View Full Version : Irradiation of our food supply
raweyes
08-22-2008, 11:10 AM
I just got an e-mail from insider@naturalnews.com which informs us that FDA has ruled to secretly irradiate our food supply. This is devistating! They are going to destroy whatever is alive and is healing in our foods. So what are apartment dwellers to do now? They spray too much around here to try and grow anything in pots outside. So what are those of us who have serious health problems to do now?
Veganforlife
08-22-2008, 12:03 PM
There's a couple threads floating around on this - thanks!!! It's scary! We must act and we must act NOW!!!
jacsam
08-22-2008, 05:16 PM
Yikes!!!!!
fruitandveggies
08-23-2008, 09:20 AM
So, this is already happening?? Why would they do that? What is the gain?
raweater
08-23-2008, 11:08 AM
Their excuse is to prevent other e coli outbreaks, the real reason is they know it will make cancer rates skyrocket (radiation destroys all anti cancer properties of food), dramatically increasing sales of cancer treatments. We already have 1 out of 2 people who have cancer in their life since 2005, by doing this, it will soon be 4 out of 5 and 9 out of 10, exactly what the FDA and big pharma wants.
Here's the natural news article about it:
http://www.naturalnews.com/023945.html
fruitandveggies
08-25-2008, 01:47 PM
:mad: So what can we do about this!? I'm one of those unfortunate apartment dwellers with a black thumb!! And how will we know that this is happening? Is it already happening? I told my hubby and he refuses to believe it. I wish I could be so certain as he...
Veganforlife
08-25-2008, 02:30 PM
:mad: So what can we do about this!? I'm one of those unfortunate apartment dwellers with a black thumb!! And how will we know that this is happening? Is it already happening? I told my hubby and he refuses to believe it. I wish I could be so certain as he...
Locate a local organic farmer. Surely there is someone in your area? Or do Aerogardens? Earth boxes? There ARE ways around it.
fruitandveggies
08-25-2008, 04:00 PM
Yeah, I told the hubby to put an Aerogarden on my xmas list :D! Yes, there are some organic farms around me. I wonder how the government will control this? Do they mean all produce sold in a grocery store, even organic? You're right, I don't see how they could easily make the farms do it if they just sell the produce outright to the customer...
Ugh, this is very discouraging! And I am trying so very hard to not be an angry person....:rolleyes:
raweater
08-25-2008, 11:36 PM
Well a similar thing happened with almonds last year when a law stated they had to be pasteurized, the small farmers went bankrupt as they could not afford the pasteurization machines, this is another goal of doing this sort of thing, it wipes out honest small farmers and only the big guys survive. The same will likely happen to small farmers.
fruitandveggies
08-26-2008, 06:57 AM
I guess I should start saving up to move out of the country....:(
raweyes
08-26-2008, 07:18 PM
I have read information on several different sites concerning the plot to irradiate all our foods. One stie gave some ideas as to what we can do including the obvious, grow your own, which is not practical for apartment dwellers with black thumbs as fruitandveggies said, which also happens to describe me as well. If you can, purchase produce from a Farmer's Market, that works for some, but not those unavailable on Farmer's Market day. Another suggestion is to ask your grocery store if they are buying irradiated spinach. Problem being that the FDA has renamed the process of irradiation in order to make it more acceptable, and grocery store managers often do not know what growers have already done. Irradiated produce supposed to be labeled, but the labels are not easily seen or correctly interpreted. One site said that FDA plans to do it without labeling the product. Sometimes irradiated produce is labeled with a little symbol which looks like a fresh sign, it consists of leaves under what appears to be sunlight. Deceptive terms such as cold-pasteruization are used instead of irradiation. Some grocers say that they think this is impossible because they know of no irradiation plants, or that it would ruin the delicate produce... wrong! What we all need to do is write letters to Senators and Congresspeople, letting them know how we feel about our rights being taken from us. And that we are not the dumb sheep they seem to think we are. We are still the same people who threw the tea in the sea.
roseyonnex
08-26-2008, 07:47 PM
I just heard on NPR today that the FDA approve irradiation of all lettuce. Sad.
Stina
08-26-2008, 08:01 PM
Even big corporate organic?
fruitandveggies
08-27-2008, 07:51 AM
So, raweyes, what you've read says that this is already being done? The article I read made it seem that ALL produce will be irradiated. Did you read that? And will it be even organic produce? Will it be produce only in stores--not in farmer's markets? Will it be actually ILLEGAL to sell fresh produce? Ahh! I have so many questions! I'm in a state of panic here...I just can't think of what I'm going to do when this happens. I will have to live on Aerogrown tomatoes and herbs forever....
(sorry...panic attack there...)
gs4life
08-27-2008, 08:15 AM
if someone knows more details i know we'd all love to hear about it. i also wonder if organic produce will be free from irradiation?!?!
Raene
08-27-2008, 08:56 AM
You know, I'm not joking but feel slightly crazy making a fuss about this as no one else (cooked people) seem to think it's a big deal. I'm one of those people who refused to use microwaves when eating cooked and always kept away from unnatural things like chlorine in pools. The idea that our government gives not a single care about our health makes me furious.
I REALLY think that we should try and form another raw food community (let's face it, most of us can't afford Jinjee's community) in which we grow our own food and keep things as natural as possible. This seems to be the only thing we can do to keep away from this crap they're doing to the food.
