My Doc says I HAVE to eat meat!!!!

[Anndiamond]

I have had trouble with my thyroid and adrenals this year and found out these problems just in May. I have suffered my whole life with extreme fatigue and bad candida.

When i started doctors diet, with meat twice a day, i lost lots of weight without exercising at all. But, i got to a point where i thought surely all this meat is not good for me! and cooking food so much? not good either........so i started investigating raw diet......and was hooked......


But, my doctor (famous hormone specialist in London - not a GP) said its absolutely neccessary for me to eat meat as the fat from the meat stimulates my growth hormones and helps my adrenals to work and without the meat, I wont feel well.

i have to admit that since i started raw diet about 2 months ago, i have gained the weight back on despite following Raw and candida diet.

I am devastated and very torn about this as she appears right, I do need the fat from the meat (and its fat i cant get from nuts or anything else) but i just dont want to be a full on meat eater again!! I know we arent supposed to talk about meat on here but i do need some advice please!

Does anyone out there have any advice for me or know how to treat adrenal fatigue with any other way?

Anyone suffer from same condition as me??

Thank you!!

anna

[Raw Angel Mom]

Stay away from soya bean or any soya base product. It somehow affect the gland system in a negative way.

It is typical for a doctor, homeopath, accupunturist etc.. to promote cook food or meat because of the way they got their education at school. You need to find someone that do raw food on top of his/her profession for they are open mind. My say, for you would be to listen what resonnate with you. If this can bring you peace of mind, give a try with the meat. I can promise you that you will feel absolutely drain out because of the enormous amount of energy that it will take to digest the meat.

I highly recommend to you to incorporate more greens such kale, spinach, dandelion. It is rich in chlorophyle and it does so much miracle for your body. If you can bare with that, do wheat grass ( make sure this is good quality, no mold). Start with only one once and you can mix with apple juice etc...

When our gland start to run low, we are low in mineral. Greens are rich in minerals, protein, calcium, etc..... You can consider to take ANGSTROM size mineral (this is only what our body can absorb most supplement they aren't angstrom size and it leads to deposit i your system, just google angstrom size mineral, you will find many company. I like water oz for it is the most economical and good quality. I can shine a laser beam in it and i won't see any reflection. This is a trick to find out if this is really angstrom size. David Wolfe sells other kind but this is very expensive and it is good quality.

Excess of fat consumption promote Candida as per Dr. Graham. Who is also a live food athlete eating raw food in a specific way.

I am no doctor, so i recommend to you to do research and really learn to trust your gut feeling. It isn't obvious at first but the more you try, the better you will be with this.

Best wishes!

[Anndiamond]

Thank you Angel Mom great advice!

i do green juices in the morning with kale etc - am loving those and wont give it up thats for sure!

[ShantiLove]

I would recomend finding a good homeopath, as I know there are homeopathic remedies that can help balance the different glans. Im in scandianvia and there is a company here who makes a homeopatic combination remedy that fits you symptoms. Im sure that you could find somthing simelar in the UK :)

There is a guy that I have heard recomended by others, and who wrote a book about adrenal fatigue http://www.adrenalfatigue.org/ he recomends vitamines, minerals and other suppliments, diet, exercise among other things. Maby he is worth checking out.

[Vivafree2]

Don;t have an advice - i suffer from inbalances and still can not find right formula how to loose weight, keep my thyroid happy and have enough potein and iron to keep moving, it is a struggle for me too. I guess we still need to experiment. I do not want to eat meat.

[rawstrength]

I've heard amazing stories of thyroid and adrenal recovery on diets where raw extra virgin coconut oil was eaten as the only source of fat for a while. Coconut oil is very similar to animal fat; both are saturated. Do some research on coconut oil, it may be worthwhile for you to consider.
Avoid soy, wheat, and sugary foods.
Greens are good. Veganforlife aka Lucy has healed her thyroid by going raw and drinking lots of green smoothies with sea veggies.
Wishing you the best. No one should have to eat meat, it is cruel and unnatural both to people and animals. I hope you find a diet that works for you, body, mind and soul.

[Ilse W.]

Dump the doctor. Doctors know nothing as far as I am concerned. Read anything you can find on Natural Hygiene. Find someone who can supervise an extended fast. I'm on day 18 of an extended fast and have lost 15 pounds in that time. I'm drinking about a quart of fresh juice every day and lots of water. Soon now I will switch to only water for a few weeks. Read Dr. Shelton's book on fasting or any one of the fasting books on www.soilandhealth.org beefore you start. That's my advise.

[RaisingAlex]

Two words: Sea Veggies.

