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Paul-InMe
03-20-2009, 12:48 PM
Heya, my main skin issues are acne, blackheads, flaky/dry and dull skin. I took antibiotics for the acne but then i believe they have made my problems worse in the long run.

Ive messed about with my diet since the acne started to effect me emotionally and i managed to dump out the rubbish foods i was eating and introduced things like green smoothies. The acne faded a little bit but still remains whilst all of the other problems do as well. Ive always suspected candida to be an issue as my problems are listed as symptons to it. The only thing that confused me was that whilst all the candida sites i read recommended to eat fats like avacados, cod liver oil etc these are the sort of things that are making my skin worse. Whether it be good or bad fats, my face would simply get worse from them.

However, i came across a website that said sugar isnt the problem for candida, but it was actually fat. If this is the case it certainly gives me something to try and beat, as before i really didnt know what the problem was.

At the moment my diet consists of things like green smoothies, fruit, eggs, meat and vegetables. Im not sure on how much fat is in eggs and meat but if i was to try to avoid fat would it be best to not eat any of them? Also, i put seeds in my green smoothies, would it be recommended to not put them in for a while or will just a few be okay?

Thanks

Veronica01
03-20-2009, 01:00 PM
I have the same issues you do, I have had bad skin for the past 12 years and I am tired of it. The itching flaking, red acne all of it. Very inconsistant, coming and going on different areas all the time. I was reading this yesterday http://www.fredericpatenaude.com/fruitreport.pdf and the part about candida reacting badly when our body is bombarded with fat and then has sugar. I'm going to start keeping fat to a minimum and not eat any sugar around it and see if that clears up my skin. If completely avoiding fat it seems like skin can be cleared in a few days. I definitely don't think meat or eggs will help you in achieving clear skin, i used to eat grilled meat every night for dinner and i know it didn't make anything better.

Colorawdo girl
03-20-2009, 01:09 PM
A raw fresh "feeding" makes raw fresh skin.

Paul-InMe
03-20-2009, 01:17 PM
I have the same issues you do, I have had bad skin for the past 12 years and I am tired of it. The itching flaking, red acne all of it. Very inconsistant, coming and going on different areas all the time. I was reading this yesterday http://www.fredericpatenaude.com/fruitreport.pdf and the part about candida reacting badly when our body is bombarded with fat and then has sugar. I'm going to start keeping fat to a minimum and not eat any sugar around it and see if that clears up my skin. If completely avoiding fat it seems like skin can be cleared in a few days. I definitely don't think meat or eggs will help you in achieving clear skin, i used to eat grilled meat every night for dinner and i know it didn't make anything better.

I forgot to mention my skin itches alot as well, it is very frustrating. Thank you for the link, it is an interesting read. After viewing other sites i ended up trying to really limit my intake of fruits as they all claimed about the sugar in fruits, and then recommended eating foods like eggs and meats.

I think from now on im going to give fruits another go and most defiently cut out alot of fat, my only worry is about using the seeds in my smoothies as it needs some fat for the vitamins to be absorbed from what ive read, but i shouldnt think they would cause to much trouble if theres only a few.

Veganforlife
03-20-2009, 01:24 PM
I forgot to mention my skin itches alot as well, it is very frustrating. Thank you for the link, it is an interesting read. After viewing other sites i ended up trying to really limit my intake of fruits as they all claimed about the sugar in fruits, and then recommended eating foods like eggs and meats.

I think from now on im going to give fruits another go and most defiently cut out alot of fat, my only worry is about using the seeds in my smoothies as it needs some fat for the vitamins to be absorbed from what ive read, but i shouldnt think they would cause to much trouble if theres only a few.

I'm thinking your itchy skin is from the additives and CRAP that is in the meat and dairy you are consuming. You go 100% Raw for 30 days and I bet that would clear up AND you wouldn't want to eat that other garbage.

Do you have Alissa's book and DVDs?

gs4life
03-20-2009, 01:30 PM
fruits and veggies themselves have all that fats that are required to digest them. you don't need to consume additional fats to be able to assimilate the nutrients from fruits and vegetables. if you want to keep adding seeds that's fine, but just know that if you stop adding seeds to your smoothies you will still assimilate the nutrients and vitamins.

