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RawDate
01-16-2009, 02:54 AM
hey just wondering how many of you out there would date a non-vegan?

i have a poll on my site at http://RawDate.com (dating site for raw foodies) and quite a few raw folks say "yes" to this question!

Personally, I can't stand the bad smell .. i'd never date a cooked meat eater!!

Alexandria
01-16-2009, 05:38 AM
The most important thing for me in a relationship is having things in common, and having the same morals, so I could never date a guy who ate meat.

jurence
01-16-2009, 06:36 AM
Those are some hot guys on the front are you sure they are all raw before I get my hopes up?

I'd eat uncooked fish if I weren't vegan

sarahrjm
01-16-2009, 07:02 AM
As long as the cooked meat eater respected my opinion, and supported my food choices.....thats fine. My boyfriend of 4 years is a meat eater,.........I would NEVER limit myself that much, It could put you in a situation where you are not only with the way you eat, but just alone. just my opinion!

~LovesToEat~
01-16-2009, 08:00 AM
I am married to one. I guess its ok if you have respect for each others views. My problems are not meat (which I cook for DH) its sweets, bread , and pasta, which he dont eat so they never come into the house and its not a problem anymore unless I bring it into the house.

If meat is not a problem for you they having a meat eater will not be a problem.

Ethical views are another matter.

devil's angel
01-16-2009, 08:58 AM
I agree that as long as they support your way of living than it shouldn't be a problem . my husband loves the SAD diet , I'll cook for him but won't eat it because Ilove him.

domestic goddess
01-16-2009, 09:57 AM
I married a vegetarian who will basically eat what I give him, lol. I did date meat eaters before I was married. It was ok then as they respected my choice not to eat meat. However, now...I don't think I could. Being vegan and raw has evolved into so much more for *me* that I think it would not be possible.

boocake
01-16-2009, 01:54 PM
my boyfriend is also a meat eater, and it was never an issue for us because we never viewed it as an issue. i don't impose my raw beliefs upon him, and he doesn't dangle a steak in front of my face, LOL. our common respect and acceptance for each others differences is what makes me feel very safe in my choices, and in my relationship in general. he is very open minded regarding food though, and just recently tried his very first jujube fruit! :)

Rawzula
01-16-2009, 01:55 PM
Yes, I would date a meat eater, as long as he respected my way of eating....and not eat animal products in my presence.

Revvell
01-16-2009, 01:56 PM
I married one. There's more between us than the food we eat. He eats what he wants/enjoys and I eat what I want/enjoy. Life is good.

ViolinCyndee
01-16-2009, 02:41 PM
I couldn't. To me.. I am vegan for ethical reasons, and wouldn't be able to feel close to a person who contributes to the torture and death of innocent creatures.

I am married to a non-raw vegan, and don't mind cooking his food for him, though.. :D

pixelkatt
01-16-2009, 02:55 PM
I married one. There's more between us than the food we eat. He eats what he wants/enjoys and I eat what I want/enjoy. Life is good.

ditto :D:):D

cherrypie
01-16-2009, 04:33 PM
i am as well married to one and that was never a problem. He is actually now having every morning a big green smoothie instead of conventional breakfast and enjoys it a lot.

dread head vegan
01-16-2009, 08:35 PM
when my husband and i met he wasn't a vegitarian. i went vegan 2 months before we god married and 6 months later he went vegan too :D he isn't raw yet but he is planning to when his deployment is over:D

RawSar
01-16-2009, 09:36 PM
When I started researching into health and became vegan I started looking for a man who was AT LEAST vegetarian, thinking that would be hard. I got lucky and met my boyfriend who's raw vegan and has been for longer than we have been dating. :)
So if I were single again.. I'd do the same thing I did before, the search for at least a vegetarian.

RawHeaven
01-16-2009, 09:44 PM
I went on a campaign last year to find a veggie man. I put up ads on the green singles sites. And I met some lovely, wonderful men. Some were jerks, but very few. I was solely focused on them being vegan and I went from there. I don't think that approach worked out too well for me. :o I've come to know that when it's time, you don't have a darn thing to do with it. hahaaa. I've been in my new city for a month and I've met a great man who I wasn't expecting to meet. He's a meat eater & health conscious. He's great and he respects how I eat....no jokes about eating grass and all of that. LOL. In fact, we went out for Thai and I was very excited because they had all kinds of sprouts and they made me a special sprout & green salad. He shared in the excitement while he enjoyed his food. He's already asking me inquiring questions about raw foods and I'm not saying a thing to influence him, but he's increased his greens and started making smoothies. I didn't have half as much as fun with the vegan guys as I do with him. For me personally, I'm no longer on that campaign, but just happy living in the present and grateful to have connected with a special person.

AutumnBreezColordLeavz
01-16-2009, 11:03 PM
I was married to him before going raw. He is better about respecting me this time than the first time I attempted it. More support.

If I were not with anyone and just starting to search out a mate?
I would look for same minded of course. Evenly yoked as possible...
Religion beliefs are more important than food when finding some one
as a life mate. That is my opinion.

Having the same food/diet would just make meal making simpler.
Meat eaters are going to be more prone to build up of parasites, and the passing of those are more likely. More detox events for the rawbee.

