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reggaedog
03-28-2009, 02:58 PM
Is there a reason for this? Why did they say that?
anyone know?

Thanks

chessxcore
03-28-2009, 03:36 PM
because if they listed it as something that actually worked lots and lots more people would be doing it, and people being healthy doesn't make money.

The 3rd biggest killer in the US is adverse reaction to pharmaceuticals. And that includes the people that die just from taking the meds as prescribed.
To me that sounds like a population control method.


People wouldn't need pills if they were eating raw. Our bodies would heal itself.

and where's the $$ in that?

sport
03-28-2009, 04:39 PM
The following is the WIKI description and it is not very nice.

Food faddism and fad diet refer to idiosyncratic diets and eating patterns.
Note: the term "food fad" has an alternate positive connotation, namely, short term popularity among restaurants and consumers of an ingredient, dish, or preparation technique.

Belief in fad diets by adherents is often irrational. Many individuals who adhere to fad diets will not consider recommendations made by nutritionists and dieticians
There are three categories of food fads. Some food fads incorporate a combination of categories:
The virtue of a particular food or food group is exaggerated and purported to cure specific diseases, and is therefore incorporated as a primary constituent of an individual’s diet.
Foods are eliminated from an individual’s diet because they are viewed as harmful.
An emphasis is placed on eating certain foods to express a particular lifestyle.
Extreme faddist diets often lack the energy, suitable protein, fat-soluble vitamins, and some minerals that are essential for growing children. Parents forcing children to adhere to fad diets to the point of severe nutritional disorders is considered a form of child abuse.

Scientific view
Many forms of food faddism and fad diets are supported by pseudo-scientific claims. Fad diets claim to be scientific but do not follow the scientific method in establishing their validity. Among the scientific shortcomings of the claims made in support of fad diets:
not being open to revisions, whereas real science is
observations that prompt explanations are used as evidence of the validity of the explanation
Some in the scientific community comment that food faddism is born of ignorance about basic scientific dietary facts. The evidence supporting weight loss enhanced by anything other than caloric restriction is lacking There is also a lack of evidence to support that fad diets produce sustainable weight loss. Fad diets generally ignore or refute what is known about fundamental associations between dietary pattern and human health

Humanist
03-28-2009, 04:45 PM
The FDA is corrupt and the food processing lobby is powerful. Food processing is a huge industry, one of the biggest of all. If everyone went raw, the economy—as it is now—would collapse. Also, raw eating goes against the way they were brought up.

Revvell
03-28-2009, 05:39 PM
'cuz they don't know any better. Simple.

Veronica01
03-28-2009, 06:03 PM
They can't make any money off of it? and it goes against the food pyrmaid they create?

T-Bird
03-28-2009, 07:58 PM
i think it would be a mistake to assume underhanded intentions.

The reactions of family and coworkers is enough.....they think it's extreme, bizarre, outlandish, over the top, taking a good salad too far.

Most people do NOT want to know that the food they grew up with is unhealthy and dangerous. McDonalds - ok - they can accept that. But Mom's home cooking with a side of boiled to death veggies?

No way - that's healthy, down home cooking. Sure - adding a salad or an apple here or there is wonderfully healthy - but have that EVERY meal.....it's too much - threatening even - and they won't even design a study to find out the truth.

They're like little toddlers who don't want their bottles taken away.

Ilse W.
03-28-2009, 10:12 PM
Don't ever assume that the FDA is your friend or on the side of the consumer. The FDA works for corporate food and big pharma. If too many people figure out that raw food is healthy and can make you well, then the pharmaceutical companies would suffer. In fact, if big pharma gets its way, herbs will become illegal to purchase. The FDA is staffed with people from the pharmaceutical industry and vice versa. Sort of like all the people in the treasury department once worked for Goldman Sachs.

jurence
03-28-2009, 11:06 PM
Because the people at top aren't making money off of it

edit: sorry im on drugs at the moment that probably makes no sense at all

EZ rider
03-29-2009, 12:24 AM
Maybe because eating a diet consisting of natural foods seems so unnatural to them when most of what they eat is altered foods ?

RawHeaven
03-29-2009, 12:31 AM
hopefully ignorance and eating yourself into ill health and an early grave are also "fads" then. :cool: bottom line, don't worry about what people think or believe. do your own raw thing and believe in yourself and your own vibrant health. you're worthy and deserving...absolutely so.

Colorawdo girl
03-29-2009, 07:51 AM
People sometimes react strongly to things they do not understand, Also things that somehow,whether real or imagined, threaten their existence.

