So Upset - Animal Torture

[Crazy Healer Lady]

I don't know if I put this in the right spot, but I found out something horrible yesterday that has absolutely disgusted me.

My boyfriend's best friend moved out to our city from Vancouver for a job. He's commuting to work with my bf because he can't drive, and there are no buses going that way. He has no other friends or family out here.

I found out yesterday that at his old job, he fed a seagull draino. I flipped. He was so proud of it, and proceeded to tell me all of the horrible things they did to seagulls and other animals at his old job, literally torture. It was rewarded with $$ by the employer. I was literally sick. I am so angry.

There is one good thing about this. He told me. And I'm telling the police.

The problem is, I still have to look at this guy. I don't want him in my house anymore. I told my bf that is the first sign of a murderer, someone who gets joy out of harming animals. He's blocking it out. It upsets him greatly, but he feels he can't do anything. I can't even look at this guy anymore.

UGH!!! I'm so upset!! I know it won't go over well that I don't want him in the house, and I don't want to even be near him. I guess my bf just has to deal with it.

Any advice????

[Raw Angel Mom]

I hear you!

As hard as it cans be, i found the best way to help the animals is to help the human to open their heart and do my best of not getting upset or angry but to educate them slowly with respect of their believes. The animals don't have a voice and if we get upset, we are fuelling their ego which lead to more animal suffering. I pray for them and pray for all animals to be safe from any uncessary suffering.

Thank you for caring!

[Raene]

Ugh. Another sad animal cruelty story. I don't have advice. I just posted an animal cruelty post on my blog and it's all just so sad. I don't understand people.

The psychology part of me believes that people were not nurtured enough as children (especially boys, since they are often told not to cry, not to be upset, and not to *feel* anything). Without being nurtured themselves and taught compassion that way, of course they will have no compassion for others. In this way, I do not feel that it is your friend's fault that he is harming others. It is society's fault. Without counseling he may never realize that the problems actually lie within himself and his inner child.

Is that too deep? Sorry. But anyway, positive thoughts that the seagull is now resting peacefully and has moved on to a better place.

[Crazy Healer Lady]

No, it's not too deep. You both are absolutely right. You really have to feel sorry for these people. How horrible can your life be that you have to make animals feel pain for your own joy? I'm still so upset, though. I don't even want him near me. If he can do that to an animal, what would he do to a child?

[Raene]

No, it's not too deep. You both are absolutely right. You really have to feel sorry for these people. How horrible can your life be that you have to make animals feel pain for your own joy? I'm still so upset, though. I don't even want him near me. If he can do that to an animal, what would he do to a child?

Ahh, yes, the reason I left my daughter's father. He killed our hamster b/c he couldn't take the noise. Yikes. I was two months pregnant and knew I had to get away fast.

[rawstrength]

cruelty to animals = cruelty to humans
Get away from this guy, fast, and don't let your bf near him either. I don't think you should try to help him. He needs professional help.

[oai]

omg. that dude would be out of my place so fast! :mad: there's understanding and sympathy for a fellow human who has gone astray. tolerating him would be a form of accepting his behavior.

so have him out! when he changes & understands his past actions, then your door is always open. ;)

[freshlight]

amazing how some people tick. I would feel the same way about that guy. how weird.
Perhaps we should stand up to our feelings and talk about them: the more vegans start talking, the more "normal" it will become to treat animals with love.

raene: I was brought up the way you described: not allowed to show my feelings or cry but I did always LOVE animals......so it's not always that easy.

we don't need to be taught everything,imho-certain things go without saying. Take care,

Eva

[RawHeaven]

There is one good thing about this. He told me. And I'm telling the police.

I would be upset too and I'm glad you reported it. When you're ready forgive him and send him some light. One of the hardest things to do is to send someone love who is capable of something like this. Forgiving him will free up your angst and the anger - & take this atrocious energy out of your space. It's gotcha around the 3rd & 4th chakras - and it's why you were feeling heart sick and physically sick.

He may even receive your higher thoughts and begin to shift at some point in his life. But let it go out of your space and don't try to heal him. Do some space clearing in your house too if you haven't already. I'm just reminding you of what you already know CHL. ;)

[RawHeaven]

Maui Butterly who used to post here often shared this stage meditation. I've used it and it works.

CHL it may help shift the energy.

Much peace,

Crystal


Stage Meditation (Clearing Chords, Practicing Forgiveness)

Place a few granules of sea salt in a favorite ritual bowl filled with pure, blessed water. You can bless the water yourself with any prayer of your choice. Feel free to make one up.

Get into a comfortable environment, relax your body and bring your bowl.