SekhemNefer
01-17-2009, 05:04 AM
I don't mind dating a meat-eater, because I don't have a problem eating meat. I just have a problem with people consuming meat in such large quantities that the health and care of the animals are poor and inhumane.

If he is going to be a meat eater, I will just stress that he eat meat from companies that are humane with the animals and feed them organically. And try not to eat from fast food restaurants as possible since they don't give a damn about the conditions of animals.

But being sure that I am the woman and men usually leave the cooking and food preparations up to us, I don't worry about things like this, because I know I will be an influence on how food is eaten eventually. Even if I would have to cook for my future boyfriend, I will make sure he is prepared healthy foods and slowly but surely add more raw foods to his palate.

I don't know how Raw men deal with meat-eaters, or SAD people, but I know that the last thing a woman needs to do is nag to a man about anything. Especially how he should eat. The best she can do is cater to his needs a little, but "sneak" in the Raw little by little more and more into his diet. Don't argue about it, don't preach about it, just say, "Okay, honey you said you can't live without eating cheeseburgers." So I will fix him a healthy cheeseburger, but also make him a nice, big, tasty salad to go with it with a huge green-berry smoothie. Maybe fix him some raw cookies or brownies for dessert.

That's how you do things as a woman and food provider for your man.

pixelkatt
01-17-2009, 08:48 AM
Awe.. This made me smile.. :) It's so true (when it's time, you don't have a darn thing to do with it)..


I went on a campaign last year to find a veggie man. I put up ads on the green singles sites. And I met some lovely, wonderful men. Some were jerks, but very few. I was solely focused on them being vegan and I went from there. I don't think that approach worked out too well for me. :o I've come to know that when it's time, you don't have a darn thing to do with it. hahaaa. I've been in my new city for a month and I've met a great man who I wasn't expecting to meet. He's a meat eater & health conscious. He's great and he respects how I eat....no jokes about eating grass and all of that. LOL. In fact, we went out for Thai and I was very excited because they had all kinds of sprouts and they made me a special sprout & green salad. He shared in the excitement while he enjoyed his food. He's already asking me inquiring questions about raw foods and I'm not saying a thing to influence him, but he's increased his greens and started making smoothies. I didn't have half as much as fun with the vegan guys as I do with him. For me personally, I'm no longer on that campaign, but just happy living in the present and grateful to have connected with a special person.

freshlight
01-17-2009, 08:58 AM
I wouldn't. Their smell and their attitude put me off completely. It's much better to be alone (for me) :)
Men who conciously eat "organic animals" put me off even more because animals weren't created for our meals.
They want to live, just like we do.
Thinking about it the way I do, wouldn't make it possible to put up with those things on a daily basis.

Davylp25
01-17-2009, 09:37 AM
If they respect me for my choice of eating, then I respect their choice as well. Sure we can play! hehe

Revvell
01-17-2009, 10:12 AM
I wouldn't. The smell and the attitude puts me off completely. It's much better to be alone (for me) :)


Ummm, what attitude? :confused:

freshlight
01-17-2009, 10:40 AM
Ummm, what attitude? :confused:

to look at the animals as our food. It's a completely different way of thinking

Revvell
01-17-2009, 11:57 AM
to look at the animals as our food. It's a completely different way of thinking

Oh heck. Most don't even relate that the carcasses they're eating come from animals. Intellectually they know but they don't internalize it. No thinking involved.

freshlight
01-17-2009, 01:19 PM
Oh heck. Most don't even relate that the carcasses they're eating come from animals. Intellectually they know but they don't internalize it. No thinking involved.

of course.
but as soon as they meet a vegan, they do start thinking about it and if they are not willing to change anything then it's a hopeless case. And nagging or telling people what they should do is just not me.
To each his own.
I think that loneliness is a bliss :D
Eva

Revvell
01-17-2009, 01:46 PM
of course.
but as soon as they meet a vegan, they do start thinking about it and if they are not willing to change anything then it's a hopeless case. And nagging or telling people what they should do is just not me.
To each his own.
I think that loneliness is a bliss :D
Eva

LOL Himself *looks around* engineers my shows. He doesn't think about it and he's not willing to eat differently at this time and he's not hopeless by any means and, I don't nag. I figure he's grown and can make his own decisions.

Aloneness can be bliss ~ not lonliness imo. I LOVE being alone ~ at times. ;)
Leaving others to their otherness is bliss to me. :)

Bananna
01-17-2009, 02:12 PM
I fantasize that one day my dh will become raw vegan...it would have to be straight to raw vegan though as he's allergic to soy. The raw stuff though is tricky also for him as he hates nuts and seeds, even worse blended into a dip and he hates dates and agave. ho hum.

I think you have to make concessions to be in a relationship. Period. If you aren't willing to bend on the food thing, then you'll have to end up bending in some other area....

I really would like to be dating a vegetarian though...but not about to break up my family over it.

My deal breaker would be smoking though. I would Never, Ever date a smoker. Or an alchoholic or any other kind of addict. Or a jerk. Or a player. Or someone with even remotely bad hygiene....and so on.

....like I mean, if my dh took up any of these things I actually would end the relationship. Meat-eating, no...that just doesn't affect me heavily enough... but I completely respect the choice to be strict on that...

freshlight
01-17-2009, 02:35 PM
LOL Himself *looks around* engineers my shows. He doesn't think about it and he's not willing to eat differently at this time and he's not hopeless by any means and, I don't nag. I figure he's grown and can make his own decisions.

