What I usually eat. Please give your thoughts!!

[Peter Parker]

Ok let me do this. Im going to point out the obvious and answer my own questions but I want your input on what you do.

I know I should eat more when hungry especially on this diet.



breakfast:

Fruit Smoothie. With strawberries, blackberries, banana, pineapple, ice, and water blended until smooth :cool:


Snack:
banana!

Lunch:

Big ol salad, lots of spinach and kale. Also onions, 1 avacado, carrots, mushrooms, bell peppers, jalepeno peppers, and fresh herbs. half a lemon juiced for dressing.

snack:

fruit salad! with strawberries, apples, kiwi, pineapple,

dinner:

the paint off the fridge, anything that I can find. fast and furious. Im willing to be a mercenary at this point if I get paid in food.



What do you recommend, please :D

[misslinda]

Peter, what kitchen gadgets do you have?

[sweetgoddess]

I recommend more fun!

That is a wonderful menu of course, but for where I am at I think...well thats no fun.
I would spread some almond butter on that banana so I could moan while I eat it.

And it might help to know whats for dinner long before arriving home. And how about dessert? Blueberry pie, apple pie, ice cream, raw cookies, banana flax crackers with berries and almond butter, halvah......

What are your tastes? Sweet, savoury....how did you eat before raw? How do you feel about preparing food in the food processor, dehydrator etc?

Fill us in :D

[tracyinfo]

How about when you get home to have a small salad with olive oil and lemon juice. Then you will have a little time to prepare something to eat, a little more leisurely.

Some fast things that I make are soups. Do you have a recipe book? My favorite soups are gazpacho, cauliflower and chili (I think of is as a soup). They are all pretty easy and quick to make. Once in the food processor, it takes 1 to 2 minutes to be ready.

You can also (after you have had your appetizer) create some dishes that store well in the refrigerator. Marinated mushrooms, pickles, lasagnas, pates are but a few.

Sauerkraut can be made pretty quickly, and set in a warm place.

Hope this helps.

[misslinda]

I recommend more fun!


I would spread some almond butter on that banana so I could moan while I eat it.

:D


Moan? :D Chris is home too? Sorry couldn't resist. Yes! you need more excitement in you raw foods---think like your a 5 star culinary graduate of the FINE ARTS OF RAW FOODS and whip up some tasty meals for yourself----otherwise you will be shunned by raw.

I cruised the bookstore and found another recipe book that had recipes I did not think was possible !!!!!!!!!!

carmella, your so cute, that banana and raw almond is something I remember you saying when you first joined the boards. Ever since you mentioned it, it got me hooked!!!!!!!!!!! :) :p :D ;)

[sweetgoddess]

haha, no Chris is not home. But I always moan when eating something my senses adore.

Have to please those senses ya know! ;)

[Peter Parker]

Peter, what kitchen gadgets do you have?


excalibur 9 tray dehydrator with timer, champion juicer, citrus juicer, blender, lots of knives. hehe

thats about it for raw.

[Peter Parker]

I recommend more fun!

That is a wonderful menu of course, but for where I am at I think...well thats no fun.
I would spread some almond butter on that banana so I could moan while I eat it.

And it might help to know whats for dinner long before arriving home. And how about dessert? Blueberry pie, apple pie, ice cream, raw cookies, banana flax crackers with berries and almond butter, halvah......

What are your tastes? Sweet, savoury....how did you eat before raw? How do you feel about preparing food in the food processor, dehydrator etc?

Fill us in :D


food processor is fine, sprouting too, so is the dehydrator. I wanted to eat as if I was choosing fruits from the low limbs and veggies picked from the land by hand. well again, thats a cute dream and makes me feel warm and fuzzy until Im hungry.

then its whatever I get first. bean burritos, chips, whatever. I need to clean out my kitchen and take the cooked food to a shelter or a dontation area. because if Im hungry I will reach OVER the fruits and veggies for choclate soy milk and grab a bag of organic chips and munch away while reading this forum. yah its a sad site.

moaning over a banana. apparently Im not getting the same bananas as you. can you send me some of those?

[Peter Parker]

Moan? :D Chris is home too? Sorry couldn't resist. Yes! you need more excitement in you raw foods---think like your a 5 star culinary graduate of the FINE ARTS OF RAW FOODS and whip up some tasty meals for yourself----otherwise you will be shunned by raw.

