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sweetgoddess
07-17-2005, 02:01 PM
Iteresting article. Raises a very valid point. Thought I would share ~its from their Raw Family newsletter.

by Victoria and Valya Boutenko

Victoria: Ever since I can remember myself, I always loved to eat. I had a good appetite and mealtimes were always pleasant for me. Both my parents and my nanny cheerfully complemented me if I finished everything on my plate, so I decided that eating was a great merit and this was my first dietary lesson: the more one eats, the better.
When I was about five years old and my parents took me to a day care, I remember how shocked I was to meet some children that didnÂ’t like to eat, who were sitting and sobbing for a long time at the table, refusing to finish their plates. As a punishment, teachers didnÂ’t let those children play and insisted that they stayed at the table until their plates were empty. I felt so much sympathy for my friend Nina who couldnÂ’t finish her plate of porridge that I often I would trade her full plate with my empty one when the teachers were not watching. I gladly ate her porridge as well as my own.

One day, when I missed the ball in a game and had to step out, I made a curious observation: the children who didn’t like to eat had a light body constitution, and the ones who ate well, were a lot heavier. I realized that there was a conflict between the events in reality and the preachings of my parents and teachers. As I watched the children on the playground I saw that it was noticeably more challenging for the heavier children to run around than it was for the ones who were lighter. At the time, grown-ups represented an impeccable authority to me, so I decided they could not be mistaken and continued to eat as they instructed me to. Adults told me that if I wanted to grow, I had to eat “well” and I didn’t question them in this matter.

As a result of the dietary habits I acquired as a child, I went through a lot of pain and despair in my life. It took me almost 50 years to discover a healthy way of eating. Even though I now feel vibrantly healthy, I still realize that too much of my life force has been wasted on fighting un-necessary illnesses caused by wrong eating habits set up in my childhood. I often wonder how I would look and feel if I had led the lifestyle I lead today from the beginning of my childhood.



Valya: I realize how fortunate I have been to be introduced to a healthy lifestyle at an early age. I often wonder where I would be today if I hadnÂ’t changed my way of living. I was born with asthma. Almost every other night I was unable to sleep due to an inability to breathe. I was told that I would have asthma for the rest of my life and I watched with dread as it continued to steadily worsen every year. Besides my complicated breathing condition, all of my early days I constantly suffered with multiple allergies, colds and earaches.

When I was eight, my family and I began eating 100% raw food. Since the day I changed my diet, I have never experienced another asthmatic attack again. I am so happy to no longer be hindered by my former illnesses. Every day I enjoy brilliant health! IÂ’m deeply grateful to my parents for helping me change my eating habits and encouraging me to understand the value of being healthy. Great health is truly the greatest gift a parent can give to a child.



Victoria: I remember how I cried all through the night in my kitchen when the doctor pronounced that my son had juvenile diabetes. I cried loudly and hopelessly, not willing to accept my son’s sad destiny to live with this sickness. My grandmother had had this same illness and she passed away unexpectedly from an overdose of insulin. It seemed like a miracle had blessed my family when my husband and I found a lifestyle that helped our son reverse his symptoms. Now that he is a healthy and quite happy 20 years old, it is now safe for me to share one other side of our family’s life that we have never spoken about before. At certain times on our journey, neighbors, co-workers, other children’s parents and some friends, have frowned upon us for our radical change of lifestyle. Both Igor and I spent countless sleepless nights in doubts, carefully rethinking whether we were doing the right thing feeding our children this “cookless” diet. There were so many things that we didn’t know at that time and there was nobody in all the world to ask for advice. Often we had to learn by trial and error. We were continuing mainly because we had great results. Three months after becoming all raw, my family ran a 10K race Bolder Boulder, that was an unbelievable achievement for every one of us and served as a confirmation that we were on the right track. Today I appreciate that, in spite of all resistance towards our lifestyle, my family has continued staying on a raw food diet. Together with Valya we are working on a new book called “Inspiring Children to Eat Healthy” where we are sharing many tips that my family has collected over time. We believe that all people should have the opportunity to heal themselves and live free of disease.