Aloneness can be bliss ~ not lonliness imo. I LOVE being alone ~ at times. ;)
Leaving others to their otherness is bliss to me. :)

Dear Revvell, is this a misunderstanding?
I was not criticising you or anyone else. I did only try to express what's right for me. I did never say that your hubby is hopeless.
As long as I don't have to have a carnivore partner I'm happy with everyone else's choice.
You are right about the "aloneness" but I wasn't sure there is such a word :D
Have fun :)
Eva

Revvell
01-17-2009, 06:03 PM
Dear Revvell, is this a misunderstanding?

Not in the least. See the "lol"? *points* :D



I was not criticising you or anyone else. I did only try to express what's right for me. I did never say that your hubby is hopeless.

I didn't say that you were. I was saying it.



You are right about the "aloneness" but I wasn't sure there is such a word :D
Have fun :)
Eva

I've been known to make up my own words.. although some need to blame them on English t.v. shows or something. :rolleyes:

freshlight
01-17-2009, 06:06 PM
Wonderful! :)
.....or should I better say rawnderful :D

pixelkatt
01-17-2009, 06:16 PM
I've been known to make up my own words.. although some need to blame them on English t.v. shows or something. :rolleyes:

ROTFL!! :p:D:p

Revvell
01-17-2009, 06:58 PM
*schnorks @ the PixelKatt* :D

Inca_faerie
01-17-2009, 07:06 PM
Honestly I'd "prefer" a vegan, but if I saw a guy and ended up with a cupids arrow in my butt, I wouldn't say to him "be gone with you, mammal muncher!" You love who you love, you can't pick and choose, they designed it that way. :D

pixelkatt
01-17-2009, 07:19 PM
...don't schnork!! It's not very becoming.. *giggles* :D:p:D

SekhemNefer
01-17-2009, 07:46 PM
I wouldn't. Their smell and their attitude put me off completely. It's much better to be alone (for me) :)
Men who conciously eat "organic animals" put me off even more because animals weren't created for our meals.
They want to live, just like we do.
Thinking about it the way I do, wouldn't make it possible to put up with those things on a daily basis.

Well, humans are omnivores, even our primate relatives like chimapanzees are meat-aters. Gorillas not so much, but gorillas are too big to move fast enough to kill prey. Their heavy weight makes them only be able to sprint really fast for short distances, but orangutans, chimps and other large primates are meat-eaters, but mostly eat a high plant diet and only eat meat to only supplement their diet when vegetation is scarces.

I think Humans emulated this pattern as well. However, due to the Industrial Revolution with agriculture being more of a capitalistic mass market venture, humans began to consume more meat than vegetation.

Meat has always been a supplementary source when vegetation is scarces.

Everything wants to live like we do. However, in reality all things won't live and will be prey to something else. I am sure that a deer would like to live like we do, but that lion ain't gonna have any problem ripping it apart in order to have a meal. And this idea of having carnivore pets, like cats and dogs, and trying to turn them into vegans is...goofy. Vegans trying to turn carnivores animals into vegans, because they can't stand ANYTHING eating meat, or killing another animal for food. I just wonder why don't these people just get a natural born vegan pet like guinea pig, hamster or goat, instead of trying to force a cat, snake or dog to eat tofu and spinach. LOL

It is a fact of life that some animals and humans are on top of the food pyramid and other animals and living things...even get darn petty about it...even plants and vegetation are living things and many plant life is mixed with human life. There are plant "animals" where plants eat meat. So you can say that grass, a fruit tree and you turnips feel pain and dies when you pull it out the grown.

If you really think about it this arguement will never end, because killing a living thing for food is still killing a living thing. I guess some people would like to think that vegetation can't have feelings nor feel pain when destroyed or dying. I am sure, if thing are living...it can feel something.


Again, there is a thin line between vegetation and animal life. There are lots of plants that are animals, or animals that are plants...like the Venus fly trap. Or many sea vegetables that kill fish to eat, even though they are technically oceanic plants.


Being prey, being killed or the killer is a part of life. Humans are not the only things the kill for food. No need to put a moral or ethical dogma to eating meat...this is just part of life...Period. What I question is agricultural practices. I don't want animals inhumanely die no more than I want vegetation life being inhumanely poisoned with pesticides and herbacides in order to kill off animals, insects and other life forms who need to eat vegetation for food, but humans being greedy want all the food source for ourselves in order to make a greedy profit.

I guess many vegetarians or vegans feel that as long their apples, celery sticks and watermelons don't have fur, cute eyes and whiskers that they not destroying a life-form for food. I am sure that fruits and vegetables is aware of being plucked from the ground where it dies a slowly everyday to rot in our refrigerator since it not being feed and watered by the nutrients and moisture in the ground.

Fruits and vegetables is no different to me than people cutting down flowers to decorate in their homes...it lives and out of its natural state...it dies. But I guess being a carrot killer, by plucking it from the ground is tolerable, even though you prevent the carrot from living by taking it out where it can get nutrients.