I cruised the bookstore and found another recipe book that had recipes I did not think was possible !!!!!!!!!!

carmella, your so cute, that banana and raw almond is something I remember you saying when you first joined the boards. Ever since you mentioned it, it got me hooked!!!!!!!!!!! :) :p :D ;)


Im not sure I want to be a culinary graduate, I want to stay with simple foods. which may be antoher cute little dream thats not going to happen. I may end up beating juliano with some of my mixes one day. who knows.

[Peter Parker]

How about when you get home to have a small salad with olive oil and lemon juice. Then you will have a little time to prepare something to eat, a little more leisurely.

Some fast things that I make are soups. Do you have a recipe book? My favorite soups are gazpacho, cauliflower and chili (I think of is as a soup). They are all pretty easy and quick to make. Once in the food processor, it takes 1 to 2 minutes to be ready.

You can also (after you have had your appetizer) create some dishes that store well in the refrigerator. Marinated mushrooms, pickles, lasagnas, pates are but a few.

Sauerkraut can be made pretty quickly, and set in a warm place.

Hope this helps.

ive got a bunch of raw books but none come to mind when hungry. all that comes to mind this raw is for the birds. trick your body into liking this and it will submit. yeah thats detox. grr. eat whatever you want. and like a guy I say "ok"

[tracyinfo]

How about raw almond butter and honey! It works for me.


moaning over a banana. apparently Im not getting the same bananas as you. can you send me some of those?

[Peter Parker]

How about raw almond butter and honey! It works for me.

I try to stay clear of nuts, Ill eat about 10 or 12 a day (if that) honey is ok I guess as long as its raw and organic and comes from a place that is bee friendly.

[Ginger]

the paint off the fridge, anything that I can find. fast and furious. Im willing to be a mercenary at this point if I get paid in food.
http://tinypic.com/98yp7m.gif Don't I know that feeling! I used to be able to be raw all day long with no problem but in the evening I would haved gnawed my own arms off to get at some cooked food!

My suggestion is eat more or more often & try not to let yourself get hungry. It you just need to eat in the evenings but aren't really hungry, just wanting to snack, then eat whatever you have to at the time -RAW- even if it's not something you would normally allow or is not properly combined. Just do something to get you through the cravings & remember you won't have to eat like that all the time, just in the beginning!

[sport]

You do not seem to be having enough protein. You should soak some nuts or seeds before you go to bed ( alternate them but do not mix them) and add them to your morning smoothie. You need to take your protein in the morning

[Ginger]

I know you are trying to stay away from eating alot of nuts but there are two recipes that REALLY satisfied my cravings in the beginning:

http://p097.ezboard.com/frawforallfrm8.showMessage?topicID=8.topic

http://p097.ezboard.com/frawforallfrm8.showMessage?topicID=5.topic

Here are a couple of my favorites right now:

http://p097.ezboard.com/frawforallfrm8.showMessage?topicID=61.topic

http://p097.ezboard.com/frawforallfrm8.showMessage?topicID=58.topic

http://p097.ezboard.com/frawforallfrm8.showMessage?topicID=50.topic

http://p097.ezboard.com/frawforallfrm8.showMessage?topicID=42.topic

http://p097.ezboard.com/frawforallfrm8.showMessage?topicID=63.topic

[Peter Parker]

You do not seem to be having enough protein. You should soak some nuts or seeds before you go to bed ( alternate them but do not mix them) and add them to your morning smoothie. You need to take your protein in the morning


some of the largest animals in the world get their protein from greens not nuts. Lets look at the diet of a Hippopotamus and Elephants!.

In the wild the Hippopotamus eats soft grasses and other low lying plants, aquatic and reed plants, leaves, and fallen fruits.

Now lets look at elephants!

Elephants are plant eaters, or herbivores. Adult elephants eat about 300 pounds of food a day. It takes a long time to find and eat 300 pounds of food - they spend 16 to 20 hours a day eating!
They eat leaves, roots, grasses and bark. They love fruit - especially dates, plums, berries and coconuts. What they eat depends on their habitat and what is available to them.

some of the largest beasts! wheres the nuts?

[Arky]

Peter, I'd suggest you peel the skins off all those peppers (and tomatoes),if you are eating them very regularly. See my other posts if you wanna know why I'm suggesting this.

Essentially, your diet looks healthy enough. Have you considered adding a little ground flax to your smoothies? It'd slow down the 'sugar hit' a little and it would also add some beneficial Omega 3 to your diet, along with some very healthy mucilage which your digestive tract would thank you for.

Personally, I don't get on with onions - they give me horrendous mucus in my sinuses. Each to their own, though! ;)

Do you eat a whole avocado every day? I'm not entirely sure how much avocado it is healthy to consume every day but I generally tend to err on the side of caution and eat no more than half an avo per day, if I go through a period of eating them very regularly (note that I also consume a few nuts and seeds so I do not wish to consume too much total fat in my diet).

