Not sure if this is appropriate to post here

[trinut001]

but my boyfriend is trying to go vegetarian and then raw. We are huge animal lovers and I do Australian Cattle Dog rescue so I try to do my part and save dogs no one wants and then find them homes. We were watching the Animal Planet the other day and my bf gets really upset when the dogs/cats, etc are mistreated. I said to him well then why do you eat meat if you feel like that. I said the meat you eat an animal was killed for your pleasure. I was trying to tell him how badly mistreated the animals are at slaughter houses. He said well they aren't all like that! His daugher in law works for one and her dad owns a cattle farm. Supposedly they don't mistreat the animals. Hmm I am not convinced...any what are your thoughts? Any good books, video's, etc that I can get him to show him how inhumaley farm animals are mistreated? He told me he needs "proof"!

[petaltothemetal]

You might be able to find that you tube video of sick downer cattle being pushed into the slaughterhouse with bulldozers.

If he ever drives past a feedlot, he'll never go through a fast food line again.

[trinut001]

What exactly is a feedlot?? You mean where they have a chicken farm?

I have seen that video. I will have to show him that.

Thanks!

[petaltothemetal]

Pretty hard to get into a chicken farm - they're all enclosed houses and a lot of them have serious biosecurity measures since the Avian Flu and Bird Flu scares.

However, in multiple places in the middle US, you can drive right by a thousand acres of cattle crammed into pens. The stench is unbearable and they bellow a lot. Almost all commercial beef and dairy (including some so-called organics) comes from feedlots. If he still wants to eat meat, at least he can consider eating a whole lot less of it and make sure it comes from a family farm. When my boyfriend and I lived in the same state (:( another story) I got him down from three meat meals a day to one and he was actually happy about it.

[MiahTay]

You could check out the videos at www.meetyourmeat.com but be warned, it's pretty bad, but good for a wake up call.

Blessings,
Heather

[RawSweetie]

My #1 recommendation would be to watch Earthlings.

[Raine]

www.Meat.org


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[RawHeaven]

this may help ;)

Howard F. Lyman's book....

Mad Cowboy: Plain Truth from the Cattle Rancher Who Won't Eat Meat

http://www.madcowboy.com/01_BookOV.000.html

[jenjen]

watch "earthlings" it's on youtube.

[Ilse W.]

You can always get the oldie but goodie "Diet for a New America" by John Robbins.

[trinut001]

Thank you for the links! I had my bf watch the video's and it worked! He is really trying to not eat meat now..yippee...one step closer.

[unbent]

This is a videa spoof on The Matrix movie called The Meatrix. It's kind of goofy but has some good info pertaining to the animal portion of the food chain.

http://www.themeatrix.com/inside/


Andy

[jacsam]

There will always be the argument about doing it in a humane way but bottom line the animal gets killed. I was vegetarian for years before raw and not often, maybe twice a year, I'd have a small bite of meat ( maybe one pepperoni on a pizza slice) then one day it just dawned on me that how ever small of a bite I had didn't matter because the whole animal has to die for me to have a large portion or one small bite....after that it just wasn't worth it. I wasn't going to have one whole animal die because I wan't one slice of pepperoni. I truely don't crave or miss meat....you get over it and it's not an issue. I'm not passionate about animals like your bf is, infact I really don't like having pets other than my canary but I do have a great respect for all life. If he is as passionate about animals as you say, he will come around in his own way and time....you usually have to come to this on your own.

[lynnc72]

I just finished reading John Robbins' new book "The Food Revolution". It's a great book.

It makes me sick to my stomach reading how farm animals are treated.