Valya: There have been several occasions when our neighbors have called social services on my parents, claiming that they were not feeding or clothing my brother and me. On one such occasion, my brother and I were home alone when a stern looking lady with a clipboard stopped by our house. When she knocked, we answered the door together. She introduced herself and asked us how old we were. We told her that Sergei was eleven, and I was ten. She could tell for herself that we were well clothed and were definitely not starving to death. “What did you have for lunch dear?” she asked my brother. Sergei sensed that this was an odd question for such a lady to ask, because she did not seem like the type to be at all interested in health food. So instead of explaining that we had been eating only fresh, organic live foods for two years and that each of us had gotten rid of our awful illnesses and that we were working on perfecting a raw lasagna recipe, he decided to tell her this: “We just came back from McDonalds where we each had a Big Mack with Fries.” This answer seemed to satisfy the lady, because she said, “Oh, okay then honey. You two have an nice evening now.” And then she left, never to be heard from again.

I did not think much of this incident until my parents came home that evening. When we told them about the strange questions we were asked they looked at each other and I could tell they were scared. They were relieved that my brother had said what he did. They warned us to do the same thing in other similar situations so that we would not be taken from them for any ridiculous reasons.



Victoria: When I heard about the story of the Andressohn family, who had their four children taken away from them for feeding them live foods, I felt obligated to give them as much support as possible. I donated a box of my books to the auction on their behalf, and Sergei and Valya have written letters to the judge. If you havenÂ’t heard about this case, go to the following website for the most accurate information: http://www.rawfriends..com/andressohns.html I encourage everyone to support them in any way.



Valya: Now that I am 19 years old, I am wondering about my future children: will I have to feed them at McDonalds to make sure they stay with me? Will I have to hide my children in order to keep them as healthy as I am? Even official resources criticize the standard American diet for causing obesity and sickness.



Victoria: When I hear that feeding a child good, healthy organic food is called abuse, I realize that the organizations that protect childrenÂ’s rights urgently need nutritional education. Yet, I wouldnÂ’t justify separating a child from his or her parents, even if they fed this child nothing but TV dinners and candy, which have been scientifically proven to be the main cause of most degenerative disease. Being a mother myself I know that nobody in the world cares for children more than their own mother and father. That is why I believe that if parents would clearly see that feeding their children processed food results in poor health, many of parents would encourage their children to eat better. I am glad to see a lot of scientific research done recently in the world. Even our new food pyramid has been changed towards eating more fruits and vegetables. The raw food diet is becoming very popular in every state and country. I would like to inspire my readers to support the Andressohn family so that they win their case. This case is being widely covered by the media and will definitely shift the mainstream attitude towards alternative eating. It is an opportunity to help all children become healthier without fear.

www.rawfamily.com

tracyinfo
07-17-2005, 02:40 PM
Very interesting! Thanks for posting.

Blessings.

Sharon in Colorado
07-17-2005, 03:23 PM
Valya: There have been several occasions when our neighbors have called social services on my parents, claiming that they were not feeding or clothing my brother and me. On one such occasion, my brother and I were home alone when a stern looking lady with a clipboard stopped by our house. When she knocked, we answered the door together. She introduced herself and asked us how old we were. We told her that Sergei was eleven, and I was ten. She could tell for herself that we were well clothed and were definitely not starving to death. “What did you have for lunch dear?” she asked my brother. Sergei sensed that this was an odd question for such a lady to ask, because she did not seem like the type to be at all interested in health food. So instead of explaining that we had been eating only fresh, organic live foods for two years and that each of us had gotten rid of our awful illnesses and that we were working on perfecting a raw lasagna recipe, he decided to tell her this: “We just came back from McDonalds where we each had a Big Mack with Fries.” This answer seemed to satisfy the lady, because she said, “Oh, okay then honey. You two have an nice evening now.” And then she left, never to be heard from again.

How dreadful is this. If they had told her they had 3 mangos and a basket of blueberries I wonder if the lady would have taken them away?

starry-eyed-doe
07-17-2005, 04:43 PM
thanks for posting that. it is amazing that people think something like a big mac and fries is more nutritional/sustaining than health fruits and veggies... :confused:

Live Free
07-17-2005, 06:05 PM
I feel the same way, feeding my baby fruits and vegetables is better.

