Detoxing with asthma, can't breath. Help!

[potteryroe]

OK, I've gone over the detox section again in Alissa's book, I've searched the blogs, I looked at other raw blogs, and now I just need to simply ask for help. Silly me :rolleyes:

I, as many of you have done as a newbe, am DETOXING!!! I had 1 skin eruption (thank you bentonite!), I'm gassy, but I blame that on the dogs...OK not really, only sometimes, I'm tired, constipated at times, my eyes burn, my other half says I now have bad breath :eek:...I'm mucousy, I kinda feel a song coming on...OK band members, remember this...My back is breaking, my belt's too tight, my hips are shake'n from left to right....OK, sorry, I got distracted. Anyway, you get the point. I can deal with all that stuff, however I'm finding that at night my asthma comes on with a vengence! (sp?) I've tried herbal teas and if I catch it early enough I can tough it out, I've tried hot water with lemon, but when I lay down to sleep, I'm gasping and that is scary when I'm trying to fall asleep, I mean, I want to wake up too. Inevitably I wind up using my Albuterol and the other day I even took a hit of my Advir. This was frustrating because, well, that kind of defeats the purpose, yes?

I don't know what to do to get off the asthma meds. Maybe I need to just meditate when that happens, I don't know. Please help. I'm looking forward to being asthma free, I know I will do it!

Roe

[Aleesha Sattva]

Well I kinda come from a different angle with this than others may but... why do you have to quit your med cold turkey? If your asthma is that bad, take the med when needed and as your body heals and cleanses, you'll find you need your meds less and less.

I love your song by the way... got it stuck in my head for the rest of the day now! LOL

[potteryroe]

Aleesha, I guess I will simply say....DUH!!! You know, I was so excited someone responded and had some advise for me that I read it out loud to my partner. She proceeded to do the happy dance, because that is exactly what she said! You've confirmed and validated her, "You don't have to do it all at once" theory and well, I just might not have a choice until my body heals. After all, I've been on asthma meds for almost 40 years, I thing it might take a little longer than 27 days to get off it, besides, I'm just a baby super-hero.
Roe

[michigan roman]

maybe some help at www.oilpulling.com

[Revvell]

What is it you are eating exactly?

I had severe asthma. Took drugs for awhile, found I didn't like them, stopped. When I had severe bouts ~ meaning 3 days, I sat up and sipped air for the 3 days... no drugs.

I'm getting from your posts here that you've got a lot of emotional stuff going on. Write it out or hire someone to assist. Start with your fears... what are you afraid of?

Just write down: "I'm afraid..." Then finish it with 10 or more different endings. Do that daily.

When I was with my teacher and would have an attack he would tell me that I could breathe any time I felt like it. Well, it took awhile but it became true. I am now asthma free.

You have dogs? They may be part of your problem. They were mine. Any dairy and/or wheat may also be a part of the problem (highly likely).

Healing and health is not JUST about food. Food will support and strengthen the immune system yet, the mental and emotional bodies must be supported as well.

Revvell (http://www.Revvellations.com)

[oceanluv]

revell, you always amaze me with your answers. (in a good way)

[potteryroe]

Revvell, thank you so much for your responce. (By the way I listen to you and Alissa's "Rawkin Radio" podcast from iTunes, LOVE IT!!!!

I'm not sure if you read my "Who are you?" post. I think you will enjoy it, not to mention a lot will make sense, or maybe that is what you're referring to "a lot going on :)

FYI: I'm new to blogging. I thought about whether or not to actually get into the details of what I eat because I know this will be a long entry. Then I remembered what this blogging thing is all about, helping and supporting each other. So, if what I'm experiencing and working out on my raw journey is assisted by all of the help I'm receiving here, OF COURSE I need to respond. Someone may be experiencing the same exact things that I am and I may be assisting them by my response.

I am currently on day 27 of my 100% raw lifestyle and day 4 of my Arise & Shine Cleanse. (When I said I wanted to detox, I wasn't kidding :) If any of you are familiar with this 28 day cleanse, I am starting on the "mild" phase (3 meals) so I don't totally through my body into shock and I can still safely preform the duties of my job.

What I eat:
Breakfast: I usually start my food day with a green smoothie. What ever leafy green I have, water, and 2 or 3 fresh fruit, usually something like, banana, orange, apple, pineapple, mango, papaya, you get the picture. I've been adding E3 or Spirulina the past few days.

