How do I get more protein?

[juliesvoyage2]

The trainer saw the foods I have eaten this week and is concerned that I am not getting enough protein, besides the edamame that I eat. So, what are some tips for getting protein when eating raw?

Thanks for your help!

[coco]

there is protein in everthing, lettuce, oranges, everything. sprouted nuts and seeds and lentils are high in protein. if you are really concerned you can input your daily diet at fitday.com for a run down of what you are getting in what quanitities. and suggest your trainer read The China Study. from what i have gathered an excess of protein is actually very damaging to the body so he or she may want to revisit that belief.

[raweater]

As coco said anything in it's natural state has protein, many plants have far more protein than beef. I workout to gain weight and have put on 30 lbs, almost all of which is muscle, eating about 98% vegan and 75% raw. I get most of my protein (and calories) from walnuts which have as much protein as beef. It's also important to understand you only need half the protein when your food is raw.

[MelissaO]

Avocado, raw nuts, and olives are good.

[Inca_faerie]

Raw hemp protein is a great concentrated protien source. I eat mine right out of the bag, it tastes best on it's own not mixed with anything. To tell if it's raw the label should say cold milled or cold processed.

[lafsalot]

Might want to check out Alissa's protein thread in "Need to Know More About Raw" forum - http://rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?t=3296

Cathy

[rawstrength]

Spirulina is mostly protein.
Green leafy veggies are all full of the amino acids that make up protein.
Just for your information, edamame is not raw.

[raweater]

Raw hemp protein is a great concentrated protien source. I eat mine right out of the bag, it tastes best on it's own not mixed with anything. To tell if it's raw the label should say cold milled or cold processed.

Hemp protein is a refined product, like refined sugar, except it's refined protein. You do not need any man made protein like this and it's healthier to avoid it. I eat only whole foods and have put on 30 lbs, most of which is muscle.

[Blazin'Jane]

All these folks are right, and I am just now reading John Robbins diet for a New America, wherein he stresses that in America it's close to impossible to get less than enough protein unless you just eat junk all day. Keep eating lots of leafy greans, toss in some spirulina and hemp seed periodically, and you'll have more than enough protein. :)

[Revvell]

Avocado, raw nuts, and olives are good.

.... if you're into fat. Best sources of protein are dark, leafy greens yet, as has been stated, there are amino acids in every raw food you eat. You'd be hard put to not get "enough" protein ~ whatever that means.

Ask you trainer if s/he cookes his/her food. IF so, where would s/he be getting their nutrients since they kill them with cooking.

[raweater]

Dark leafy greens may have a lot of protein per calorie, but they have very little calories or protein since they are about 90% water. For example an entire box of spinach has about 20 calories and 1 gram of protein. It would only take 1-2 nuts to get as much protein and far more calories.

I'm not saying leafy greens aren't good, they are essential for good health, but you would have to eat boxes and boxes of them per day to get any significant amount of protein, to me they are mostly a source of vitamins, not protein, unless you can afford the time and money to eat pounds and pounds of them daily.

[goobygirl]

I'd ask the trainer how the gorilla gets enough protein everyday..... i believe they do eat some insects, but for the most part, they do munch a lot on greens.

You do not have to eat protein its more highly refined state: what you have to eat is amino acids. Protein that is taken in is broken down into its basic state, amino acids. Eating raw gets you eating the basic building blocks that you need and puts less strain on your digestive system.

You can gather the amino acids from a wide variety of foods. Protein is a big myth, that we need so much of it. A baby needs mother's milk while it is growing and needs only about .9% protein (which is the protein content of mother's milk). Why do adults think that they need so much more? I think it's overrated.

[Inca_faerie]

Hemp protein is a refined product, like refined sugar, except it's refined protein. You do not need any man made protein like this and it's healthier to avoid it. I eat only whole foods and have put on 30 lbs, most of which is muscle.

Yeah. Ok. NO. You can get non gmo organic cold milled (raw) hemp protein. Man made?? um, ok I guess a few mad scientists got together in the lab one day and decided to invent that freaky synthetic thing called "the hemp seed"!!:eek: like refined sugar?? Give me a break. Seriously. Ever since I added raw hemp protein into my diet, I feel better, stronger and more energized and that's why I'm recommending it. That's great that you put on 30 lbs of muscle. A lot of people however do not WANT to put on 30 pounds of muscle or eat 3000-5000 cals a day to do it, they perhaps just want to tone up a bit while losing fat at the same time. Also one of the main protein sources on raw is nut's, which contain a lot of fat which some people like myself don't do well on. That's why I use the raw hemp protein it cut's out the middleman and get's right to the source of what I want. Raw vegan protein.