I've lived in a cohousing community before and even though it's one of the "best" ecovillages in the nation, I moved out b/c it was hard living with people who were so judgmental. It would be great to have an open-minded community in which people do as they please but we could share a common goal...growing our own food and keeping things natural. Would anyone else be interested?
I'm always curious too...does anyone have an idea as to how much land it would take for even one person to grow all their own vegan food (there are several books about land for meat/dairy/etc but I'm wondering about all fruits/veggies). Anyone know how to find such information?
Veganforlife
08-27-2008, 10:00 AM
The FDA has approved a policy to allow spinach, lettuce and other vegetables to be irradiated before being sold to stores. I'm not going to focus on this rather unhappy news, as you can read more about it online. Instead, I'm going to use a quote from a recent article I wrote about our vision for The Raw Vegan Village, as I believe it speaks to the best alternative to the unconscious practices of our dear department of agriculture...
....And then best of all, imagine that your garden is entirely edible, that you pick your breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and eat it within minutes so that the nutrient levels are at their very peak. Every minute the food is off the tree or vine or out of the earth, the nutrient levels are dropping. We barely exist on the nutrient-starved foods that are delivered to cities on trucks and planes, sitting on shelves for months, filled with preservatives, stabilizers, and flavor enhancers (toxic chemicals)! Now you will experience the complete opposite of that meager vibration -- the life force of the planet nourishing you as God through nature intended! Experience the communion with your Creator who developed precisely designed foods to maximize your potential, and feel loved and cared for like you never have before!
- Jinjee, from the August issue of Pear Magazine Online, http://www.PearMagazine.com
In Joy!
Jinjee
http://www.TheGardenDiet.com
fruitandveggies
08-27-2008, 10:04 AM
Raene, I feel crazy, too! I'm actually surpised that the whole board here hasn't gone into a state of panic because I sure have. It really angering that the government cares absolutely NOTHING for our wellbeing and that they are making us even more helpless to do anything about it.
What is a cohousing community like? I can certainly see how living with some "eco-fighters" can be very taxing, it can become like a competition sometimes.
I would be interested in the idea of one though! I think the west coast would have to be where it was...since I not longer can stand the uptight, highstrung people of the east.
And VFL, thanks for that! Her description sounds heavenly!
Raene
08-27-2008, 10:20 AM
I think the west coast would have to be where it was...since I not longer can stand the uptight, highstrung people of the east.
And VFL, thanks for that! Her description sounds heavenly!
I do think it would have to be on the west coast, just b/c of the weather and wider variety of fruits/veggies and of course the longer growing season, though I don't find people on the east coast to be uptight, at least not where I am :)
I'd love to set something up in Oregon, as it seems more affordable and less volcanic than California...correct me if I'm wrong? I'm terrified of volcanoes/earthquakes...
fruitandveggies
08-27-2008, 10:22 AM
^^Yeah, I think its just my area! I can see DC out my window at work....I think all the politicians around here must put somthing in the air.
I agree, Oregon is my dream land! So beautiful there.
Stina
08-27-2008, 12:47 PM
I do think it would have to be on the west coast, just b/c of the weather and wider variety of fruits/veggies and of course the longer growing season, though I don't find people on the east coast to be uptight, at least not where I am :)
I'd love to set something up in Oregon, as it seems more affordable and less volcanic than California...correct me if I'm wrong? I'm terrified of volcanoes/earthquakes...
Hey Sister- I just love life in Oregon! It's been a healthy happy and spiritual place for me to build a life. If you ever think about moving or visiting here, e-mail me! I'll help you out!
raweyes
08-27-2008, 03:15 PM
My heart is breaking. The last thing I wanted to do was to instill panic and fear in your hearts. But we do need to know the truth and we need to take action by writing to our congressmen. We should be furious. If I knew how to put together an online petition against it, I would! The people it would mostly affect are the poor with serious health problems and cancer survivors who rely on raw foods. We need to fight for them, for our children and ourselves.
Fruitsandveggies, I read that it was to begin that day, which was about a week ago. So far organics are exempt. However, if we do not stand up against this, how do we know that the organic ruling will continue to stay that way. We used to be able to purchase raw juices in California, but ow they are not raw even in health food stores. If FDA has it's way, I suppose it would eventually be illegal to sell fresh produce, but I think Farmer's market produce will be an exception.
Do not despair, but do take action. Getting upset would be as detrimental to your health as eating cooked foods.
Wouldnt it take big money to pull off community living? I wouldn't know how to find out about that, unless you research it on the Internet.
In a worse case senero, we would have to do the best that we can and maintain a positive focus, because our minds can make us ill from fear.
rawstrength
08-27-2008, 03:20 PM
Raene - I highly recommend the book The Good Life by Helen and Scott Nearing. It is about a vegan couple that decided to grow all their own food - in Vermont and in 1932! I am reading it right now.
Raene
08-27-2008, 05:51 PM
Raene - I highly recommend the book The Good Life by Helen and Scott Nearing. It is about a vegan couple that decided to grow all their own food - in Vermont and in 1932! I am reading it right now.
GREAT! I'll check it out, thanks so much for letting me know, Rawstrength!
raweater
08-27-2008, 06:32 PM
This may sound extreme, but we may need things to get much worst before they get better. Life expectancy is already falling from 77 years to 72, if this irradiation plot passes, life expectancy will fall even more, when people go back to living only 50 years, hopefully they will wake up and understand that governments are our enemies, not our friends.
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