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Raine
08-27-2008, 02:42 PM
This is the entirety of the FDA response to me with no editing. Come to your own conclusions. My email to them was a bit more action packed than the generic "question" they used to start their reply.


From email: Consumer@fda.gov

Dear Raine Devries: How Will I Know if My Fresh Iceberg Lettuce or Spinach Has Been Irradiated?
Irradiation of iceberg lettuce and spinach is voluntary on the part of food processors. FDA requires that foods that have been irradiated bear the "radura" logo along with the statement "Treated with radiation" or "Treated by irradiation."
On August 22, 2008, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published a final rule that allows the use of irradiation to make fresh iceberg lettuce and fresh spinach safer and last longer without spoiling.

Irradiating fresh iceberg lettuce and spinach will help protect consumers from disease-causing bacteria. Infections from bacteria such as Salmonella and Escherichia coli O157:H7 (E. coli) continue to be a public health problem in the United States. Illnesses from these bacteria range from uncomfortable symptoms to life-threatening health problems. Severe illness from E. coli, for example, can lead to kidney failure.

In addition to controlling harmful bacteria and other microorganisms, irradiating fresh iceberg lettuce and fresh spinach will allow the greens to keep longer without spoiling.

The foods affected by the final rule are

loose, fresh iceberg lettuce and fresh spinach bagged iceberg lettuce and spinach Irradiation and Safety Irradiation (also sometimes termed "ionizing radiation") is a process of treating products with a measured dose of radiation. Food irradiation is not new. FDA has conducted irradiation safety evaluations for more than 40 years and has determined the process to be safe for use on a variety of foods.

After studying the safety of irradiating fresh iceberg lettuce and fresh spinach, FDA has determined that these greens, when irradiated under the conditions specified in the final rule, retain their nutrient value and are safe to eat.

FDA considers irradiation a complement to, not a replacement for, proper food-handling practices by producers, processors, and consumers.
Irradiation is an additional tool that may be used to reduce the levels of disease-causing microorganisms on fresh iceberg lettuce and fresh spinach.

Irradiation does not take the place of washing. FDA continues to recommend that consumers wash fresh and bagged produce before eating unless the packaging specifically states that the product has been prewashed.

Irradiation of Other Foods
Many foods are already permitted to be irradiated to control bacteria and keep the foods longer without spoiling. For example, FDA approved the irradiation of red meat in 1997 after reviewing numerous scientific studies conducted worldwide on the effects of irradiation on various meat products. Other examples of foods that may be irradiated to kill microbes include spices, poultry, and molluscan shellfish (such as oysters, clams, mussels, and scallops).

FDA has previously allowed lettuce, spinach, and some other foods to be irradiated to kill insects or to slow spoilage. However, the doses used for these purposes are lower than what is required to kill most disease-causing bacteria.


FDA's Role in Safe Irradiation of Food
FDA regulates sources of irradiation (the equipment used) for foods as "food additives" that require approval before being allowed on the market. FDA approves a source of irradiation for use on food only after it has determined that irradiating the food is safe at a maximum dose specified by FDA. The agency continues to evaluate the safe use of irradiation in additional foods.

This article appears on FDA's Consumer Health Information Web page (www.fda.gov/consumer), which features the latest updates on FDA-regulated products. Sign up for free e-mail subscriptions at www.fda.gov/consumer/consumerenews.html.
Jeannine Ertter, A.S.C.P.
Public Affairs Specialist
Communication and Coordination Staff
Office of Food Defense, Communication,
Educations and Response
Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition

rawstrength
08-27-2008, 02:59 PM
At least you got a response. I've sent out several letters and emails and still no reply from the FDA.

Sugar Snap Pea
08-27-2008, 09:43 PM
Another step in the wrong direction, endorsed by the FDA.

Raw Yogini
08-27-2008, 10:24 PM
I got the same response and I'm NOT impressed!

Stina
08-27-2008, 11:00 PM
does irradiation completely kill off enzyme activity? Mutate DNA structure? Can someone break this down into layman's language for me?