Protein needs vary greatly from person to person. There is no set standard. I feel best when I get 40-60 grams per day, other people feel great with less.

This lifestyle is hugely about diversity and individual needs. You've gotta play around a bit and find what's best for you.

[srsarri]

Nicely said Inca - Nuts make me feel like CRAP, and I have been doing WONDERFUL with leafy greens and some occasional raw hemp protein powder in my smoothie! I dont really like the taste but it usually gives me a very sustainable boost! Otherwise im fine with a lower protein intake! All fruits and veggies have a spek of protein in them at the least, I eat so much fresh stuff I dont need to worry about it. I have monitered my diet on fitday before and I get Waaayyy more protein then needed!

and I would be REALLY mad at myself if I gained 30lbs just for protein! EEEEEEKKKK!!!!!!!!!!

But!!!! congrats raweater! your goal was to gain weight and you are!

[Veganforlife]

Might want to check out Alissa's protein thread in "Need to Know More About Raw" forum - http://rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?t=3296

Cathy

Yup. Read this. It's good stuff.............

[Blossom]

After having bloodwork done my doctor told me my protein levels were too low due to "my diet" maybe? or is every one else's too high?:confused:

[Veganforlife]

After having bloodwork done my doctor told me my protein levels were too low due to "my diet" maybe? or is every one else's too high?:confused:

Me personally? I don't put much faith in doctors. They are NOT nutritionists and every BODY is different. That's why it amazes me that the OTC meds are geared to everyone taking the same dose. That is crazy!

Your protein levels may be fine for you. How do you feel?

[Revvell]

After having bloodwork done my doctor told me my protein levels were too low due to "my diet" maybe? or is every one else's too high?:confused:

I would ask "compared to what?"

I don't go to doctors... been about 27 years now. If they knew anything about nutrition besides the propaganda they're told.... Give him/her "The China Study" and tell him/her to read up on protein.

[Blossom]

I have no protien deficiency symptoms in fact my muscles plump amazingly fast with weighs (small girly one's of course) I done a few sets of chest exercises last week and looked as if I had a boob job!

[juliesvoyage2]

edamame is not raw.

Thanks for correcting me on this. Since it came right out of the pod, in a fresh and not frozen bag, I thought it was raw. Here I thought I had done so well staying raw. :(

[juliesvoyage2]

By the way, where do I buy spirulina and raw hemp protein?

[RawKnitster]

I've been converted to chia seeds. I've been using 1-2 tablespoons of seeds almost every day for about two weeks. I'm feeling stronger and better than ever. Coincidence??

Mix 1 part chia seeds and 9 parts water in a jar. Shake 3 -4 times in the first 30 minutes to avoid clumping. Store in the fridge for up to 2 weeks. The seeds absorb water and make a gel. I put the mixture in green smoothies, and juices. I prefer it over hemp. It does not alter the taste of the food you put it in. It is a water soluble fiber. I do like hemp seeds occasionally, but hemp powder is far to dry a fiber for me to use more than a tablespoon at a day.

There are many benefits from adding chia seeds to a raw diet. Here are two paragraphs from a long article I found about them on a google search. (I won't post the link as it is another raw website.)


As a source of protein, the Chia, after ingestion, is digested and absorbed very easily. This results in rapid transport to the tissue and utilization by the cells. This efficient assimilation makes the Chia very effective when rapid development of tissue takes place, primarily during growth periods if children and adolescents. Also for the growth and regeneration of tissue during pregnancy and lactation, and this would also include regeneration of muscle tissue for conditioning, athletes, weight lifters, etc.

Another unique quality if the Chia seed is its high oil content, and the richest vegetables source for the essential omega-3 fatty acid. It has approximately three to ten times the oil concentrations of most grains and one and a half to two times the protein concentrations of other grains. These oils, unsaturated fatty acids, are the essential oils your body needs to help emulsify and absorb the fat soluble vitamins, A, D, E, & K. Chia seeds are rich in the unsaturated fatty acid, linoleic, which the body cannot manufacture. When there are rich amounts of linoleic acid sufficiently supplied to the body trough diet, linoleic and arachidonic acids can be synthesized from linoleic acid

[RawKnitster]

By the way, where do I buy spirulina and raw hemp protein?

