B.C. pills and Fasting??

[*RayRay*]

Does anyone know about how fasting (either juice feasting, or master cleanse) makes any difference to the effectiveness of birth control pills?? I want to do a fast to help my body along in the detoxing process, but don't want any babies!!aah!! Thanks

[sarahrjm]

Good question.....most are going to say why fast when you are putting chemicals in your body?

However..........im wondering the same.........Its the one chemical, I need right now, for a healthy sex life and peace of mind (previous statement not to be judged).

Im just interested in the answer!

[iamacranberry]

I'd take the pills and do the fasting...I see no possible counterindications UNLESS it is required to take the pills with food...I don't know; I've never been on the pill. But yes, 90% cleaning is better than none at all.

[Aleesha Sattva]

i can't imagine why it would matter... birth control pills don't need chewed food in the stomach to get into your system... at least not that i'm aware of.

and honestly... i think becoming a parent is a pretty important decision... one which i believe you should do anything to avoid until you are ready, willing and fully able to do so. (((hugs)))

[sarahrjm]

Aleesha, I agree, I am only 22, and though I have been with my boyfriend for 3 years, live with him, and we are planning our wedding, there is NO way we should have a child right now.......I know that there are so many people in this world that are "fit" to have a child right now but cant for some reason or another...and it would be Absolutely wrong of me to have 1. :)



RayRay - I fasted for almost a total of 14 days I think (with a break) last month, and it did not effect the effectiveness of my B.C. at all...and im fasting again starting today....................so.............I think its ok. I would also like to mention that when I told my Gyno, I wanted to try fasting, he did not say anything at all regarding the pill!

[paw]

I've always thought that they didn't work during the master cleanse [info from a master cleanse forum]. I may be wrong though.

[sarahrjm]

1. I will never do the master cleanse........

2. I think yes............I would be a little uneasy about doing an M.C. on B.C.

but I think just fasting should be ok. The M.C. is kinda harsh in my opinion

[*RayRay*]

Thank you for the input (and not judgeing me for taking the pill) I think I will look into juice fasting then...:)

[Aleesha Sattva]

curious... why would m/c have anything to do with the effectiveness of the pill if juice fasting has no effects on it???

i would definitely not take "i think" "it may" as fact. if anyone who reads this thread really wants to know the answer to this... i would contact the people who designed the m/c and support it for more information.

*gets off my soap box and goes for a nap*

[*RayRay*]

Thanks Aleesha, I think you're right....I made an appointment with my doctor, so I will discuss this with her....next week

[Aleesha Sattva]

please keep us posted on what your doctor says. :D

[*RayRay*]

Soooo.......I went to my doctor......and realized...time for a new doctor...!! She doesn't think raw/vegan is healthy....she said "You really need your meat and dairy", and she said especially milk because it is "fortified with vitamin D" ....this is ridiculous to me!! oh, and I never got an answer on the b.c. pill thing with fasting because she made me a bit uncomfortable and I didn't ask...:( I just wanted to get the heck out of there....She was also pushing me to take another round of antibiotics for my skin and when I said they never helped me before she said "well, your skin condition is chronic and will NEVER be cured" !! Can you belive this!? Also she thinks the breast tumor is re-growing.....but I was thinking maybe as my body is detoxing, that it may feel different in that area (it's not a lump, just a hardened feeling area....).... like how you experience past 'symptoms' in reverse order when detoxing....? I don't know, but here's what I do know:
1. I'm going to start my juice feast on sunday!! whoohoo!!
2. This skin condition is NOT chronic.....And it WILL go away!!
3. Time to find a new doctor!!

[Aleesha Sattva]

*nodding* and yes keep your own hands on that breast and watch for changes. juice feasting on LOTS of green juices is what i suggest you do. lots of green juices!!! and try to do a feast rather than a fast... so 4 litres of juice a day please! try to make 3 of them green and one fruit.

sounds to me like you need some major healing rayray... let's not 'play around' with this okay? take it seriously. you are fasting to heal, so take in lots of healing greens.

[*RayRay*]

*nodding* and yes keep your own hands on that breast and watch for changes. juice feasting on LOTS of green juices is what i suggest you do. lots of green juices!!! and try to do a feast rather than a fast... so 4 litres of juice a day please! try to make 3 of them green and one fruit.

sounds to me like you need some major healing rayray... let's not 'play around' with this okay? take it seriously. you are fasting to heal, so take in lots of healing greens.


Thank you Aleesha:) yes I am taking this VERY seriously!! When you say green juice....could I make it with mostly greens, and one apple and lemon to make it taste good?

[*RayRay*]

I also am going to do lots of dog walking and rebounding to help the detox along....and salt baths, and skin brushing....

[Aleesha Sattva]

of course you can add apple. :) add two apples if you want. just make them good and green.

herbs are HUGE in the healing spectrum so add lots of fresh herbs to your juices.
all your greens... find the ones you like and rotate between them.
celery is super good while fasting try to do as much celery as possible a day.
cucumber is another nice one (although i don't like cuke juice at all - but that's me)

lime is lovely in a green juice too! *wink*

[*RayRay*]

So....I'm reading this book called "Juice Alive, the ultimate guide to juicing remedies", by Steven Bailey, ND and Larry Trivieri, Jr. Steven Bailey has a private practice in Portland, so I found his website and emailed him....Asked him the question about BCP's. I was pleasantly surprised when he responded very quickly! Here was his response:

'Hello Rayna,
No, Juices won't make your BCP's ineffective. There is a very slight increase in liver metabolism, regarding the metabolism of estrogens, but this is insignificant. It does promote a better conversion of estrone and estradio into estriol, which makes PMS and other hormonal imbalances less severe, but doesn't alter fertility in brief 5-14 day juice fasts.
Good luck with your program
Best, Steven'

Sounds good....I am going for 45 days though...so I hope that the answer is still the same!! I think I will email him one more time to ask!

[Aleesha Sattva]

awesome news. thanks for getting this info for us ALL rayray!!!

[Sarain]

I did a 5 day juice fast a number of weeks ago while on the BC pill, and three days into the fast I got my period only a few pills in to a new pack. My period was really heavy with lots of clots, but since then my pelvis has felt really light and energized! I've not gone back on the pill as I now see it as a toxin, and I don't think it will work for preventing pregnancy for me now that I'm raw.