impatient???

[ruffsongraw]

so today is 5 wks at NEARLY 100%. i say nearly b/c i DID eat 1 scrambled egg mixed with raw veggies and 1 time i did eat steamed veggies and rice...
other than those 2 meals, the rest has been 100%.
is there anyone on this forum that has MS or knows well of a person on raw with MS? i went to the great links you all sent me before. i did buy the Matthew Grace book (which was all about eating right and healing oneself, but nothing SPECIFIC about his healing process with MS!).
am i being impatient to expect progress after 5 weeks raw? i feel ilke i am still detoxing for sure. my face is still breaking out---?? i expected that to go away fast. and i still have numb areas (most of my left side). if somebody says it will take a year of raw, i will be encouraged, but at this point i feel DIScouraged with little noticeable improvement after 5 full weeks. :confused: i honestly dont know what to think. also, i have not lost an ounce---which doesnt matter much b/c that was never the reason i went raw (i am about 15 pounds overweight), but only a side benefit if i lost weight. but i still figured i would see that by this time. going raw has been primarily for healing/getting & staying healthy.
if anyone can offer anymore info on how long is realistic till i am "normal"---i know everyone is diff, but isnt there SOME general timeframe??
yes, i am impatient! but it makes it more diff to stay raw if i dont see actual results---altho i know that i might be FAR worse if i was eating SAD....but i dont know that for sure. (i do have Alyssa's book). i am thrilled to stay raw forever, adn any progress/healing will motivate me, but its VERY hard going on faith and hearsay alone!
thx
jen

[mattshor]

Hey ruffsongraw!
It's tough, plateaus are frustrating and when they come at the beginning they are especially difficult.

Do you feel like you are sacrificing a lot to eat raw? What are the frustrations? Think about the reasons that people feel tempted to eat cooked: ease of preparation, taste, cost, convenience. Which of these is making you think that cooked would be a preferable option to raw? Then find the way to make raw work that way for you!

Prepare decadent meals! Pick one or two prep days so the rest of the week you can just chill out and enjoy it. Make the raw food be its own reward and you'll find it a lot easier.

Here's hoping the motivational moments come quick!

[Colorawdo girl]

Raw food is a way of life.Adopting it,taking it on and not seeking an outcome.We have been told there are rewards and there sure are.However that attitude will help you relax into it and all of a sudden,you will think about all the things that are gone in the way of symptoms.Your skin and hair will get more beautiful,weight drop,etc.
Take it right where you are at right now.One minute,one carrot juice,one smoothie,one at a time.The rest will take care of itself.
Note on MS.I have heard lots about the sticky,glutenous puffy stuff being a very causitive factor in ms. Greener you go,the better your body will love you.As much detox as you can tolerate,add others things in to slow that down maybe if you need to.
Be well and love today!

[ruffsongraw]

maybe my prob is that i AM seeking an outcome and i DO think i am on a plateau. SAD is tempting for me just out of lifelong habit and the millions of temptations thrown on us by TV, billboards and others eating "regular food". the LOGIC of it raw makes total sense & is what appeals to me most--eating healthy--as nature intended what our species should eat. but when i hear about all the results i cant help but wonder, where are mine?
i am not complaining about what i AM eating now, b/c it IS good. but yearning for stuff like pizza or pasta or chinese food----if i had results i would feel better, like its "worth" the sacrifices.
i am trying hard and as a family we are still trying things out recipe wise. i feel like if i knew results would be slow than i could push on, but feeling like they will ever come makes if diff. and i have nobody to say "hang int here, with MS it takes ---X--- length of time". my Dr. is no help and he is amazed that i chose to go off the meds i was on (interferon--an immuno suppressant). i just dont have any resources for my inidivisual probs.
thx for the replies. i will try to focus on one day at a time and try not to focus on results. i fell reasonably good overall, except my left side being still numb and MAJOR weakness (i have 20 horses and was used to lifting bales of hay, etc, now i feel like a total WIMP and i get shaky with exertion). i wonder too if feeling angry/frustrated is another detox symptom...
thx. any more info? i'll take it!
jen

[mattshor]

a thought, and mind you, I'm no doctor.
Were the meds helping at all, at least in the short term?
Many people that have been on medication and then used raw foods as a treatment did not immediately cut out the medication. They started off on the raw diet and then as their bodies healed they phased out the medications.

2 advantages that I see to that approach
1) people in your support network won't think that you are a crazy nut job, and rather than arguing with you they are more likely to keep supporting you
2) until your body has begun healing itself, the meds may be the only thing keeping you from getting worse. Your body may be so depleted at the moment that until you build it up a bit with raw food it is still dependent on the meds.

I think veganforlife talks a bit about this and her transition from hypothyroid medication, maybe she and others can chime in from personal experience.