I find those and chia seeds in some health food stores and in the natural health section of organic grocery stores.

[Marin Mom]

I have no protien deficiency symptoms in fact my muscles plump amazingly fast with weighs (small girly one's of course) I done a few sets of chest exercises last week and looked as if I had a boob job!

Okay, you caught my attention! What kind of exercises did you do and did you need a bench? How heavy were the weights? :D

[raweater]

Yeah. Ok. NO. You can get non gmo organic cold milled (raw) hemp protein. Man made?? um, ok I guess a few mad scientists got together in the lab one day and decided to invent that freaky synthetic thing called "the hemp seed"!!:eek: like refined sugar?? Give me a break. Seriously. Ever since I added raw hemp protein into my diet, I feel better, stronger and more energized and that's why I'm recommending it. That's great that you put on 30 lbs of muscle. A lot of people however do not WANT to put on 30 pounds of muscle or eat 3000-5000 cals a day to do it, they perhaps just want to tone up a bit while losing fat at the same time. Also one of the main protein sources on raw is nut's, which contain a lot of fat which some people like myself don't do well on. That's why I use the raw hemp protein it cut's out the middleman and get's right to the source of what I want. Raw vegan protein.

Protein needs vary greatly from person to person. There is no set standard. I feel best when I get 40-60 grams per day, other people feel great with less.

This lifestyle is hugely about diversity and individual needs. You've gotta play around a bit and find what's best for you.

You're putting words in my mouth. I said hemp protein powder is man made, I never said hemp seeds are man made. Hemp seeds are natural, hemp protein powder is man made. Sugar cane is natural, refined white sugar is man made. Oranges are natural, orange juice is man made. You'd be far better of eating natural hemp seeds than the refined man made hemp protein powder.

Any modification to any food will make it cause disease (even juicing can lead to diabetes and other sugar related diseases because juice is not natural, it's man made), as a raw foodist you should know that. The human body was made to eat natural whole seeds, not a man made refined protein powder made from hemp seeds in some industrial processing plant.

[raweater]

After having bloodwork done my doctor told me my protein levels were too low due to "my diet" maybe? or is every one else's too high?:confused:
Take anything a doctor says and throw it in the trash, where it belongs. Doctors kill 10,000 to 40,000 people PER DAY in USA, why trust anything they say?

[raweater]

By the way, where do I buy spirulina and raw hemp protein?
As I said in my other reply I'd highly recommend getting natural whole hemp seeds over a man made product made in an industrial plant. The seeds have almost as much protein as the man made powder anyway.

[Blossom]

I have no protien deficiency symptoms in fact my muscles plump amazingly fast with weighs (small girly one's of course) I done a few sets of chest exercises last week and looked as if I had a boob job!

Okay, you caught my attention! What kind of exercises did you do and did you need a bench? How heavy were the weights? :D

So easy no equiptment apart from stairs-I stand at the bottom af my staircase find the right hight of stair to do a set of pressups at shoulder level(I do 12 ) then go one lower for another set this is harder so I do about 8-10 Always warm up your muscles first very important! I am not kidding my bust line looks sooo much bigger.

[rawstrength]

www.rawfromthefarm.com has a great deal on health for nutritionals spirulina, a reputable brand.
www.mountainroseherbs.com also has spirulina, for cheaper than raw from the farm, but I don't know if it's raw or not.

[Aleesha Sattva]

i apologize if this has already been suggested... i didn't read the thread.

bee-pollen is an excellent source of protein as is raw honey. :)

[Inca_faerie]

You're putting words in my mouth. I said hemp protein powder is man made, I never said hemp seeds are man made. Hemp seeds are natural, hemp protein powder is man made. Sugar cane is natural, refined white sugar is man made. Oranges are natural, orange juice is man made. You'd be far better of eating natural hemp seeds than the refined man made hemp protein powder.

Any modification to any food will make it cause disease (even juicing can lead to diabetes and other sugar related diseases because juice is not natural, it's man made), as a raw foodist you should know that. The human body was made to eat natural whole seeds, not a man made refined protein powder made from hemp seeds in some industrial processing plant.

