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zozodarko
01-29-2009, 01:59 AM
I have been vegan for a year and I decided to go raw for a while. I started off with The Master Cleanse and I eased my way into a raw food diet. This is my first week and I am doing really good. At the moment i am eating 90% raw. I have a big problem. I cant stop eating. Of course the food I am eating is raw but I just cant stop eating. If you have any recommendations or advice I would greatly appreciate it. p.s. I am not overweight, I just dont want to eat my way into a bigger size.:confused:

spicyfull
01-29-2009, 02:56 AM
I see your body Loves RAW........EAT, EAT, EAT......you will soon adjust. Don't forget to exercise also to balance your self.

zozodarko
01-29-2009, 03:17 AM
So adjust as in, I will not need as much food to keep me satisfied? Also, what percent fruit, vegetables, and nuts(proteins) should I have? I am a 20 year old female 5'3 140lbs. I am just worried. I want to lose weight, but feel that if i keep eating this way I will gain weight. I am also very bloated. I am not eating any salt. I should'nt be retaining water???

rawstrength
01-29-2009, 10:23 AM
Drink more water, exercise, eat lots of greens.
Sometimes you will retain water at first.
In time, you will need to eat less to feel satisfied.

Infinitus
01-29-2009, 10:43 AM
So adjust as in, I will not need as much food to keep me satisfied? Also, what percent fruit, vegetables, and nuts(proteins) should I have? I am a 20 year old female 5'3 140lbs. I am just worried. I want to lose weight, but feel that if i keep eating this way I will gain weight. I am also very bloated. I am not eating any salt. I should'nt be retaining water???

According to David Wolfe, and his The Sunfoord Diet Success System book, greens (leafy green vegetables, seaweed, micro algae, etc.) should form 33 % of the diet; fats (nuts, seeds, avocados, olives, etc.) should form 33 %, and sweet fruits 33 %. (Percentage by dry weight of food.)

Aleesha Sattva
02-01-2009, 12:15 PM
duplicate post responses being posted here:

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?t=47658

Crazy Healer Lady
02-01-2009, 01:03 PM
SIX duplicate threads & posts

HolyGuacamole
02-01-2009, 01:10 PM
Lawdy, someone please merge these posts!
zozodarko, you really only have to post once. We'll see it. ;)

*RayRay*
04-02-2009, 01:59 AM
33% fat is way too much!!! I think it's more like 10% !! I haven't read david wolfe, but wow....33%!! Frederic Patenaude recommends 10% as does Natalia Rose....Also, food combining is important. and it makes a difference if you are snacking on a pint of strawberries or a pound of nuts(very heavy)!!

circle
04-02-2009, 02:10 AM
when i first went raw, i couldn't stop eating.

eat lots of greens. you'll get over this. =)

graham
05-18-2009, 09:15 PM
wow, i was just about to post a topic about this same problem. i cant stop eating either. i always have to be eating.. a lot of food in between meals. smoothies, zucchini hummus, sprouts, honey, dried fruit, chia seeds. i think it is because i was raised on SAD my entire life, which does not require a lot of food until one feels full and horrible. people dont need to eat a few hamburgers to feel full because it's not your hunger being satiated. it is the body saying NO MORE. and it just repeats every day. now my body is saying MORE every time i eat nourishing food. it is kind of annoying and expensive, but i am doing what is best for my health.

Cerellia
05-19-2009, 12:54 AM
I experience the same. I think there are several reasons:
- Raw food is so light and easy to digest but we are not used to the feeling that our digestion has nothing to do so we think we are hungry.
- We are in a state of transition and our body is rebuilding itself and needs material for this.
- By now we still need all this food, later, our digestive system will get more effective and can absorb more nutriens of less food.

Just my explanations.


As to the 33/33/33 theory: As far as I remember, he refers to the amounts as dry weight. If you would dehydrate all your sweet fruits, they would be much smaler that would be more like it.

ruffsongraw
05-19-2009, 09:58 AM
i read somewhere, mayber here, that when we FINALLY give our body appropriate & nutritious foods, it goes wild. then as it gets what it needs finally (and that takes awhile!) to make up for all the crap it was getting for years, then it eventually levels off.

i have been *nearly* 100% since mid-january and i STILL have days where i CANNOT stop eating. some days i eat less now, but at first it was 7 days a week i couldnt stop.

good luck!!

jen

Ilse W.
05-19-2009, 10:29 AM
I would think the 33% fatty foods does not pertain to the fat, but to the food by volume. Avocados, nuts, etc. are NOT 100% fat. I'm sure that overall it would probably work out to be about 20% fat, which is very healthy. 10% fat when you eat raw food only is too low, IMHO.

tylerdurden
05-19-2009, 01:01 PM
Everyone has different goals so for some 10% of your diet from fats is to low but if you want to have a low body fat percentage it’s the way to go. First define what you are trying to achieve and then find the ratios in your diet that will allow you to reach that goal.

As to feeling hungry embrace it. Hunger is a natural feeling that we’ve forgotten how to control. On the SAD we were taught, feel hungry eat, hungry eat but that isn’t necessary. It’s ok to feel hungry. Especially if you want to lose some weight you have to eat less calories than you use. Go out and do something that will keep your mind of food. Pick up a hobby that will captivate your mind. You won’t even realize you are hungry.

Cerellia
05-19-2009, 01:34 PM
I have not seen any long term raw foodist who is overweight. Most are perfect, some are a bit too skinny but fat? I don't think this is possible.
So, I don't think you should limit your fat or calories. Why should you not eat when you are hungry? Fresh food is wonderful and essential. We are not going to eat like this forever (hopefully), but right now this is what our bodies need.