Veronica01
03-20-2009, 01:30 PM
I don't think you need to put any protein or fat into your smoothies at all. Even on SAD I always ate a high amount of fruit and even now after being 99% raw I don't feel that we will be nutrient defficient if there is no fat to bind to the sugar molecules to absorb nutrients. Fat slows digestion yes, but would it really make sense that herbivorous animals that eat grass all day are not absorbing enough nutrients and they need to eat fat to get enough? I used to believe that, but when think about it, most animals never food combine so why would we have developed that we had to combine fat with other foods to absorb the proper amount of nutrients. Even if you do add fat to all your greens and fruits if they body doesn't need it it's flushed out anyways. I'm sure you could always test it yourself and just keep fruit and or fruit and greens together without fat for a while and see what it does, you wouldn't become deficient in a few days anyways.

Paul-InMe
03-20-2009, 01:37 PM
I'm thinking your itchy skin is from the additives and CRAP that is in the meat and dairy you are consuming. You go 100% Raw for 30 days and I bet that would clear up AND you wouldn't want to eat that other garbage.

Do you have Alissa's book and DVDs?

Nope, i dont have the book or dvds. Ive only really just come across this website though, i just searched on google about candida and fat and came across it. I am interested in eating a more raw diet so i shall take a look and getting them and see if they can help me on my way.

Paul-InMe
03-20-2009, 01:43 PM
I don't think you need to put any protein or fat into your smoothies at all. Even on SAD I always ate a high amount of fruit and even now after being 99% raw I don't feel that we will be nutrient defficient if there is no fat to bind to the sugar molecules to absorb nutrients. Fat slows digestion yes, but would it really make sense that herbivorous animals that eat grass all day are not absorbing enough nutrients and they need to eat fat to get enough? I used to believe that, but when think about it, most animals never food combine so why would we have developed that we had to combine fat with other foods to absorb the proper amount of nutrients. Even if you do add fat to all your greens and fruits if they body doesn't need it it's flushed out anyways. I'm sure you could always test it yourself and just keep fruit and or fruit and greens together without fat for a while and see what it does, you wouldn't become deficient in a few days anyways.

I think i may just give the seeds up for a while then and see how things go, i was just always led that some form of fat was needed.

Something that irratates me when i do try to eat good is the cravings. I always end up needing chocolate or biscuits and i cant stop thinking about it until i eat it! Im really tired of having bad skin though so im going to fight these cravings now, but after going raw how long does it usually take for these cravings to go away?

Veganforlife
03-20-2009, 01:47 PM
You could speed the craving elimination up with green smoothies. They REALLY do the trick for making these cravings go. Don't analyze this lifestyle too much. Takes waaay too much energy to do that.

...and remember...

everyBODY is different. What works for one may not work for you...

Veronica01
03-20-2009, 02:26 PM
Something that irratates me when i do try to eat good is the cravings. I always end up needing chocolate or biscuits and i cant stop thinking about it until i eat it! Im really tired of having bad skin though so im going to fight these cravings now, but after going raw how long does it usually take for these cravings to go away?



I know what you mean, I gave up dairy a while ago and would only occaissionaly share some cheesecake with my sister when she begged, because i found that to be an enormous contributor to bad skin. I also greatly reduced my breads as both my sisters are allergic to it and it doesn't seem like a normal food anyways. Not that i didn't like any of these things, i was just trying to eat better things for me.
I went raw cold turkey 3 weeks ago and it actually wasn't as hard as i thought it was. First, make sure you buy a ton of fruit and lots of variety it will help you from feeling deprived, bored, hungry etc.
The first week I ate A LOT of fruit, every 2 hours i was eating some i was always hungry. The second week I was amazed at how i could easilly reduce myself to eating 3 meals and 1 snack a day. I even tried just 2 pieces of fruit for breakfast like grapefruits and an orange and i was fine for hours. You will get used to it. If you want to get over the cravings first before dealing with your skin, make sure you are eatins lots and lots of fruit, and some salads and even try some raw recipes with nuts in them i swear they will fill you up even with small portions. I liked trying a new recipe every few days for variety to stay positive on the diet and not think i was depriving myself. Now when I smell fried food walking around outside or even people in my house cooking meat i am much more excited to eat my raw dinner because the flavours are so much more exciting. Breads and biscuits also don't even taste good at all, its what you put on them that makes you able to stand the taste. Just keep trying to do more and more raw and you will find that your favourite old foods smell and look more and more unappetizing than you ever thought possible. I don't think you can worry about everything all at once right now, work on liking the food that is good for you and noticing how it makes you feel better and it will get easier to want to eat foods that help you detox and bring you clear skin.

