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kaybee
11-14-2008, 06:30 AM
HI all--

Ive finally found a place to run a series of raw foods classes, but I could use a ton of help in terms of figuring out structure and also because there are alot of restrictions.

First thing: I had wanted to run this course a few months ago, but I am living in a small town with little in terms of public spaces to use/rent, and I doing it at home was not an option as I live in a 3-room trailer. So I finally have a place to do it--my friends mom is going to let me rent out her art studio. BUT i feel like the timing is a bit bad because a few months ago I could have done alot with summer foods, whereas now people are going to be looking for warmer, heavier, hot (cooked...) foods, as it is cold and damp here already and will be for many months. So thats the first hurdle--How do I introduce people to the raw diet and make it attractive to people --when its something theyve never heard of before--when its going into winter and we cant get (because of both cost and availability) alot of the "heavier" winter foods like nuts and dates...??? (and, when people are used to eating alot of winter foods like potatoes turnips cabbage carrots, warm, cooked foods)? But this is the time when Ive finally been able to arrange for use of the studio, so if I want to do it, its got to be now, even if its not the ideal season. I just think its much easier to attract people to this lifestyle in the spring and summer, rather than going into the winter, especially in such a cold, damp climate...

heres a bit of background: im living in ireland, in a small far-west town. raw foods is not really recognized here yet. there are 1 or 2 people within about 15 miles of here that are into raw, and we have a decent hfs in town, but people in general dont really know what raw means, besides carrot sticks... SO, I want to introduce as many people as possible--partially for selfish reasons ;p because i want there to be more people here on my wavelength, and i want there to be enuff people to start potlucks :) I would like to make the course open to everyone, even if they cant afford to pay a fee, or the full fee, but I also need to cover the costs of materials and space rental. Im not intending to make any money on this; I want to do it more as a "spread the word" type thing, because I prefer that people not have to pay money in order to learn how to live healthier, and I really want to spread the world about healthier diet. SO, I have been thinking of doing a 4 night course, all in one week, for a couple hours each night. Does this sound reasonable? When most people do cooking classes around here, they do 4 or 5 nights worth. I dont want to do just one 2 hour class because i dont want this to be just an intro, I want it to be something that really enables people to go all out and try as much raw as they can. I would like it to be more of a full-course, that really gives alot of ideas, rather than just an intro. Im not sure about structure though... i was thinking maybe the first night as an intro night maybe with trying some random raw foods, really good stuff, giving some scientific stuff and the reasons for the raw diet. I want to do sprouting and smoothies one night too, and i dont know whether to include this in the first night or to do it a night all on its own. i figured i could do a night of salads, a night of entrees, and somewhere include soups and desserts and snacks and breakfasts. So yeah, i need help with structure. lotsa help :) Also, Im trying to come up with a reasonable fee to charge.... the studio costs me 20 euro a night to use, and then there are costs for food.... I want to make it affordable, but Im thinking Ill have to charge at least 40 euro per person..which sounds like a bit much, but in order to cover the costs... I still want to put on the flyer that everyone is welcome regardless of whether they can pay, but i dont want to end up with noone paying and then me ending up footing the bill for everything... suggestions...?

Heres what Im talking about in terms of "restrictions" :

-EQUIPMENT RESTRICTIONS: things like dehydrators and juicers arent generally available here. they are extremely expensive (like EVERYTHING in this country is) and not something that most people will be able to get or afford. So I want to include alot of non-dehydrator recipes so as to not make raw seem un-doable to people. I have an excalibur that Im willing to lend out for a few days at a time to people, but on the whole, most recipes need to be dehydrator-free--UNLESS does anyone have ideas for dehydrating without a dehydrator? i.e. ive seen things about using bulbs in ovens or whatever? also, its very damp here so just leaving things out to dry wont work.
-blenders and food processors are more affordable, but there are no ten-dollar blenders like there are at home. usually your talking about more like 50 bucks a pop. alot of people tend to have the "stick blenders" though, which would work in a pinch. coffee grinders for grinding nuts and seeds are out of the question at 50 euro a pop...(???!!!!!crazy. they cost 10 bucks in the states)...