Kale is ace :)

All in all, I think you are on a pretty healthy path. Don't forget your Omega 3s though.

2 optional, but very worthwhile, additions you could make to your diet would be sprouts (contentious, I know! ;)) and seaweed. I find it very easy and painless to add a heaped tablespoon or two of seaweed to each of my smoothies. Provided you take good care to allow a 20minute soak, and blend the seaweed seperately to ensure it is blended thoroughly, the final result, mixed with the rest of the usual blend, is almost unnoticable, taste-wise, and the minerals you gain are enormous. I always used to take the advice to eat seaweed with more than a (metaphorical) pinch of salt. Having finally found a way to painlessly incorporate it into my daily diet, however, I've been wonderfully surprised at how much of a beneficial effect they've had - my hair, for example, is definitely thicker and stronger. If you are skeptical about this, then try blending 2 tablespoons of seaweed daily, as described above, and see for yourself!!


Regards,

J.

[sport]

I think that the protein in the morning theory is based on the old chinese bodyclock theory. It has always worked for me as I have never in my life been able to loose weight unless I had some form of more concentrated protein in the morning and I have carried that on to my raw. It would be very freeing to give up the notion but I think that it would take me a while to get used to it. I would feel a little empty.

[Peter Parker]

Peter, I'd suggest you peel the skins off all those peppers (and tomatoes),if you are eating them very regularly. See my other posts if you wanna know why I'm suggesting this.

Essentially, your diet looks healthy enough. Have you considered adding a little ground flax to your smoothies? It'd slow down the 'sugar hit' a little and it would also add some beneficial Omega 3 to your diet, along with some very healthy mucilage which your digestive tract would thank you for.

Personally, I don't get on with onions - they give me horrendous mucus in my sinuses. Each to their own, though! ;)

Do you eat a whole avocado every day? I'm not entirely sure how much avocado it is healthy to consume every day but I generally tend to err on the side of caution and eat no more than half an avo per day, if I go through a period of eating them very regularly (note that I also consume a few nuts and seeds so I do not wish to consume too much total fat in my diet).

Kale is ace :)

All in all, I think you are on a pretty healthy path. Don't forget your Omega 3s though.

2 optional, but very worthwhile, additions you could make to your diet would be sprouts (contentious, I know! ;)) and seaweed. I find it very easy and painless to add a heaped tablespoon or two of seaweed to each of my smoothies. Provided you take good care to allow a 20minute soak, and blend the seaweed seperately to ensure it is blended thoroughly, the final result, mixed with the rest of the usual blend, is almost unnoticable, taste-wise, and the minerals you gain are enormous. I always used to take the advice to eat seaweed with more than a (metaphorical) pinch of salt. Having finally found a way to painlessly incorporate it into my daily diet, however, I've been wonderfully surprised at how much of a beneficial effect they've had - my hair, for example, is definitely thicker and stronger. If you are skeptical about this, then try blending 2 tablespoons of seaweed daily, as described above, and see for yourself!!


Regards,

J.


Thank you :)

I do eat sprouts on my salad! Thats what I forgot to add in. usually alfalfa spouts, and peas and lentils sprouted.


The seaweed is a great idea! Thank you so much :D I take flax seed "oil" by the spoonfuls in the morning. 3 teaspoons to be exact and a daily b complex vitamin.

Ive been known to eat up to 4 avacados in one day. 1 on the salad, 3 in guacamole.

thank you for the comments!

[Peter Parker]

I know you are trying to stay away from eating alot of nuts but there are two recipes that REALLY satisfied my cravings in the beginning:

http://p097.ezboard.com/frawforallfrm8.showMessage?topicID=8.topic

http://p097.ezboard.com/frawforallfrm8.showMessage?topicID=5.topic

Here are a couple of my favorites right now:

http://p097.ezboard.com/frawforallfrm8.showMessage?topicID=61.topic

http://p097.ezboard.com/frawforallfrm8.showMessage?topicID=58.topic

http://p097.ezboard.com/frawforallfrm8.showMessage?topicID=50.topic

http://p097.ezboard.com/frawforallfrm8.showMessage?topicID=42.topic

http://p097.ezboard.com/frawforallfrm8.showMessage?topicID=63.topic


and thank you for the recipes :D which has now become a favorite in my browser :D

[Arky]

I'd suggest that any more than 2 avos a day is probably unwise (nothing drastic, but just not ideal).