[freshlight]

that's exactly what my doc said as well,-just don't listen to them. Nobody in their right mind would recommend to eat animals because it's not good for any of us.

Eat as many green veggies as you can and listen to your inner voice which will point you in the right direction--> jmho :)
Get well soon! and take care,

Eva

[Veganforlife]

Pffffffttttttttttt! That doctor is nuts! Sorry, but I am living proof that one does NOT need meat as it has not been a part of my diet for over 30 years! AND eating 100% raw healed two life debilitating illnesses. One - migraines (had all my life) and two - a non-functioning thyroid.

Time to get eating 100% raw and the heck with doctors. They are NOT nutritionists.

Remember that.

And, um, just WHAT fat is this you speak of that comes ONLY from animals. Artery clogging, heart stopping, life shortening?

[Anndiamond]

I would recomend finding a good homeopath, as I know there are homeopathic remedies that can help balance the different glans. Im in scandianvia and there is a company here who makes a homeopatic combination remedy that fits you symptoms. Im sure that you could find somthing simelar in the UK :)

There is a guy that I have heard recomended by others, and who wrote a book about adrenal fatigue http://www.adrenalfatigue.org/ he recomends vitamines, minerals and other suppliments, diet, exercise among other things. Maby he is worth checking out.

Thank you Shanti love looking on the website now so grateful i have found it!!

[JennaBoBenna]

Doctors may have a lot of knowledge when it comes to the human body, diseases, diagnosing, etc....but unfortunately, they know nothing about how food affects the body. Thumbs down!

[HolyGuacamole]

Yeah, to heck with that.

My naturopathic doctor told me something similar when my thyroid (and adrenals) crashed. Eat high protein and "basically no carbs," said he. "Pfft," said I, ate raw, and healed myself.

I second the coconut oil and sea greens suggestions. Keep experimenting until you find what works for you. :)

[RawHeaven]

Listen to your body.

Could be false weight you're losing when you eat the meat.

In other words, are you truly healing your adrenals when you consume the meat or is it masking something else? A doctor isn't going to understand this necessarily unless they're open to alternative healing.

I second all of the advice - go to a medically trained doctor or an osteopath who understands nutrition & raw foods and can monitor you. The med doctor might be hard to find because they're just starting to teach nutrition in some (US) med schools now. I don't know about in Great Britain. I lucked out that my surgeons understood nutrition when I was healing, so they do exist.

You may also get worse before you get better...as your body heals.

I'll just add to the recommendation list: Try acupuncture as well - It rocks. I had really messed up adrenal glands after my 10 or so operations. Raw foods, juice fasting, water fasting and acupuncture healed me 100%. :)

Wishing you the very best.

[cara4art]

Phooey!!! Like nearly everyone else says here, there are other ways to deal with this. Raw will do so much more for you than eating meat ever could. What are these doctors thinking when they advise high-meat diets with little to no carbs of any sort - sheesh! For specific help with adrenal and liver issues, traditional Chinese herbs can be enormously helpful as one other person here said, along with keeping a high-greens intake(major pumped-up green smoothies to the rescue here)and adding higher-protein superfoods like chia seeds, hemp protein, etc. What a lot of people don't know out there is that the protein in greens and these foods, although technically not high in grams, is MUCH more easily usable by the body, and this indeed will help with the adrenals. Stopping bad habits like coffee, sugar, refined carbos, too much stressful activity all really help too. Hopefully you are off all this stuff already - a really good start. I'm taking a patent liver and kidney yin tonic myself to address several different things, in which the adrenals are implicated. Good stuff, and pretty inexpensive too. It's one of my few supplements, as I can take this over the long haul as it is not for acute situations. For that one needs a stronger form of herbal formula.
RUN away from that doctor, and find someone who is sympathetic to vegetarians esp. raw ones to work with for specific formulas that can help move things along while you are improving your diet. Good luck with this.

[jacsam]

Second opinions are always good (and be very choosie when you decide who that second opinion will come from). Good Luck!!!

[Pking]

I have to agree with the others about the meat issue. You simply don't need it. I'm no nutritionist but I do know that pretty much all animal products contains a good dose of cholesterol. And that's something you definitely don't need! The body makes its own cholesterol only when it needs it, so eating animal products (especially twice a day) will dump a ton of unnecessary cholesterol in your body. Meat also contains a high salt value to preserve the meat for shipping to stores. Extra cholesterol plus excessive salt could make you a prime candidate for high blood pressure & high cholesterol. Raw veggies & fruits contains neither cholesterol nor high salt. Your body is basically designed to digest and draw it's nourishment primarily from fruits, veggies, grains, nuts/seeds and legumes. How in the world most doctors can't see this and tell their patients to eat meat or "take this medicine" is truly shocking. Could it be a money thing??