FOOD RESTRICTIONS: this is a big one, which is why im going to have to really tailor my recipes to whats available locally, which is pretty limited compared to what we're used to being able to get in the states. (sometimes i feel like i would give my left arm for a Whole Foods, even if it is a.k.a. whole paycheck...) The biggest one is NUTS, which are super-expensive. walnuts, pecans, brazil nuts and pinenuts are out of the question as they tend to be rancid, no matter the source. Almonds are OK and hazelnuts are OK (although arent hazelnuts stabilized in some way and not really raw??) though still expensive. "Raw" cashews taste fermented, so i will use them in a pinch, but prefer not to...So my recipes need to make minimal use of nuts.

VEGGIES, especially greens, believe it or not, are also not available in huge variety or quantity, at least not organic, except cabbage, potatoes, carrots, lettuce, and some spinach and some kale. Even non-organic greens are pretty limited to lettuce, cabbage, and bagged spinach, bagged arugula, bagged baby greens, but they are expensive, non-organic, and i dont consider them super-fresh. Fresh herbs like parsley and cilantro can only be gotten in small amounts and not organic (no big bunches like at whole foods). So Im pretty limited in terms of variety of greens, which is pretty frustrating.

The other kicker is that non-dried dates are hard to get here unless you go to the wholefoods warehouse distributor, and buy in bulk and even there they are on the pricey side and only of mediocre quality. Dried fruits in general are pretty pricey, though dried currants are reasonable.

Anything "exotic" is a no-go. mangos, pineapple, avocados and other "seasonal" (as in seasonal in southern europe, etc) fruits are available and pretty reasonable. Any unusual herbs, veggies, or anything not in season is not usually available, even if you drive an hour to the nearest city. NO berries out of season, not even non-organic frozen ones, as far as I have seen. Superfoods are only minimally available--no raw chocolate, no maca, you can get gojis but i wont touch them because theyre sourced in china and non-organic. I dont use a lot of superfoods anyway because I cant afford them, so/but my recipes need to mostly steer clear of them. Basically, my dessert recipes are going to be heavily compromised as no chocolate, minimal nuts and dates, etc... so anyone got any great-tasting dessert recipes free of these ingredients?

So, What IS available? organic sproutable grains, legumes, and seeds are dirt cheap. sunflower seeds are cheap, and we have sproutable hemp in shell available. organic root veggies, lettuce, cabbage, mushrooms, some spinach, some kale, garlic, ginger, onions, hot peppers, celery, winter squash, dry goods like honey, tamari, cold pressed oils (dont know if theyre really raw but i use em cuz its all i can get) are available, and other things like fennel, peppers, zucchini, leeks, broccoli, cauliflower, etc etc etc random veggies are available but for use in smaller amounts because they tend to be on the pricey side. fruits are available enough and affordable enough (at the moment, apples, pears, persimmons, pomegranite, melons, oranges, bananas, the occasionial papaya or mango, lemons, etc), as long as youre willing to buy them non-organic. The other thing that is in abundance--BUT Im having trouble finding out where it is safest to harvest it because noone knows, or really seems to care much--is SEAWEED. were on a peninsula, so there are beaches everywhere washing up seaweed, but there are also houses nearby everywhere, and there are some fishing boats, so its difficult to know where is safest/pollution free. There are also some wildfoods available, namely sorrel and nettles, though the nettles are dying off for the season. sorrel though is frost-tolerant, I think.
(I myself have access to a bit more variety of greens because I have a small garden, but most here do not, or at least not a garden or greenhouse with winter crops.)

(Im not going to steer these people towards all raw at the moment because its just not a viable possibility at this point in time, due to food availability, the winter season, difficulty of obtaining equipment, etc, but I'd love to get them started by encouraging them to include much more raw foods.) I have SOME pretty good ideas on recipes tailored to local availability, Im pretty set on salads, for example (lentil salad, root veggie salads, etc), but really could use more in the way of entrees, especially low-nut, dehydrator-free, heavier, "wintery" "SAD-approved ;p " entrees that people used to eating alot of bread, potatoes, meat, and dairy would still find delicious and satisfying... Tall order, huh? ;)

OK all, I better stop now as this post is HUGE. thanks MUCH for suggestions

kaybee

spicyfull
11-14-2008, 06:34 AM
Congratulations.....I wish you all My Best.

cherrypie
11-14-2008, 04:14 PM
don't give up coming from the statess it looks for you that you have hardly any options but it is not true. you need to make the best out of what you have and least the veggies you had hand have taste!!! I moved from europe the states and was shocked that, although I am having a huge variety here almost everything is tasteless unless I am spending a furtune at the local farmers market or whole foods which as a staying at home mum I can no longer afford.