In reality, we are starving many fruits and veggies when harvesting...that is why they die and rot produce aisle and the fridge. And I am sure that your aloe vera plant appreciate when you tear off a stem in order to heal your cuts and wounds. Nor a basil or your thyme plant is happy that your pluck off its leaves from the stems so you can flavor your foods.

Again...this "killing living things" arguement can go on and on and on.

SekhemNefer
01-17-2009, 07:55 PM
Honestly I'd "prefer" a vegan, but if I saw a guy and ended up with a cupids arrow in my butt, I wouldn't say to him "be gone with you, mammal muncher!" You love who you love, you can't pick and choose, they designed it that way. :D

:D

Mammal muncher! *dies laughing*

I can see a PETA protest saying this. "Die, die, mammal munchers. Die, die mammal munchers!!!"

:p

Revvell
01-18-2009, 07:37 AM
...don't schnork!! It's not very becoming.. *giggles* :D:p:D

*Big sigh* 'k mom. *schnorks as soon as she turns her back* :D

Revvell
01-18-2009, 07:38 AM
Everything wants to live like we do.

Do they think about this much?

freshlight
01-18-2009, 08:14 AM
May I politely disagree with your point of view, SN? :D



Again...this "killing living things" arguement can go on and on and on.

That's why I never argue about it. Take care, Eva

freshlight
01-18-2009, 08:16 AM
Honestly I'd "prefer" a vegan, but if I saw a guy and ended up with a cupids arrow in my butt, I wouldn't say to him "be gone with you, mammal muncher!" You love who you love, you can't pick and choose, they designed it that way. :D

Hey Inca :)

I think you CAN pick and choose and that's the best part of it.
Your life is in your hands. Enjoy it :D

BTW: have you read "The BFG"? I love the way he talks.
Cheers from Eva

pixelkatt
01-18-2009, 10:14 AM
*Big sigh* 'k mom. *schnorks as soon as she turns her back* :D

LOL.. :D You're so bad!! :p:p

Inca_faerie
01-18-2009, 10:20 AM
Hey Inca :)

I think you CAN pick and choose and that's the best part of it.
Your life is in your hands. Enjoy it :D

BTW: have you read "The BFG"? I love the way he talks.
Cheers from Eva

Hey freshlight! Well if you can choose you're lucky.;) For me when the lightening bolt hits it doesn't exclude meateaters. Plus the guys I'm attracted to are usually the muscular/rugged type. It's VERY hard to find a vegan one of these.

I haven't read it but I'll check it out.:)

pixelkatt
01-18-2009, 10:31 AM
Again...this "killing living things" arguement can go on and on and on.

Wow! :) You thought way more about this question than I did, lol.. That was a LONG post..

I think it's a personal decision. I personally don't have a problem obviously because I'm married to a meat eater and I just recently became raw vegan, so for me it's not about ethics.. but for others it is and I totally get that if they can't wrap their brain around the idea of eating animals, then they don't want someone around them who is going to eat animals. For them it's that simple and I get it..

All other arguments aside because I don't think it's about the argument.. it's about an individuals decision about who they want in their life.. :)

freshlight
01-18-2009, 11:02 AM
Hey freshlight! Well if you can choose you're lucky.;) For me when the lightening bolt hits it doesn't exclude meateaters. Plus the guys I'm attracted to are usually the muscular/rugged type. It's VERY hard to find a vegan one of these.

I haven't read it but I'll check it out.:)

Hey Inca,

perhaps you are right....I just don't fall in love that easily anymore. I did have a rel. with an animal consumer and it was an extremely boring one, so I learned my lesson :D
"The Big Friendly Giant" is a funny book,-I enjoy reading it to my children. If you like Roald Dahl you'll love that book. I bet they have it in each libriary.
Have a great warm day :)

freshlight
01-18-2009, 11:04 AM
*Big sigh* 'k mom. *schnorks as soon as she turns her back* :D

now you gotta explain what *schnork* means.....to the ignorant little me :)

Revvell
01-18-2009, 11:27 AM
LOL.. :D You're so bad!! :p:p

That's why ya likes me. Nod,nod,nod. :D

Revvell
01-18-2009, 11:35 AM
Plus the guys I'm attracted to are usually the muscular/rugged type. It's VERY hard to find a vegan one of these.
:)

Here's one. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDN9hZGjtzA)

Revvell
01-18-2009, 11:37 AM
now you gotta explain what *schnork* means.....to the ignorant little me :)

Ever make that sound when you're drinking something and something strikes you as funny?

Pking
01-18-2009, 12:02 PM
From a guy's viewpoint, most women I know are meat-eaters. For me it's a matter of respect. I know women who are meat eaters and have some beautiful traits about themselves. On the other hand, I know some ladies who are raw & vegans who so self-centered that I even hate to be around them. But I've met some beautiful raw/vegan ladies as well. As for dating an animal eater, I consider my food experience as a sort of a ministry or testimonial to my health. When we talk about food, I simply tell them the condition I was in before I went raw/vegan. Overweight, high blood/cholesterol levels, never exercise, etc. and how changing to raw/vegan has improved my health tremendously along with weight loss. I show them pictures of me pre-raw. I feel that by doing this ceases any preconceived thoughts they may have about raw/vegan people being "weird," "nature freaks," and other labels society may have put on us. The beauty I've found is that when you simply be yourself and be respectful, and don't try to "preach" raw/vegan diet on animal eaters, they in turn will respect your eating habits and may probably try it for themselves. So will I date an animal eater who seems to possess beautiful traits----YUP!!

freshlight
01-18-2009, 12:04 PM
Ever make that sound when you're drinking something and something strikes you as funny?

oh dear! :D
hahaha

Revvell
01-18-2009, 12:26 PM
hear! hear!


