View Full Version : Is this too harsh about my family?
raweater
11-07-2008, 12:09 AM
I've decided to write a few pages about the corrupt health care system in my recipe book so people really see the need to eat healthy, when you understand that the health care system is the #1 cause of death and that most of their treatments actually accelerate death compared to even no treatment at all, people will probably see the importance of taking care of their health.
I've written this part to a paragraph and was wondering if it's to harsh about my family (considering they may very well read it), what do you think?
"Some people in my family consider themselves lucky to have friends that are doctors (not surprisingly, they are the ones in the worst health with many diseases that could easily be cured for free), and ignore what I told them thinking I believe in nonsense (eating foods that cause deadly diseases along with taking pills of toxic petroleum based chemicals sold by companies who’s only interest is making profit makes sense to them, but eating healthy food is nonsense, only someone trusting a doctor would believe in such absurdity). I can understand why they would rather trust a friend that’s a doctor, but it’s incredibly frustrating to me as I know they are needlessly suffering and will have a significantly shortened life if they keep trusting their doctor, which they probably will."
So is it too harsh or is it acceptable?
BTW I still have pictures to take and may write a few more recipes, I really want to have it finished ASAP for the Christmas sales.
Thanks
curlygirl82
11-07-2008, 12:48 AM
I"m not one to say what's "too" harsh, but it does come across as more of a personal attack. My suggestion would be to make your fundamental point, stripping away the personal jab. I agree it's definitely important to attack the health care industry (don't get me started, I get so angry I practically cry everytime). So make your point about how it's insane without belittling the people that buy into it. Plus, it's not just your family that buys into it, it's EVERYBODY. So you don't have to make it personal. I think that'll make it more persuasive to the average joe reading it. Unless you want it to be about the social/personal difficulties in being raw and thinking differently...?
Just my humble opinion.
raweater
11-07-2008, 12:51 AM
I agree, I think I will leave it out, they (both ym family and average readers) will get the point anyway.
Thanks
Apasaraw
11-15-2008, 05:17 PM
I love my Dr. She takes blood once a year and supports my lifestyle. She in turn has made changes in her own life. Not all MDs are bad. You only HEAR about the bad ones.
Just my 2 cents on marketing:
You won't win any people over to your recipes if you sprinkle it with lack of compassion for where the reader stands. There She or He is...reading your book, desiring change and positivity and some healing...give them what they desire. Not a soapbox. They will understand all of that Dr. stuff as they go...organically learning it as they evolve with raw...or have already experienced it and want to move on.
As for what you wrote, if you want to just tell your family all of that...just do it if it will help you clear the air. Deliver the msg in a way they will listen. OR live your lifestyle, flourish and as they watch from the sidelines....soon they will be intrigued...and come to you instead.
Flourish and thrive! :)
Good luck with your book!
raweater
11-15-2008, 05:43 PM
I know not all MDs are bad but well over 99.99% are, as nothing they are ever taught is true or for the benefit of the patient, also, if they do something that's truely for the benefit of the patient they will normally loose their jobs and often get jailed, especially with profitable diseases like cancer. They simply cannot honestly help their patients or they risk loosing their job and a long prison sentence. That's why even people who have doctors as friends are getting killed by their doctor, and neither the doctor or patient knows because they're all blinding believing in big pharma.
What do you mean by sprinkling it with lack of compassion?
Are you saying I should not point out the facts about modern medicine? Ithink it's extremely important to know, nothing on this planet is more dangerous than what doctors are taught and obliged to do to their patients, it's the equivalent of 9/11 occuring 4 to 16 times every single day, yet most people believe doctors save lives and do miracles.
My family thinks eating the way I do has no effect on my health whatsoever because their doctors which are their friends tell them it's beyond absurd and that only drugs could get me healthy.
Thanks
Crazy Healer Lady
11-15-2008, 07:00 PM
Hi Raweater!!
Definitely the world should be made aware of its current state. In my experience, I find that gently showing this while offering alternatives, again, very gently, works best and reaches more people. It produces the most change.
I suppose it is sort of like how Mother Teresa would not attend an anti-war rally, but would attend a peace rally?
Absolutely the information you present is important. :) Perhaps you will reach more people if you offer the information in a better way? Then again, maybe not! You are reaching those who respond to information written in a way such as yours. However, don't let anger be the propelling motion :) I guess that's the heart of it. Let your intention be to help others change for the better, not anger that it is what it is.
I don't mean to act all guru on you, but just wanted to share a few tips that have worked for me thus far :) We're all students ^_^ me especially
Asian Pear
11-15-2008, 07:18 PM
Too harsh.
You can catch more flies with honey. You don't have to be extreme to get a point across - seeing positive results got me interested in raw, what got you interested in it? How would you respond to an extremist view? I once saw the statement "cooked food is poison" - it only angered me. I was led to raw by something entirely different, very positive and inspiring, and not angry or accusatory.
Not all doctors should be under attack. There are doctors in the ER that DO save lives, people coming in with heart attacks, broken bones, gunshot wounds, etc. Should those people just eat raw to immediately save themselves?
There are also doctors who don't prescribe pharmaceuticals, should they be included in a broad brushed statement?
If you come across as an extremist, you are not going to have a very wide audience.
Anyway people buying your book already have insight about the medical system, so you'd only be preaching to the choir.
raweater
11-15-2008, 07:24 PM
What got my interested in raw is seeing how dangerous and deadly cooked food is.
When I talk about doctors, I'm talkign strictly about the disease part, not the physical/trauma part where I agree they do miracles, but it does not allow them to kill up to 40,000 people per day and let others suffer and die as they currently do in exchange of profit.
