Raw food and IBS issues

[rayofsunshine]

Hi there,

I have been eating raw and my system (colon) is really out of wack with my IBS issues. I knew exactly what SAD foods I need to get everything back into balance, but am having trouble doing that with raw foods.

Soluable fiber has always worked great so I have been trying to eat lots of bananas and avocados. I have been eating a lot of blended foods to make digestion easier.

Anyone with similar circumstance that has had luck with any certain approach to raw foods?

Any suggestions?

I know a possibility could be that I am cleansing out, but hard to be away from house for a while.

Thanks for any help.

[Pony500]

Unfortunately, I don't have anything to add except that I was going to start a thread on almost the same thing, but for me it's this incredible gas that I have had since starting raw. I have always been gassey, but now it's just insane! I don't know if a rumbling belly with a lot of gas is considered IBS, because I don't really have actual BM issues, but I will be interested to hear what others have to say.

I've tried to pare my GS down to just an orange, a half a lemon and bananas along with the greens to see if that helps with this issue. It gets worse as the day goes on and even if I eat something later that is properly combined, I still get gas--horrible horrible gas. I feel like I am, in Gabriel Cousens' words, composting!

[Eva]

Do both of you wait until you receive hunger signals from your body before eating? (i.e., a rumbling belly or other more subtle things that vary from person to person as you get to know your body well).

Also -- rayofsunshine -- if you are in the healing stage, a juice feast with lots of cabbage juice may be a good choice. I had an ulcer that was healed with raw food but last New Year's I had a VERY small amount of meat along with an unhealthy heaping amount of stress. I ended up in a bad situation and worked very hard to get back to the healed stage. I sure did learn a lesson to boot!

I followed one book like it was my bible for a few weeks and was back to normal: Self Healing Colitis & Crohn's by David Klein. I'm copying and pasting a glowing review here:
The world's #1 IBD self help book accurately explains the cause of inflammatory bowel disease and ulcers and presents a healing plan which removes the causative IBD dietary factors, setting one and all free of disease. It addresses 10 factors that may contribute to bowel inflammation and ulcers, and shows how IBD, IBS and any digestive disorder can be permanently overcome via natural dietary and health-promoting lifestyle practices. The 100% effective Vegan Diet Healing Plan teaches step-by-step how to eat for rapid healing and long lasting health. This information instantly saved the author's life and his colon, after he had suffered with advance ulcerative colitis for 8 years and a colostomy was recommended. Via the previous edition, of which 10,000 copies were sold, thousands of people have permanently overcome inflammatory bowel illness by following this plan. Endorsed by 5 medical doctors. The author, a health counselor and Director of Colitis & Crohn's Health Recovery Center, is available to assist.

"Self Healing Colitis & Crohn's is the blueprint for overcoming IBD." - Terri Su, M.D.

[annavon]

I actually started on raw because of a type of colitis that I have. It is good to start with juicing and green smoothies as those are easier to digest. Also my colon hydrotherapist admonished me last week to "chew, chew, chew" my food. Remember that a lot of digestion starts right in the mouth when siliva mixes with the foods, not to mention the great action of our teeth. I would also recommend Paul Nison's book, "Healing Inflammatory Bowel Disease". It was helpful to me.

[carolg]

Eva and all thanks for sharing.

Dave and Paul both have great testimonies.

Dave Klein's website:
www.livingnutrition.com should hook you into his forum that you can ask specific questions about. He is a great person too. Thanks for book.

Paul Nison, my good friend. I know for my daughter was diagnosed with IBD, not IBS and Crohn's he suggested 3 day green juice fast. For her individually, it was way to stressful to her body and didn't improve her condition at where she was at. I'm not saying it won't help someone else, but for my daughter it didn't help. Each case is different and worth a try for sure. www.rawlife.com believe is correct site or his name works too.

My daughter is doing NAET, www.red-white.net or is .com is practioner she travels here and uses. Sadly not all NAET practioners same and she has her own way of doing things and certified to the max. She wanted to be doctor, but choose this instead. It does get pricey having all her treatments at $45 a pop, so far about 30ish, but she is able to eat now and still a few little pains but not many. She also found out through pricey lab test, $500+ and only 2 labs do this test, one in NC I know of, stool test, showing she has 3 invasive, aggressive parasites. NAET has those strains and takes time to see results that didn't show up yet to work through recent tests.