Wrong. I don't think it would be humanly possible for me to disagree more. I think as a raw foodist and a person who (seems to) care about their health there are a few things that you should know. I believe you've recommended agave? hello processed. And no orange juice is not "man made" which is a term used for something invented by man, and I'm pretty sure the orange managed to occur without our interferal.

Any modification to any food will cause disease? well darn it, guess I better not whip up a green smoothie for myself in the vitamix, I might end up with gout.:rolleyes: Extremes without logic don't really work for me.

[juliesvoyage2]

bee-pollen is an excellent source of protein as is raw honey. :)

I love honey! Thanks for the suggestion. :)

[Aleesha Sattva]

you are very welcome (((hugs)))

[rawstrength]

I almost forgot my favorite . . . cacao has lots of protein. The powder the most protein, nibs have a lot, and cacao butter has no protein.

Goji berries have an incredibly high amount of protein, and contain all necessary amino acids. Which is amazing, considering that they're a fruit!

As for the greens/protein controversy, yes you have to eat a lot of greens to get significant protein from them. But it is easy to get tons of greens in juice and smoothie form. At one point, I was eating at least two pounds of greens per day, because my body was begging for them.

Now I've mellowed out my greens intake to a lesser amount. I don't need so much anymore.

Aleesha, if I were water fasting I could never write about the goodness of honey! I would end up eating half a jar of honey :p . You are a brave, strong, incredible woman! Keep up the tremendous achievements!

[raweater]

i apologize if this has already been suggested... i didn't read the thread.

bee-pollen is an excellent source of protein as is raw honey. :)

All raw honey's I've seen are 100% sugar, no fat or protein. I must say the last honey I bought does have wax and pollen in it, I didn't check the nutritional label on it but I doubt it has any significant amount of protein.

[raweater]

Wrong. I don't think it would be humanly possible for me to disagree more. I think as a raw foodist and a person who (seems to) care about their health there are a few things that you should know. I believe you've recommended agave? hello processed. And no orange juice is not "man made" which is a term used for something invented by man, and I'm pretty sure the orange managed to occur without our interferal.

Any modification to any food will cause disease? well darn it, guess I better not whip up a green smoothie for myself in the vitamix, I might end up with gout.:rolleyes: Extremes without logic don't really work for me.

Everything I said is based on logic. Agave is not really processed, it's simply the "juice" of the plant that's been extracted, it's less modified than orange juice. Hemp protein powder is severely processed, why would you not eat natural hemp seeds instead? In adition to having about as much protein to start with, you'd also get a bit of healthy fats that are essential to good health (many diseases, especially mental diseases like depression, are due to a lack of healthy fats). If orange juice is not man made then find me a orange juice tree or plant, I can't wait to see what it looks like. Does it grow the orange juice in cardboard boxes like they sell in stores? So you mean it's not an industrial plant that's squeezing oranges, pasteurizing their juice and putting it in cardboard? It grows in a cardboard box just like that?

And yes, blending anything will destroy some nutrition, a bit like cooking but to a far lesser degree so it's much more acceptable. None of what you say has any logic and yet you claim I don't have logic. Are you new to raw foods?

[raweater]

Begin sarcasm

Well looks like you were right, orange juice is completely natural and actually grows on trees pre packaged and pre pasteurized:
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[Inca_faerie]

Everything I said is based on logic. Agave is not really processed, it's simply the "juice" of the plant that's been extracted, it's less modified than orange juice. Hemp protein powder is severely processed, why would you not eat natural hemp seeds instead? In adition to having about as much protein to start with, you'd also get a bit of healthy fats that are essential to good health (many diseases, especially mental diseases like depression, are due to a lack of healthy fats). If orange juice is not man made then find me a orange juice tree or plant, I can't wait to see what it looks like. Does it grow the orange juice in cardboard boxes like they sell in stores? So you mean it's not an industrial plant that's squeezing oranges, pasteurizing their juice and putting it in cardboard? It grows in a cardboard box just like that?

And yes, blending anything will destroy some nutrition, a bit like cooking but to a far lesser degree so it's much more acceptable. None of what you say has any logic and yet you claim I don't have logic. Are you new to raw foods?

First of all I was not talking about pasturized orange juice, I meant fresh which is certianly not man made. Why do I choose to eat hemp protein powder over the seeds? I explained that in a previous post. In order to get the same amount of protein from the seeds as you would from powder you would need to consume a LOT of fat, which I've previously said quite a few people including myself do not feel well on.