For me,when I came to not thinking about what the other people think, that was the time I was set free. We all get to choose!!!

RawkinOnSunshine
03-29-2009, 09:00 AM
Because the people at top aren't making money off of it

edit: sorry im on drugs at the moment that probably makes no sense at all

LOL. It actually does make sense(mostly). Or at least, it did before you added the edit ;)

I agree with the statement that the FDA is corrupt. If everyone was curing themselves with raw food, not buying into the processed crap that makes oh so much money, not buying meds, maybe even growing their own food - huge corporations would lose MILLIONS.

Back to the FDA, there are other things they keep hush hush or present as dangerous/ineffective because they are cheap and free of side effects. Piracetam, for example. Even pot - it has incredible medicinal value for all sorts of ills, both mental and physical, but is kept illegal because the government would be hard pressed to make money off of it (seeing as there are already many established growers).

Ilse W.
03-29-2009, 03:06 PM
Actually, the government could make huge amounts of money off pot, if the end product was taxed the way cigarettes and alcohol are.

Irish_Vegan_Girl
03-29-2009, 03:28 PM
Is there a reason for this? Why did they say that?
anyone know?

Thanks


I guess they don't want the lifeless food industries to go bankrupt.. As a poster above said, "where is the money in that?" - ultimately they don't care about our health, if it doesn't make them money.

It's kinda scary and confusing, but I'm glad I know the truth. I'd rather live knowing they don't have our best interests at heart and be part of a minority, than be "normal" and "accept" everything they say and be the majority.

:)

xinmywayx
03-29-2009, 03:35 PM
Because the people running the FDA are morons. ZING.

RawLibrarian
03-29-2009, 03:48 PM
Because the people running the FDA are morons. ZING.

In some aspects, yes, but the FDA also kept thalidomide from being prescribed as an anti-nausea drug for pregnant women in the mid 1950s/early 1960s, although the drug was heavily used in Europe and other countries, and also despite pressure from the manufacturer to approve it. It was actually one researcher at the FDA who didn't want it approved--a woman doctor--and she was able to persuade the higher-ups to ban the drug.

Thalidomide is a teratogen--it causes birth defects. Because the FDA refused to allow the sale of this drug to pregnant women in this country, the US did not experience an epidemic number of babies born with severe birth defects, as was the case in other countries.

The FDA has a lot of major issues, and they certainly seem to be in the pockets of Big Pharma at this point in time, but I'm quite grateful that they stuck to their guns about thalidomide--I was born at a time when thalidomide was being prescribed elsewhere in the world.

RawkinOnSunshine
03-29-2009, 04:28 PM
Actually, the government could make huge amounts of money off pot, if the end product was taxed the way cigarettes and alcohol are.

It would be troublesome, at least around here, due to the HUGE amount being grown and circulated by citizens...which would be MUCH cheaper than what the government would price it at.

*RayRay*
04-16-2009, 11:30 PM
I think in many ways raw food has become a 'fad diet'. Maybe not for all raw foodists....but some..... for the people who use is as a 'quick fix' before going back to old eating habits....that is exactly what a fad diet is......plus there is alot of contradiction by the so-called 'raw food experts' about what should or should not be eaten, and in what amounts, and they all claim to have the proof as to why their way is the right one.....how much of this proof is scientifically proven I don't know, and I'm not sure it even matters....but raw food taken in a more holistic, intelligent, intuitive, responsible and/or spiritual way is definitely not a fad, and can even be a way of life, as I'm sure it is for most on this board....and IMO a gateway to spiritual enlightenment!

Pking
04-17-2009, 12:08 AM
One of the main regrets I have about the FDA is they are considered bed-fellows with the meat & dairy industries. When the food pyramid was being created, the emphasis were primarily on veggies, fruits, nuts, grains, & legumes. Very little emphasis were placed on meat/fish/dairy/poultry foods. The meats & dairy industries complained vehemently and threaten not only lawsuit, but cutting major funding & donations to the FDA. Then to make matters worse, the beef industry whined that dairy portion of the chart got more attention than the beef! LoL! So since money talks, the food pyramid was revised to implement a larger "daily serving requirement" of meats, dairy, and poultry products. Also, when it comes to food inspections of imported foods from other countries, it's said the FDA only actually inspects about 7-10%. But you don't hear much about that in the media eh? :( That's why eating locally grown foods in so important. But then...Monosato wants to prohibt that from happening. Guess who will most likely approve this...the FDA! (In my humble opinion)

Cheremoya
04-17-2009, 08:43 PM
Because they are idiots. Hopefully that might change......