[Veganforlife]

Hey there. Here I am, piping in. Please, read my testimony below. I went from suffering life-long migraines (50+ years) and for 6 years a non-functioning thyroid (going to a specialist, up and down on meds) to in 11 months healing/curing both simply by eating.

Let me repeat. HEALING/CURING BOTH, SIMPLY BY EATING.

I (for me personally - MY body), it worked. I, in my heart truly believe it will work for others as well, but a lot of this is a mind over matter thing too. This has been proven time and time again. Serious illnesses healed/cured, bimply by eating.

Our bodies are VERY forgiving and healing machines.

I am no doctor either, nor do I claim to be, BUT there are so many mis-diagnoses done these days. How long have you been diagnosed with "ms"? Mold allergies mimic lots of dis-eases, such AS MS, lymes, lupus, etc. Check this out... www.moldwarriors.com

Plus, five weeks, in the whole scheme of how long you have been a SAD/CRAP eater is NOT a long time. Our bodies are constantly healing. Give it time. Do not care what others think. This is for YOU and your health alone. Think positive.

Do it day to day. If you are tired, then that's okay. Rest. If you have energy, that is gr8! Listen and respect your body.

If I am not mistaken, something in my brain is saying in Alissa's book there IS someone that did have MS and has healed from it. I KNOW I have read that through my Raw journey.

But most importantly. BE PATIENT. Are you on meds for your ms? Meds screw with one when they are trying to be clean. THAT could be taking time too. Lots of factors play into this.

PATIENCE. PATIENCE. PATIENCE. PATIENCE.

I cannot say it enough...

Like Revvell says, "Trust the process".

Like I say, there are too many that this HAS helped. Shoot! Sunshine's son who has autism. He is doing AMAZING since going 100%.

It will come!


PATIENCE. PATIENCE. PATIENCE. PATIENCE. PATIENCE. PATIENCE. PATIENCE. PATIENCE. PATIENCE. PATIENCE. PATIENCE. PATIENCE. PATIENCE. PATIENCE. PATIENCE. PATIENCE. PATIENCE. PATIENCE. PATIENCE. PATIENCE.PATIENCE. PATIENCE. PATIENCE. PATIENCE.

[Raw Angel Mom]

Dear Jen, first a big hug to you and bravo for all the effort you have being making. They aren't in vaine and they will pay off.

Check your pans, i bet they are looser. Actually, since you are seeing any weight lost, this is a good sign that your body is reparing and building nice new organ.

I would definitely add more greens in your diet (fresh green), you can find some nice green smoothie recipes. Greens are rich in chlrophyl which is very close to our blood and this is like having a new blood transfusion. Greens balance your PH, mineralyse your body and does some much wonderful healing. I would consider a little bit of wheat grass, e3live etc... also.

Don't give up just yet.

[ruffsongraw]

I will check out the mold link. THANK YOU.
i only saw one person in Aliisa's book that had MS but it didnt have much detail, i will re-look for it. somebody here said her husband had it and sent me a link but it isnt there anynore(?).
yes 5 weeks is relatively short, isnt it... : / haha...typical me...
no i am off ALL meds. dont even take aspirin or tylenol. i WAS on interferon for YEARS, which is an immuno suppressant IM injection. i have been off that for about 8 weeks. BUT i WAS also on stupid steroids (pred), a HUGE dose. i would think that has all been passed out my system by now but who knows.
i just talked to my GOOD dr, who is about 70% raw, he is a chiro not a regular Dr. and my blood tests say that my liver and kidneys are hi, as in being over-taxed, like either i am detoxing still or the interferon did some damage... are there any specific foods good for building thsoe two back up? i was normal for candida, which i was surprised.
i will be more patient. really. and i wont give up. this way of eating makes so much sense and i have a positive attitude overall but i just felt really frustrated today like what am i doing this for if i am still the same??? i wil read your blog and go to the mold site. i was diagnosed in 1998 with this. nobody really thinks i am crazy going cold turney off everything "normal". i am just desparate that the medical feld has no answers, no solid info, just drugs and more drugs to offer--and those create more probs...i just had enough. i am having 2 HUGE (omg, i am embarrased at the size!) salads every day and a dish of 3 avocadoes/tomatoes every afternoon. i still feel that desperate/hungry feeling that i get REALLY crabby when i am hungry.... i thought that would ease up but it hasn't.
i will be MORE MORE MORE patient.
thank you so much.

jen

[ruffsongraw]

PS i just ordered some wheatgrass! not here yet.... and i am on goji berries. raw caco and some vite D supplement (which the blood test said i am low on).
Thx for the hug! i will just give my poor body WAY more time. i am starting Pilates too, to try to get some strength built back up safely. you would think i'd lain in bed for a week or more, i am SO weak and shaky when i try to do anything physical. and that makes me angry to feel that way. i tried to ride this past weekend and i had (HAD) to use a mounting block!! and my legs were just quivering!!....Grrrr.....
i will ease up on me wanting my body to hurry up!!

thanks!!
jen