Too much of a good thing?

[Tealelement143]

Just curious...If a dinner I prepared was two thin veggie burgers, a salad with onions, spinach and dulse flakes, and then a few figs and prunes...do you think that would be too much for a meal?...i mean my boyfriend commented on how much I ate, when he could only finish one of the burgers (he doesn't eat much in the first place, which in turn makes me feel like a pig sometimes :-D) It's been about 3 months raw for me, i'm still getting used to how much I eat. I eat untill i feel full, and i know with a regular food diet, thats never good. I've been reading that once I become more intune with my body, and have been raw for a longer period of time, the amount of food i feel like eating (preferably nuts and such) will probably go down. I just personally feel like I eat alot. My weight has platoed to an ok point, but i'd love to lose a few more pounds. Do most people still have continuous weight loss after the first couple of months, or is that when most of the weight comes off for everyone? Belive me, i'm not in it for the weightloss, I cant believe how amazing i feel, how healthy, how empowered. My acid reflux has almost dissapeared and you dont know how grateful I am for that :-) but the weight loss is also a nice benifit :-)

[VeganVixen]

first of all eat what and when YOU want ......second ,what does your b/f eat vegan ,SAD ,raw? He really shouldnt comment period ,but especially if he eats calorie dense cooked food -honestly your meal sounded nicely balanced and not that big.....imo.

[RawTruth]

Hi -- how great that you've been raw for three months. Do you have Alissa's book? Is that how you went raw? She does talk about this a bit in there.

Also, since this issue has been discussed on this forum recently, you might be able to find that thread -- it could help you to read all the responses. (I'm not discouraging you from having asked this, 'k? You can ask anything here relating to raw vegan lifestyle and you'll get plenty of response and support :) )

As a quick response, though -- no, you are NOT eating too much if you are eating as your body guides you to eat. What you describe certainly isn't excessive. Since you're concerned about losing weight, be sure not to fall into the trap of thinking about your food intake on raw the way you thought about it when you ate cooked food. It's a completely different ball game.

I can't help but wonder if your boyfriend was saying that disparagingly? Yikes if he was. Hopefully, you didn't take it to heart, although you must have to some degree because you wrote about it. Remember, nobody can make you feel ANY way without your permission -- you are not a pig for eating the amount you eat. I eat a lot, too, sometimes and other times I don't. What does that make me? The proof is in the pudding -- in this case, the proof is in your health and radiance.

p.s. Since he ate the veggie patties, too, is he raw also?

[Revvell]

If you are eating until you are satisfied you are not eating too much.

I eat at least double ~ or maybe triple what my husband eats. He can't understand where I put it. :)

Enjoy ~

Revvell

[rawpriestess]

Well, first, I think you are eating just fine, not too much at all.

I often eat two burger patties with hot sauce,or hot salsa, and a large salad, and some raw cake, and a nutmilk shake, I just eat whatever I want and the weight just falls off onto the ground, (okay, it just appears to do that), but it does keep coming off. AND I feel great.

Now, I'll tell you a story about me, read it or not, it's up to you.

When I met my third husband (there have been so many, I have to use numbers instead of names LOL) I weighed 137 pounds, I was 24 and felt fantastic, I ate cooked, had just given up smoking.

He was 19, and kept talking about my weight, as if my 15 pounds of too much weight (per the insurance tables) was WAAAAAAYYYYYY obese.

Now, I'm NOT saying it's his fault, but in 12 years I gained 130 pounds, double my weight. I finally left him.

But that entire time, he kept on and on about my weight, about my dieting, about my eating so much food, even when I was fasting for 3 days, (I didn't tell him I was fasting) he was talking about how much food I was eating, when I confronted him, and told him I hadn't eaten a thing in 3 days, he didn't believe me. because I wasn't losing weight.

SO, I finally wised up (took me 12 years) and left him.

But, the emotional scars still remain, the pain, the guilt, the fear, the shame of being fat is there.

So, please don't wait 12 years before you leave him, IF he is being unkind in any way, ask yourself why do you feel you deserve to punish yourself by being with him.

Then, make your choices.

There is NO excuse for emotional abuse of any kind, and what he is doing by even mentioning your weight is emotional abuse. Plain and simple. That is it, no discussion, no negotiating, no arguments. Amen.

Good, luck with your choices.

The reason I say this, is because I do counseling, and the hardest part of counseling is to help the client understand that they are NOT at fault, but they are responsible. Make your life choices now, instead of waiting until you've gained 130 pounds to finally work through it, and also I am now 52 years old, so look how many years I've carried that baggage with me.

See, the reason I can say this to you, is because you arent' paying me to just sit and listen. I can actually say what I'm thinking.

blessings
Rawpriestess

[Revvell]

...i mean my boyfriend commented on how much I ate....


