Vegan or raw

[freshlight]

Hi folks,


have any of you had the following experience: you are raw since years, then you suddenly eat something salty, like I recently did, and notice that you feel much better since then.

What happened after that? Did you carry on with your new vegan diet or did you return back to raw?

Did any of you ever suffer from "lack of salt"?

I am looking forward to your answers :)

Take care,

Eva


http://fresh-and-raw.blogspot.com/


http://rohundfroh.blogspot.com/

[SuriPatty]

Maybe you needed the salt.


Hi folks,


have any of you had the following experience: you are raw since years, then you suddenly eat something salty, like I recently did, and notice that you feel much better since then.

What happened after that? Did you carry on with your new vegan diet or did you return back to raw?

Did any of you ever suffer from "lack of salt"?

I am looking forward to your answers :)

Take care,

Eva


http://fresh-and-raw.blogspot.com/


http://rohundfroh.blogspot.com/

[Revvell]

Um, I'm confused. What's eating something salty got to do with being vegan or raw or not?

What new vegan diet are you talking about?

You feel to add salt and stay raw, there's no contradiction that I see.

I'm REALLY confused here. :confused:

[Raw Yogini]

You can have salt w/ a raw vegan diet. It sounds like you need some salt and you don't have to give up being raw vegan for salt.

[freshlight]

wow, these are really interesting answers! Thanks a lot for taking your time for me :)

All the books I've read were telling me that the raw diet is just pure fruit&veg with a tiny bit of nuts every now and then...

In some of them it said that salt is an addiction and that as soon as you eat a bit of it it takes you back to your bad habits, that's why I thought it's easier to become a "perfect" rawie, instead of making fool compromises.

Anyway, I would still like to know, whether any of you went from raw to vegan and are still happy about it. Or is this 100% raw place?



Take care,

Eva :)


http://fresh-and-raw.blogspot.com/


http://rohundfroh.blogspot.com/

[ferg]

you don't have to be 100% raw to be raw... in fact, I've read from certain experts that if you are 60% raw, you are considered to be a raw foodist.

Some days I'm 100% raw, some days I have something cooked... such as
homemade fries, w/coco oil and sea salt, steamed veggies or a sweet potato. Which I feel no different eating these things a few times a week.

Its when your eating chips/chocolate/pasta/wheat and that sort of thing that you would really have an ill effect, in my opinion anyhow.

I've been doing the raw thing for over 3 years now... I was 100% for the first 6 months... and still 100% 5 days out of 7... but haven't been 100% vegan, I've induldged from time to time in raw cheeses and honey, but we're forbidden to talk about any animal products here, so I will say no more.

[Veganforlife]

Hey there. It's not a totally 100% raw "place". We try, but every BODY is different and requires different measures.

Do you have Alissa's book and DVDs? I strongly suggest getting them and learning from them; or ask here, but like Revvell, I'm also way confused... :confused:

[Revvell]

Anyway, I would still like to know, whether any of you went from raw to vegan and are still happy about it. Or is this 100% raw place?


O.k., you're confusing raw and cooked. Adding salt does not make one non-raw... eating cooked food does, depending on one's definition. Vegan is w/out animal products.

This is a raw (uncooked) vegan (no animal products taken internally) board. The ultimate outcome for many is to be 100% raw vegan but that's not necessary to be here.

[Riiiya]

i eat salt..perhaps a lot of it. BUT it is only celtic sea salt..i feel like i truly needed sometimes- it's like a powerfhouse of miiiineraaals!!! :eek::D it doesn't seem to affect me negatively in any way :)

[Eva]

Ha! There are fruitarians out there that will only eat fruit that has just fallen off the try by itself. And I guess there are all sorts of raw definitions.

I use Himalayan Sea Salt and most definitely consider myself to be a raw foodist. My definition of being a raw foodist is not eating cooked food. And for me I also do not engage in raw animal products. Yuck.

I have nuts, seeds, sprouted seeds and beans, fruits, veggies, and various herbs and spices. I also have the occasional warm herbal tea that is more than 118 or whatever degrees.

[Crazy Healer Lady]

Salt is necessary for the body to function properly. Without salt, your body gives out. You die. Many veggies have salt in them, but for many people it's not enough. There was a time when salt was worth more than gold by many times. These days of abundance, we overdo it. There is a misconception about salt. It's good for you, but not when you eat it by the pound or heat it to 1,200F and iodize it. OK iodization saved many from thyroid problems and I'm thankful for it, but it's not necessary with a good diet.

[debilana]

I am all raw and I love salt. I also love chocolate, dyhydrated stuff,all the controversial stuff. I know that in a few years I will probably not feel a need for as much of it, but as far as I am concerned a bit of celtic sea salt is a good thing if you crave it- much better than a bag o chips!

everyone writing a book or teaching has a different idea of raw, but really it is up to YOU to come up with what works for you. I have read probably 50 of these books now and I do what feels best. Everyone has good ideas, so I take what I need from each book and move on. Life is about different ideas, not just one raw teacher saying we all have to eat nothing but what they eat.

[freshlight]

hey Revvel,

I'm not confusing anything at all: I just wanted to know whether anyone went from raw vegan to vegan (which means WITH cooked food as well) and is still happy about it. I know what vegan means.

Anyway, take care,

Eva :)

O.k., you're confusing raw and cooked. Adding salt does not make one non-raw... eating cooked food does, depending on one's definition. Vegan is w/out animal products.