recycledsoul
03-20-2009, 04:04 PM
Congratulations on finding the raw wisdom, friend!
Everyone has different body types, so we must listen to the expreience of others but also our experiences and our intuition. We must get the glands to secrete correctly and balance our bodies. What we eat, think, and do effects our glands. One excellent way to directly effect the glands is Yoga. Yoga works directly on glandular secretion and hormonal balance. It is pretty easy to find a Yoga studio these days. Also sweating is excellent to flush out toxins and imbalances. Try to exercise with the intention of sweating atleast 3 or more times per week. also warm bath and saunas help.
I know from my own experience and observation of others usually when we try to initiate a change in someones lifestyle/ consciousness they cant really listen unless they have begun the initiation themselves and would like some guidance. the ego likes us to beleive we can control others and brow-beat them into doing things our way, but only hearts won through sincere friendliness are true overtime. we just cant shape someone elses brain permanently. Water is the softest thing, but there is nothing better for attacking hard things. What i am getting at is meat eating. Ive been vegatarian for 2.5 years and my mom always was. it just happened that i slowly left out eating meat. i was listening to my body. millions of people do excellent without meat for millenium. carnivores stomachs are 3 times the lenght of their body where as vegatarian animals and human's stomachs are 9-12 times the lenght of the body. this is because meat begins to peutrify very quickly and needs to pass through the system fast or else it releases toxins. this shows we are intended to eat non meat. but i know when we try to make others 'see the light' there is distrust, rebellion, etc... if you want more info on benefits of not eating meat, there is an abundance of info everywhere.
Ayurveda explains that Bhrajaka Pitta is located in the skin and regulates the biochemical pocesses that occur in the skin. Complexion and skin glow are regulated by Bhrajaka Pitta. if you can find an ayurvedic doctor he will cure u i am sure.
~*greatests blessings and best of luck*~

recycledsoul
03-20-2009, 04:19 PM
I think i may just give the seeds up for a while then and see how things go, i was just always led that some form of fat was needed.

Something that irratates me when i do try to eat good is the cravings. I always end up needing chocolate or biscuits and i cant stop thinking about it until i eat it! Im really tired of having bad skin though so im going to fight these cravings now, but after going raw how long does it usually take for these cravings to go away?

about cravings
meditation can help you grately with any craving. it is not about indluging or repressing in the craving it is not reacting to it, observing it. just observe whatever is there, create a little space between it. it is just the habit pattern of the mind, but you can get a silent mind. be gentle with yourself
lots of Love
Peace

*RayRay*
03-21-2009, 10:41 AM
I have had the same skin problems as you, and I too am soooo sick of it! I cut out all grains a year ago (wheat, rice, etc...) with the exception of corn which I don't have very often.....but this helped ALOT!! but it is not completely gone... what do you use on your skin....alot of 'beauty' products are actually very irritating to sensitive skin....I am using an all natural lotion that has absolutely no chemicals, no preservatives, and it is the only thing I have found to put on my skin that soothes it instead of irritating it.....it's called 'electric body'.... Now, my next step to try to help my skin is eating a very cleansing diet of mostly fruit.....and some veggies (salad at lunch...) And I am going to stop taking my birth control pills in favor of more natural methods of birth control...(I remember a few years back i quit taking the pill and my skin cleared up perfectly!!) we'll see how this helps.....!

Anyone else having any progress with skin problems???