With regard to the flax, the oil is great, but if you could bring yourself to grind seeds instead, and consume the whole lot, then you'd get the oil AND you'd get the very healthy fibre and mucilage of the seeds themselves. Other than thickening the blend somewhat, the seeds are actually not particularly gritty (themucilage makes them a little 'slimy, instead of gritty). Basically, if you grind a couple of tablespoons first, then create your blend, and then add the ground seeds, only a minute or so before drinking, to your blender and mix them nicely, you really won't find it very difficult at all to consume them. They taste mildly nutty and totally inoffensive. Others prefer to put them on salads or on muesli. Gandhi ackowledged the beneficial effects of whole flax. Udo Erasmus wrote a good section on flax in his book Fats The Heal; Fats That Kill I highly recommend you read this book if you haven't got around to doing so. It sounds really mundane but it's VERY educational and (I thought) surprisingly interesting. It's also a great reference.


J.

[Arky]

I'd suggest that any more than 2 avos a day is probably unwise (nothing drastic, but just not ideal). Vegans and Raw-Foodists are notorious for going heavy on the fats (just ask Dr Doug Graham, for example!) ;)

With regard to the flax, the oil is great, but if you could bring yourself to grind seeds instead, and consume the whole lot, then you'd get the oil AND you'd get the very healthy fibre and mucilage of the seeds themselves. Other than thickening the blend somewhat, the seeds are actually not particularly gritty (the mucilage makes them a little 'slimy', instead of gritty). Basically, if you grind a couple of tablespoons first, then create your blend, and then add the ground seeds, only a minute or so before drinking, to your blender and mix them nicely, you really won't find it very difficult at all to consume them. They taste mildly nutty and totally inoffensive. Others prefer to put them on salads or on muesli. Gandhi ackowledged the beneficial effects of whole flax. Udo Erasmus wrote a good section on flax in his book Fats The Heal; Fats That Kill I highly recommend you read this book if you haven't got around to doing so. It sounds really mundane but it's VERY educational and (I thought) surprisingly interesting. It's also a great reference. BTW, off the top of my head (a very tired one, too, as I type this at 1:50am), flax seed contains approximately 1/3rd oil by volume, so that should give you some idea of equivalent quantities.


J.

[Peter Parker]

I'd suggest that any more than 2 avos a day is probably unwise (nothing drastic, but just not ideal).

With regard to the flax, the oil is great, but if you could bring yourself to grind seeds instead, and consume the whole lot, then you'd get the oil AND you'd get the very healthy fibre and mucilage of the seeds themselves. Other than thickening the blend somewhat, the seeds are actually not particularly gritty (themucilage makes them a little 'slimy, instead of gritty). Basically, if you grind a couple of tablespoons first, then create your blend, and then add the ground seeds, only a minute or so before drinking, to your blender and mix them nicely, you really won't find it very difficult at all to consume them. They taste mildly nutty and totally inoffensive. Others prefer to put them on salads or on muesli. Gandhi ackowledged the beneficial effects of whole flax. Udo Erasmus wrote a good section on flax in his book Fats The Heal; Fats That Kill I highly recommend you read this book if you haven't got around to doing so. It sounds really mundane but it's VERY educational and (I thought) surprisingly interesting. It's also a great reference.


J.


I bought a coffee grinder for this purpose some time ago. I will put the flax seeds in the morning smoothie!

why the suggestion on the avacados, please?

[Arky]

oops - it seems I was editing as you were replying. My remark about avos was in the context of sustained daily consumption at that rate per day.


J.

[Doe]

I would be starving on what I perceive to be the amount you are eating. How big is that smoothie? And probably half of that water and ice? I eat somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 watermelon for breakfast. Then I’m not hungry until lunch at which time I eat 6 apples. Yes, gorillas, elephants, and bulls all do very well on vegetation - great amounts of vegetation. You can live very healthily on fruit and greens in great enough amounts. No wonder you were talking about not being able to think. Raw food (especially fruit and greens) has only a fraction of the (dirty word again) calories that the same volume of cooked food has. Eat more. This energetic 5’ tall, 100 pound woman - http://www.ringlet.org/ (http://www.ringlet.org/) - eats 3,000 fruit and greens calories a day.

Teri

[sweetgoddess]

wow, RawVeganMom...a new site! I thought I had read them all. How exciting. Thanks for the links.

