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Pitaya
08-21-2008, 10:08 AM
Hi everyone,

Wanna list the reasons/fears/apprehensions/justifications/rationalizations/excuses/ that people use not to go raw. This is not to make fun of anyone, rather to tap into the collective unconscious to shed light on it, and check our own that may be still swirling quietly in our heads causing us to tilt on the fence toward cooked foods when we least expect it. the buddha belly laugh may just be a result of this list, and cause us to untwist, which is healing rather than critical, and i hope to keep this thread light and fun : )

ok....here we go!




The Best Excuses I've Heard for Not Going Raw:

~that you could die from not washing fruits and vegetables well, and if you eat more of them, your chances will increase.

Veganforlife
08-21-2008, 10:17 AM
Love this one:

"It's too extreme"

saxmaam
08-21-2008, 10:25 AM
"Not enough protein. It's too extreme."

petaltothemetal
08-21-2008, 10:26 AM
uuugggh, won't you have gas all the time from all those greens?

petaltothemetal
08-21-2008, 10:28 AM
I just couldn't live without my ____________
fill in the blank according to whoever's talking:
donuts
fries
diet coke!
notice the people who say this usually look like they're not living anyway!

Pitaya
08-21-2008, 10:31 AM
i hate salad and i am not a rabbit!!!!!!!!

petaltothemetal
08-21-2008, 10:33 AM
some guy at work came up to me the other day and said I was putting the rabbits out of business.

the same guy told me my smoothie looked like draino a few days later

snoops
08-21-2008, 10:39 AM
~that you could die from not washing fruits and vegetables well, and if you eat more of them, your chances will increase.

LOLOLOLOL

Loved that one!!!

ViolinCyndee
08-21-2008, 10:40 AM
the same guy told me my smoothie looked like draino a few days later

Well they kind of are.. :D :D :D

Pitaya
08-21-2008, 10:50 AM
i refuse to pay 5.00 for blueberries......what do you think i am, made of money? a movie star????

Veganforlife
08-21-2008, 10:51 AM
Love this one:

"Oh I couldn't do that"

"that" being eat raw...oh, okay you'd rather munch on a dead animal? Okay then!

Pitaya
08-21-2008, 10:56 AM
my (overweight overstressed allopathic) doctor says I'm perfectly healthy the way i am.........especially compared to the rest of his patients. he also says "everybody's a bit overweight, we live in america" and "don't worry, nowadays we have medication for everything!"



(p.s. my allopathic doctor really is overweight and said these things to me....this exercise is becoming not only fun and funny but healing too! bye bye old SAD chains! heheeeeeeeeee!)

jordanjuju
08-21-2008, 10:57 AM
"I have cravings, and it isn't healthy to neglect your cravings..."

"Do I look like a bunny?"

Pitaya
08-21-2008, 11:02 AM
who has the time to sit in front of a dehydrator and watch crackers for 16 hours?????????????????????



what kind of kitchen doesn't have a microwave and a stove????? are you moving to a meadow next??????????



i'll try anything once - except giving up my morning coffee....

Pitaya
08-21-2008, 11:05 AM
italians without pasta and salami = not natural.

(my nonna thinks I have gone completely crazy and i have to watch for flying pots when i visit her now)

Veganforlife
08-21-2008, 11:23 AM
Love this one:

"Isn't it expensive?"

To which I reply, is my health worth it?

petaltothemetal
08-21-2008, 11:38 AM
here's a new one from the guy I work with, about today's smoothie:

won't that turn your pee orange?

fruitandveggies
08-21-2008, 12:45 PM
"But humans have been eating cooked food for thousands of years!"

---Yes, we also have been getting degenerative diseases for thousands of years--something that animals eating their natural diet don't normally get!

RawSinger
08-22-2008, 06:15 AM
"I need warm food to make me warm."

"All of the vegans I've ever seen have looked pale, scrawny, and just plain unhealthy." - O.k., but are they raw vegans, are they eating enough, and are they eating a balanced diet?

patchouli
08-22-2008, 06:58 AM
"Doesn't sound very healthy to me." Honest, that's what she said.

"Are you under a doctor's care to make sure you're getting enough vitamins and minerals? What about protein?"

"It's too expensive."

I have a reputation as the wierdo/hippie/artist/heathen anyway, so whatever! My doctor is a vegan--he thinks it's great!!

Raine
08-22-2008, 08:49 AM
I have a reputation as the wierdo/hippie/artist/heathen anyway, so whatever!