Paul-InMe
03-21-2009, 11:05 AM
I have had the same skin problems as you, and I too am soooo sick of it! I cut out all grains a year ago (wheat, rice, etc...) with the exception of corn which I don't have very often.....but this helped ALOT!! but it is not completely gone... what do you use on your skin....alot of 'beauty' products are actually very irritating to sensitive skin....I am using an all natural lotion that has absolutely no chemicals, no preservatives, and it is the only thing I have found to put on my skin that soothes it instead of irritating it.....it's called 'electric body'.... Now, my next step to try to help my skin is eating a very cleansing diet of mostly fruit.....and some veggies (salad at lunch...) And I am going to stop taking my birth control pills in favor of more natural methods of birth control...(I remember a few years back i quit taking the pill and my skin cleared up perfectly!!) we'll see how this helps.....!

Anyone else having any progress with skin problems???

I used to use all different things on my face but they all made my face feel extremely dry. The only thing i tend to use now is apple cider vinegar on the flaky areas as it seems to help get rid of them for a little while.

Ive read about things like oregano oil and pau d'arco for candida, are they necessary to take to completely sort the issues out or is just a change in diet needed?

debilana
03-21-2009, 11:50 AM
I understand skin struggle- I have rosacia which has only worsened since I turned 40. When I eat raw the associated acne with it receedes, but the redness never fades- no matter how raw I am, no matter how many greens I eat. Its frustrating=(

A gal on this board told me to find my triggers- and they do seem to be wheat/cheese/yeast so far. But even when I am all raw, I am still so red. I hate having my picture taken anymore:mad:

However, the raw diet has made my hair beautiful. All those positive fats make it shine! I think that rosacia is just hard to cure- but regular acne and dryness would be helped by at least going high raw. I would also say for dryness, wash with some coconut oil . I use a vegan MSM based lotion I got at a raw store for my flaky areas, and I use it everyday after I wash my face. It is important to use a clean, no chemical, plant based lotion if you use one.

*RayRay*
03-21-2009, 04:49 PM
Veronica01, thanks for the link to the frederick patenaude info!! I am re-considering the belief that high fat diet can be healthy if it is the right kinds of fats! I always have thought that high fruit diet is good though! good info!

*RayRay*
03-21-2009, 05:25 PM
Linda1970, Thanks for sharing! Your skin looks PERFECT!!! Knowing that you cleared up your skin with just eating raw is very encouraging and motivating for me!! I will keep up the raw, and try to cut out the dried stuff (dried fruit, dehydrated veggies, etc...) I am also planning on keeping it low fat (no nuts, maybe an avocado a day, or olive oil on my salad....)...... I however DO have before pictures!!! but I'm not going to show you guys until I have a really great AFTER picture!!!:p

Raw Angel Mom
03-21-2009, 08:42 PM
When i became vegetarian in 2000 my skin got better and better as i improved my diet, letting go coffee, white sugar etc... It was only when i eliminate completely all animal product such dairy and egg in 2007 that i finally had a clear skin.

Consider to become a 100% raw vegan. Try this for two months and see how your skin becomes.

Best wishes

circle
03-21-2009, 11:01 PM
if you want 100% fresh, clean skin, eat 100% fresh, clean food.

i would cut out the meat and eggs. they tend to be kind of clogging.

RawHeaven
03-21-2009, 11:33 PM
Paul, everything everyone else has already said + drink more pure water.

And cleanse. Raw foods will do it, but if you want more immediate results cleanse your colon.

A Clear Colon = Clear Skin

Add plenty of lemons to your smoothies. Or do a master cleanse (see fasting thread).

Drink straight cucumber juice for a few days or longer. If you can, fast on it for 2-3 days. Cucumber is an amazing healer of the skin - chockful of silicon. Or simply eat more cucumbers. :)

Juice fasting could possibly be wonderful for you. Read Jeremy Safron's The Fasting Handbook: Dining from an Empty Bowl

Focus on having clear skin rather than not liking your skin or putting your attention on having unclear skin. Focus on having clear skin in the present. The mind is a powerful co-creator.

Best wishes.

MrsJ
03-22-2009, 01:10 AM
A Clear Colon = Clear Skin



What if you don't have a colon? Why can I STILL not have clear skin?

Paul-InMe
03-22-2009, 01:09 PM
Thanks for all your replies and help. From tomorrow i am really going to have a go at this and try to keep it going for as long as i can, im going to give it enough time to see if its going to provide results or not and im certain that it will.