Hang in all. I'm believing for you all since you are willing to change your answer is coming or here right now. Keep the faith and stay hopeFUL but be willing to change even if your doctor and all the odds are against you. My hsuband got healed of epilepsy over 30 years ago, when they said there was no hope, he's been free all these years. This is why my faith is so strong. He did drugs 10 days only and none or any signs of reoccurrence since. So, the doctor gave up on him since he went natural way, didn't believe it would work and I believed differently showing it works.

GREAT health to you all.

carolg

[rayofsunshine]

Thanks! I will check into David and Paul's books and sites.

I have some books which use SAD food to control symptoms of IBS, and I have found them useful in the past. I think some of the items I relyed on, like lots of peppermint tea, have contributed to my having acid reflux, by relaxing my sphinctor muscle.

I am at the point where I want to clean out my inner house and heal instead of just control it. That's where raw food is coming in!!!

[carolg]

I USED to have acid reflux till I discovered:

either the breads that I bought at HFS with yeast in it or

Rice Dream Ice Cream, vegan, did it. I used to 2-3 ice cream bars, chocolate or vanilla, daily. I also used to eat the pint sizes of their ice cream as well. There is SOMETHING in the ice cream that caused my acid reflux. I would have violent, suddent attacks and many times lose my voice from the volcanic throwing up eruptions. I'm totally FREE now and I don't eat either of these products. I tend to think it was the ice cream so I dare not try again as I don't need this ice cream when I know mine, what's in it, tastier and fresher. Goodbye ACID REFLUX! I even went to chiro for adjustment. I thought at one point the adjustment worked, but didn't. What worked are these two changes.

Hope this helps someone else out here! Dave Klein may be featuring me in his Dec. magazine issue, but not sure if that is happening or not. We shall see I suppose.

carolg

[Coconutcutie]

My IBS vastly improved after completing a parasite cleanse...

[carolg]

Coconut,
Which parasite cleanse did you do? I would love to pass this on to my daughter. Did you know you had parasites before doing the cleanse? I believe we all do, but for some more extreme. My daughter said there is difference between IBS and IB"d"--ibd.

thanks.
carolg

[Raine]

Coconut,
Which parasite cleanse did you do? I would love to pass this on to my daughter. Did you know you had parasites before doing the cleanse? I believe we all do, but for some more extreme. My daughter said there is difference between IBS and IB"d"--ibd.

thanks.
carolg

It's safe to say that most everyone has parasites. In fact, humans in America used to worm themselves 2x a year just like they did their livestock. This existed up until the 1900's when it became unfashionable to admit you might have parasites.

Of course, at the same time, our meat consumption began to drastically increase and meat not prepared properly is a source of parasites.


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[Coconutcutie]

Coconut,
Which parasite cleanse did you do? I would love to pass this on to my daughter. Did you know you had parasites before doing the cleanse? I believe we all do, but for some more extreme. My daughter said there is difference between IBS and IB"d"--ibd.

thanks.
carolg

Yes, I knew I had parasites before doing the cleanse...I started doing enemas and other bowel cleansing methods a few months ago in an attempt to tackle my cystic acne for good and saw lots of worms in the toilet. It was very obvious. I have also had pretty much every symptom since a very young age...so they were probably with me for awhile. I used the Humaworm cleanse found at www.humaworm.com...there is also a great support forum for Humaworm users at curezone.com which is helpful. I have tried other cleanses before and never noticed any changes good or bad, but with this one I did. It was inexpensive and definitely worth it.

I do think we all have parasites, or we are all at least exposed anyway, but different factors lead to some succumbing to them and feeling the effects more than others. This was demonstrated to me when my husband and two little boys did the Humaworm at the same time...keep in mind my four-year old loves to play in and around garbage because he is obsessed with garbage trucks and the dumpster on garbage pick-up day...naturally you would think they would all have some kind of parasite infestation if not just from living with me...yet I was the only one with a HUGE die-off reaction and also the only one finding lots of worms being expelled. None of them ever had any symptoms of parasites to begin with, but the whole family should cleanse at the same time anyway. So obviously the infestation grows out of control in some and others' immune systems can keep the parasites at bay.

My new personal opinion is that IBS or IBD cannot exist without the overgrowth of SOMETHING bad in the digestive tract

[rayofsunshine]

I did the colonix cleanse for about a month and had some peculiar things in the toilet. It also has an herbal formula you take with it for parasites.

Can eating raw foods alone help your system cleanse?