From a guy's viewpoint, most women I know are meat-eaters. For me it's a matter of respect. I know women who are meat eaters and have some beautiful traits about themselves. On the other hand, I know some ladies who are raw & vegans who so self-centered that I even hate to be around them. But I've met some beautiful raw/vegan ladies as well. As for dating an animal eater, I consider my food experience as a sort of a ministry or testimonial to my health. When we talk about food, I simply tell them the condition I was in before I went raw/vegan. Overweight, high blood/cholesterol levels, never exercise, etc. and how changing to raw/vegan has improved my health tremendously along with weight loss. I show them pictures of me pre-raw. I feel that by doing this ceases any preconceived thoughts they may have about raw/vegan people being "weird," "nature freaks," and other labels society may have put on us. The beauty I've found is that when you simply be yourself and be respectful, and don't try to "preach" raw/vegan diet on animal eaters, they in turn will respect your eating habits and may probably try it for themselves. So will I date an animal eater who seems to possess beautiful traits----YUP!!

pixelkatt
01-18-2009, 12:57 PM
Here's one. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDN9hZGjtzA)

Oh Revvell.. What are we gonna do with you??? :D:p:D

pixelkatt
01-18-2009, 01:07 PM
The beauty I've found is that when you simply be yourself and be respectful, and don't try to "preach" raw/vegan diet on animal eaters, they in turn will respect your eating habits and may probably try it for themselves. So will I date an animal eater who seems to possess beautiful traits----YUP!!

I agree.. I feel so lucky that even though my husband is not raw/vegan, he understands how passionate I have become about this.. he gets it and he listens to me.. (and trust me sometimes I can ramble on and on about raw food, lol)..

I think the best thing he has ever said to me was after first going raw when I was telling him that I had no idea if I would stick to this but it felt right, that he thought that this time I WOULD stick to it and that he could see something in me and just knew that I would most likely be this way for the rest of my life.. He has NEVER said something like that about one of the quarky/wacky things I've been into (not that raw vegan is quarky/wacky to me but to some people it is).. THAT to me was worth more than anything.. I almost cried.. so as long as I have someone who loves me enough to care what I care about (even if they don't practice it for themselves) then that's what is important.. :D To me anyways.. :)

RawHeaven
01-18-2009, 01:18 PM
Pking, thanks so much for sharing your viewpoint. You've touched on some things I didn't consider before. It's really about the character of a person and compatability isn't it? I wish we would get more guy's viewpoints on this and other hot topics. I love you ladies, but sometimes we can sound like broken records. Myself included. lol.





From a guy's viewpoint, most women I know are meat-eaters. For me it's a matter of respect. I know women who are meat eaters and have some beautiful traits about themselves. On the other hand, I know some ladies who are raw & vegans who so self-centered that I even hate to be around them. But I've met some beautiful raw/vegan ladies as well. As for dating an animal eater, I consider my food experience as a sort of a ministry or testimonial to my health. When we talk about food, I simply tell them the condition I was in before I went raw/vegan. Overweight, high blood/cholesterol levels, never exercise, etc. and how changing to raw/vegan has improved my health tremendously along with weight loss. I show them pictures of me pre-raw. I feel that by doing this ceases any preconceived thoughts they may have about raw/vegan people being "weird," "nature freaks," and other labels society may have put on us. The beauty I've found is that when you simply be yourself and be respectful, and don't try to "preach" raw/vegan diet on animal eaters, they in turn will respect your eating habits and may probably try it for themselves. So will I date an animal eater who seems to possess beautiful traits----YUP!!

RawHeaven
01-18-2009, 01:19 PM
Haaaaa! OOOH LA LA.

You crack me up.



Here's one. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDN9hZGjtzA)

pixelkatt
01-18-2009, 01:25 PM
Pking, thanks so much for sharing your viewpoint. You've touched on some things I didn't consider before. It's really about the character of a person and compatability isn't it? I wish we would get more guy's viewpoints on this and other hot topics. I love you ladies, but sometimes we can sound like broken records. Myself included. lol.

LOL.. :) I agree!! :D (Not that YOU sound like a broken record but that I would love to hear more men's views too.. and that we all can sound like broken records, lol.. except for me......... well, okay me too.. :p)

freshlight
01-18-2009, 01:34 PM
Here's one. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDN9hZGjtzA)

