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SuziS
11-08-2008, 01:27 PM
Just looking for some guidance for a friend. He had a triple bypass in April. He is very interested in using diet to reduce his cholesterol and get healthy again. Does anyone have any good articles or books I can recommend? He has been told not to eat oils at all and is not happy to have to give up his salad dressings. I was telling him about my wonderful raw dressings that I eat and he was wondering if unheated oils would be ok for him. He is also into Ayurvedic medicine which he says is telling him oils are ok. So, he is a little confused! Any guidance would be appreciated! Thanks!:D
Lady Green Jeans
11-08-2008, 02:49 PM
Is your friend open to trying the raw food lifestyle to improve his health?
Bariani puts out a raw olive oil. Maybe read up on all the benefits of olive oil in the Meditarian diet (the healthies diet on earth next to raw). Would not be afraid to incorporate into the diet. It's all about balance. Heated oils are really bad news healthwise for anyone.
Lots of salads, fresh fruits and veggies, Green Smoothies (favorite way to start the day). Alissa's book is not 'technical' but is full of great examples, a good food plan to start out and awsome recipes.
SuziS
11-09-2008, 08:43 AM
I know that he is open to raw foods because I used to bring him food and he loved it.
That is what I told him, that I thought uncooked oils should be fine in limited amounts.
Thanks for your input!
rawstrength
11-09-2008, 10:03 AM
In Greece they pour liberal amounts of raw olive oil over everything. Once a dish is done being cooked, the olive oil gets drenched on. Greece has the second lowest rate of heart disease in the world. I think the wisdom of the mediterranean diet holds true; you can eat raw fats and stay healthy.
I would recommend limiting the oils for your friend, though, as his heart has already been through severe trauma. Green foods are the most healing for the heart.
ArcturusXIV
11-09-2008, 10:28 AM
Wow, this is good information. Is there anything else one can do for heart disease? My friend's mom has heart trouble, and my friend and I have been trying to get her to try a raw food diet. I'm not sure what other stuff she could use, but I'm sure anything would help.
Revvell
11-09-2008, 12:19 PM
The best dvd I know of on the topic is "Eating (http://revvellations.com/shopping/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&products_id=9&zenid=092c32deb0f4e12c22ec5e410335a45d)". I gave one to a friend who was cooking meat at the time of watching it. She immediately stopped. It's an impressive video. It's over and hour long.
Revvell
northernstars
11-09-2008, 01:43 PM
I have heard that the reason a heart patient should not have oil is because of the saturated fat and omega 6 found in them. I think the oils would have that whether cold-pressed or not.
rawstrength
11-09-2008, 02:31 PM
I have heard that the reason a heart patient should not have oil is because of the saturated fat and omega 6 found in them. I think the oils would have that whether cold-pressed or not.
The most commonly eaten oils on a SAD diet are canola oil, soy oil, and animal fats. All of these lipids are really rich in either omega-6 or saturated fat. Olive oil, however, is almost pure mono-unsaturated fat, and has low levels of omega-6 and saturated fat. Flax oil is mainly omega-3 and would help to heal the heart by correcting the imbalance caused by a diet too high in omega-6. Coconut oil is a different kind of saturated fat than the saturated fat found in animal products and also is very healing to the heart. The entire modern medical system is incorrect and out of balance, because it is based on patients eating incorrect and out of balance foods, who themselves are out of balance (and doctors are eating SAD/CRAP food too, and out of balance).
Some pretty complex electro-magnetic stuff controls the heart, and also the brain effects the heart, too (keeps it beating normally). The brain is mostly fat.
SuziS
11-09-2008, 08:11 PM
Thanks everyone! I may be getting that dvd for my friend - Thanks Revvell!
Sugar Snap Pea
11-09-2008, 08:31 PM
Dr Dean Ornish writes a book on reversing heart disease through diet. While not raw, it is good information and your friend could learn alot from it and adapt it to his own plan.
ShantiLove
11-10-2008, 05:04 AM
Well all this fear of fat has gotten us all confused. There is good colesterol and bad one. We need the good one to function probaly.
Udo Erasmus has writen a great book about oils and the difference in them and about the omeagas, really interesting reading.
I would say yes to the olive and flax oils aswell. There are several vitamines and minerals that strengthens the arteries, the heart and help the blod flow and ofcourse balances the colosterol level. The first ones that comes to mind is vitamine C (verry important one), Calcium; but be carefull with that one, study it and make shure you get the right kind, otherwise it will just clog the arteries, vitamine D, magnesium and some more that I cant remember right now. But check it out on the internet or in a good relaiable book. A good balanced diet would provide him with most of thies nutriens.
Im sure Acid/alkaline balance has somthing to do here too.
I would say a high rawfood diet too, but go gently on the nuts ;-) (maby sprouts would be a better choice for proteins ?)
rawstrength
11-10-2008, 05:22 AM
Yes, getting the right kind of calcium is very important, as is flushing out the wrong kind of calcium. Go to youtube and look up "David Wolfe on Calcium." Watch all 7 parts of the video. Also, google "nanobacteria"
annavon
11-11-2008, 03:49 PM
The best way to reduce cholesterol is through fiber. Fortunately a raw vegan diet is inherently high in fiber. I have some oil-free raw salad dressing recipes at home. I will try to post them on the recipe board either tomorrow or the day after. (late night tonight/early morning tomorrow = not much time)
Lady Green Jeans
11-11-2008, 04:06 PM
My dad's MD/Heart Specialist advised him after his bypass that he could go on meds or do a vegetarian diet. He has been on meds for 5+ years and gripes about all the lousy tests that he has to do to make sure all his med levels are okay. He lives in the heart of "meat and potato" country, so really can't blame him--he simply cannot make the transition in his diet.
When I go visit, I cook as healthy as I can for him and make as much raw as I can. He is limited on the amount of greens as they throw off the med levels. Wish he would just chuck it and go vegan. Maybe when he gets sick and tired of being sick and tired he will ask me again.
curlygirl82
11-11-2008, 11:19 PM
Vitamin C.
Linus Pauling, the only man to ever receive two Nobel prizes (for chemistry and peace), did some amazing research on vitamin C and heart disease. Basically: 1. We're one of the very few mammals who don't synthesize their own vitamin C (have to get it from diet) 2. we're pretty much the only animals who get heart disease. 3. heart disease is basically chronic, low-grade scurvy (the arterial walls are weakened, then cholesterol is deposited to patch them up - but these leads to blockages. the only way to avoid this is to repair the arterial walls). 4. when you megadose on vitamin C, you can REVERSE heart disease.
The book is _How to Live Longer and Feel Better_ by Linus Pauling. It's really easy to read, and fascinating. Pauling was a pioneer in orthomolecular medicine - basically healing through nutrition. He doesn't get into raw foods, per se, but more huge supplements. I would think that you'd be getting more vitamin C in a raw food diet, but supplementing wouldn't hurt, either ('cos your body just eliminates what vitamin C it doesn't use).
I'd highly recommend his book. After reading it, I bought huge jars of Vitamin C for many people in my family.
Best of luck to your friend!
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