View Full Version : Do you find that what you resist(cooked pizza) persists?
03-08-2009, 09:26 AM
Hi all of you. My thread below on Addictions-I love cooked food and you can too. Its not what it looks like. Give it a read and let me know how that goes for you. It was a huge eye opener for me. It set me free!!!
What I resist persists. When I embrace it as my friend,it helped me get where I am today(with a long way to go haha) and I honor that process of the building of a person called me.
When I embrace fear,it dissolves,when I am scared to death,it persists.
When I run from anything,it comes back over and over again.
When I say I cannot have mashed potatoes,they call to me.haha and thats all I want.
Whatever I dont want and do not face,is always there again and again.
So I focus on what I want and head that way. When the urge comes,I say "hello,there you are again,welcome. Thanks for coming back to remind me. Wait a sec while I think about what I want. Oh I have been there with you cooked food and I didnt feel so good.That IS NOT what I want. You taught me that lesson(many times). Thank you for doing that. So I am going to eat some raw chocolate mouse pudding with pecans on top.ahhhh"
So when I understood to love cooked food for all it has done(me in) for me and brought me to this sad state of un-wellness,that opened a whole new world for me.
If I go to eat cooked food,it can teach me again. I love being taught. The lessons of cooked are rarely fun. Isnt it funny,we had to learn to cook,then learn what cooked did to our bodies,then learn to uncook.Life is such a fun ride!!! weeeeeee
So if and when I CHOOSE cooked food of any sort,and I do sometimes:eek:,it is a whole lot harder and real and in deliberate knowledge of what I am doing. Theres no fooling me any more.I have been to cooked school for a long time. And I pay the price.
What do you think about loving cooked food in this way????? respond here or on my other thread of addictions....thankx a buncha ripe bananas!!!
03-08-2009, 11:13 AM
YouI're writing a lot of great stuff about mindful rawness. I'm taking a lot from your insights, thank you!
i think that if we really are with our food one hundred percent while we are eating it, the physicality and sensations of it, we really won't want the addictive whatever. either i'm doing that now, or i haven't hit the wall yet. i'm pretty new. :)
03-08-2009, 02:14 PM
What if you find yourself at a point in life where... you don't know what it is that you want?
This is where I seem to be. It's not about raw food, but life in general. Nothing seems to matter, good nor bad. So, one would think this to be an opportunity to say, "To heck with it, I choose to be happy." And yet, my personality since childhood has seemed to lean toward depressive/melancholic.
I do a lot of internet reading on this topic, in search of bits and snippets that might allow me to piece things together. I've been seeing a therapist for a year and a half (1st year with a man, 2nd year with a woman). Neither seem to have been able to answer the question in regard to life's purpose (major mid-life crisis that started at 36 y.o.) Just thought I'd ask your point of view.
03-08-2009, 04:35 PM
Hi sweet,click on my avatar and email me please.I am more than happy to help...lv n be well.
03-09-2009, 01:18 AM
It's strange because when I was little and still to this day, I have never liked cooked food. I think I remember crying when my mum always made us have one hot meal a day when we were little. The only things I have now that are not raw are Soya yogurt/milk, wholegrain cereals and wholegrain bread from the bakers. I prefer food cold, and I didn't even realise how raw I was in the first place when I turned vegan two years ago.
Saying that, every so often I do get chocolate cravings, BUT my favourite chocolate is the richest, darkest chocolate I can find, and the health food shop near me sells carob and raw chocolate bars. So all is well!
03-19-2009, 09:54 AM
I am resisting food totally today. Sick ugh. Not wanting to eat a thing. Any ideas? I guess listen to my body and not eat. I do want hot veggie broth.
03-19-2009, 03:06 PM
What you resists persists
No - I don't find that at all.
I think you're on a very slippery slope when you're 80-90% raw. When do have that "cooked meal"? Tonight at Aunt Helens, or save it till the weekend with friends? Maybe you do both - then what's the percentage?
And are you jonesing for it all week?
50% is easy Fruit or smoothies for breakfast, and a big salad with small portions of a regular lunch or dinner. You don't even seem weird.
100% is fairly easy. Sorry Aunt Helen! I can't sample your delicious, home made, apple pie. I'm doing this raw thing. But it smells delicious! Could we get to gether and try to develop a raw apple pie recipe sometime? Based on your famous cooked version?
With 100%, you lose your taste for "other" food, it leaves you.
You're leaving a door wide open - like a reformed alcoholic who goes out friday after work with "the guys" or "the girls" for a few beers/cosmos. S/He might be able to hang on to that for a while - but if s/he's jonesing for the alch - and looking forward those friday beers/cosmos on Sunday afternoon......we all know how it's going to go down eventually.
My very hard day was my son's birthday. The family/friends came over, and I was cooking. I baked a vegan cake from scratch, vegan butter cream frosting too! It was the BEST looking vegan cake I'd ever made. The 2 layers came out perfectly, and I frosted between the layers and then I smoothed the frosting on sides and top perfectly. Looked store bought!
I made a truly gourmet pasta dish - sauted garlic, mushroom, zucchini, peppers, and lots of olive oil and some tomatoe sauces and spices. I had to drag my brother in to taste the sauce before combining, and mr meat and potatoes eyebrows shot up in surprise. I asked him "more salt? more spice" he said no - it's perfect.
Also had 4 kinds of hummus from trader joes, Balela and tabouli salads, pitas, the raw veggies of course, etc.
I spent all day cooking - didn't eat a bite of it.
Only being 100% stopped me.
That's why people like to count their days, i think. It's nothing to chuck in 2-3 days for a "treat", when you can count the weeks and months.....
You build momentum. For me at least - it boosts determination, gives strength. You've got something to lose by chucking it in. It would hurt to chuck it in. Like running when you hit the "zone" you just want to keep going.......
Just be careful that philosophizing isn't just a cover for excuses.....
03-19-2009, 05:39 PM
This reminds me of loving the abuser/loving the criminal. "If it weren't for this single criminal and his example, we wouldn't have had the great reforms in response" if you catch my drift
03-19-2009, 05:53 PM
I compare eating cooked food like a machine. My body a fine tuned machine running on raw,high energy and all of a sudden throwing cooked into the gears....automatically goes chug chug chug and off to bed.Body weighed down and clogged. Who wants that???
03-19-2009, 08:42 PM
Unfortunately I have found that if I open the door a little way and take a small bite of something cooked then the desire for cooked comes back very soon usually within one or two days and it comes back stronger each time I yield to it. Its like the door gets pushed open wider and wider and the cooked percentage increases as I lose my raw lifestyle to an increasing at an increasing rate of consumption of cooked food until I find myself a member of the used to be raw crowd.
Fortunately the times this has happened I have started over because I am simply not willing to live with compromised health and massively increased girth and I have made it back to raw each time. IMO learning what you can from what happens to you is the best way to avoid stepping into the same trap again and again. I now know that for me all I have to do is mentally distract myself for a minute and the cooked food desire leaves. If and when it returns it comes back weaker like a fading echo. For me I know that my best defense against addictive cooked food is to avoid the first bite.
I know that we are all different and that what is right for me is just that and does not mean that it applies to anyone else.
03-20-2009, 07:05 AM
I love it....bravo.Avoid first bite.
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