Thanks so much for posting this link.
My boy and me watched it and laughed a lot. What a lucky guy! I'd love to do all those things on a daily basis as well.
Who wants to buy me that house outside in the wilderness? :D
Is that amazing guy really a vegan or was it just a joke?
and if yes,-where have you read about him? I'm ever so curious.
Eva :)

freshlight
01-18-2009, 01:41 PM
I think the best thing he has ever said to me was after first going raw when I was telling him that I had no idea if I would stick to this but it felt right, that he thought that this time I WOULD stick to it and that he could see something in me and just knew that I would most likely be this way for the rest of my life.. He has NEVER said something like that about one of the quarky/wacky things I've been into (not that raw vegan is quarky/wacky to me but to some people it is).. THAT to me was worth more than anything.. I almost cried.. so as long as I have someone who loves me enough to care what I care about (even if they don't practice it for themselves) then that's what is important.. :D To me anyways.. :)

wonderful. I'm so happy for you! Your hubby sounds like a dream.
Perhaps I should start thinking differently as well. It's just that I didn't manage to get past the smell yet.......but you are right: each of us is different and we should keep giving the others a chance to learn new things as well.
I guess it's not the right time for it for me. But as soon as I fall in love with an "everything gobbler" I'll come here and let you know how it goes.....if you don't mind, that is :D

pixelkatt
01-18-2009, 01:53 PM
wonderful. I'm so happy for you! Your hubby sounds like a dream.
Perhaps I should start thinking differently as well. It's just that I didn't manage to get past the smell yet.......but you are right: each of us is different and we should keep giving the others a chance to learn new things as well.
I guess it's not the right time for it for me. But as soon as I fall in love with an "everything gobbler" I'll come here and let you know how it goes.....if you don't mind, that is :D

LOL.. :) Please do!! And don't feel bad if you want someone who has the same core values as you do.. that's not wrong!! But a story (I'll try to make it short).. when I first met my husband I was 22 (37 now so that was a LONG time ago) and was a cocktail waitress.. I vowed I would NEVER date someone that came in as a customer because the last time I did that, not only was he boring (like your meat eater) he had sinus issues and liked to talk about them (gross!!) AND he came in all the time and just sat there watching me!!! So in walks my husband one night with all his fellow workers who were obnoxios.. everyone but him.. and he sat there, drank his beer for a long time until they all left and then he worked up the courage to ask me out.. and I wanted to say yes so bad!! But I had my "policy" (I called it back then, lol), so at first I said no.. then changed my mind and said that I had to "think" about it, lol.. and then by the end of the night I reluctantly told him yes that I would go out with him.. and I MARRIED him!! I wonder now what would have happened in my life if I had stuck to my policy.. Boy would I have lost out.. :(

Revvell
01-18-2009, 03:12 PM
Oh Revvell.. What are we gonna do with you??? :D:p:D

Luffs me like you do. :)

Revvell (http://LetsTalkRaw.com)

Revvell
01-18-2009, 03:14 PM
Haaaaa! OOOH LA LA.

You crack me up.

Why's that? I'm confused.

Revvell
01-18-2009, 03:16 PM
Here's your sign! (http://rawkinradio.com/?s=Rocannon)


Thanks so much for posting this link.
My boy and me watched it and laughed a lot. What a lucky guy! I'd love to do all those things on a daily basis as well.
Who wants to buy me that house outside in the wilderness? :D
Is that amazing guy really a vegan or was it just a joke?
and if yes,-where have you read about him? I'm ever so curious.
Eva :)

pixelkatt
01-18-2009, 03:18 PM
Luffs me like you do. :)

Revvell (http://LetsTalkRaw.com)

I do, don't I!!!! :D I guess that's the only thing TO do.. :p:D

pixelkatt
01-18-2009, 03:19 PM
Here's your sign! (http://rawkinradio.com/?s=Rocannon)

Hmmm.. Maybe she should mssg him.. :D Is he single? Revvell you match maker you.. :p:D

Revvell
01-18-2009, 03:44 PM
Hmmm.. Maybe she should mssg him.. :D Is he single? Revvell you match maker you.. :p:D

well, he's not married.

freshlight
01-18-2009, 03:48 PM
Here's your sign! (http://rawkinradio.com/?s=Rocannon)

Thanks for that one :) Your RR is full of goodies, eh?

freshlight
01-18-2009, 03:50 PM
Hmmm.. Maybe she should mssg him.. :D Is he single? Revvell you match maker you.. :p:D

now don't get mixed up: it was Inca who was originally interested in vegan athelets. I bet she has already packed all her suitcases and is heading to the south :D
Keep us posted, dear Inca.
pixelkatt:Thanks for sharing the story about meeting your hubby,-it's so cute!

crazygirlmcc
01-18-2009, 03:53 PM
I think being with someone consists of loving them for who they are. I think it's shallow to assume someone is meaner than you b/c they want meat in their diet. Everybody has a choice. If you can't love a man because of what's in his lunch bag I don't know if you understand what UNcoditional love is

freshlight
01-18-2009, 03:58 PM
I think being with someone consists of loving them for who they are. I think it's shallow to assume someone is meaner than you b/c they want meat in their diet. Everybody has a choice. If you can't love a man because of what's in his lunch bag I don't know if you understand what UNcoditional love is

it's not about just food to me: it's about love to the nature, about oneness with the universe, it IS about unconditional love. Of course everybody has a choice. Each of us is going to or is dealing with the consequences of his own choices. You could just as well try to accept mine :D

pixelkatt
01-18-2009, 03:59 PM
now don't get mixed up: it was Inca who was originally interested in vegan athelets. I bet she has already packed all her suitcases and is heading to the south
Keep us posted, dear Inca.
pixelkatt:Thanks for sharing the story about meeting your hubby,-it's so cute!