Lunch: Usually a salad containing red leaf lettuce, cabbage, kale, chard, turnip greens, etc. mung and alfalfa sprouts, sometimes carrots and zucchini, put through the spiral slicer like pasta, it adds a nice texture. I've been using Natalia Rose's recipe from The Raw Food Detox Diet called "Liquid Gold Elixir" (lemon, garlic, ginger, braggs, raw honey or agave, and olive oil) YUM!!!! I just discovered raw Chocolatl (this is not a typo) treats with goji berries. I might have 1 or 2 pieces of that, it's very rich, but not often. Sometimes a simple salad and Alissa's Butternut Squash soup. (YUMMIE!!!!)

Dinner: I might have a small simple salad with Cherie Calbom's "Energy Soup" recipe. (Juice carrots, celery, cucumber, lemon, parsley, and gingerroot, throw the juice into the Vita-Mix with an avocado and viola! Deliciousness!

Sometimes I will have Alissa's Nori rolls, you know the one's with the cauliflower for rice...OH MY GOSH!!!!!

Before I started the cleanse I was eating Butternut squash burgers with jicama fries, avocados, lots of dates, either rolled with coconut or desserts, and lots of flax crackers in all different flavors.

I know what it's like to sip air and I give you credit...it ain't easy to tough that one out!

I love the journaling idea, I have been doing it for years, however, never the "I'm afraid...." I like it, I'm going to do it.

You are spot on, "Healing and health is not JUST about food." I started talking to someone about everything that's been going on about a week or two ago. You ARE good!

As a matter of fact, we do have dogs, 3 dogs and 1 cat. I never had past problems with dogs, h-o-w-e-v-e-r I did have problems with cats. Hmmmm?

When I went raw I went cold turkey and 100% so I have NOT been eating dairy or wheat, my body very well may be trying to rid itself of it though.

So that's it. If anyone wants to chime in or if this helps you...Blessings
Roe

[Revvell]

From what you're eating, food doesn't seem to be the problem. Sounds as though you are doing quite well there and I commend you!

Cats.... could very well be, sorry to say BUT, if you build your immune system as you are, that may eliminate that problem.

No, I've not read the "who you are" post, just this one and thanks for listening to RawkinRadio (http://RawkinRadio.com). It's come so far since Alissa and I started it about 2 years ago! So many interview, so many people I got to know...

Understand something about natural healing ~ things always get worse before they get better. That's why people love the allopathic path ~ they don't have to experience themselves.

You want to detox? No drugs. The longer you continue to use them, the longer the path. consider this ~ how about if you allowed yourself to experience the attack fully... really go into it as a meditation? (Understand, it may be a 3-day mediation). What if, during the attack you tell yourself... "I can breathe, any time I want to". What if your body/mind begins to believe it? Also, google "retracing"... that may also be what you're doing.

Answer this question: Who would you be without the asthma?
We create (unconsciously) many dis-eases because of fear of life. Once we find out what it is we are afraid of, we don't need the disease anymore.

It was weird for me to see the cycle I was creating. I wanted to do so many things yet, couldn't because of the asthma and found out I was afraid to do those things so, created the asthma so I couldn't do them. Sheesh!

Right now I'm working on a new project. What if it fails? What if it doesn't? Can I stand it either way? See, now, I can address the fears and not cover it with asthma... and take my attention from the project.

Don't know if that makes sense yet... :)

Oh! btw, I was 27 when I started my healing journey. Welcome.

[freshlight]

Hey Roe, I would recommend a colon cleanse (enema). If you are not familiar with it, read N. Walker's *Colon health*, which is an excellent book.
You can do it yourself,-it doesn't cost anything and accelerates the detox dramatically.
Get well soon and listen to Revvell ;) she is so right about the connection between having fears and not being able to breathe!
Take care, Eva

[Revvell]

Hey Roe, I would recommend a colon cleanse (enema). If you are not familiar with it, read N. Walker's *Colon health*, which is an excellent book.
You can do it yourself,-it doesn't cost anything and accelerates the detox dramatically.


Ahhh, good advice. Don't remember if I did that then but should have since N. Walker is one of my favorite teachers. :)

[Coolexplosion]

I also had asthma back in the day, the cleansing works wonders. However, because you are pretty much on 100% raw food AND cleansing, your cleansing reactions will be severe. On the plus side, all of those bad things are now exiting your system, especially with the bad breath. Your tongue is a sign of what is going on in your intestines so, feel glad you won't have to deal with the repercussions of a bad lifestyle later on (cancer, tumors, Alzheimer's, etc.) and are instead dealing with all of it now. Just get through it and keep at it, your body will thank you in the end, mine did.