So back to you- Tesco, Sainsbury and Asda are normally a good and affordable source for frozen fruit and exotic fruits, specially when they run their 2 for 1 etc. offers. Seaweed and non soy miso used to be available at Sainsburys, and it was not overly epensive. A good brand is Clearspring, also for organic teas.

Look up Shazzie she is a raw foodie in the UK who has her own site, and might come up with good recipe ideas that are suited for the veggies you have available. Same as for gillian mckeith- not strictly a raw foodie- but with a lot of good ideas (I was raw in the UK- although I thought that is impsossible with that climate and it worked)

Eva
11-14-2008, 04:43 PM
I would suggest a sunflower seed pate (need some sort of bell pepper, sunflower seeds, salt, some oil, lemon/lime/or applecider vinegar) that you roll up in cabbage leaves for one recipe.

If you can easily get nori, I would suggest that for another.

As for the cost, you could say "40 Euro suggested donation" on the flyer or something of that nature.

When are you going to hold it? I can put my thinking cap on and try to think on more details. What a lovely person you are for thinking of all these variables and of the people that will be in attendance. :)

kaybee
11-14-2008, 05:40 PM
hey cherry pie--yeah, sometimes I feel like I would give my left arm (or at least pinky finger) for a whole foods though, just to get a couple bunches of parsley ;) (I finally have some growing in the garden big enough to use, but its enough for about 1 bunch a week if its going to last through the winter. ;( ) Good point on Tesco, i wondered if they had frozen fruit but the nearest one is in tralee about an hour away. Im going to check it out next time im there or killarney. We dont have Sainsbury's or Asda here or near here, but we just got a lidl in town this summer and that place is a godsend. not a ton of organics, but at least i can AFFORD the fruit there (1 euro avocados, pomegranates, papayas, 2.50 for 2 kilo of oranges, etc). i dont think id be able to afford fruit without them. Thats a good point about checking out shazzie and gillian mckeiths recipes for more "local availability tailored" recipes... though i have the impression theres a much wider variety available in england than here?); I know theres also a raw cafe over on the east coast of ireland that ive been in touch with and I might try to touch base with them again. After several summers here, im finally getting used to trying to use whats available instead of whining about whats not (do wish we could get some decent nuts though). Ive GOT to find someone to tell me about seaweed tho. we're totally surrounded by it, i haul loads of it for the garden a couple times a week, and it seems crazy to have to go buy little packets in the shop,when theres so much laying around. someone told me theres a clean place to forage it about an hour from here, but i drove all the way out there and it didnt strike me as that much different environment from the beaches around me, so Id love to find closer. the tides bring in nori, dulse, kelp, bladderwrack, irish moss, sea spaghetti and a bunch of other stuff. too bad theres boats and runoff from peoples homes to pollute it... the irish nation could probably prevent a TON of its disease if it would just use its abundant seaweed and nettles to mineralize itself...

Eva--Im going to try to run it in about 2 weeks. The people who are letting me use their art studio for the demos are away for 5 weeks, so I need to do it while theyre gone, to stay out of their way. The "suggested donation" thing sounds like a good way to phrase it. honestly, if i end up footing part of the bill, its not the end of the world since Im taking care of the people (with the studios) dog part of the time and getting paid for it so it just equals out to me not getting paid for taking care of him if people dont contribute enough to cover the cost otherwise.... thanks for the praise, but i only partly deserve it ;p like i said, i really want to get more people on my wavelength so i have more people to relate to, so... hehehe (grin). sure, if you can think more about details/ structure, that would be great. i feel totally confident to run a class because i feel like ive played with raw foods for long enough to know what im talking about, but ive never actually run one before, so im really not quite sure how to organize... like... i want to do a section on smoothies and one on salads, etc, but then i was thinking people probably arent going to get as much (enjoyment? or experience or whatever) out of trying 3 smoothies in one night and 3 salads or whatever another night as they might just tasting a different smoothie every night. but i also dont want to just do one complete meal or something each night because i think its better organized to do different types of foods (i.e. smoothies, salads, entrees, etc) each on different nights, in order to better let people organize it in their heads and absorb the info... yeah, def some kind of sunny pate is a good idea, or maybe zuch-sunflower hummus. wish dehydrators were more affordable here though so i could emphasize wraps and crackers and stuff. feel free to email me if you want instead of posting because i dont know if it makes sense to tie up a thread with all specifics?