The best revenge is living well.

jacsam
08-22-2008, 10:05 AM
some guy at work came up to me the other day and said I was putting the rabbits out of business.

the same guy told me my smoothie looked like draino a few days later
Did you tell him he was right and that your pipes are SQUEAKY clean!!!

Stina
08-22-2008, 10:16 AM
Uhm.....how about my self-discipline just sucks?!

samariah
08-22-2008, 10:38 AM
"god if i you're not a hippe i dont know who is" from my mom

Lindazkewl
08-22-2008, 10:29 PM
...oh, okay you'd rather munch on a dead animal? Okay then!

LOL!!! :)

sweetlime
08-22-2008, 11:12 PM
i don't have the time.

i don't have the money.

i don't care enough.

HAHAHA. yah. right.

i am a carboholic.

greens don't satisfy me. i need warm food.

doesn't it make your tummy hurt?

doesn't seem healthy to me.

pizza.

Bananna
08-23-2008, 05:51 AM
I like eating chicken though....

Fruit is too much sugar and I have problems with yeast.

My favorite:

I would do that if I had something like IBS or cancer or something....then I could see taking drastic measures. Then I would do something Major like that...

...it's kind of sad actually.

mongodelight
08-23-2008, 05:45 PM
i refuse to pay 5.00 for blueberries......what do you think i am, made of money? a movie star????

my grandfather introduced me to a wild blueberry field when i was maybe 8 years old. Now i am 20 and i just rediscovered the field. I am going to stock about 50 lbs in my freezer. Free wild blueberries in my smoothies all winter long. Wild food is the best ever !!!

roseyonnex
08-23-2008, 05:58 PM
"Have you ever smelled vegan farts? They are lethal!"

lalakis
08-23-2008, 10:17 PM
"Have you ever smelled vegan farts? They are lethal!"

THE MOST LEGIT REASON EVER. Hahaha. :p

Inca_faerie
08-24-2008, 07:43 PM
"Have you ever smelled vegan farts? They are lethal!"

lolol my brother is a bodybuilder and he used to eat a huge steak every night for dinner and let me tell you...I'll take a vegan fart over a carnivore fart ANY day! :D

Vaclare79
08-24-2008, 07:50 PM
lolol my brother is a bodybuilder and he used to eat a huge steak every night for dinner and let me tell you...I'll take a vegan fart over a carnivore fart ANY day! :D



Yeah cuz carnivorous farts are coming out of not so squeaky clean pipes like RV farts.. lol

roseyonnex
08-24-2008, 08:35 PM
You guys are funny!

Pitaya
08-24-2008, 09:23 PM
this made me CRACK UP!!! omg...too funny....yet true.....it takes all i have not to burst out laughing when people say things like this. again it's not laughing at them, but buddha belly laughing at this crazy world.
thanks for the laughs patchouli!!
oh and you too fart ladies!!! lol

[QUOTE=patchouli;450551]"Doesn't sound very healthy to me." Honest, that's what she said.

StarFire
08-25-2008, 01:39 AM
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/laugh.gif ...omg... what a great thread!!!

I think the best excuse I've heard yet...

'Yeah - I'm gunna do it too.... I do need to get healthy and stop eating so much crap -- but I still need protein cuz that's just my body. And well... pasta and sauce - but I'll cook it with organic vegetables and range fed beef -- so at least it will be pure.

:eek: .... huh?? http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/FireStar_830/2006SmileyThinking.gif .... ooookaaaay....

iamacranberry
08-25-2008, 03:48 AM
The best serious excuse, though? That would be that humankind has been eating cooked grains for thousands of years, and we have not yet determined whether this has had any effect on the evolution of our digestive systems. It may well be that we have adapted to such foods.

missystems
08-25-2008, 07:55 AM
'Experts say that the body needs meat to be healthy and you can't eat raw meat.'

Now, that response came from a gentleman who looked like he was 9 months pregnant. :eek:

gs4life
08-25-2008, 08:03 AM
"i can't deprive myself of anything"
"fruit has too many carbs in it"
"i couldn't just eat vegetables and fruits all day--there just isn't enough nutrients with only eating raw food"

greenday
08-25-2008, 11:47 AM
Love this thread....so funny! Ok, one of the most exasperating I've heard yet from grandma-in-law:

"My doctor told me not to eat lettuce because it's a 'hard' vegetable and I can't digest it"

Interestingly, most fruits and veggies have now fallen into the 'hard' category and just CAN'T be eaten - because, you know....doctor's orders! :( Wow, ok. whatever.