If it is candida and the fats are the problem, what exactly happens? Will it just die off without any intake of fats or will it not be that simple?

Paul-InMe
03-25-2009, 02:24 PM
Im getting annoying cravings for ice cream as everyone in my house seems to be eating it!! My mum claims it is pretty low in fat so how bad would this be for candida? Am i allowed to have abit or is it best just to avoid it and stick to what im doing.

Veronica01
03-25-2009, 02:36 PM
All Dairy gives me huge outbreaks for a month icecream, creamcheese and cheese were the worst for me. I avoid dairy like the plague seriously.

Veronica01
03-25-2009, 02:38 PM
If it is candida and the fats are the problem, what exactly happens? Will it just die off without any intake of fats or will it not be that simple?

Did you read the link i posted? http://www.fredericpatenaude.com/fruitreport.pdf

It explains in there why fruit is not the problem, and it's fat WITH fruit that gives you issues with candida. Candida is an organism that SAVES the body from excess sugar in the blood and insulin spikes. It eats it up when there is too much. But if you are eating fat and then fruit or fruit with fat, the candida is blocked by the fat and can't absorb all the sugar. Thats what can cause problems and breakouts etc. If you eat icecream there is refined sugar and dairy fat in it, and all the antibiotics and pus in the dairy as well contributes to acne twofold.

And you don't want candida to die, that would be dangerous. No one is telling you to never eat fat. You could space out eat fruit first and then nuts or seeds 30-45 min later. Its just when you combine fruit and nuts or avocodo or oils your digestion slows down and the fruit doesn't get digested right away.

I asked a friend of mine about candida and she said her friend went on a 2 week bananas only diet and it completely cleared up and her skin was fine. So you could try not combining fat and fruit, eating only fruit, or doing a fast maybe. Depends how fast you want it to clear up.

Im going to go on a fast for detox and to help my skin because i'm tired of it too.

Paul-InMe
03-26-2009, 02:54 PM
Did you read the link i posted? http://www.fredericpatenaude.com/fruitreport.pdf

It explains in there why fruit is not the problem, and it's fat WITH fruit that gives you issues with candida. Candida is an organism that SAVES the body from excess sugar in the blood and insulin spikes. It eats it up when there is too much. But if you are eating fat and then fruit or fruit with fat, the candida is blocked by the fat and can't absorb all the sugar. Thats what can cause problems and breakouts etc. If you eat icecream there is refined sugar and dairy fat in it, and all the antibiotics and pus in the dairy as well contributes to acne twofold.

And you don't want candida to die, that would be dangerous. No one is telling you to never eat fat. You could space out eat fruit first and then nuts or seeds 30-45 min later. Its just when you combine fruit and nuts or avocodo or oils your digestion slows down and the fruit doesn't get digested right away.

I asked a friend of mine about candida and she said her friend went on a 2 week bananas only diet and it completely cleared up and her skin was fine. So you could try not combining fat and fruit, eating only fruit, or doing a fast maybe. Depends how fast you want it to clear up.

Im going to go on a fast for detox and to help my skin because i'm tired of it too.

I did have a read of the link, but i find that whatever time of the day i eat fats it causes my skin to get worse even if i havnt eaten it around the time of eating any fruit. I find that fats defiently make blackheads worse and worse, my nose looks terrible at the moment and is covered in them.

From the symptons that ive said like acne, blackheads, dry/flaky, itchy and dull skin does it sound very much like it could be from candida? Or could it be something else?

ruffsongraw
03-26-2009, 03:00 PM
hi,
i had a blood test done to see if i had candida or too much or whatever and the results (if they can be trusted...) said no. maybe you can do that? my insurance did cover it.
i agree with the higher % you go raw the better for your whole body ultimately, altho skin doesnt clear up overnight. mine has greatly improved but i thnk it will take many more months to really be ok.

jen

Veronica01
03-26-2009, 03:13 PM
If you are having such a problem with fats then test it and try abstaining from fats for a few days and see if it gets worse at all. The cooked foods keep you from fulling cleansing as well. I am fasting now to see what results i get with my skin.