...but it isnt easy when i think i can help.

these are all great perspectives!! lots to keep imind in each diff situation for sure.

jen

[RawHeaven]

If someone wants information from me they usually ask me. And depending on my very truthful response, they may or may not ask me again. HAHAAAAAA!

Otherwise, I live and let live. :D:D:D

I should add, of course, sometimes I do. And usually I get some kind of insane response that it shuts me right up! For example, a friend is having digestive issues and so I mentioned juicing, some digestion friendly foods and introducing probiotics and digestive enzymes. Keep in mind, this friend is a scientist, for real, a molecularcellular biologist. So when I took my vegan probiotic bottle out of the fridge to show her, she said well those cannot be alive and they won't work. Well, she may be right about the validity of being "alive", but it stumped me honestly. Not so much because I know she knows her scientific stuff, but because her comment was said with lots of ego and arrogance ~~ she was really questioning the validity of my being a raw foodist without just coming out and saying so. I didn't jump to the bait though and let it go. After our vegan probiotic live food incident, she didn't even consider the other suggestions I had made. And yeah she's still not pooping regularly and has gas. So, yep, I usually just mind my own bidness! HAHAAAA!

[RawHeaven]

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[RawHeaven]

WHAT? ME QUIET? NEVER!

well, that's not true. depends on the situation and my comfort level with it.

I love this about you....keep making noise! The truth is a blessing and you, Lucy, have a wonderful gift for both keeping it real and sharing with others. :D

[contessa20]

For me it just depends on the person. Do I know them well enough to get into that sort of discussion? If I know them well enough, is it someone who would possibly be receptive or one who will let it go in one ear and out the other?

[juliebove]

It would depend on the situation. But why would anyone go to the Dr. to get antibiotics for a cold? Antibiotics only work if there is a bacterial infection. They don't work on viral stuff and a cold is viral. Now I could see a person going to the Dr. if they thought they had an ear or sinus infection, or pneumonia like I just had. And no Dr. is going to prescribe antibiotics just because a person asks for them.

If that situation did crop up, I would say something similar to what I said above.

[ruffsongraw]

this whole fam is constantly on meds & running to the Dr. for something TRIVIAL. its just what they DO. like she might be a bad parent if she doesnt rush the kids in PRONTO. i dont get it either. she is in lock-step with the traditional mindset. i try not to notice. she made an appt for herself just today to find out why she is SO tired ALL the time....i said nothing b/c it seems futile to try. we arent "friends" really, just co-workers.

jen

[circle]

most the time i stay quiet about advice. i don't give it. sometimes if i feel like i am involved in the convo i just say something like yuck i hate antibiotics i never take them. gross.