LOL.. :D She might be!!! And, you're welcome.. I don't get to share it very often so thanks for 'listening'.. :):D:)

RawHeaven
01-18-2009, 04:13 PM
Why's that? I'm confused.

your link. was funny to me.

but oops maybe i'm offending someone.

i may have read into it differently.

nevermind.

Revvell
01-18-2009, 04:25 PM
... I don't know if you understand what UNcoditional love is

I don't agree with so-called unconditional love. There are always conditions on my love. You beat me, you lie to me, you cheat on me... I may love you but I wont like you and eventually, the love will stop.

Revvell (http://LetsTalkRaw.com)

Inca_faerie
01-18-2009, 04:34 PM
Here's one. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDN9hZGjtzA)

lolol!! well he is rugged, I'll give him that. A wee bit older than what I normally go for.:D

crazygirlmcc
01-18-2009, 04:37 PM
If you can't love a man because of what's in his lunch bag I don't know if you understand what UNcoditional love is When I said unconditional love I was saying it in reference to judging based on diet, not regarding getting beat by a man or cheated on or lied to.

Revvell
01-18-2009, 05:11 PM
When I said unconditional love I was saying it in reference to judging based on diet, not regarding getting beat by a man or cheated on or lied to.

So, there are conditions.

Revvell
01-18-2009, 05:12 PM
lolol!! well he is rugged, I'll give him that. A wee bit older than what I normally go for.:D

Wasn't suggesting you "go for" him. Just letting you know there are rugged vegan men out there. If there's one, there's plenty more.

Inca_faerie
01-18-2009, 06:41 PM
Wasn't suggesting you "go for" him. Just letting you know there are rugged vegan men out there. If there's one, there's plenty more.

Well darn I was getting warmed up to the idea.:D

Green_Woman
01-18-2009, 07:28 PM
Just letting you know there are rugged vegan men out there.

Amen that!!! Take MY man, for instance... only.... don't LITERALLY take him, or I'll have to get violent. :D

Revvell
01-18-2009, 07:56 PM
Well darn I was getting warmed up to the idea.:D

Go to YouTube and check out Zenkahuna's vids. Check out the women in the vids.

freshlight
01-19-2009, 09:15 AM
wow, look at this beautiful gal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u59BXXbaX4&feature=PlayList&p=5C6238EE66795EA8&playnext=1&index=6

freshlight
01-19-2009, 09:17 AM
Well darn I was getting warmed up to the idea.:D

you do always crack me up, Inca :D

RawHeaven
01-19-2009, 09:32 AM
wow, look at this beautiful gal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u59BXXbaX4&feature=PlayList&p=5C6238EE66795EA8&playnext=1&index=6


Wow, she's amazing. Made me tired looking at her doing those frog push ups.

I admire her deck and the natural setting she's working out in. We always see the videos with people working out on the beach - which is nice too. But love the woody, earthiness displayed here.

My dream space! ::::sigh::::

RawHeaven
01-19-2009, 09:37 AM
I probably shouldn't say this....but another point about the whole meat eating thing. Well you know -- we have meat. And some of us eat so to speak in particular amorous situations. It's all relative and how you look at it perhaps. Don't want to spell it out too blatantly in case the kids are reading. :cool:

Revvell
01-19-2009, 10:24 AM
That was done in Malibu, Ca.


Wow, she's amazing. Made me tired looking at her doing those frog push ups.

I admire her deck and the natural setting she's working out in. We always see the videos with people working out on the beach - which is nice too. But love the woody, earthiness displayed here.

My dream space! ::::sigh::::

RawHeaven
01-19-2009, 10:55 AM
Sweet...not too far away. I thought it might've been Oregon or WA state.


That was done in Malibu, Ca.

smiley
01-19-2009, 11:03 AM
When I met my soon-to-be husband, he was a SAD eater. He was very curious about my RAW diet and engaged me in many discussions. As a result, he turned into a cooked vegan eater within 4 months of meeting me. He is still cooked vegan and eats high raw for short phases (mostly during summer).

When I first turned raw, I went to all the local raw events to hopefully meet another raw fooder that I could date. I discovered quickly that there is more to a person than the food. I found raw fooders that were attractive to me but that there was no way that I could date them, for non-food reasons.

pixelkatt
01-19-2009, 01:00 PM
Just sent this to a friend who is a gym instructor.. she teaches BodyAttack and they do 4-5 MINUTES of pushups in that class.. She'll get a kick out of this!! :D


wow, look at this beautiful gal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u59BXXbaX4&feature=PlayList&p=5C6238EE66795EA8&playnext=1&index=6

freshlight
01-19-2009, 03:19 PM
I'm glad you liked it too :)
Hugs from Eva

Revvell
01-19-2009, 03:34 PM
Do you know Tara is 40 years old?

RawHeaven
01-19-2009, 03:43 PM
Do you know Tara is 40 years old?

The new 20 for raw foodists. :D

freshlight
01-19-2009, 03:54 PM
Do you know Tara is 40 years old?