Nutz Over RAW
08-28-2008, 12:09 AM
I work in a FDA environment and I'm not impressed. Because of that, I grow my own food so I know what I'm eating. Go to skindeep.com and look up the products you put on your skin. It's an eye opener and the cosmetic industry is not mandated like you think...they are super understaffed at the FDA due to low funding/budgets and they are not replacing people who are leaving due to burn out. I work in a medical device industry and they are not visiting us as much as they should. I work at a really good ethical company and we do our due diligence, but it's nice to have someone enforce the regulations so that everyone has their ducks in a row. I've lost some faith on who's looking out for us little people:(
On the upside, do as much as you can to be in control of what you put in your body and on your body. I grow lettuce and spinach year round among other veggies and fruit. I realize everyone can't do this year round due to harsh winters, but do what you can when you can:) and do your research.

michigan roman
08-28-2008, 12:59 AM
the ruling class / government are totally lost and washed up liars / con artist . theyve all gotta go . or we all die a slow hideous death with them .

rawstrength
08-28-2008, 06:31 AM
Irradiation breaks the bonds between the nucleic acids in DNA. This kills germs. It also kills your food :( . By the way, I finally got a response back from the FDA. This is part of what they said:
The Food and Drug Administration has approved irradiation of meat and
poultry and allows its use for a variety of other foods, including fresh
fruits and vegetables, and spices. The agency determined that the
process is safe and effective in decreasing or eliminating harmful
bacteria. Irradiation also reduces spoilage bacteria, insects and
parasites, and in certain fruits and vegetables it inhibits sprouting
and delays ripening. For example, irradiated strawberries stay unspoiled
up to three weeks, versus three to five days for untreated berries.

BLECH!!!!! Who wants to eat three week old strawberries?! That's disgusting!

Here's another wonderful quote:
Irradiation does not make foods radioactive, just as an airport luggage
scanner does not make luggage radioactive. Nor does it cause harmful
chemical changes. The process may cause a small loss of nutrients but no
more so than with other processing methods such as cooking, canning, or
heat pasteurization. Federal rules require irradiated foods to be
labeled as such to distinguish them from non-irradiated foods.

Good idea, FDA, let's all eat processed food, just like the processed margarine you told us to eat. Remember when the FDA and the federal government told us to eat margarine instead of butter because it was good for us? Then it was discovered the hydrogenated oils (aka trans fats), the main ingredients in margarine, were in fact deadly, waaaaay worse than butter. The more processed a food is, the less healthy it is. This is a fact.

unbent
08-28-2008, 07:57 AM
For example, irradiated strawberries stay unspoiled
up to three weeks, versus three to five days for untreated berries.

BLECH!!!!! Who wants to eat three week old strawberries?! That's disgusting!

OK. Is iradiation killing off bacteria allowing the strawberries, or whatever, to stay unspoiled up to three weeks; or is it destroying the enzymes that naturally cause the strawberries to decay when not eaten (spoil) or help us to digest them when eaten in their raw state?

I think it is time to start growing my own produce again.

Andy

Veganforlife
08-28-2008, 08:07 AM
I say again before the FDA or whatever organization points fingers at the veggie growers, they better check the meat butchering/packing plants because I'd bet a body part that the salmonella/e coli is runoff from the lovely conditions at these plants!!!

"When one points a finger, one better look at those three others pointing back at them!" - anonymous

Zella Juice
08-28-2008, 09:07 AM
I know. Are they going to go cook all the raw meat in the grocery store too?

If we wanted cooked spinich we would buy it in the can.

I talke to the produce manager at our store and he said they had a sign up that said it was irradiated and no one bought it. So the manufacturer decided to take the sign down. People still didn't buy it. But this is all non-organic.

He says the irradiation does not apply to the organic produce.

It's good that they have to put something on the packaging so we know to look for that. I think they will realize that most people will just stop buying their produce if they irradiate it. Because people are getting smarter about what they eat. At least I would like to think so. Maybe it's because they are all getting sick from the junk the previously had been eating.

RawHeaven
08-28-2008, 09:35 AM
I was still having a mental block regarding the word irradiation when it would come up in conversation. I thought it was a "special wash" like water. I think I was in denial...haha. Thank you for sharing this Raine, now I know it does mean radiating food. Bottomline, I still can't understand how anyone would think applying radiation to anything can be healthy. I would imagine this is much worse than microwaving. Let's pray this thinking begins to change.

fruitandveggies
08-28-2008, 09:43 AM
Oh, thank you SO much for doing this, Raine. I releived to know about the labeling and that we know what will be done (for now!). Also glad to know about the organic being okay. *sighs of massive relief*
I hate that they're doing this. I wonder if we could start a boycott of irradiated food? Get the word out?

symphonyx547
08-28-2008, 04:25 PM
This doesn't include organic does it? If heard they don't irridate organic

Raine
08-28-2008, 04:30 PM
This doesn't include organic does it? If heard they don't irridate organic

It's not supposed to include Organic.