An extremely high ratio of polyunsaturated fat's can also lead to free radical damage since they are prone to oxidation more so than any other fat, not to mention possible unwanted fat gain. You seem to have a problem with hemp protein simply because of the fact that it isn't as you would find it in nature, but you can't give a single reason as to why it would possibly be unhealthy...that's logical?

About the smoothie I also disagree with that. By blending it the nutrients inside the fruit/plant cells are more available to the body and are absorbed faster and better through the intestinal walls. Am I new to raw? Cute.;) No I've been 70-100 % for a little over 1 and a half years in total.

[raweater]

Orange juice is man made, or processed if you prefer. Orange juice causes diabetes since it causes a spike in insulin just like white sugar. Oranges in their natural state do not do this. If you don't do well on fat you should be getting your protein from leafy greens, fruits, and vegetables, not from a highly processed food coming out of an industrial plant.

One doctor explains why processed (if you don't like the term man made) foods like refined protein, refined sugar, and refined oils are bad. Nature created those foods as they are because that's how they are meant to be consumed, only arrogant humans would argue that processing food in an industrial plant could possibly make it healthier. I did say that in the case of hemp protein you're lacking the healthy fats that come with it, and you couldn't be getting much fat anyway. Whole foods have an array of nutrients and sometimes anti nutrients that balance each other out, that's why pharmaceuticals, which are a selected extract of just one component, similar to refined hemp protein, cause a wide range of fatal diseases while the whole food prevents those diseases. Natural whole oranges prevent cancer, but extracted vitamin C in it's refined form doubles cancer rates.

About the smoothie, when it's blending you're whipping in tons of air causing oxidation, and the fact that the nutrients are absorbed faster is the problem. It causes a spike in insulin levels, and the vitamins are released all at once, rather than over a period of time to be used between meals as nature intended.

If you think modifying your food as much as possible makes it healthier, then why aren't you eating cooked food? Based on your "logic" it would be the healthiest thing ever.

[Revvell]

Agave is not really processed, it's simply the "juice" of the plant that's been extracted, it's less modified than orange juice.

O.k., taking an orange and juicing it is more processed than agave? I don't think so. It's "simply the juice of the fruit".

http://www.fromsadtoraw.com/Misc/AgaveNectar.htm


About the smoothie, when it's blending you're whipping in tons of air causing oxidation, and the fact that the nutrients are absorbed faster is the problem. It causes a spike in insulin levels, and the vitamins are released all at once, rather than over a period of time to be used between meals as nature intended.....Orange juice causes diabetes since it causes a spike in insulin just like white sugar.

Yeah, "tons"... Guess Vitoria Boutenko and her researching is all wrong then. Guess Lucy healing herself with smoozies is lying. Guess Storm whose who family eats oranges and drinks the juice thereof should be diabetic. I'd better tell them. :rolleyes:

[SheLovesToEat]

O.k., taking an orange and juicing it is more processed than agave? I don't think so. It's "simply the juice of the fruit".

http://www.fromsadtoraw.com/Misc/AgaveNectar.htm



Yeah, "tons"... Guess Vitoria Boutenko and her researching is all wrong then. Guess Lucy healing herself with smoozies is lying. Guess Storm whose who family eats oranges and drinks the juice thereof should be diabetic. I'd better tell them. :rolleyes:

i think what raweater is trying to say about oranges is that if you eat the whole orange you are not getting as much juice as you would if you drink the juice of oranges. if you drank the juice from 5 oranges but instead were eating the whole fruit maybe you would only get the juice of 2 because eating the whole fruit is going to limit your consumption of the juice because eating whole oranges is more filling. so that would limit the sugar intake from the juice.

[raweater]

O.k., taking an orange and juicing it is more processed than agave? I don't think so. It's "simply the juice of the fruit".

http://www.fromsadtoraw.com/Misc/AgaveNectar.htm



Yeah, "tons"... Guess Vitoria Boutenko and her researching is all wrong then. Guess Lucy healing herself with smoozies is lying. Guess Storm whose who family eats oranges and drinks the juice thereof should be diabetic. I'd better tell them. :rolleyes:

You really seem to like to take my examples, twist my words and push them to the extreme. Like in my example of nuts being able to cut grocery cost, you pretended as if I recommended eating nothing but walnuts, and I never said that and anyone eating nothing but walnuts would get sick quite fast. I said that adding walnuts would reduce your grocery cost.