Colorawdo girl
05-19-2009, 02:07 PM
Enjoy raw and living food eating...yummmy

DwightLight
05-19-2009, 09:22 PM
I remember the first couple weeks of 100%... it was snacking on nuts all the time, green smoothies, and fruit galore... but as the others said, as your body adjusts to the lifestyle, the amount of food you'll need will taper off in time. Now I still snack a lot, mostly watery fruits like Oranges or Watermelon... but I wouldn't worry at all about eating your way to a larger size... it's just not likely too happen.

Mikey_H
05-25-2009, 02:16 AM
I've gone through quite a few of those times where I was unsure about my nut/fat intake...
Have worried at times I was snacking waaay to much, and other times I felt I simply needed those dense calories.

But then as time passes I have only lost bad weight and gotten more energetic overall.

When I first went almost completely raw I went through about a week of just eating eating eating. I was eating a lot of rich sources like brazil nuts and coconut oil and I was just craving it like crazy. During that time I had gained some weight and still kept up with getting exercize and drinking water, and in another week or two it had all passed... and I had actually LOST weight and gained muscle. And I began to notice the "raw" difference. I guessed it was just that body adjustment period.

So now if I go on a nut "binge" or something of the sort (I just had my very first RAW chocolate creation experience and it was delicious, but my stomach is starting to disagree somewhat...), as long as I am doing it the RAW way, I trust the system. I know that over time I will only get healthier, and it makes me crave the fruits/veggies even more!

Johnny B
05-27-2009, 08:19 AM
Dietary fat (non processed) will not make you fat if you're eating properly/naturally/living foods. Processed carbs (bad) have a negative effect on your blood glucose and insulin production, which drives fat storage. Stay away from the processed carbs and insulin production acts normally which then allows dietary fat to be used as fuel, not as insulation. If eating poorly (SAD) your carbs will make you fat.

Sure, some folks are more genetically disposed to hanging on to more fat (they have more fat cells for it) but if you eat naturally and exercise naturally, I don't think you have to worry about the macronutrient percentages so much. The body needs to obtain essential fats and essential amino acids (proteins) from the diet... there's no such thing as an essential carbohydrate, so let that be your guide, if you will. Your body can always turn fat and protein into energy if need be.

Personally, my diet is high in fats, low in carbs and my body composition has never been better. I tend to keep an eye more on getting the proper vitamins and minerals than anything else.

trinity082482
05-27-2009, 09:11 AM
I assume you mean you are a bringer? Try eating foods higher in fiber which help to make you feel fuller longer. When you eat simple foods like fruits.. eat the flesh too which contain the fiber. Fiber is hidden in many places and when you know how to obtain it through raw foods.. it will help with appetite. If your eating the right things its okay to eat as much as you want.

LilacLavender
06-16-2009, 10:11 PM
Two words: green smoothies.

Cerellia
06-18-2009, 09:43 AM
I still can't stop eating but even if I eat all day, I am below the recommended calories (I don't care much about calories, I just noticed) and I also get dizzi when I force myself to eat less.
What I find weird is that my boyfriend, who is much taller and more muscular than myself, gets along with less than half the amount of food.

ruffsongraw
06-18-2009, 02:20 PM
dont complicate it---if you are hungry, eat. if you are thirsty, drink. dont ignore hunger pangs, they are there for a reason: your fuel tank is empty. it is a huge transition on the body to adjust to only raw & you are de-toxing too. your body is getting nutritious healthy food which it always needed bfore but never got. go with it.
i have been raw for only 6months and STILL "cant stop eating" on some days but it HAS tapered off and on *other* days i am not as hungry. just depends.
dont over-think it. every body is diff.

: )

jen

Infinitus
06-20-2009, 03:37 PM
33% fat is way too much!!! I think it's more like 10% !! I haven't read david wolfe, but wow....33%!! Frederic Patenaude recommends 10% as does Natalia Rose.

I don't think you understand exactly what he means. 33% by dry weight should be the fatty foods, not pure fat or fat content by calories. He means 33% dry weight of avocados, nuts and seeds, etc.

When the other 66%, by dry weight, of foods comprise sweet fruits and greens, the fat calories is not all that high.

Edit: Oh, I see this has already been clarified...

Infinitus
06-20-2009, 03:47 PM
A lot of over eating is due to emotional factors. It helps to have something to be enthusiastic about, which is occupying, to take the mind away from food.

It would also help to live under more natural circumstances, such as well away from roads, mainstream people, and cities, etc.

Soose
08-02-2009, 05:51 AM
FWIW, on Vegan very high raw, my family and myself all ate much larger meal proportions than we eat now. Not been raw that long, 3 months long for my husband, less for my son and me, but I did notice the difference. But we used to consume HUGE salad plates at our second meal, and now the portions are noticeably less.

Not sure if we're eating less overall; maybe we're filling in with more fruits and nuts between meals. (Not what I'd like us to do; I think the interdigestive period is important for the body to focus on healing. Then again, the food we're eating like the fruit would take less time to digest.)

rawfoods
08-02-2009, 10:55 AM
At least you are overeating on healthy foods.. that's GREAT!

fonky
08-28-2009, 07:21 PM
Try to get on herbal teas, it helps a lot when you feel like eating everything!

Katie P
08-29-2009, 09:27 AM
Don't worry about percentages.....eat what your body wants----if it's raw of course :)! When I worried about fat & decreased it I gained, when I truley listened to my body it lost---even if that meant more fat.

*** Gosh, why does fat always get such a bad rep!!!!***

Your body may just need more nutrients to rebuild right now, so don't deprive it by any means....your eating all good foods so no need to worry. After time your body won't need as much. I remember when people posted that & I was new to raw I thought "how could my body not need as much food" it didn't make sense but now that I've transitioned to that point it makes alot of sense. But I was definetly the same way & ate alot in the beginning too!