gardasil vaccine

[rawstrength]

I've had the first two shots of the gardasil vaccine, and I am scheduled to get the third and final shot in November.
But now I am more educated about the risks of vaccination, and I don't want to get the third shot. Is it safe to forgo the third shot when you've already had two?
Also, will skipping the third shot really make much of a difference in my health when I've already had two? I mean, how much more harm could the third shot do now that I've had the first two?
I don't want the third shot, but I'm sure my mom would freak out if I refuse a vaccine. She'll think I've really gone off the deep end. My boyfriend never got the measles vaccine because it has eggs in it (he's a strict vegetarian, eats dairy but not eggs) and my mom thinks him and his parents are crazy. So, is it worth risking my mom's disapproval to avoid getting the shot?

[HolyGuacamole]

Well, I might not be the best one to answer because my mom's approval has always meant about this much *making tiny space between thumb and forefinger* to me because her values and mine are diametrically opposed, but...
If I were in your situation, I would forgo the last injection, bombard my mother with information explaining why, tell her that I appreciated her concern and her input, and let her deal with it.
It might be good for her.
You're an adult, right? Decisions regarding your body and your health are your right to make, not anyone else's (barring your inability to make them) - including your mom.

Furthermore, if you don't want to deal with all that, it's not really her business whether or not you take that last shot. That's not information you are obliged to offer her.

I have never been much of a dutiful daughter and I am wholly opposed to vaccinations, so bear that in mind, but if it were me, I would skip it and feel absolutely fine about it.

[Revvell]

... ditto....


Well, I might not be the best one to answer because my mom's approval has always meant about this much *making tiny space between thumb and forefinger* to me because her values and mine are diametrically opposed, but...
If I were in your situation, I would forgo the last injection, bombard my mother with information explaining why, tell her that I appreciated her concern and her input, and let her deal with it.
It might be good for her.
You're an adult, right? Decisions regarding your body and your health are your right to make, not anyone else's (barring your inability to make them) - including your mom.

Furthermore, if you don't want to deal with all that, it's not really her business whether or not you take that last shot. That's not information you are obliged to offer her.

I have never been much of a dutiful daughter and I am wholly opposed to vaccinations, so bear that in mind, but if it were me, I would skip it and feel absolutely fine about it.

[rawstrength]

So, issues with my mother aside, you both think it's a good idea not to get the last shot?
Thanks for the input!

[Raene]

I wouldn't do it either.
Funny enough, I'm not much older than you are but I have a 4 year old, and I had her vaccinated the first few times. I then stopped when I knew better.
Her current doctor thinks it's fine that she only got the first few doses and didn't finish and get the last few in the series. I'd think then if a baby's okay that way, then you are too :)

[smoothiegirl]

I've read some info about the shot being very dangerous. Eight girls have died across the country and thousands have had severe reactions that required ER admittance. Lost my info and website that I read it from, but they are not safe. I feel for the parents that lost children who were clueless to the dangers of the shot.

[HolyGuacamole]

So, issues with my mother aside, you both think it's a good idea not to get the last shot?
Thanks for the input!

Sorry for not being clear :o - yeah, if it were me, I would definitely skip the last shot, independent of the relationship issues.

[solarliving]

Listen to your instincts.

[JennaBoBenna]

oh no!! don't get the last shot! i've read so much horrible stuff about gardisil! i get so angry when i see adverts for it >:O my aunt wants to get it for my 13 y/o cousin and it breaks my heart!

and also, you're so healthy I wouldn't even worry about getting anything unless you are careless with your...endeavors...but seeing as you are a raw foodist I can tell you respect your body.

If i were you I wouldnt get the last shot. my bff got the first shot and I suggested (told, lol) that she not get the remaining shots.
I am incredibly against vaccinations if you couldn't tell, lol ! (as a kid [read: until high school] I would bawl at the word "shot"!! guess my instincts were right!)

[RawHeaven]

After seeing one of the commercials advertising this drug, I got a very bad feeling. I think it will lead to other disastrous (physical & mental) consequences yet to be seen and in years to come. Something about the brain and how it's wired to work with hormones. This all came in a flash after I saw the "cheerful" advertising geared towards young women. It felt not unlike watching older generations of women in cultures where genital mutilation is still practiced and how they cheerfully initiate young women to get their vaginas massacred. This is how I felt watching that commercial, not as extreme but it's the same energy.