Warmly~

[Peter Parker]

I would be starving on what I perceive to be the amount you are eating. How big is that smoothie? And probably half of that water and ice? I eat somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 watermelon for breakfast. Then I’m not hungry until lunch at which time I eat 6 apples. Yes, gorillas, elephants, and bulls all do very well on vegetation - great amounts of vegetation. You can live very healthily on fruit and greens in great enough amounts. No wonder you were talking about not being able to think. Raw food (especially fruit and greens) has only a fraction of the (dirty word again) calories that the same volume of cooked food has. Eat more. This energetic 5’ tall, 100 pound woman - http://www.ringlet.org/ (http://www.ringlet.org/) - eats 3,000 fruit and greens calories a day.

Teri


its a 16 ounce plastic cup full, the smoothie about a quarter is ice and quarter is water

I guess I should eat more, I just fear not losing weight. what else is your diet like, daily, please?

nice link, thanks

[Autumn]

How about having a snack on the way home from work, or if you can, a snack about an hour or less before you leave work-like baby carrots, celery or an apple-to take the edge off your hunger before you get home?

[RawTruth]

1) Get rid of all that SAD food -- now! Until you do, you're not really committed; it's there as a back door exit straight out of raw. I used freecycle to find a new home for mine.

2) Follow the menu plan in any of the raw foods books you have. Then your meals (evening especially) will be all ready - Alissa's are made ahead so they're just waiting for you. Several have them. Of course, I think Alissa's is darn fine since that's what I used -- and she's the gracious hostess of this site -- and I know you have her book. Have you watched the DVD yet? If not, definitely do that this weekend. You will be so inspired and so ready to use that incredible array of raw food equipment you've invested in.

3) I agree that, for where you are in starting raw, you're eating far less food than I was eating then -- and still do on some days now. On raw, the more you eat at the beginning, the better!!

4) Ditch the lemon-only dressing on the salad. Blend up some home made raw with some dynamite flavor and use that. It'll make a good salad into a fabulous one.

5) Toss in some green leaves to your morning smoothie to make a Green Smoothie. If you have a minute and aren't familiar with it, search on here for Green Smoothies and Victoria Boutenko and you'll know why I'm suggesting it.

6) Do NOT worry about your fat intake at this point. Refining your raw food diet can and will naturally come later -- months or even a year later. Staying 100% raw each day is what you need to achieve and maintain before you can even begin thinking about that. (Besides, if you're eating SAD stuff at night, you're ingesting unhealthy fats probably, so why worry about the healthy ones.)

7) Plan ahead so you don't allow yourself to get so hungry. You must eat something on the way home so you don't enter the house ravenous.

8) Eat every couple of hours. You aren't eating nearly enough snacks, IMHO. If that's some nuts, so be it. It will keep you raw. Screw worrying about the fats (I'm repeating myself, but I know you really want succeed at this!). This weekend, make up a bunch of fudge balls and take them with you to work or whenever you go out. Or make those luscious caramel-coconut cookies and keep those with you. Take advantage of the fact that you can eat anything you want for any meal. Make some of the oh so simple onion bread and stash a baggie full of it in your desk or briefcase. Buy some Larabars and keep your pockets stocked.

[Victoria]

Good post Raw Truth and definitely good advices.
If only you would not promote Alissa and hr products so vigorously.
Moderate promotion is Ok. I do not discount Alissa’s contribution to the raw food movement, but using her name in almost every post. Hmmm?
Are you working for her?

[Peter Parker]

1) Get rid of all that SAD food -- now! Until you do, you're not really committed; it's there as a back door exit straight out of raw. I used freecycle to find a new home for mine.


Talked to my wife about this, she said that she isnt so sure about this diet yet and dont want "her" food thrown out do to this. So that ones out of the game. Also, its not really food at home. Its a combination of all the places I pass on the way home. Or just for a few ice cold beers after work. yum.




2) Follow the menu plan in any of the raw foods books you have. Then your meals (evening especially) will be all ready - Alissa's are made ahead so they're just waiting for you. Several have them. Of course, I think Alissa's is darn fine since that's what I used -- and she's the gracious hostess of this site -- and I know you have her book. Have you watched the DVD yet? If not, definitely do that this weekend. You will be so inspired and so ready to use that incredible array of raw food equipment you've invested in.


I like her recipes, we did the guac on baby bella mushrooms last night. Its ok. Im still in the process of watching the dvd. While its over 3 hours I dont have that time I want to spend on just the dvd. Ive got to travel 4 hours on Monday for work. Im riding with someone so I will watch it on the company issued laptop and take some headphones. Ive watched about an hour and a half of it so far. When Im home there is so much I want to do or need to do since being at work a lot I do them instead of watching the dvd.


e

3) I agree that, for where you are in starting raw, you're eating far less food than I was eating then -- and still do on some days now. On raw, the more you eat at the beginning, the better!!


so lets think mono diet. if I wanted to eat bananas I should eat as many bananas as I want. even if its 6? that cant be good, surely?