Eva
08-25-2008, 12:22 PM
'Experts say that the body needs meat to be healthy and you can't eat raw meat.'

Now, that response came from a gentleman who looked like he was 9 months pregnant. :eek:

LOL, of course!

fruitandveggies
08-25-2008, 01:45 PM
"Have you ever smelled vegan farts? They are lethal!"


Haha, when I heard this, I nearly punched the TV! Actually...once I went vegan, I swear, I never smelled any farts (of my own) again! Now for the rest of my family...its like a contest on whose is the worst!

Veganforlife
08-25-2008, 02:17 PM
'Experts say that the body needs meat to be healthy and you can't eat raw meat.'

Now, that response came from a gentleman who looked like he was 9 months pregnant. :eek:

LOVE this one!

*rolls eyes*

RawHeaven
08-25-2008, 03:28 PM
^^^ It is pretty funny about the guy's physical condition and his quote. It's usually the case. hahaha.

This is kinda on the same subject as excuses...my Mom said to me the other day with no judgement whatsoever that she wished she could make me a meatloaf while she was preparing dinner. It was purely because she wanted to make me a meal and it was a childhood favorite of mine. I just smiled at her and said "well I don't eat it anymore, but your's was the best". And that was the end of it. She just needed to express her feelings in the moment.

It got me thinkin' after I read this thread...I think underlying all excuses is a genuine attachment to food based on memories and other positive or negative associations. It's hard for a lot of people to give up certain foods for this reason before they're even able to think about about making profound lifestyle changes. Runs deep I think. Their "excuses" may be fueled by a lot of unconscious stuff underlying their noble desires to change. I'm going to personally keep this in mind.

That said the best excuse I ever heard was..."I don't want to be that healthy". No lie. :o

Tamilda
08-25-2008, 08:36 PM
" Oh, I can't go without my meat!" & "There's no way I am eating all that green stuff, what are you a cow, munching on grass?"

Tamilda
08-25-2008, 08:42 PM
I think the person who aggravates me the most is my dad. He is on 7 medicines and one is rat poison (aka coumadin) & I was explaining how if he'd change his fast food ways, he could get off his meds & feel so much better. Wanna hear what he said? "Oh, I can't eat a lot of vegetables cause my avoidance list says not to eat foods with Vitamin K cause it will mess up my coumadin levels". :eek:
Do you ever feel like suddenly your the parent and your parents are the kids??

Raine
08-25-2008, 10:26 PM
I think the person who aggravates me the most is my dad. He is on 7 medicines and one is rat poison (aka coumadin) & I was explaining how if he'd change his fast food ways, he could get off his meds & feel so much better. Wanna hear what he said? "Oh, I can't eat a lot of vegetables cause my avoidance list says not to eat foods with Vitamin K cause it will mess up my coumadin levels". :eek:
Do you ever feel like suddenly your the parent and your parents are the kids??

I'm not surprised. My mother is on 24 medications (down from 27) and was reading up on all the possible side effects because she didn't recall feeling suicidal before all this prescription insanity. Seems one of the drugs specifically said to not eat grapefruit as it could be a lethal combination. She likes grapefruit. At least that seemed to be a bit of a wakeup call for her to look a little more closely before believing the gospel of modern medicine. Unfortunately, we live 1300 miles apart so there's little I can do on a daily basis.

Pitaya
08-26-2008, 09:38 AM
I get this too! My reply, with my head tilted low like a tired goat, or Eyeore from Winnie The Pooh: "Yes, and I get so tired, masticulating for hours and hours on end." Using this big word for chewing and my dramatics tend to make them laugh : P


" Oh, I can't go without my meat!" & "There's no way I am eating all that green stuff, what are you a cow, munching on grass?"

Pitaya
08-26-2008, 09:42 AM
my papa has a pharmacy in his cupboard too, I am afraid to count them all. I want to help him soooo badly, but feel inferior in the chemical land because I don't know all of these dangers - I am afraid to advise him because of these exact combinations. he is on heart medication from a bypass amongst so many other things for all kinds of ailments (most likely from the drugs themselves) right now i am trying to get him to a naturopath....i always fear it will be too late though, soon enough, as he ages and my formerly very healthy father turns into a man people don't recognize anymore. all we can do is do our best, pray for them, and let the universe be and let go....blessings to you and your dad.