You're doing the same here, I clearly said the damage of blending is extremely minimal, yet you pretend that I said it's as dangerous as cooking. Please do not twist my words into nonsense.

[raweater]

i think what raweater is trying to say about oranges is that if you eat the whole orange you are not getting as much juice as you would if you drink the juice of oranges. if you drank the juice from 5 oranges but instead were eating the whole fruit maybe you would only get the juice of 2 because eating the whole fruit is going to limit your consumption of the juice because eating whole oranges is more filling. so that would limit the sugar intake from the juice.
That's in part it, but another problem with juice is that it's stripped from the fiber and the fiber causes the sugar to be released slowly over a period of time, when it's juiced and stripped of the fiber you get a sugar spike because the fiber that should be there to slow down the release of sugar into the blood is no longer there.

[Revvell]

i think what raweater is trying to say about oranges is that if you eat the whole orange you are not getting as much juice as you would if you drink the juice of oranges.

This IS what he said:


Agave is not really processed, it's simply the "juice" of the plant that's been extracted, it's less modified than orange juice.

No one has to change his/her words around. I'm just repeating what is said here. Anyone can read it.

[raweater]

What I mean is that agave is not stripped of fibers, orange juice is which causes a more rapid sugar spike than oranges in their natural state.

[Inca_faerie]

Orange juice is man made, or processed if you prefer. Orange juice causes diabetes since it causes a spike in insulin just like white sugar. Oranges in their natural state do not do this. If you don't do well on fat you should be getting your protein from leafy greens, fruits, and vegetables, not from a highly processed food coming out of an industrial plant.

One doctor explains why processed (if you don't like the term man made) foods like refined protein, refined sugar, and refined oils are bad. Nature created those foods as they are because that's how they are meant to be consumed, only arrogant humans would argue that processing food in an industrial plant could possibly make it healthier. I did say that in the case of hemp protein you're lacking the healthy fats that come with it, and you couldn't be getting much fat anyway. Whole foods have an array of nutrients and sometimes anti nutrients that balance each other out, that's why pharmaceuticals, which are a selected extract of just one component, similar to refined hemp protein, cause a wide range of fatal diseases while the whole food prevents those diseases. Natural whole oranges prevent cancer, but extracted vitamin C in it's refined form doubles cancer rates.

About the smoothie, when it's blending you're whipping in tons of air causing oxidation, and the fact that the nutrients are absorbed faster is the problem. It causes a spike in insulin levels, and the vitamins are released all at once, rather than over a period of time to be used between meals as nature intended.

If you think modifying your food as much as possible makes it healthier, then why aren't you eating cooked food? Based on your "logic" it would be the healthiest thing ever.



Juicing an orange does not make it "made made" but if you think it does, well whatever makes you happy. Don't tell me what I should and should not be doing please. I've already explained why I choose to use raw hemp protein. The main reason being that I want to avoid racking up unnecessary fats and sugars whilst getting straight to the source of what I want. In order to get the same amount of protein from kale or spinach for example I would have to eat boxes full of leafy greens.

Your basis that all processed foods are the same regardless of their source or method of processing is to me indeed, illogical! (the word of the day;)) and just a wee bit assanine. You go on to compare a raw hemp product to synthetic vitamin c, at this point the incredulous look on my face has raised my eyebrows so high, they're now at the back of my head somewhere. Comparing different compounds and methods of extraction to each other suggesting that they all end in the same result, equals imo, no sense at all.

The smoothie. On one hand there is slightly increased oxidation caused by blending, which ends up being irrelivant due to the antioxidants present becoming more available after blending. About the insulin spike, the fibers present in the smoothie help to prevent that, and besides it takes me about 5 minutes to drink a green smoothie rather than knocking it down in one go, thereby also preventing an insulin spike.

I said nothing about modifying food as much as possible (now who's putting words in who's mouth?) I enjoy the best of both worlds, what mother nature gives me in it's unchanged form, and also what technology provides me with for the benefit of my health. Cooked food and a product that is the result of cold extraction are hardley the same at all. While cooked food undergoes many chemical changes such as fat/protien mutation and damage and glycation (something you might want to look into being such a fan of agave) Raw hemp protein undergoes none of these changes. You still haven't given me a reason for which your basing your claims on that raw hemp protein specificaly is somehow unhealthy, except of course, that you don't like machines.