Interesting how a comment can be taken as "verbal abuse". Tealelement, (love your name btw ~ as teal is one of my fave colors), enjoy your food and enjoy the love you have between you. People who care about us notice what we do. Please just assure him you are eating the healthiest way on the planet and maybe right now your body is starving for nutrients and once it's assured it's getting them it'll lighten up. Be assured this might take a year or so.

There is a book out by Craig Sommers who writes about this. His book is called Raw Foods Bible. Quite informative.

Enjoy your food! It's one of the greatest pleasures in life.

Revvell

[Sweet lips]

Teehee - your meal sounded very good to me; I have had days where my lunch appeared to last for over an hour because of the salad I prepared with my pate, and mixed veggie shredd, and yes, I must admit, it appeared to be alot of food, however, it was what was needed to fill me up comfortably and satisfied, and then there are times, where a smoothie may just do the trick.

It is relative to how your body does it thing. As for the weight loss, are you exercising? Your body may need a little work to get it going, or if you are doing everything possible, resting, exercising, relaxing, getting sunshine, could that be you proper weight. Talk to your body, seriously, talk to it, and let it come back with the answer.

Hey Raw Priestess - girlfriend did you have a flash back there ;) Sometime something will bring back my ex and out in a place, but then I remember the fly swatter therapy and it get's gone. Great day I hope for all!

[Tealelement143]

wow. you guys are more then i could ever ask for. Thanks from the botom of my heart. It's comforting to know i'm not the only one who feels the way i do. I know I have to change the way i think about weightloss and Raw food. It is completly different, and that is one of the main things I need to work on right now. You get this idea of how things should be, and it's hard to change, you know? Plus, i'm an emotional eater, i eat when i'm happy, exited, nervous, sad...and i'm trying to work with that too. My theory right now is, It's better to be munching on dates or veggie burgers, than chocolate or french fries.
Slowly but surely my boyfriend is joing the Raw side. He's a tennis instructor and he cant eat without feeling sick after he plays tennis or works out. Plus, he has Crohnes disease which makes things a bit harder for him too. So, his appetite isnt the best. Because of my Raw discovery, he's now in the process of moving from SAD to Vegan and eventually (keeping my fingers crossed), to Raw. He's starting to come to the realization that when he does eat, he should be putting the best things he can into his body. After I read this thread, I confronted him about what he said the other night. His explination was that he knows that sometimes I feel like I eat too much, and he wanted to point it out to me so that later on I wouldnt have to sit around feeling bad about what I ate. Looking at it that way, i guess I just read into things a bit too soon. I still think it was a bit unneccesary, and I explained that, and he apologized and assured me that it wasnt meant to be hurtful.

And rawpriestess, you have so much courage. You're an inspiration. I too know what it feels like to be put down in that way, which is why i recoiled at the comment that was made to me. But its just second nature for me to react the way i did, because somewhere inside me i'm afraid it's going to turn into something more than it really is. Like how it's been in the past. I've moved on from my past, but like you said, the scars will always remain. Raw food has made me do a total 360 with my whole life, and you know, i'm sort of glad i'm going through all of this, and getting to know myself in the process, its something people search years to find.

[Doe]

I agree with RP 100%. When a person is told that they are fat, skinny, eat too much or too little, generally never do anything right, and have things pointed out in this manner it is verbal and emotional abuse. It is amazing how a woman can lose 1 pound and go from having a fat behind to having a skinny behind, never acceptable. I also have lived with the cycle of abuse, apologies, tension, abuse, apologies ... Having every fault, real or imagined, pointed out repeatedly. It doesn't end. It doesn't get better.

Tealelement, you know how much you need to eat to be satisfied. The amount you eat makes you feel wonderful, healthy, alive. Posting your concern is good because it gives you a reality check. You are doing what is right and good and healthy for you.

Teri

[Revvell]

I agree with RP 100%. When a person is told that they are fat, skinny, eat too much or too little, generally never do anything right, and have things pointed out in this manner it is verbal and emotional abuse. It is amazing how a woman can lose 1 pound and go from having a fat behind to having a skinny behind, never acceptable. I also have lived with the cycle of abuse, apologies, tension, abuse, apologies ... Having every fault, real or imagined, pointed out repeatedly. It doesn't end. It doesn't get better.
Teri


Thing is, that's not the case here. As I said in my previous post, the OP's b/f made a comment on how much she ate. That's IT! I don't see how it becomes ab-use! Read HER response! "Slowly but surely my boyfriend is joing the Raw side." Please, don't make more of something someone says in a thread more than it is!

Y'all enjoy now! :)

Revvell