I guess that will have to be a situation that my daughter may have to contend with someday too. I will tell her about the McDonalds incident.

Thanks for posting the article.
Teresa

twinyoga
07-17-2005, 08:07 PM
I go out to eat about once a week with my mommy friends (and our babies). Mine our nibbling on salads, veggies, sprouted bread and the other kids are eating chicken nuggets and fries. They all say "your children eat that?". And I say "have you ever offered it to your children?".

My children are gorgeous and thriving. I'm so proud of them and their future.

Sweet lips
07-17-2005, 08:24 PM
Thanks you for posting. It is so funny in the African American community that people used to look at us funny because Andrew was being raised as a vegetarian, and that he didn't drink milk, or eat meat or fish or chicken (non-veggie people think those three things are so different). Because my son is probably a descendent of the zulu tribe, his statue precluded them from having us arrested, but question us all the time. Now that he is in culinary school, the questions have come again and although he is a vegetarian, I am sadden that in order to make the grades, he has to prepare meat, and for every meat dish, he prepares a tofu clone as extra credit because he will not eat meat. It still is unsual for "our type" at church, but it is funny, everytime I make a raw dish to share for our dinner ( I do this so that we can have something to eat), we only get a smidgen because it is vaccumed up so fast - I really do not mind, but it is odd that when I suggest it, I get groans. The message is getting out, slowly, but none the less out. Just wait until I do the all raw dinner in September for a workshop, have I got news for them and then on top of that my testimony about healing - WOOHOO - ( I am sorry, but I am excited about this - oh freedom~freedom, that is from my Joan Baez days young people)

tracyinfo
07-17-2005, 08:38 PM
Sweetlips, you put a smile on my face. We are a vegetarian family also, and we have had some strange and silly people make comments to us, too. I'm glad you stuck your ground and went on ahead!

I am sure you will dazzle the people in the workshop with your words and your all raw dinner!

Blessings.

SedonaSun
07-17-2005, 08:43 PM
It still is unsual for "our type" at church, but it is funny, everytime I make a raw dish to share for our dinner ( I do this so that we can have something to eat), we only get a smidgen because it is vaccumed up so fast - I really do not mind, but it is odd that when I suggest it, I get groans.

I hear ya! Most people I talk to think it's a bit odd, though they do listen with open ears and ask honest questions. But most give the equivalent of "Oh, I could never do that, but it sounds healthy, good for you".

I make a raw Trail Bar that I shared with a couple people at church (one who was eating raw for a while) and they got passed to sad-foodies who just love them. I even just bartered a couple batches with a mecanic to recharge my AC. Yet they "could never" do raw. Frustrating. BUT...we are their witnesses and if we give up, they may never come to know the power of raw. That helps keep me on track sometimes.

simple berry
07-17-2005, 08:46 PM
How cool that your brothers and sisters at church are turned on to your food, Sweet lips! and even cooler that your son is taking the extra step to make sure he gets the education he deserves, even though it's harder. Where is he in school?

It's surprising to hear you describe 'our type' as disinterested in healthful vegie foods. Where i come from, the African American community is more turned on to life-sustaining foods than anyone else!

Sad that people have such prejudices against simple natural foods. I find that no one objects so long as the word 'raw' doesn't come up. 'Vegan,' too, is threatening to people who feel pre-judged for eating differently. When among people who don't love me and don't care... I just shrug and say I'm picky! People who are interested in the philosophy will seek it out as the time is right, as long as they aren't first alienated, i think.

Sweet lips
07-17-2005, 09:18 PM
Hey Simple Berry, where are you. I live on the east coast and in my church and even on our conference level which covers from Maryland through North Carolina, I can count the vegetarians on my hands - every dinner that I attend in chicken, roast beef or ham, and sometimes fish, string beans, macaroni and cheese or rice and gravy, and cake, with junk punch and sweet tea. Our breakfast at conference time can be bacon, eggs, sausage biscuts, grits, and fruit cocktail, so I am interested in where you are. Up until the late 1960's and early 1970's the A.A. community lead the nature in postive health actions because our diets consisted of mainly cooked veggies, and beans, and whole grains. Meat was served in most familes about twice a week, and there was a lot of exercise. Following advancements and more employement opportunties our diets changes considerably and we now lead the nature in negative health.