Is extra help needed from a parasite cleanse?

mmm....I'll have to think about that and look forward to any insights.

I do agree that some bad guys have taken over my gut.

[Coconutcutie]

I did the colonix cleanse for about a month and had some peculiar things in the toilet. It also has an herbal formula you take with it for parasites.

Can eating raw foods alone help your system cleanse?

Is extra help needed from a parasite cleanse?

mmm....I'll have to think about that and look forward to any insights.

I do agree that some bad guys have taken over my gut.

I have done over three Colonix cleansing programs in the past and they did NOTHING for me. That's just me though.

I think raw foods can help with cleansing but if you have a serious parasite infestation then a cleanse is warranted. I wasn't feeling good on raw foods and was not digesting my food properly, losing weight, no energy, etc. until I cleansed for parasites. If I had counted on raw foods alone to heal these issues for me I would still be waiting...

[rayofsunshine]

Thanks coconutcutie.

Loosing weight has been pretty easy for me with raw food, but I definitely have been having a hard time digesting a lot of the denser recipe items. I've lost about 20 pounds (I'm currently 5'7" - 130#s) so I was not very overweight.

I'll dig deeper into looking into the parasite cleanse.

[Pony500]

I have done over three Colonix cleansing programs in the past and they did NOTHING for me. That's just me though.

I think raw foods can help with cleansing but if you have a serious parasite infestation then a cleanse is warranted. I wasn't feeling good on raw foods and was not digesting my food properly, losing weight, no energy, etc. until I cleansed for parasites. If I had counted on raw foods alone to heal these issues for me I would still be waiting...


Wow, this is all very interesting. I'm thinking maybe I should do the Humaworm. I looked at the ingredients and I certainly recognize black walnut and wormwood--these are the two main ingredients in the program that I'm using for my heartworm positive dog. I know that black walnut and wormwood are very strong anti-parasitics and obviously, they work. This is definitely worth looking into and I'm really glad Coconutcutie, that you mentioned that you weren't really doing that great until you did a parasite cleanse because quite honestly, I have been about 99% raw for at least 3 weeks now and I'm not really feeling that much different and in fact, I am even more gassey and bloated than before I started. I have decent energy, I guess, but it's not enough for me to really be excited about at all. The only thing that I can say is that I don't really have food cravings. I haven't lost that much weight either. So, it's not that I'm not believing in the raw diet, but I was just thinking that maybe I was one of those people whose body is just really sensitive and I just can't eat what some people can eat--even raw. But, this Humaworm looks like it would be worth it to try and as someone who has certainly eaten a good deal of meat, it is possible that I could have parasites.

[Coconutcutie]

Yeah, I have really only started to see/feel the huge benefits of raw since doing the parasite cleanse...and I have been raw for 6 months now. It is worth doing a cleanse if you don't feel that things are improving for you since going raw...

To clarify things I was actually losing TOO MUCH weight on raw and this was distressing to me, but now I am putting it back on. I credit my new-found better digestion for this improvement

[carolg]

Coconutcutie,
So glad you are feeling better. I know my daughter used to suffer terribly, lost about 25 pounds getting so skinny, but slowly she is gaining a few pounds back.

Are you taking probiotics? Kind? Thanks.
carolg

[michigan roman]

thanx for report CC / hi carolg :)

ive been raw 3 year and entire time , plus pre raw , with ibs issues .
tried a trillion things but never seriously ran an entire parasite cleanse ,
so thats next .

ps - saw you like ' slipknot' at your myspace so thought ide post a metal favorite of mine here for fun -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAYxWdm_Snw ..

[Sparklie]

Thank you, Coconutcutie!! I have been doing research all day on IBS, candida, constipation etc. I wrote a thread on health issues here asking for some help. I've since discovered this thread and ordered the humaworm.

I've been struggling with cystic acne for years. Since going mostly fruitarian, it has gotten to be the worst I've ever had it. I'm changing my diet to no dairy, no wheat, no sugar. God, I hope this works, because I don't know what else to do. I'm taking GSE, MSM, Psylium Husk, Coconut oil, flax oil. I'm hoping for some results tomorrow. Even a salad can cause symptoms.

I could use a prayer or two. Thanks.:(

[rayofsunshine]

I hope you find what you are looking for sparklie!

[michigan roman]

Thank you, Coconutcutie!! I have been doing research all day on IBS, candida, constipation etc. I wrote a thread on health issues here asking for some help. I've since discovered this thread and ordered the humaworm.