Anyway I'm out, I have to find my socks (and my eyebrows) Have a nice night. (I mean that really):)

[meinleben]

raweater...your posts are not accurate in terms of MANY things....

also...nuts are a fat source...not a protein....30 pounds of muscle is something that takes professional body builders 10 years or more...30 pounds of muscle is ASTOUNDING....

to help with blood sugar levels...it would be helpful to combine foods properly...no fats and sugars...

when people cut out fats completely for some time, there blood sugars actually improve quickly and dramatically....it is the fat that traps the sugars in the blood and does not allow it to go to the cells = blood sugar problems

[SmilingRawDancer]

nuts are a fat source...not a protein
I couldn't agree more, and I get tired of people telling me to eat nuts for protein. I eat nuts because they're yummy! :) I get protein/amino acids from everything else :)

[rawstrength]

Nuts have no more or less protein than other raw foods. They're about average. Almonds have the most calories from protein among all nuts. So yes, you can get protein from nuts; however, keep in mind that nuts are mostly fat.

[raweater]

raweater...your posts are not accurate in terms of MANY things....

also...nuts are a fat source...not a protein....30 pounds of muscle is something that takes professional body builders 10 years or more...30 pounds of muscle is ASTOUNDING....


How are they inaccurate?

I put on 30 lbs in about 6 months, it's not all muscle but probably 25 lbs of it is.

Yes nuts have a lot of fat, but they also have a lot of protein (as much as red meat), they are a source of both.

[raweater]

Nuts have no more or less protein than other raw foods. They're about average. Almonds have the most calories from protein among all nuts. So yes, you can get protein from nuts; however, keep in mind that nuts are mostly fat.

I don't quite understand. You need about 4-6 cups of spinach for 1 gram of protein, you only need 2-4 nuts for as much protein. So are you talking in terms of protein per calorie rather than per volume? If so that may be true, but with the amount of calories I need I need dense foods like nuts otherwise it would be extremely hard if not impossible, both financially and in terms of time, to get my 4000 calories a day.

[rawstrength]

I don't quite understand. You need about 4-6 cups of spinach for 1 gram of protein, you only need 2-4 nuts for as much protein. So are you talking in terms of protein per calorie rather than per volume? If so that may be true, but with the amount of calories I need I need dense foods like nuts otherwise it would be extremely hard if not impossible, both financially and in terms of time, to get my 4000 calories a day.

Yes, I'm talking about in terms of calories. Spinach has 50% calories from protein, nuts have only 20% calories from protein. Of course a cup of nuts will have more protein than a cup of spinach, because nuts are much denser than spinach! Spinach is mostly fiber, water, and air.

[raven]

I believe raw nuts and seeds are a good source of amino acids and, when properly soaked and used in a moderation, are a good addition to the diet. I don't think we can all agree on everything and we also have to acknowledge that there are different strokes for different folks. While this board has a large membership, there are still very few raw foodists in the world and we're here to support one another, not to be in total agreement. I think Raweater made a lot of valid points. There are purists who prefer to eat foods in their whole, natural state, rather than denaturing them through processing. Foods do oxidize when they are ground or blended. I couldn't venture to say how nutritionally significant this process is. We all have to make the best informed decisions for ourselves.

As far as Storm and his family drinking large amounts of fresh orange juice, bear in mind that they live in a warm climate and are extremely active. Fit and active people with a lot of muscle mass can probably handle more sugar than less active people. In fact, the founder of Bikram yoga claims he can eat anything at all because his metabolism is so efficient. I wouldn't suggest doing that but having good digestion with a large amount of healthy bacteria in the gut, is essential. There are many factors which go into building a healthy, strong body.

Suzy

[SmilingRawDancer]

the founder of Bikram yoga claims he can eat anything at all because his metabolism is so efficient

just to nit-pick, that would make his metabolism innefficient if he burns off everything that fast. If you think about it, that will make sense. In ancient times the creatures who required more food might not last as long in a famine as those with an efficient metabolism - meaning one who burns fewer calories.

[raven]

Tonya Zavasta states that burning more slowly is a key to anti-aging.

[SmilingRawDancer]

And I agree...it's just lame though because I can't eat all these calorie-laden raw treats and stay lean :(

[Raspberry4]

Does anyone have a source for hemp seeds that are not heated? Thanks :)