On smoothies, they're filling. I enjoy the fruits currently. The greens are good but would prefer them in a salad. carrot juice is fine though. Still not as good as fruit.





4) Ditch the lemon-only dressing on the salad. Blend up some home made raw with some dynamite flavor and use that. It'll make a good salad into a fabulous one.


I like the lemon actually, I forget that I have it and enjoy the salad without dressing until I look back in my "bag" and see that I have the half a lemon.



5) Toss in some green leaves to your morning smoothie to make a Green Smoothie. If you have a minute and aren't familiar with it, search on here for Green Smoothies and Victoria Boutenko and you'll know why I'm suggesting it.


One of the rules of food combining Ive seen is not mixing vegetables and fruits. the exception being avocados. Again, would prefer a fruits to be in smoothies and greens be for salads. Is this bad or wrong?



6) Do NOT worry about your fat intake at this point. Refining your raw food diet can and will naturally come later -- months or even a year later. Staying 100% raw each day is what you need to achieve and maintain before you can even begin thinking about that. (Besides, if you're eating SAD stuff at night, you're ingesting unhealthy fats probably, so why worry about the healthy ones.)


At night Im willing to eat just about anything. I had a nice fruit salad yesterday around 3ish but was wanting cooked on the way home, as stated previously it doesnt matter whats in the house since I pass what ever kind of food establishment (except raw) you can think of :-/




7) Plan ahead so you don't allow yourself to get so hungry. You must eat something on the way home so you don't enter the house ravenous.


I have a few bananas left over at the end of the day. I know this may sound bad, they arent what I want then. The smell and texture of a banana just doesnt do it. Already tired of eating apples. I guess I should shop today and grab some interesting fruits.




8) Eat every couple of hours. You aren't eating nearly enough snacks, IMHO. If that's some nuts, so be it. It will keep you raw. Screw worrying about the fats (I'm repeating myself, but I know you really want succeed at this!). This weekend, make up a bunch of fudge balls and take them with you to work or whenever you go out. Or make those luscious caramel-coconut cookies and keep those with you. Take advantage of the fact that you can eat anything you want for any meal. Make some of the oh so simple onion bread and stash a baggie full of it in your desk or briefcase. Buy some Larabars and keep your pockets stocked.

Monday, which is one of the reasons Im taking the trip 4 hours away, the group of Senior Vice Presidents, our CEO, and various senior directors will be going to a very large steak house. The dinner is a kick off for an upcoming series of projects that will end up with me (and others) spending a lot of 2006 in Ireland and Poland. I cant really disrespect those guys by not eating at least a salad, possibly pasta and some wine while everyone is having huge steaks, fish, etc etc. If I was to go in with a baggy of food well that would be great humor for a long time and possibly be a career limiting move.

Back in my office I can do what you suggest :) but Monday night will be a different story.

[Shona]

I wouldn't worry too much about food combining in the beginning, but according to Dr. Doug Graham - who is a Natural Hygienist - lettuce combines very well with fruit, so a green smoothie is properly combined. You can add a couple of leaves to start with and work your way up later. You won't even taste it, but you will get the nutrients.

If you want to mono-meal 6 bananas, go right ahead. I'm a little person [just under five feet] and I can eat 6 bananas no problem. It isn't too much and you won't gain weight.

You said you get hungrier at night. That would probably be the best time to eat foods that are higher in fat or more calorically dense, like the avocado, dried fruit, or a few nuts. They may help you feel more satisfied. Also, being hungrier at night might be a sign that you aren't eating enough during the day. Raw foods don't have as many calories as cooked food and some people do have to eat more.

Keep trying new things and experimenting. You will find what works for you. Have faith and good luck!

Shona :)

[Peter Parker]

I wouldn't worry too much about food combining in the beginning, but according to Dr. Doug Graham - who is a Natural Hygienist - lettuce combines very well with fruit, so a green smoothie is properly combined. You can add a couple of leaves to start with and work your way up later. You won't even taste it, but you will get the nutrients.