This is a raw (uncooked) vegan (no animal products taken internally) board. The ultimate outcome for many is to be 100% raw vegan but that's not necessary to be here.

[freshlight]

Hey folks,


this is very interesting: the american raw scene seems to be completely different from the one in Europe.

I quite love your relaxed attitude though!

Thanks for your answers, guys :D

They helped me a lot. If anyone else got anything interesting to add--> feel free! I'm looking forward to reading them all ;)

Take care,

Eva

[Eva]

Hey Eva -- I think you've got it dead on, except the raw community in the UK seems to be more "lax" like it is in the USA. Here in Hungary, the woman who is sort of leading the way (her website is www.nyersetel.hu -- which means raw food in Hungarian), lived in the States for awhile. So that's where she heard about raw food. People who are just hearing about it are not getting the super strict and difficult take on it.

I have met a woman here, though (who was not raw), who was SHOCKED that I had a SMALL piece of a chocolate-covered banana after something with nuts. She was wondering if I was breaking the raw food police code by doing bad food combining. I told her I would not explode and would still be healthy even if I wasn't always perfect with my food combining. She seems to have the old school impression of raw.

Anyways, I like the easy way. It really is no big deal to be raw. I just don't eat cooked food. I make my own food or buy fresh fruits and veggies when I'm out. Couldn't get easier. And I am so unbelievably healthy and happy these days.

:) Éva

[Bodhi]

It could be that your diet has been deficient in sodium or iodine. Make sure your diet includes foods that are rich in these two minerals.

[Revvell]

hey Revvel,

I'm not confusing anything at all: I just wanted to know whether anyone went from raw vegan to vegan (which means WITH cooked food as well) and is still happy about it. I know what vegan means.

Anyway, take care,

Eva :)

Was just getting clarity because your original statement wasn't clear. Most of us are already vegan.


Anyway, I would still like to know, whether any of you went from raw to vegan and are still happy about it. Or is this 100% raw place?

[freshlight]

Was just getting clarity because your original statement wasn't clear.[/I][/COLOR]

oh, I think it was. everybody else understood it ;)




Most of us are already vegan.

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this wasn't the question.

[freshlight]

It could be that your diet has been deficient in sodium or iodine. Make sure your diet includes foods that are rich in these two minerals.

thanks Bodhi , I will :)

[freshlight]

well, in that case I've been raw all my life! Thanks for letting me know ;):)

Have fun,

Eva



you don't have to be 100% raw to be raw... in fact, I've read from certain experts that if you are 60% raw, you are considered to be a raw foodist.

[Revvell]

but like Revvell, I'm also way confused... :confused:

.............

[freshlight]

Hey Eva,

hoch voch? ;)


I'm glad to hear you are doing well!

Here the theory is: fresh fruit&veg with LOTS of wild greens, which contain salt, vitamin B12,-everything you need. Eat them with each meal and you'll be fine. No recepies, just plain raw food every day, including mangos, coconuts&durian, hmmmmmmmm!

Do you eat raw chocolate? Here you can't get things like that.

Take care,

Eva:)

P.S. thanks for the link.

[Eva]

I try to have raw chocolate only on occasion because my body doesn't really like it too much. I have seen cacao in the health food store but didn't see anything on it that said it was raw. I have not seen cacao butter anywhere. I HAVE seen lots of carob and maca. Those things are easy to come by here.

And a side note -- I do REALLY enjoy raw chocolate but for my personal sanity must view it like medicine not like food.

[freshlight]

i eat salt..perhaps a lot of it. BUT it is only celtic sea salt..i feel like i truly needed sometimes- it's like a powerfhouse of miiiineraaals!!! :eek::D it doesn't seem to affect me negatively in any way :)

Hey Riiiya,

thanks a lot.
I loved your pics from Chicago. The cake looks really yummy: do you know what it was made of?

And the food was salty, I suppose? ;)

Take care and post some more pics. You are pretty.

Eva

[ViolinCyndee]

you don't have to be 100% raw to be raw... in fact, I've read from certain experts that if you are 60% raw, you are considered to be a raw foodist.
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WOW if this is the case, I am doing better than I thought. I have been about 90% raw since July. :D

[freshlight]

WOW if this is the case, I am doing better than I thought. I have been about 90% raw since July. :D

another violinist on the board, lovely!

[annavon]

In answer to your questions regarding eating something to make you go vegan rather than raw. For me, no. I have stayed 85-100% raw since July. I have had an occaisional cooked food and for me, I feel so tired after eating cooked, I am more motivated to stay raw. With respect to the salt issue, I use some Celtic or Himilayan sea salt, but I also use some kelp and other sea veggies which naturally supply salt. I also use some Nama Shoyu or Braggs Amino Acids on occaision (which are not technically raw).

[freshlight]

thanks so much for you answer, Annavon. you are right about being tired. why do we sometimes tend to eat cooked stuff? Is it because of the warm feeling afterwards? ah well.....I know, there are lots of different reasons for doing it.

Happy raw time :)

Eva

[RawKnitster]

I use only sun-dried celtic sea salt. Raw foodists can also get sodium from foods. If I'm craving celery, I think it's because my body wants the sodium. Seaweeds, too, but if I'm craving dulse I think it's because my body is looking for iodine. Maybe I'm wrong....just my opinion.