[Sugar Snap Pea]

Yeah! What Aleesha said! :cool: Also take a look at what Louise Hay has to say in her book, 'You Can Heal Your Life'.

[Amberly]

You do pottery? Your name is Roe? You have asthma? Raw?

My boyfriend is a pottery professor. Named Rowe. Has asthma. Mostly raw.


Had to rub my eyes a minute. :)



That may not be your name, I guess, but I didn't read all of it.

[potteryroe]

You do pottery? Your name is Roe? You have asthma? Raw?

My boyfriend is a pottery professor. Named Rowe. Has asthma. Mostly raw.


Had to rub my eyes a minute. :)



That may not be your name, I guess, but I didn't read all of it.
LOL!! What a trip! Hello Amberly, Yes, pottery is one of my passions, but unfortunately not my day job. My name is Rosalie but people usually call me Roe. I obviously, up until now, have asthma, but I won't for long and yes, I am 100% raw.
Roe

[potteryroe]

Revvell, WOW!! You have really given me some "nuggets" to work with and I WILL! I am very committed to this. I've very interested in the N. Walker's *Colon health* book and will look for it tomorrow (my day off). I have given my self two enemas since I started the Arise & shine cleanse and I would be interested to see what N. Walker's approach is. (No pun intended)

Looks like I have some journaling to do and take a good, hard look inside, and get really in there. Could be scary, but I"M READY. (My humor wants to say, "Good God, look where I work, I'm surrounded by fear. I should be ready to hit it head on.) However, when It's all about you (me) it's a whole different ball game, I know.

Thank you, Blessings,
Roe

[Revvell]

Congratulations. I love your attitude.

Revvell (http://www.Revvellations.com/shopping)


Revvell, WOW!! You have really given me some "nuggets" to work with and I WILL! I am very committed to this. I've very interested in the N. Walker's *Colon health* book and will look for it tomorrow (my day off). I have given my self two enemas since I started the Arise & shine cleanse and I would be interested to see what N. Walker's approach is. (No pun intended)

Looks like I have some journaling to do and take a good, hard look inside, and get really in there. Could be scary, but I"M READY. (My humor wants to say, "Good God, look where I work, I'm surrounded by fear. I should be ready to hit it head on.) However, when It's all about you (me) it's a whole different ball game, I know.

Thank you, Blessings,
Roe

[freshlight]

love reading your posts, roe. you are full of great energy! Keep up the good work :)

[shashibala]

Hi! I had asthma when I started this raw journey. It has gone away for the most part. I have used my inhaler only once since going raw a year ago. I still react to certain things. (bleach, perfumes, chemical cleansers.)
I also notice that my breathing suffers if I eat too much bottled oil. I theorize that when my liver is over taxed with fats, my body tries to detox through the lungs. Does the dust from the clay bother you? It can be a lung irritant.
I have found that drinking lots of water with lemon and a touch of cayenne helps my breathing stay clear.
I think that the fear of not being able to breathe makes asthma worse. For this reason, I think you should use your medication when you feel that you really need it. I doesn't help to live in fear. You will probably need the medication less and less.
Best wishes to you!

[potteryroe]

Hi! I had asthma when I started this raw journey. It has gone away for the most part. I have used my inhaler only once since going raw a year ago. I still react to certain things. (bleach, perfumes, chemical cleansers.)
I also notice that my breathing suffers if I eat too much bottled oil. I theorize that when my liver is over taxed with fats, my body tries to detox through the lungs. Does the dust from the clay bother you? It can be a lung irritant.
I have found that drinking lots of water with lemon and a touch of cayenne helps my breathing stay clear.
I think that the fear of not being able to breathe makes asthma worse. For this reason, I think you should use your medication when you feel that you really need it. I doesn't help to live in fear. You will probably need the medication less and less.
Best wishes to you!
Off to work so I can't respond right now in detail :( For now I wanted to say thank you. Now the clay dust doesn't bother me. My throwing area is really clean, I make sure for that very reason, plus I'm kinda'little anal that way. Get back to you all later.

Blessings,
Roe

[beckx]

Answer this question: Who would you be without the asthma?
We create (unconsciously) many dis-eases because of fear of life. Once we find out what it is we are afraid of, we don't need the disease anymore.

wow, revvell... this is exactly what i needed to hear, completely unrelated to asthma. i was wondering why i was looking at an asthma thread when i have nothing to add on the subject.

thank you!