Do the following meditation:


1. See yourself filled with infinite love and light; your entire body from head to toe; don’t forget to fill up your aura too
2. Create a stage in your mind’s eye in front of and below you
3. Invite the person (or thought) to the stage
4. Say, “I forgive you. Please forgive me.”
5. See the infinite light of love pour into and over the person and onto the stage
6. Cut the aka. Put one hand (preferably your dominant hand) above and slightly in front of your head, with your other hand down at your side. Use your hands and visualization to bunch together all of the chords extending from the front of your body to the other person. Hold them in your lower hand in front of your solar plexus, also known as the 3rd chakra, where you’re stomach is located. Then use a karate chop motion with your top hand (you can imagine it a sharp like a knife) to cut the chords. Make three cuts and then toss the chords into the bowl of saltwater. Next visualize your back in front of you, and repeat the process on your imagined back to cut the chords extending from your back. Again, toss the bundle of cut chords into the saltwater.

7. Say, “I love you. Thank you”. Release the person with love and light.

8. Toss your bowl of salt water in your garden, back yard, ocean or anywhere it will regenerate in soil to completely release the this recycled energy in a positive way back to the Universe. If you don’t have a garden, just visualize it going back to the Universe and use whatever method you choose to dispose of the water.

Negative thoughts or emotions keep us from seeing the divine within ourselves and others. In addition to clearing yourself of any negative energy from the other person, cutting the aka allows you to release the person from whom you are disconnecting from your own perceptions. If you choose to create a new connection, it will be healthier because you have left them filled with love and light.

Anytime you have a negative thought about someone, you can say to yourself “I love you. I’m sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you.” Then cut the chord!

[Crazy Healer Lady]

Thank you :) I needed a reminder

I phoned Crimestoppers, and they are investigating the fishplant where he worked. We'll see what happens next

[ViolinCyndee]

OMG that is so terrible! I wouldn't be able to deal at all, and he would not be allowed in my house, or even in my sight. :mad:

[RawHeaven]

Thank you :) I needed a reminder

I phoned Crimestoppers, and they are investigating the fishplant where he worked. We'll see what happens next

You're very welcome. I have been in similar predicaments, but I would sit in the energy for a long time until I finally let it go. Some things we just keep repeating. :)

I think you've gotten the ball rolling. Do you have an animal cruelty assn you can contact as well? Or is crimestoppers the same thing?

[Crazy Healer Lady]

Just Crimestoppers, but they work with the animal cruelty organizations and the police as well.

I told the bf that I don't want him in my home, or in my space, until he agrees to get mental help. My bf agrees that he is mentally unstable, and says that he probably doesn't associate the seagull's death with pain. That may or may not be the case. Either way, the man definitely needs healing, but not by me. I can't be in the situation right now. I can only work on myself and help others help him.

[RawHeaven]

Just Crimestoppers, but they work with the animal cruelty organizations and the police as well.



That's awesome.

It sounds like you're really grounded now with what happened and I'm glad your bf is on the same page - supporting your decision.

[RawSun]

Very sad indeed.

Another perspective. My father in-law used to work in a slaughter house. It's what he did for a living, times were tough, small farming community, and that is the job he ended up in - for years. This was before I knew him or my husband. What he did to animals during his work day was cruel and sick. But in his defense, it was his job, and he was trying to support his family. He is still a loving father and grandfather.

I don't believe in working in a field that supports or indulges in killing or torturing animals, but we are not all in the same place. And obviously some people take these jobs. I would imagine that some people still have a conscience despite what they do at work.

[Crazy Healer Lady]

Good point, RawSun. What upsets me, though, is that he took so much enjoyment from it. In my mind, there's a difference between doing something like that for survival, and doing something like that because you enjoy it as well.

My boy is really sweet, though. He suggested we take a loaf of bread to Vancouver to feed the gulls, as sort of a retribution not only for what his friend did, but others have been doing, too. So, when the weather's good enough for us to drive there again, or take the train, we'll be holding a little ceremony.

I had no idea, though, how much I needed to grieve those poor gulls, though. So I did my grieving and am able to approach the situation calmly.

[Jenifae]

It's sad that Humanity is so far removed from Nature and that Violence has desensitized us so much that some Humans actually find pleasure in harming others. It's called Specieism when you objectify animals in that way.

Did you follow up to see if they've gone out there, yet? I would call an Animal Protection Agency.

Many Blessings to You

[freshlight]

I've read somewhere that bread is a very unhealthy thing for birds and when they get fed b. they do often get sick and die soon. Perhaps some seeds would be better? ....just a thought

[Crazy Healer Lady]

Thanks, Freshlight! I'll research what's best for them.

I know it's not good to feed wild animals, and many get upset when you feed gulls and crows, but it's a one-time deal :) It will be well away from people and we'll do it in a way that doesn't associate people and food (i.e. not throwing it to them, but maybe leaving in a pile on the beach, for instance).

Jenifae, I haven't followed up. I should! Thank you

[Jenifae]

Jenifae, I haven't followed up. I should! Thank you

Oh that's great! Let us know what happens. Hopefully something, right?

[Thick]

You can stop at a bait shop and get them some small fish or shrimp. I think that is a wonderful idea.