I've been struggling with cystic acne for years. Since going mostly fruitarian, it has gotten to be the worst I've ever had it. I'm changing my diet to no dairy, no wheat, no sugar. God, I hope this works, because I don't know what else to do. I'm taking GSE, MSM, Psylium Husk, Coconut oil, flax oil. I'm hoping for some results tomorrow. Even a salad can cause symptoms.

I could use a prayer or two. Thanks.:(


if havent might want to check out www.globaljuicefeast.com for ideas ,
link if above doesnt work =
http://www.globaljuicefeast.com/ ..

[carolg]

Hi Michigan,
Good to see your presence.

Sparklie,
My prayers are with you. All things are possible to tbose who believe....I can do ALL things.....Keep the faith. Keep your hope1 Don't quit regardless of the time factor. I know it's easy to want things now. Sometimes, from experience, it has been decades on my end. I surely hope that is not the case for you, but a speedy victory with total freedom forever.

carolg

[Riiiya]

I haven't read ANY of the answers so sorry if i'm repeating.

I thought i had IBS (i later decided not to label my inconveniences with names.. it really made a difference) and interestingly enough... KOMBUCHA helped me! i don't know why. it just did... when it came to fiber- i didn't worry about it since i was eating lots with all the fruits ,vegetables, flax seeds..

well, just my little experience ;)
GOOD LUCK

p.s. another thing that helped TREMENDEOUSLY was water.. and not just a lot of water/enough water/8 glasses.. but like 2 huge glasses of water in the morning (drank right away!)... it moves things like crazy... and then i'd repeat that during the day
before meals (or after- at least 30 min. after)

i know how much it can suck.. i had digestive discomfort for the whole year i've been raw!! water was a major breakthrough (i did do a parasite cleanse as well.but i really don't know how much that helped)

[Bestday]

I have been trying to over come severe IBS as well. There are issues many people don't understand if you don't have a severe form of it. You are very wise to eat your soluble foods and avoid insoluble items that might irritate and cause spasms. I have improved a lot in the last 3 months, (I have had it for 10 years) I follow a couple of different recommendations to get on top of this condidtions. The SCD diet is what is helping settle me down the most.
I use the legal/illegal food list as a guide only, trying to stay as raw as I am able. The book "Breaking the Vicious Cycle" is a very good at explaining what is going on in the gut and why. By avoiding the illegal foods, this allows the overgrowth of bacteria to die off(starve). David Klein's book is good as well, but he allows cooked pototoes which feed the bacteria. The other information I found helpful is the website "helpforibs.com" this explains foods that are trigger foods, foods that can cause intestinal spasms. (Fats, raw insoluble veggies , acid foods like oranges, etc) The next thing I have been doing is eating to increase my bodies PH. This I do by following acid/alkaline food list. Most nuts are acid producing (except almonds) and have too much fat and fiber And most importantly for my health I drink at least 4 oz of wheat grass juice daily. One ounce is equal to 2 and 1/2 pounds of green veggies. Raw veggies and fruits are alkaline, but not tolerated well in the gut at the beginning. One ounce is equal to 2 and 1/2 pounds of green veggies. This has given me the most all-around improvement in my total health.

It is extremely difficult to overcome IBS when your body won't allow you to eat the "healthy" foods needed. I quit taking all supplements as the were very irritating to the gut. Don't worry about parasite, candida or other pest, until you are well recovered as this just prolongs your suffering. Once you stay off "Illegal" foods long enough and the bodies PH is back in the correct zone, these pest die off naturally.

So what have I been eating:
very ripe bananas If I overdo I get worse gas
peeled dates ( I make a smoothies with the banana Yum!)
cooked yellow summer squash with the seeds removed and peeled. If I over do this, I get worse gas. (zucchini and other squash don't agree with my system at this point.)
Watermellon juice, I either juice it or spit out the pulp.
Wheat grass juice.
I have tried other juices, but as I have a bladder condition as well, they don't agree with me yet.

This is It!, but I am going to march on, as my goal is to be completely Raw, with a normally functioning gut and bladder.

Best wishes.
Mary

[Coconutcutie]

I looked into the Specific Carbohydrate Diet but it looked near impossible to follow and still maintain an adequate and satisfying 100% raw diet, so I decided that it wasn't for me. I can see how it might help someone with a debilitating case of IBS, though