[Revvell]

You're welcome. It's a questions I ask myself at all levels. Who would I be if I stopped procrastinating... if I did this, dropped that... etc. Interesting prospects there.


wow, revvell... this is exactly what i needed to hear, completely unrelated to asthma. i was wondering why i was looking at an asthma thread when i have nothing to add on the subject.

thank you!

[potteryroe]

Hi everyone, I haven't forgotten you all. In fact, it's been just the opposite, I've been thinking, "Oh, I've got to give them an update on the asthma and detoxing, etc..." Such cool stuff has happened!

BUT...I've been working doubles (16hr shifts) all week and I'm exhausted right now, so I will have to tell you later. I can't keep my eyes open. Just wanted to let you know I'm still here, I'm still 100% raw, I think today is day 50. (Too tired to figure it out.) AND...I'm still loving it.

I hope you all are doing well.

Talk to you soon, and oh yeah...thank you for being here.
Roe

[potteryroe]

OK, been super busy, in a good way.

First I want to tell you that shortly after bringing up "detoxing w/ asthma" and getting all of your wonderful support and suggestions, we went to San Fransisco (SF) to see the movie documentary, "The Beautiful Truth". OH MY GOSH!!! A must see. Go on line, see if it's available in your area.

The second reason we went to SF was to go to Cafe Gratitude. YUMMIE!!! Once again, if you're in the area, and I believe they have several locations - look it up on line, you must go. You're not just feeding your belly, you're feeding your soul! The restaurant is based on a board game the owners designed, "The Abounding River". When you go to the restaurant you are living the game and eating live food to boot! It's a blast, I highly recommend it. Yes, we purchased the game :)

And Finally, the asthma update. After a fun filled day of movie and good eats, we stayed with family who lived near by and...I had a cocktail, (I don't drink very often and hadn't at all since going raw) immediately I felt tightness in my chest and throat, and of course the classic itchy chin. I thought, "OH NO! I just had been sharing with family how I hadn't had problems with my asthma in a few weeks. They were firing the typical raw vegan questions at me and I was bouncing back answers to them filled with love. I eventually excussed myself as I became exhausted not only from hiding my sipping air, but the alcohol (which was literally a few sips) was knocking my out.

As I laid in bed, Revvalls words rung loud in my head. "Who would you be without your asthma?" and "What are you afraid of?" OH MY GOSH!!! These words repeated in my mind over and over like a montra until the answere flooded in. The visual was like I was standing at the waters edge when a giant wave hit me, knocking me over then I stood up at the shore line, soaking wet, looking out at the ocean now visible to me because the fog has been lifted. I couldn't deny the answer.

The whole time I was talking to my aunt and uncle, who were very curious about "the lifestyle", answering the questions yet not trying to convert them, they wanted to know more and more, even though in my short time of living this way, I've read about 8 books and researched lots on line, not to mention I religously listen to Rawkin radio and other podcasts. I had feelings creeping in and taking over such as;

"Oh listen to the newbee, like she knows what she's talking about. Who are you to be telling them, you just started living this way and you think you should be answering these questions. You haven't LIVED the lifestyle LONG ENOUGH! You don't know nearly as much as the "raw food gurus". Who are YOU! You are not worthy of answering these questions and talking about this subject as any kind of authority. You are a want-a-be. You are unworthy. You're asthma isn't getting better, it has control over you, not you over the asthma. It can appear when ever it wants, see here it comes. Now I'm going to keep you away because you can't fall asleep not breathing, you might not wake up!"

WOW! I didn't expect that, but I didn't have much of a choice now did I. If a funny thing when you ask for the truth and wait for the answer instead of distracting yourself so you won't hear it. Our inner talk can be so horrible and influential. Hmm, how many of us do that? (Just a note, my self talk is usually positive, well, for the most part.)

So now that I got all of that, what was I going to do with it? Well, I know that was just my ego striving to survive and to prove itself right but my spirit wasn't buying it. No way, Jose. As soon as I heard it, I knew it was baloney! I immediately changed my inner talk and believed it, then came some more of Revvell's words,"You can choose to breath at anytime." so I did. I chose to b-r-e-a-t-h. It took a few minutes but the tightness began to open up, along with my through, my chin stopped itching, and the big deep pulls for air became normal once again. I was happy. I closed my eyes and had a wonderful nights sleep.

Since this episode, I've had 2 maybe 3 asthma attacks but were dismissed pretty quickly. One of them was allergy related.

Thank you Revvell, mission accomplished, I do do my homework :) and will use it in the future too.