I'll tell you flat out, don't get the last injection but also listen to your own intuition as well.

[RawKnitster]

I've written about my 20 year struggles with HPV on a thread about cervical cancer. HPV can cause so many problems other than cervical cancer. I don't want to go into it again here. Talk about mutilation! If I had the option to go back 20 years and take a vaccine to avoid the more than a dozen lazer surgeries and exciscions I have had, I would do it in a heartbeat.

Do I want my 15 year old daughter to get the vaccination? No. It is too new and feels wrong. I hope she has learned enough from my experiences to be careful. She can make her own decision about the vaccination when she's 18.

In your case, of course you should do what feels right. But you already made your choice. You should seriously consider following it through. One final thought before I get blasted for saying that....I do believe raw food has ended my battle with HPV.

[MelissaO]

This was actually a topic last week at our lunch table at work.

If it were me I would skip the vacine. It is just too new and there is too much contraversy with it. What always worked for me when I had a different oppinion with my Mom is this:

Research the topic, print out the facts. Write down the pro's and con's of issue and talk with your Mom with all the at hand. I did not always win all my battles but atleast I came to the table prepared and had things well thought over.

I also just heard on the news the other day that in order for people to become U.S. Citizens it is being proposed that all young females are going to be forced to have this vacine - at their own expense if they have no health insurance.....that just makes me soooooo angry:mad:

Good luck!

[lafsalot]

SKIP IT and let your Mom read this - http://rawfoodtalk.com/showthread.php?p=461000#post461000

Cathy

[raweater]

Vaccines contain mercury, aluminum, formadehyde and many other very toxic and dangerous chemicals. There is significant proof that vaccines cause thousands of diseases and deaths, the gardasil vaccine has already made thousands very sick and killed many young girls. There was also never any proof at all that any vaccines prevent any disease, there is only proof that they cause diseases and deaths.

Look at the charts I attached, it clearly shows that all vaccines where introduced when the diseases had already almost entirely vanished (due to better hygene and nutrition).

When your immune system is strong due to a raw food diet and healthy lifestyle, it is naturally immune to viruses, bacteria and germs. Bacteria and viruses do not cause disease, this is based on pasteur's debunked and false germ theory. Science has proven pasteur's theory to be completely false. Bacteria and viruses are attracted to unhealthy people and cannot infect a healthy person. Dr. Day says that saying viruses and bacteria cause disease is like saying that flies cause garbage. No, garbage attracts flies, like unhealthy people attract viruses and bacteria. The proof is there are trillions of viruses and bacteria in the air, water, our skin, our food, etc., yet only unhealthy people get sick.

I'd highly recommend Dr. Day's video "Drugs Never Cure Disease" which explains that pasteur's theory is upside down.

It's also intresting to note there's a $75,000 offer for the first doctor to orally take a vaccine (it's FAR safer to be taken orally than injected into your blood). The offer has been there for years and not one doctor has accepted it, that says a lot about vaccines and doctors.

I hope you don't take this wrong, but your mom should be ashamed of blindy trusting the most inhumane industry on earth that kills more people than anything else this world has ever seen with your life when they're only trying to sell you something and have no science whatsoever to support their claims. I suggest you show her information about the dangers of conventional medicine, drugs, and vaccines. Dr. Day's videos would also teach her a lot, unless she thinks Dr. Day is crazy because she relies on science rather than an industry trying to profit from people's diseases.

[raweater]

I wanted to add something, I have a friend who worksin the health care system, last week he got typhoid fever. Turns out he was vaccinated against that. Just another fact showing vaccines have no efficacy.

Additionally, in one study, out of 93 children that died of the flu, 60 of them had been vaccinated against it.

There is simply no proof whatsoever that vaccines have ever prevented any disease. They are based on a false theory that has never benn proven.

[solarliving]

I didn't want to say anything before, because I've had bad experiences with these sort of topics and trying to help people. Not here, but other forums I've been on. I really feel we are being controlled on the worst level possible. My feeling is that vaccines are not for the wellfare of the general public.

Here is a site you can search different vaccines and the different symptoms experienced from them. You may be surprised as to how many children actually get ill from them.

http://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/index.html

[Cabosun]

The Great HPV Vaccine Hoax Exposed!

