Nutrional value of raw plant food

[mongodelight]

Regular normal fruits like orange, apple, banana are totally deficient in minerals
Greens are also deficient in minerals but if u eat 5 lbs its ok.

I looked on a nutrional calculator and it seems like that all regular supermarket food is totally deficient in minerals and trace minerals.

Wild plants grow near or underneath of trees which make the soil much richer in minerals, because they drop their leafes every year and soak minerals from 10 or 20 meters under the ground in its leafes.

High quality organic green food comes close to the mineral amount which is recommend of you eat very much of it.

Solutions would be:

seasalt, other natural salts
organic, much, and big variety of dark veggies
big variety of fatty fruits, nuts and seeds
wild food that grows on or underneath of trees
super foods

With the supermarket raw food, also if its organic, u dont come even close to the minerals u need. Ok if u buy the best there is and eat tons of greens and a H U G E variety. But with the standard fruits and veggies u get in the standard amount u get not enough minerals.

I am concerned about minerals. It would be not my first mineral deficiency(fruit diet for months)

[Veganforlife]

This chart might help:

http://www.healthalternatives2000.com/minerals-nutrition-chart.html

[Vaclare79]

Thanks for posting that chart. I've been tired a lot lately. I don't think I'm eating right even though it's all raw.

[RawPaw]

I'm not going to look at all of this information because I can't afford to go that route. It would just make me go back to eating SAD if I got too discouraged.

[Revvell]

If all you say is true then people who cook the life out of their food should be dead, eh?

Tim VanOrden is a world-class 40-year old athlete/tower-runner who eats all raw from the grocery store.

That's the good news.

Revvell

[Alina]

Even when we buy organic fruit and vegetables, they often grown on soil that is already depleted.

Personally, I take super blue green algae supplement that is rich in essential vitamins, amino acids, and all essential minerals and trace minerals (calcium, zinc, sodium, silicon, potassium, phosphorus, nickel, magnesium, iron, iodine, fluoride, copper, chloride, calcium, boron, etc).

Nature's oldest and best food, in my personal opinion.

[SuriPatty]

If all you say is true then people who cook the life out of their food should be dead, eh?

Tim VanOrden is a world-class 40-year old athlete/tower-runner who eats all raw from the grocery store. That's the good news.

Revvell

Thanks for this tip!
He has a very interesting website!

[Revvell]

Thanks for this tip!
He has a very interesting website!

You're welcome. Personally, I prefer farmers' markets where I can get fresher foods yet, some, in colder areas don't have this option at times.

Another thing, rather than resorting to expensive "supplements" is sprouting. So easy, so full of nutrients, so fresh.. can't really beat 'em.

You might wish to listen to my interview with Tim (http://rawkinradio.com/2008/09/09/revvell-interviews-raw-athlete-tim-van-orden/). He's been here a couple of times for my meetups. An amazing, vibrant, good looking man. He came over the first time after doing a tower run and the next day did a trail run. At 40, he's got the most amazing energy.

Revvell

[RawPaw]

Another thing, rather than resorting to expensive "supplements" is sprouting. So easy, so full of nutrients, so fresh.. can't really beat 'em.

Revvell, how big is a serving of sprouts compared to a serving of greens? Curious.

[Veganforlife]

Here's an awesome web site:

http://www.sproutpeople.com/

[Revvell]

Revvell, how big is a serving of sprouts compared to a serving of greens? Curious.

Ya got me! What are we comparing? Lettuce or kale or collards to what? Sunflower, alfalfa or clover? A serving to me is however much I feel to eat at the time.

Ever see a bag of chips? One serving = 10 chips? Um, more like one serving = one bag.

What's a serving? I am SO confused! :confused:

[RawPaw]

Ya got me! What are we comparing? Lettuce or kale or collards to what? Sunflower, alfalfa or clover? A serving to me is however much I feel to eat at the time.

Ever see a bag of chips? One serving = 10 chips? Um, more like one serving = one bag.

What's a serving? I am SO confused! :confused:

Maybe compared to a plate of spinach. I know it's hard to define.

[mongodelight]

Why does primates eat 125 different foods every year and a high amount of leafes? Definitly for a reason. We should always look for possibilities to get a richer amount of minerals. It doesnt mean that cooked food is perfect to get minerals, but it means that its not very hard to get a mineral deficieny with raw food - if u dont watch out.

But i would like to get more information to that specific subject. People who live for decades healthy on raw food would have that kind of information. They could explain what to eat (to get more minerals) and why. There should be a book about that subject. Its hard to eat the mineral amout which is recommend with ordinairy raw food.

[Revvell]

There are plenty of books on the subject and no, it's pretty hard to become mineral deficient on a raw food diet if people aren't deficient on a cooked food diet (although, I'm thinking they are deficient in ALL nutrients).

Primates eat a wide variety of leafy greens because that's what they do all day. Their work is to eat, sleep, get up and do it again. They don't go someplace and work for 8 hours in un-natural environments.