The blessing for me is that, this will be the second year that I have been asked ( people actually requested my return) to do a workshop on healthy eating at the Church School convention. This year, I am taking marinated greens and because many may desire to transition, I am doing a tofu salad, and a raw tuna made from carrot pulp, ( they really are going to think I am crazy with the orange tuna subsititute) and I think Alissa's fudge balls. We also ( my hubby will be working with me) are providing charts and a thirty day plan for those who desire to transition to raw, or those who only want to eat a little.

Sedonna - tell me more about your bars - I would like to make something like that for my daughter, and also for our son Andrew - look for his restaurant - ROOTHS (our last name) coming soon ;) A momma's got to support her child and call those things that be not as they are -.

Oh Berry - Andrew is in the culinary arts program at our school district. He desires to attend Johnson and Wales in the Fla or N.C. location or Florida Culinary Institute, next fall. We will encourage him and support him whereever he goes. He has his own catering company " Joyful Delights", which name I like for raw food - we'll see if he includes raw food on his menu. Again, I am just the momma!

Sharon in Colorado
07-17-2005, 09:29 PM
a raw tuna made from carrot pulp, ( they really are going to think I am crazy with the orange tuna subsititute)

Just call it salmon salad Sweet Lips. It'll be more believable because it's orange!

Sweet lips
07-17-2005, 09:31 PM
Cool and thanks Salmon salad it is. :)

truthseeker
07-17-2005, 11:45 PM
In another post I just talked about our family's "RAW DAY" that we had today. It was family picnic day with my daughters girl scout troop.

I packed a picnic basket for our family even though food was provided at the picnic by the troop leaders. This is what I packed:

smoothies for everyone
apple pie
corn chips with salsa and guacamole
watermelon
peaches
plums
marinaded portabellas


Well, I too am noticing that .......people are watching. My dauthers girl scout leader came over to our family as we were sitting down eating our lunch. (Now there were about 12 family's there, all sitting and eating the provided lunch except our family). But she came over to our familty, and stood over us. I noticed (well it was SO obvious) that she was eyeballing EVERYTHING that we were eating, just glaring down at our food as she asked us questions like...." and how is your summer going?" But not listening to our responce at all or even making eye contact with us, not to mention that she did not "visit" any of the other family's while they were eating. Odder still was that as soon as my younger daughter made her way over to the "junk food table" (that's what the leader called it) and grabbed about 6 cookies and shared them with her brother....then the leader seemed to be ok with us and didn't look over at us or spend any more of her time near our picnic blanket/area.

My kids know that some choices are theirs and they are free to excercise them. I don't let them go crazy at functions, but they know what Junk is and they feel the difference too. "Mommy, how come my belly hurts?"...."Mommy, how come I have a headache?"......so when they do chose to have a sample or two of junk, I do see them learning and making wiser decisions. My oldest did stay raw today and ate TONS of watermelon ;)

I must share, it was THE MOST appealing site, I had to take it in..........
plush green woodlands sournding an abandoned picnic table with the juice of 2 whole watermelons and another cut up, slices and chunks just tossed about the table top with each drip to the ground calling to the core of every childs most primal nature for the love of natures sweet.......sweet nectar.
And I panned over to a view of my child.....sitting in the grass with juice running down her arms and dripping from her chin as she makes eye contact with me and grins a smile that lit the field..........and caressed my heart.


I had one of those freeze frame moments in life when I take the time to inhale and absorb EVERY nano second.

Anywho,

I do fear ignorant people when it comes to my children. Perhaps I will teach my oldest to lie also about Mc Donalds. How sad is that :(

truthseeker
07-18-2005, 01:02 AM
Sweet Lips,

I have been dying for a "tuna" recipe.......could you please post on the recipe page?


Many thanks!

Mommax4
07-18-2005, 12:13 PM
I just found their books on ebay and ordered all three. With one of the purchases he actually sent me a rough draft of a new book they are writing..I'm hooked..lol Makes me realize just how many "issues" I really have to contend with.