Also, implement some exercise into your life if you haven't already. Exercise plus eating a daily healthy diet can help reverse a ton of ailments.

[kaybee]

Siberian GINSENG aka eleuthero is an adrenal support supplement/adaptogen. bastyr university uses the solid extract put out by wise woman (women?) herbals and i have had good luck with this. other adaptogens may help as well. google adaptogens. also, GAIA puts out a good line of stuff like this incluiding a thyroid formula (vegan). bastyr, the alternative medicine medical school near seattle uses the gaia brands, so i trust they are good brands. thyroid and adrenal problems are often linked/play off of one another and i have found stress reduction and a REGULAR early bedtime help the most. also bladderwrack, a brown seaweed also known as rockweed, supposedly has shown similar effects to treatement with thyroid hormone when about 5 g a day are used.

[AutumnBreezColordLeavz]

Up your quantity of coconuts- Young thai coconuts! Coconut Oil!

This is a medium chained fat that will do your thyroid and adrenal a lot of good. Trust me on this, I was born with non functioning thyroid, never has and never will work. Meds all my life! I have lost 10 lbs since November 14th- 4 weeks! No exercise, all raw food choices that have brought me this far. Last year I did the Body for Life program- 12 weeks and lost only 10. Muscle weight was part of my gain, however, I still had cravings and still had to continue to exercise HARD in order to loose just a little. I prefer to do raw food and exercise because I want to, not because I must. I am busy in life and don't always have time to do a workout.

Research it for yourself, you will find lots of benefits of coconut oil without all the animal fat.

[rawstrength]

Please remember that many of the conditions modern humans suffer from is a result of a build up of toxins, pesticides, herbicides, etc. When we eat higher up on the food chain (i.e. eating meat) we get a much larger dose of toxins. Most of these toxins are tucked away in the fat of animals. So that animal fat that will supposedly "cure you" may in fact make you sicker.

[RawHeaven]

Please remember that many of the conditions modern humans suffer from is a result of a build up of toxins, pesticides, herbicides, etc. When we eat higher up on the food chain (i.e. eating meat) we get a much larger dose of toxins. Most of these toxins are tucked away in the fat of animals. So that animal fat that will supposedly "cure you" may in fact make you sicker.

I think you hit the nail on the head.

[Crazy Healer Lady]

Four words:

READ THE CHINA STUDY

and buy a copy for your doctor.

Meat is not good for you. In fact, meat is killing millions of people around the world, and a meat-based diet is letting children all over the world starve. All those acres of field for cows and acres of grain could be used to feed us and all the other nations.

Oh dear, I almost went off on a huge tangent there. Caught myself just in time ;)

[curlygirl82]

Can't say that I have any specific recommendations for you, but just wanted to pipe in my support. Raw can work miracles, I'm sure of it - it's the way we're designed to eat, I'm more and more convinced of it.
You can do this, and we'll all be here to help.

I look forward to hearing about your amazing recovery!! Prove them wrong! :D

[Anndiamond]

I would recomend finding a good homeopath, as I know there are homeopathic remedies that can help balance the different glans. Im in scandianvia and there is a company here who makes a homeopatic combination remedy that fits you symptoms. Im sure that you could find somthing simelar in the UK :)

There is a guy that I have heard recomended by others, and who wrote a book about adrenal fatigue http://www.adrenalfatigue.org/ he recomends vitamines, minerals and other suppliments, diet, exercise among other things. Maby he is worth checking out.

Have ordered the book just then!!

[Anndiamond]

Up your quantity of coconuts- Young thai coconuts! Coconut Oil!

This is a medium chained fat that will do your thyroid and adrenal a lot of good. Trust me on this, I was born with non functioning thyroid, never has and never will work. Meds all my life! I have lost 10 lbs since November 14th- 4 weeks! No exercise, all raw food choices that have brought me this far. Last year I did the Body for Life program- 12 weeks and lost only 10. Muscle weight was part of my gain, however, I still had cravings and still had to continue to exercise HARD in order to loose just a little. I prefer to do raw food and exercise because I want to, not because I must. I am busy in life and don't always have time to do a workout.

Research it for yourself, you will find lots of benefits of coconut oil without all the animal fat.

Hi! how much coconut oil a day do you take? thank you!

[Anndiamond]

Can't say that I have any specific recommendations for you, but just wanted to pipe in my support. Raw can work miracles, I'm sure of it - it's the way we're designed to eat, I'm more and more convinced of it.
You can do this, and we'll all be here to help.

I look forward to hearing about your amazing recovery!! Prove them wrong! :D

awwww thank you!! you guys are lovely!