Doctors that don't prescribe drugs are risking their jobs and long jail time, they are obligated to prescribe drugs for most diseases.
solarliving
11-16-2008, 10:57 AM
I understand your frustration in the system. Our society is being manipulated in the worst ways possible. It seems like a lot of the commericals are pharmaceutical drugs. The danger is the t.v. puts the brain into alpha state which is the hypnosis state.... You can see where I'm going here.
You might try giving people facts, data, statistics. This would be more effective. Comparing our society with other areas of the world is also eye opening.
rawstrength
11-16-2008, 04:31 PM
Hey, I also think it's too harsh.
Also, when you talk about food and health, I find that it really helps to frame things in terms of the positive rather than the negative. I find that people would rather be excited to get something amazing than fearful of getting something horrible.
For example, instead of writing "eating foods that cause deadly diseases along with taking pills of toxic petroleum based chemicals sold by companies who’s only interest is making profit makes sense to them, but eating healthy food is nonsense, only someone trusting a doctor would believe in such absurdity"
You may want to write "eating foods that cause vibrant energy, along with exercise, herbs, alternative medicine, laughter, and being with other people who's main interest is the pursuit of the highest goals ever and the most abundant life ever, and achieving health beyond what doctors can even comprehend"
shashibala
11-16-2008, 04:59 PM
I also think it's too much, though I know exactly what you mean! I feel sad and frustrated that so many issues that are lifestyle related cause so much suffering and people just won't look at it. If we could eliminate the lifestyle related illnesses, there would be so much more time and resources to pour into things that we don't have control over like accidental injury and trauma.
You will lead by inspiration rather than by criticism. You are already inspiring so many people just by your example!
LotsaRaw
11-16-2008, 05:40 PM
Doctors that don't prescribe drugs are risking their jobs and long jail time, they are obligated to prescribe drugs for most diseases.
I think you should get to know some more M.D.'s and D.O.'s out there personally and professionally. None of the physicians where I work dismiss the raw diet (they wish more patients would eat healthy!), nor are they prescription happy. Not all doctors can be bought by big pharma.
I second the opinion of several others here - too negative and condescending. Anyone else's proverbial chip on the shoulder is a turn off for further reading - regardless of the authenticity of the facts, it becomes comical as a result of the tone.
Positivity gets people curious! Hey, even I am OP'ing and cleansing my face with coconut oil...and 80% raw...and I am an alcohol drinking, occasional cigar smoking, sports playing, outdoors girl, NFL/NHL fan, pretty mainstream US sailor...if I can make it this far, anyone can! And I am sharing the wealth - food, information...and generating curiosity to my peers!
Asian Pear
11-16-2008, 08:54 PM
What got my interested in raw is seeing how dangerous and deadly cooked food is.
There aren't too many people who can go into a raw diet via fear mode like you.
Bringing people to raw food by setting good examples and being excited about the goodness of raw food and the results from living a clean life will work to your advantage, rather than trying to scare people to stop eating cooked.
This is how eating disorders happen. People start beating themselves up if they 'slip' or call themselves 'bad' for eating "poison".
It also could make you look like an angry raw foodist, or a militant raw foodist, the way so many vegetarians and vegans have been called after trying to guilt trip their friends and relatives about eating meat.
Remember, peace of mind is a major component for good health. It is better for one's health to be a happy SAD eater than a bitter raw foodist
raweater
11-16-2008, 09:49 PM
There aren't too many people who can go into a raw diet via fear mode like you.
Bringing people to raw food by setting good examples and being excited about the goodness of raw food and the results from living a clean life will work to your advantage, rather than trying to scare people to stop eating cooked.
This is how eating disorders happen. People start beating themselves up if they 'slip' or call themselves 'bad' for eating "poison".
It also could make you look like an angry raw foodist, or a militant raw foodist, the way so many vegetarians and vegans have been called after trying to guilt trip their friends and relatives about eating meat.
Remember, peace of mind is a major component for good health. It is better for one's health to be a happy SAD eater than a bitter raw foodist
Trying to get people to raw food by example did nothing but get me ridiculed beyond belief ("he thinks eating raw is healthy, how ridiculous" or "he eats raw because he has an incurable disease, all he has to do is take drugs"). Those who have converted to raw were by showing them how dangerous conventional medical treatments are, the diseases that are a direct result of many cooked foods, and the benefits of raw food.
I myself am only 75% raw or so and some of the 25% cooked I eat is far more dangerous than smoking, but I tell myself that my 75% raw cancels it out. However, I am noticing that most cooked foods I eat do cause me various health problems every single time I eat them (cooked rice = diahrea, raw cheese = acne, etc.), so I am going to eliminate them.
By the way if some of you have missed it I have clearly said that I will not include the quote in my original post, so if that's what you're talking about, it will not be included in my book.
What I will include are facts about the health care system, drugs, governement, etc. Are these what you are saying are bad or were you referring to my quote? How is it bad to make people aware of the most dangerous and deadly thing on this planet ("health care" systems which are the #1 cause of death and disease).
And I have to disagree with your last sentence, not many SAD eaters remain happy for very long, as disease is inevitable on a SAD diet, it's just a question of time. Most of my familly, especially those with friends that are doctors, are suffering from many diseases and living in fear of when they will have their heart attack or cancer, as they know it is comming. How is living in such fear while eating food that is causing these diseases and taking drugs that accelerate death healthier?
Apasaraw
11-17-2008, 09:20 AM
Interesting article on MDs supporting diet and exercise over statin use in the long run.
http://www.boston.com/news/health/articles/2008/11/17/options_beyond_statins/
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