I feel that lettuce should only be used when spinach cant be found. Dr. Doug Graham's 80/10/10 is confusing at best, to me. I dont have interest or too lazy or some combination there in to do 80/10/10. Reminds me of one of the phone commercials for dialing long distance for cheaper.

in my mind:

bill payer says: "Wow my long distance bill is 30 dollars higher!!!"

friend says: oh have you tried 80/10/10 for long distance! It will save you money! thats right, 80/10/10! I saved 100 dollars using 80/10/10! Now I can buy a new outfit and send little timmy to college! Thanks 80/10/10!

then a fast talking guy says something about 80/10/10 while the person enjoys less expensive long distance to her grandmother on her birthday. When before without 80/10/10 she wouldnt have been able to call!

LOL you get my point?



If you want to mono-meal 6 bananas, go right ahead. I'm a little person [just under five feet] and I can eat 6 bananas no problem. It isn't too much and you won't gain weight.


sweet. thank you :) no "bad" health benefits, if you will, of eating 6 bananas? Like my blood pressure wont sky rocket or anything of that nature? No potassium overload?



You said you get hungrier at night. That would probably be the best time to eat foods that are higher in fat or more calorically dense, like the avocado, dried fruit, or a few nuts. They may help you feel more satisfied. Also, being hungrier at night might be a sign that you aren't eating enough during the day. Raw foods don't have as many calories as cooked food and some people do have to eat more.


This makes sense to me, I think I will eat the higher fat foods in the evenings. A bowl of guac will work great :D Thank you :)




Keep trying new things and experimenting. You will find what works for you. Have faith and good luck!



I really appreciate your response! I have faith in my mind, now just to trick my body until the cravings go away.



Shona :)

:)

[Jodi]

Good post Raw Truth and definitely good advices.
If only you would not promote Alissa and hr products so vigorously.
Moderate promotion is Ok. I do not discount Alissa’s contribution to the raw food movement, but using her name in almost every post. Hmmm?
Are you working for her?

I would say that RawTruth just believes in Alissa and how she presents the raw food diet. Just because she may metion her in her posts doesn't mean she works for her. Just means she likes her a lot.

[Peter Parker]

I think Victoria needs a hug. No need to attack people on threads, please. if you have an issue with someone or a post please contact a moderator.

Thats one reason they are picked/appointed.

[sweetgoddess]

Nobody here works for Alissa, Victoria, but the majority of us consider her a friend and mentor and think her products are fabulous, because we HAVE them and they have served us so well.
And this is, after all, a site free to you, payed for by Alissa.
Once again, I am going to urge you to use a little tact and respect in your responses on the forum.
Thank you!

[Jodi]

I think Victoria needs a hug. No need to attack people on threads, please. if you have an issue with someone or a post please contact a moderator.

Thats one reason they are picked/appointed.


Sorry, Peter Parker...I didn' feel I was attacking Victoria. I thougth I was pretty tactful in my comment to her.

[sweetgoddess]

Oh Jodi, I dont think he meant you!!!

[Jodi]

Oh, Okey dokey...I wasn't sure. :)

[Doe]

its a 16 ounce plastic cup full, the smoothie about a quarter is ice and quarter is water

I guess I should eat more, I just fear not losing weight. what else is your diet like, daily, please?
Peter, what you are eating is fine if that's what you want. Just eat more. Tomorrow try making a 28 oz smoothie. (I never add water or ice to my blenderized fruit. Yes it’s thick but still drinkable. If I use bananas, I add oranges or something else juicy.) If you can't drink it all at once wait 15 min and drink the rest. If you need a snack eat as many bananas as you can hold. At lunch try eating as much fruit as you can hold. If you are hungry later eat something else raw. If you want to avoid heaver foods then fruit is your fuel. You will not gain weight eating fruit and greens in as large an amount as you can hold. Take a look at Doug Graham; he can eat 21 bananas at one sitting! No fat on him.

If you eat salads put them in family serving bowls rather than individual serving bowls. Greens have next to no calories you could not gain weight if you were to eat 10 lbs of them. You would soon die on greens alone because you would not eat enough of them. There is a reason the animals you talked about eat 300lb of greens daily.

What Raw Truth said about getting rid of the cooked food is the only way to do it. Like you I tend to avoid nuts and oils. (My daily fruits tend to stay the same for a while and change after a few weeks or even months in some cases. After about 5 or 6 in the afternoon I eat whatever raw foods I want at the time, as much as I can hold. Usually it includes greens, sometimes not. Last night I ate apple pie - ground soaked almonds and raisins, and chopped apples - Yum! It was a rare meal. This morning I weighed 1/2 lb less than yesterday morning. No weight gain from nuts.)