thanks

kaybee

RawKnitster
11-14-2008, 05:55 PM
I hope you spread the word and make some new friends. Jumping right into green smoothies or big lectures would have put me off. I don't have a clue how it should be done, but starting off by preparing "guests" a special meal seems like a good way to get people interested. Maybe a tasty appetizer, a beautiful salad, and Fig & Date Squares for dessert. Keep 'em coming back for more with the promise of another yummy recipe to taste the next time. Best of luck to you! :)

tiggerbounce
11-14-2008, 06:37 PM
Perhaps.....this sounds like a great opportunity to see how many of your guests would be interested in putting together a co-op. Buy together in bulk. You might find others as frustrated as yourself. You could offer it up at your classes and maybe you could even find a way to get equipment less expensive or a way to share the expense and equipment.

Just a thought.

Good luck and congrats on your classes!:D

kaybee
11-14-2008, 06:43 PM
hmmmm. yeah, maybe starting off with a great meal would be good... Im intending to have people do alot of sampling of all of the recipes as i make them (and have some things like a few dehydrated goodies pre-made, or make them one night, dehydrate and sample them the next night...); i really want to do a large number of recipes (even if small amounts) so people can try alot of stuff...simple stuff thats easy to do and made with affordable, easily available stuff, but tasty... argh. too bad its not summer. Pesto is my best friend and works for everything. no basil around now :/ oops, yeah, i dont really want it to be lectures, i want it to be mostly practical stuff with an intro "lecture" to start off with to give basics.... but maybe i could make some kind of a meal, or at least h'orsdevors (sp.. hahaha i KNOW thats spelled way wrong but i have no clue)) and have that stuff for people to munch on while i give the intro info on the first day... that may work well.... then they get to munch on yummy raw food and can listen to me tell them about the benefits, basics etc in the meantime, then the next few days we learn about making the stuff... still up in the air about if 4 days is too many though or if there will be enough info/stuff/material to do, etc to do an hour and a half or 2 hours for 4 nights...but 3 seems kinda quick to cram it all in....

I dont have to advertise it as starting with a meal, but yeah, i think your right, making some good food to start people off with would be great. maybe fruit smoothies along with salad, finger foods (not gonna try and spell that french word again ;p ), and desserts...

I really could use more ideas for dehydrator-free "carby" stuff though...and maybe a great idea for SAD WINNER entree or finger foods for that first night. dehydrator OK for the foods on the intro night because I want to make it really appeal to them...

thanks again

k

tiggerbounce
11-14-2008, 07:40 PM
chocolate pudding made with avos = DELICIOUS

raw pumpkin pie left as a smoothie, no crust of course, heh. Very tasty.

pasta made with zuchinni or squash is always a winner

a green salad with seasonal greens topped with chopped mango is good, various salad dressings would also be good to try

fresh veggies with dips and pate is nice for everyone

corn chowder (banana search the recipe right here on site)

kale chips (recently discovered by Tigger on this site....life for Tigger will never be the same......heh)

lettuce wraps with marinated mushrooms, sunflower seed pate, etc. Like a taco.

taco salads

sprouts are easy to grow, cheap and nutritious...add to smoothies and salads.

granola left like cereal or made into bars, easy to grab and go

Alissa's cheese sauce made with peppers would also work for the veggies for dipping

definitely a green smoothie made mostly with fruit to start out

fruit smoothies/slushes, oh yum....!

with a dehydrator the raw chili is absolutely wonderful

those are a few quickie ideas, I am sure you will get a ton more. Have fun!

kaybee
11-17-2008, 10:46 AM
hey tiggerbounce--thanks for all those suggestions. I think Im going to try to do a "knock their socks off" type of "meal"/i.e. snacks/various foods for people to try for the first night so they can be snackin while im talking, and that way they get introduced to the yummy-ness of raw foods, before i start talking about anything else to do with it. good food always makes an impact. :)

Eva
11-17-2008, 10:59 AM
I just sent you an email, but here's part of it:

More advice -- ALWAYS prepare foods in a given night that combine well together! You do not want their first impression of raw to be gas and ferment and belly ache! At the beginning of the class, send around a lovely sample for them to try, then demonstrate how to make it, then give them the opportunity to make it. Show them streamlining. (i.e. how to efficiently make things so that you're not in the kitchen all day!)

Definitely start them on sprouting on the first day and let them see the progress over the course of the next few days. This is a good, cheap way to get your greens "when the sun don't shine"!