For us, we've got fruit, greens, veggies, seeds and nuts.

I'm curious. People come here and their main focus is protein OR calcium OR one particular thing. Yours seems to be minerals. Why them? Why not focus on eating a varied food program of fresh, organic as possible, whole foods?

Or, do the research and tell us what you've found as far as how TO get all these things you're afraid of not getting? Victoria Boutenko has done a great job of researching health as has Gabriel Cousens and many others. They write the book, they share their knowledge and their experiences.

There are plenty of raw food advocates who've been doing it for decades.

Revvell

[rawstrength]

Unless we are eating almost all wild foods and sprouted foods, then we are all mineral deficient. Modern food crops are bred to take up less minerals so that they don't spoil quickly. Also, our soils are mineral deficient because it has been a long time since the last glaciers covered the planet, see www.remineralize.org .
Raw foodists are way less mineral deficient than SAD eaters. SAD eaters cook all of the remaining minerals away. So by going raw you already are getting remineralized, though not fully. You do the best you can :) .
I have a lot of strategies for getting extra minerals. For one, I buy organic locally grown foods at the farmer's market. Even now, in November, in Connecticut, I am able to get apples, pumpkin, pears, cauliflower, squashes, collards, kale and lettuce. I should be able to get lettuce, parsnips and cabbage grown under a cold frame through the winter. Also, I sprout, so I get really fresh food. I eat foods that haven't been bred and tampered with by man, such as seaweeds and algae. I also forage for wild foods; right now I am enjoying tart wild apples, dandelion greens, plantain leaves, and dogwood fruit. When foods are fermented, then the yeasts and bacteria that do the fermenting contribute minerals to the food. Also, fermented foods are pre-digested, so you get all of the minerals without expending any minerals to digest them. I love kombucha, saur kraut, real pickles, miso (in moderation!), and kimchee. I don't do rejuvelac because if you make it badly, you could get sick, but that also is an option. Lastly, and most importantly, I am really, really into organic gardening. My parents have an acre of property. Right now I garden a plot of it, I hope to expand the garden to the entire acre. I treat my soil really well, with lots of rock dust, manure from organic farms, compost, composted seaweed, and sea water. This way, I can grow the most mineral rich foods on the planet :) .

[Teraw]

There are so many things I want to say. I'm all for understandig new information that can HELP me in whatever direction is healthiest. You have come to a RAW Food website throwing around the idea that we are deficient in minerals. How many cooked food websites have you posted this into? If we are deficient, then I pray for the souls of people who don't eat a natural as we do. I have been raw twice and this time for 5 weeks and I have cured asthma, allergies, eczema, acne, bacterial vaginosis, and a UTI. ALL of these diseases can into my life when I began to eat more cooked food. When I was growing up, we ate lots of salads, but when I went off to college I ate everything cooked. Since raw I have reversed everything my Dr. told me that I would live with 4ever. SO Ha to you and him. I feel great! The only way I would feel any better is if I was raised raw and never knew what cooked food was like. I dislike the smell of it....it's dead!

So like one of my fellow rawbies has already said, come back after you have researched, ( not just critisized), and post positive information for our Society of nature loving individuals.

Seriously! STOP posting unreserched information here b/c we have people conerting from SAD food everyday. It is not an easy transition, but many are giving it all they have. Your post could easily cause sum1 in a weak moment to eat dead food and regret it later. Like my grandmother said....If you don't have anything nice to say.............

[rawstrength]

Teraw - I don't think that mongodelight was criticizing the raw food diet, but rather pointing out a concern that we need to be aware of. Clearly, because we are on a raw food board, we all want to be as healthy and as fully mineralized as we can be. I don't find mongodelight's post to be discouraging of a raw food diet at all, as he never said that raw foods have less minerals than cooked foods.
Also, I am open to all kinds of information, be it personal experience or scientific research, and I'm glad that all kinds can be found on this board.

[RawHeaven]

Hmmm, I think I will keep on eating what feels right for my body. I know I'm getting enough of everything I need. Not in measuring it, but in believing it. Exceptional health extends beyond physical food but also has a lot to do with your internal belief systems. I learned this when I demolished my leg and was told I wouldn't walk properly again. None of that was true. I kept seeing myself well and strong and healed. What's this got to do with mineral content in food? It's the same energy - if you believe you are getting enough minerals you will. If you want to measure everything and drive yourself nuts for the rest of your life be my guest. Everything is possible and our bodies are incredible. The fact that we're still breathing is a testament to that considering how we used to treat our bodies. ;)

I know I'm healthy.

I know I'm strong.

I know I eat great food that supports my body, mind, spirit and soul.

This is all I need to know. :) Yes.

[Revvell]

Ahhh yes, and I have "believed" numerous times that cooked pizza everyday was a healthy food. That didn't prove to be true. :rolleyes:

[RawHeaven]

The key is being conscious of it.

[dorien]

Hi,

Yeah, plants only have what is in the soil.

As a guideline, about 50% of your diet should be green leaves. They contain nearly everything!