Gosh, is there any beautiful person in this big wide world you don't know yet?
:D

freshlight
01-19-2009, 03:55 PM
The new 20 for raw foodists. :D

haha, so true!
but it stops after that :p

Revvell
01-19-2009, 05:01 PM
Gosh, is there any beautiful person in this big wide world you don't know yet?
:D

Not many but I'm sure I'm missing a few. I'll be seeing Tara and the Zenkahuna tonight right after our call (http://LetsTalkRaw.com).

freshlight
01-20-2009, 06:00 PM
I don't know any of them. Lucky you :) You deserve it too :D

Revvell
01-20-2009, 06:23 PM
Why thank you ma'am. Don't know if Zenkahuna and Tara will be making any more videos (at least any time soon) but they brought some new, fun stuff to class last night. Check these out: http://tinyurl.com/a9dqyt andwhat you can do with them: http://tinyurl.com/a6r2jo.

Oh, um, think we're hijacking the thread. Sorry. :(

EternityRider
01-20-2009, 09:00 PM
would you date a cooked meat eater?!

Depends. Is he rare, medium or well done?

(He runs out ducking)

Inca_faerie
01-20-2009, 09:23 PM
Depends. Is he rare, medium or well done?

(He runs out ducking)

I vote rare. Juicier that way. :D

pixelkatt
01-20-2009, 11:07 PM
No that's awesome!! :D I will tell my friend.. after I sent her the link she posted it on her facebook page.. Her comment was... "Good grief. I love push ups...but watching this just makes me hurt. Although, there are a couple I want to try :)", lol...


Do you know Tara is 40 years old?

pixelkatt
01-20-2009, 11:10 PM
Depends. Is he rare, medium or well done?
(He runs out ducking)

ROTFL! I have to vote rare too.. :D

Revvell
01-21-2009, 07:29 AM
Tara is rare. She's a well-trained gymnast and Zenkahuna (Rocannon) really has pushed her to do more than she ever thought she was capable of. What she really shows though is that if someone maintains a good working/playing regimen, they can keep their body strong and healthy.

I saw pics of her from when we first met maybe 10 years ago (maybe more) and we thought she looked awesome then! There's been an amazing transformation over the years.... for the better!


No that's awesome!! :D I will tell my friend.. after I sent her the link she posted it on her facebook page.. Her comment was... "Good grief. I love push ups...but watching this just makes me hurt. Although, there are a couple I want to try :)", lol...

pixelkatt
01-21-2009, 08:45 AM
I saw pics of her from when we first met maybe 10 years ago (maybe more) and we thought she looked awesome then! There's been an amazing transformation over the years.... for the better!

That's awesome! :) My friend (the gym instructor) is 39 and she looks great too (much better than me, lol).. she wasn't always that fit though.. At about 37 she started working out and it just progressed into something she loves.. She was pulled over a few months ago and the officer who gave her a ticket (yes the jerk, lol) looked at her license, looked at the two kids she had with her and didn't belive she was who she said she was.. He made her give him her phone number!!! That was a bad day for her.. but that's how much she has changed. In a way she inspired me to change.. she isn't raw vegan though.. but I love her anyway. :D

Revvell
01-21-2009, 08:58 AM
He made her give him her phone number!!!


He what???? He put a gun to her head?

pixelkatt
01-21-2009, 09:09 AM
He what???? He put a gun to her head?

Well he asked for it, lol.. :D I guess no one makes you do anything.. but I wonder what would have happened if she had refused!! :eek: All I know is she was in tears.. :( She was already having a bad day and that was just the think to put her over the edge..

rawererin
01-23-2009, 07:36 PM
I'm marrying a 'cooked food eater' in November, and he was a die hard ribs/steak/bacon... everything, until slowly he came around.
I never tried to push him into going raw or even vegetarian with me, I knew he couldn't lol! But now he won't even touch a salad at Applebee's if they put bacon bits on it!

cocoanib
01-23-2009, 10:42 PM
Yes.
My DH was not a vegetarian when we met, but he is now.
If I had to, I would prefer dating someone who is at least a vegetarian, but that would limit my dating possibilities.

ShelShel
01-24-2009, 06:39 PM
With all the really important things that we look for in another human being...how could you care what the person you are dating eats? :p

Things like: drug addiction, smoking, drinking in excess, violent tendencies, faithfulness, honor and integrity....Do they share your same dreams and expectations in their future dreams? Are you compatible in ALL ways? (emotionally, spiritually, physically????) Is that person attractive to you? Do you know how hard it is to find this individual?

Now if you stumble onto this beautiful complement to yourself in every way and he/she picks up a knife and fork to consume a steak...that?...that is going to be the deal breaker???? Wow. Not for me. A human being is a sum of their parts...all of them. Everyone is going to have flaws...some how eating meat seems like an acceptable one by other flaws people can have.

But that's just me. Being that I have been married to the most amazing man and he is truly my soul mate in ever sense of that statement...and he does eat meat...I can say this honestly...I don't care what he eats as long as he brings his gorgeous bod home to moi! :D

Also...I didn't find raw until 12 years into our marriage. What if he had chosen to overlook me because I ate meat. Not everyone comes to raw in their youth...seldom have I heard anyone really. So, how do we hold meat eating against them???

Love and let eat...that's my opinion, but as always...opinions are like...yes you can finish the rest of that thought. Everyone has them! :p

freshlight
01-27-2009, 09:12 AM
This is an interesting thread and I've learned a lot from it. Keeping an open mind is a good brain-training method :D
I'll start practising it more often from now on.