Let your mom read this as well. Perhaps she will beging to see the light once she grasps this.
I have educated my three daughters on all of this and not one of them will ever receive another toxic vaccination!


http://www.naturalnews.com/Report_HPV_Vaccine_0.html

[rawstrength]

Wow, thanks everyone for the info!!

I know I will never convince my mom not to let me get the vaccine. On the day I'm scheduled for my doctor's appointment, I'm going to secretly skip the appointment, drive to a near by mountain, go for a nice long relaxing hike, come back and tell my mom I'm vaccinated.

[HolyGuacamole]

Wow, thanks everyone for the info!!

I know I will never convince my mom not to let me get the vaccine. On the day I'm scheduled for my doctor's appointment, I'm going to secretly skip the appointment, drive to a near by mountain, go for a nice long relaxing hike, come back and tell my mom I'm vaccinated.

Good for you. :)

[Eva]

I don't understand why you would need to lie to your mom. You're an adult making an adult decision. I have never been able to feel OK with dishonesty, but definitely not with my mom.

[Revvell]

How old are you? If you're over 18, it is your choice and you don't need to lie, deceive, etc. Lying and deception breeds lying and deception. We carry that over into our work place and other relationships. It's a bad habit.

It's YOUR body! If you choose not to put drugs in it, isn't that up to you by now?

I was 16 when I finally said "Enough!" You don't get to hit me anymore, you don't get to drag me to a church I don't want to go to anymore..." That was it! I was old enough to make my own decisions. You are too.

Live with honor and integrity. Start now.... or don't. Up to you.

Revvell


Wow, thanks everyone for the info!!

I know I will never convince my mom not to let me get the vaccine. On the day I'm scheduled for my doctor's appointment, I'm going to secretly skip the appointment, drive to a near by mountain, go for a nice long relaxing hike, come back and tell my mom I'm vaccinated.

[Veganforlife]

I agree. Lying, deceiving, etc. = not good.

Educate. Educate others around you.

Education NOT medication.

[RawHeaven]

Remember it's your body Rawstrength, not your Mom's. Lots of love to you and I hope everything falls into place. You're an amazing and wise young woman. Adult or not I think some of us forget what it really feels like to be 18. I'm 45 and still dealing with mother stuff and standing my ground. The mother/daughter relationship is one of the toughest and at the same time the most fulfilling in the world. They know how to work it and can get under your skin. :) My Mom was cool about most things concerning my choices and I made it known that I was doing my own thing most of the time, but I'm sure there were times when I just went along with the program for peace's sake. Your body is an entirely different category though and one where you should stand your ground. I just wanted to write and say I vaguely remember the feeling of 18 and dealing with (all knowing) older adults. Easier said than done on the Mom front, but you keep persevering girl.

[daprovic]

oh no!! don't get the last shot! i've read so much horrible stuff about gardisil! i get so angry when i see adverts for it >:O my aunt wants to get it for my 13 y/o cousin and it breaks my heart!

and also, you're so healthy I wouldn't even worry about getting anything unless you are careless with your...endeavors...but seeing as you are a raw foodist I can tell you respect your body.

If i were you I wouldnt get the last shot. my bff got the first shot and I suggested (told, lol) that she not get the remaining shots.
I am incredibly against vaccinations if you couldn't tell, lol ! (as a kid [read: until high school] I would bawl at the word "shot"!! guess my instincts were right!)

Hi Jenna, what is a BFF?

[daprovic]

rawstrength, I understand you for not knowing about the dangers of vaccination prior to your Gardasil shots. Now that you are educated about the subject, I don't see how you could consciously take that third shot.
As far concerning your mother, someone talked about education, not medication NOR deception. I would print her Mike Adam's article about the Gardasil vaccine, along with two or three studies showing the uselessness and dangers of Gardasil, and raweaters' chart on vaccinations as well. I'd have her read all the information and get back to her to discuss (not debate) the subject based on knowledge, not fears and opinions. Also, prepare yourself for the discussion, by thoroughly analyzing her arguments and preparing rebuttals to them beforehand.
Furthermore, as someone else stated, you're a beautiful and healthy raw girl, your body can take care of itself against disease.

[JennaBoBenna]

Hi Jenna, what is a BFF?

:) "best friend forever"