Peter, raw nuts and oils are a giant step forward from cooked. Those who eat less raw than cooked eat nuts and oils. If that’s what they want, great! It’s better than cooked. If you are not able or willing to eat enough fruit and greens, then anything raw in the largest amount you can hold is better than cooked. You would not believe the calories in a veggie sandwich. Even without cheese, oil, olives, or dressing the bread will put weight on you.

When hungry eat raw, eat as much as you can hold.

Hope this helps,
Teri

[RawTruth]

Good post Raw Truth and definitely good advices.
If only you would not promote Alissa and hr products so vigorously.
Moderate promotion is Ok. I do not discount Alissa’s contribution to the raw food movement, but using her name in almost every post. Hmmm?
Are you working for her?Victoria -- I don't know how you found this forum. I read about it in Alissa's book which was the book I chose as my introduction to raw. When I checked out her website, I found that she had established this forum to function much as an online support group for people who desired to adopt a 100% raw vegan lifestyle (or who had already). Finding and using this forum within days of first going 100% raw is what kept me raw at the beginning and is the place I (obviously) still go to for raw discussion with like-minded people. Also, for the recipes and food prep talk. If you haven't noticed, Alissa is usually a daily participant. Even when she doesn't post, she keeps track of the threads and functions as a very active owner/moderator.

While I have many other raw food books now and have attended, and continue to attend, raw food lectures, events, meetings, and just plain going out to eat with well-educated-in-raw friends, I think that Alissa's book is still the most accessible, easy to understand, and the best book to use in order achieve success going and staying 100% raw. That has been my experience and the experience of others I have become acquainted with.

When new members come here asking the most basic questions and showing they have little to no background in raw nor are they doing much independent research in raw and are floundering, what immediately jumps to mind is: I wish they had Living on Live Food so they'd have the answers they're looking for, a plan for going 100% raw starting immediately, a shopping list, a month of menus, and testimonials to inspire them. So, when I mention it, it's because I'm convinced it will help people. (It's pretty obvious you're new here if you truly believe I use Alissa's name "in almost every post" -- I have well over 1,000 posts. Surely you haven't read them all.) Hey, I may be irritating to some and seem repetitive to others, but I am not out of line in this regard.

Criticizing me for mentioning Alissa and her book here is like going to vegsource.com - Raw and Athletic (or whatever that forum is called) and deriding members for ascribing to Doug Graham's advice even though it is his discussion group and it supports his particular 80-10-10 raw theory. Likewise, this is Alissa Cohen's forum. It is linked to and accessible from her website -- on purpose.

Lastly, the spirit of this forum is typically supportive, warm, accepting, and inclusive. If you spend more time here, I hope you'll realize that sending a Private Message directly to a person with whom you have an issue is better than sidetracking a thread like you have here.

[Gosia]

your menus looked great to me! I eat in a very similar way to yours, and I do not feel bored at all, neither do I feel the need for nuts, flax or dehydrated stuff. Like you, I enjoy simple foods. Fruit, green salads. This way of eating is perfect for me.

Gosia.

[CAdreamer]

Doe...Teri,

I just read over your website...very nice and HAPPY 40th this month !!
i remember 40...it was a GREAT year.

[sweetgoddess]

Great post RawTruth. And you are not irritating, you are so well-informed and are doing this with all your being, and your experiences and perspectives are definitely valued.
Victoria is no longer with us, so you can smile on that count.

Have a lovely day in sunny Cal.

[tames]

For the rest of you folks, I will try to explain Peter's real problem. Peter you can read this too if you want :)

Peter is in the computer field. Those of us in this field (I am a programmer/analyst) tend to analyze everything to the MAX. We tend to think in black and white and very logically. The raw food methods are quite varied. I think Alissa's way - at least for beginners - is the most sensible. Ahh, but not necessarily logical. Eat whatever you want whenever you want! With just a little thought about food combining. But for beginners she says not to worry about it at all. Your body will tell you "ehhh, that wasn't a good idea". What? Huh? Where's all the rules? Listen to my what? I need set in concrete rules so that if I eat this, this is what will happen.... (as in a computer language)

Like, the other day, I ate MELON with fruit and a salad. AHHHH - Melon should be eaten alone! You better admit me to the hospital! Well I didn't keel over, I didn't get a nosebleed, my ears didn't turn red from a jump in my bloodpressure, in fact I experienced no ill effect whatsoever. Not even a lot of gas!

I think that if you worry about every little detail in this journey, you will never make it. It will become obsessive and stressfull rather than a journey to good health. Peter, please relax a little and just let it happen. I know it is hard with a logical, practical mind, but the more I do that the more my thinking changes about a lot of things.

This is such a great forum. A lot of people really care here.

--Tim