I think the person who aggravates me the most is my dad. He is on 7 medicines and one is rat poison (aka coumadin) & I was explaining how if he'd change his fast food ways, he could get off his meds & feel so much better. Wanna hear what he said? "Oh, I can't eat a lot of vegetables cause my avoidance list says not to eat foods with Vitamin K cause it will mess up my coumadin levels". :eek:
Do you ever feel like suddenly your the parent and your parents are the kids??

Pitaya
08-26-2008, 09:45 AM
Hi Raine....this breaks my heart. Prescription Insanity is the perfect term for it. so sad to be advised NOT to eat grapefruit. hope to hear more of your story as you help her unravel, even far apart as you are. my papa and I are far apart too, but I do all that I can. he even came to visit ME for the first time last week, in over 10 years (usually I go see him) so I think he is waking up too. prayers and blessings for them and us all : )


I'm not surprised. My mother is on 24 medications (down from 27) and was reading up on all the possible side effects because she didn't recall feeling suicidal before all this prescription insanity. Seems one of the drugs specifically said to not eat grapefruit as it could be a lethal combination. She likes grapefruit. At least that seemed to be a bit of a wakeup call for her to look a little more closely before believing the gospel of modern medicine. Unfortunately, we live 1300 miles apart so there's little I can do on a daily basis.

Pitaya
08-26-2008, 09:49 AM
AND NOW BACK TO THIS POST'S REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROGRAMMING (after a short string of heartwrenching long distance-like commercials):

my dear sweet cousin (who is in her early twenties) says to me yesterday: "I need to bring you a burger to snap you out of the crazy jibberish you've been talking these days. a nice Big Mac should do it."

:confused: :(

oh wait, buddah belly laugh...yes :D :)

Raine
08-26-2008, 10:07 AM
AND NOW BACK TO THIS POST'S REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROGRAMMING (after a short string of heartwrenching long distance-like commercials):

my dear sweet cousin (who is in her early twenties) says to me yesterday: "I need to bring you a burger to snap you out of the crazy jibberish you've been talking these days. a nice Big Mac should do it."

:confused: :(

oh wait, buddah belly laugh...yes :D :)

The interesting things about the threads is that sometimes they do evolve a bit off topic yet still stay informative. I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm not out for wailing and wringing of hands sob stories - the conversation turned to prescription drugs and I had contributed.

I apologize for offending you Pitaya by not keeping the info light and fluffy.

Pitaya
08-26-2008, 04:09 PM
wha??? :confused:

nobody offended me at all. i was just being funny. the topic switched, i contributed heartfelt responses (would have reacted in a response or not responded at all had i been offended), and then alluded to back to regular fun programming so we switch back to fun and light.

i do not take anything personally, and am aware that posts wander. as the host of this one, i wanted to wander this one back : ) sometimes we read into things on internet with no tone here, haphazards of this form of communication i suppose! glad i can clear it up here though : )

much love, peace and gratitude for your contributions Raine! hope you're having a fantabulous day : )

pitaya

Pitaya
08-27-2008, 09:32 AM
starting anew for Wednesday then.....hopefully this post will continue to create giggling entertainment....

so a raw friend was told yesterday, that her food choices were ruining their relationship and if she can't stop with the raw, then the relationship will have to stop!!!! (she went raw after meeting her carnivore boyfriend).

whoa!!:eek:

funkygrl
08-27-2008, 11:42 AM
I love all the posts here. Here are my favourite excuses.

I wouldn't get enough protein
I couldn't live without bread and cheese
I could never find the time to prepare all those salads
- here's a good one from a co-worker - "I've got an elongated colon and it's hard for me to digest a lot of greens" (huh?)
I would freeze in the winter not eating anything cooked
Won't you get diabetes from eating that much fruit? - this from an already overweight person probably on their way to diabetes from their current diet!

Pitaya
08-28-2008, 11:58 AM
ohhhh the diabetes one.......omg!

makes me sad our society has come to think this way!

thanks for sharing funkygrl ;) :)

GreenPrince
08-28-2008, 01:56 PM
I can't take the risk of eating rabbit food. Do you know that rabbits sleep only five hours?

petaltothemetal
08-28-2008, 02:45 PM
Ok, the famous co-worker who said my smoothie looked like draino came up and said, "What's up, doc?"

debilana
08-28-2008, 04:12 PM
Your co worker sounds like what one veg book author calls "blocked vegetarians"- she said the are usually the worst to deal with but often the ones that end up changing if given time. Have you tried making a raw chocolate treat or something that tastes like "normal " food and gifting him? the holidays are coming:D then tell him it was raw after he gushes on how good it was.

muhahahha